https://forumen.rpg-club.net/p-voteUSSR
what did u vote? D:
i voted
15x,
with cakes
no adena for silver coins
no npc buffer
no buyable professions
and wasnt sure about siege times so i just randomed D:
it will be really dumb if the server is w/o cakes.
Tbh the most fun i had on the 5x, was PvPing partys for their cake spot, and usually in every double room in a cata or every good lvling spot basically, there's a cake and a party protecting it. its just so fun to go kill them and hear them cry. Same goes for protecting your own cake.
Their ridiculously cheap aswell.
and i voted
15x
with cakes
adena for silver coins(so ppl dont qq for cakes)
no npc buffer
no buyable prof
siege times last one. even tho i have no idea what it is but i guess its later than the other 2 mentioned lol
CAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
x7 w/ cakes for long time srv
so you can stay longer in citadel nice razi nice
So similar as x5
i didnt win in voting :/
Quote from: djavu on October 15, 2010, 02:02:20 AM
i didnt win in voting :/
log in and come to rune mang
10x rate
Cakes after 1 month ;)
PS: Btw its quite stupid, bcs people, who want cakes, will be divided to 2 votes : For cakes and for cakes after month. :)
So its not fair question. ;)
R U S I A W E D A B E S T
Quotex15 SP/XPrates. The drop rates will be 10x chance and 1x amount. Spoil rates will be 10x chance and 1x amount.
8)
u guyz worry too mucho about cakes.if u gonna have,other gonna have also,and the opposite.At x5 there were always sc sell shops making cakes accesable to everyone
VOTE FOR CAKES FFS! >; l
Quote from: aYotech on October 15, 2010, 01:55:40 AM
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siege times last one. even tho i have no idea what it is but i guess its later than the other 2 mentioned lol
4pm - 8pm GMT
What GMshop assortment do you prefer?
1.Gracia IG shop w/o cakes - 44%
2.Gracia IG shop w/o cakes for 1 month after start - 22%
3.Gracia IG shop with cakes (x5 like) - 33%
Not really good question. Bcs, we have just 2 groups of people. One group, which want cakes and one, which doesnt want cakes.
And group, which want cakes is divided to 2nd and 3rd answer. ;)
i didnt vote there....
the real shit is going on here : http://forums.azuregaming.net/showthread.php?t=49014
option n°1 ofc
Quote from: qqqq on October 15, 2010, 02:11:56 AM
PS: Btw its quite stupid, bcs people, who want cakes, will be divided to 2 votes : For cakes and for cakes after month. :)
So its not fair question. ;)
still u have 2 choices, which both brings you cakes, and ppls who dont wants cakes at all, have only 1.
Cakes brings bigest inbalance in EXP rates, its gives way to much boost, difernce btw x15 and x45 rates is way to big. Hope there will not be any cakes for long life server.
Quote from: aYotech on October 15, 2010, 01:55:40 AM
siege times last one. even tho i have no idea what it is but i guess its later than the other 2 mentioned lol
stupid americano :D do u even know where ie europe or asia? go back to primary school :/
gmt+8= east russia... hard to find in google
it isnt later than the other one... 16:00 gmt+8 = 2 am gmt-6
Quote from: qqqq on October 15, 2010, 02:21:28 AM
What GMshop assortment do you prefer?
1.Gracia IG shop w/o cakes - 44%
2.Gracia IG shop w/o cakes for 1 month after start - 22%
3.Gracia IG shop with cakes (x5 like) - 33%
Not really good question. Bcs, we have just 2 groups of people. One group, which want cakes and one, which doesnt want cakes.
And group, which want cakes is divided to 2nd and 3rd answer. ;)
This result = 44% w/o cake <-> 55% w cake.
So its about to have cake on serv, and for now cakes all the time (*5 like ).
Quote from: qqqq on October 15, 2010, 02:21:28 AM
What GMshop assortment do you prefer?
1.Gracia IG shop w/o cakes - 44%
2.Gracia IG shop w/o cakes for 1 month after start - 22%
3.Gracia IG shop with cakes (x5 like) - 33%
Not really good question. Bcs, we have just 2 groups of people. One group, which want cakes and one, which doesnt want cakes.
And group, which want cakes is divided to 2nd and 3rd answer. ;)
You are correct. This was my mistake to suggest them to add the 2nd option because many of you asked for it. We will think about it, but initial idea would be 1 vs 2+3 since 2 and 3 are pretty much the same question. And if 2+3 wins over 1, then the one with most votes would be the chosen option. This is just an idea, so don't rage at me for it.
Quote from: vaurk on October 15, 2010, 02:23:06 AM
i didnt vote there....
the real shit is going on here : http://forums.azuregaming.net/showthread.php?t=49014
option n°1 ofc
lol c5
Quote from: MichaelV on October 15, 2010, 02:29:14 AM
You are correct. This was my mistake to suggest them to add the 2nd option because many of you asked for it. We will think about it, but initial idea would be 1 vs 2+3 since 2 and 3 are pretty much the same question. And if 2+3 wins over 1, then the one with most votes would be the chosen option. This is just an idea, so don't rage at me for it.
If cakes will win, isnt better put question if players want it after month or nonstop? I mean after the voting.
Quote from: aYotech on October 15, 2010, 01:55:40 AM
adena for silver coins(so ppl dont qq for cakes)
no npc buffer
You miss understood this part...
Its not to buy Silver Coin with adena.
But : To get adena with silver coin ( so you buy 200 sc for 10$ and with 200sc you have 5kk adena in gmshop )
Quote from: qqqq on October 15, 2010, 02:33:30 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on October 15, 2010, 02:29:14 AM
You are correct. This was my mistake to suggest them to add the 2nd option because many of you asked for it. We will think about it, but initial idea would be 1 vs 2+3 since 2 and 3 are pretty much the same question. And if 2+3 wins over 1, then the one with most votes would be the chosen option. This is just an idea, so don't rage at me for it.
If cakes will win, isnt better put question if players want it after month or nonstop? I mean after the voting.
Ofc not, there is no sence to make it like that.
For exemple 44% want no cake, 55% ( 22/33 want it ).
If the cake win, and you make new vote ofc the 44% who voted for no cake will vote for no cake 1 month ( so 44+22 = 66% ).
You take a risk by voting no cake, its your problem =)
save the cake save the world save the cheerleader save eyolis !
MichaelV just make a new poll after for what type thats wanted no? ; X
Or you think the ones that voted for no cake will fuck it up then?
ffs!
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x7 no cakes no buyable changing occupation no buying blabla no cakes no npc buffer not for me not for anyone,no cakes no buyable thingie !
grind your mofo lazy asses up into level !
cry when spoil dont land !
pick up every god damn piece of stem !
lick the floor for every lousy penny (adena) !
stay up at night for a better spot to level !
divorce !
dump school !
grind grind grind ! thats what lenin would say if he was playing l2 !
15x with cakes
8)
i voted
7x
with cakes after 1 month
no adena for silver coins
no npc buffer
no buyable professions
siege time 16:00 to 20:00
it should be cakes yes or no, and after that if yes wins after a month or at start
now cake will win, but if there is poll afterwards, about month or no, month will win
x15 with cakes is bullshit.. At x5 with cake there was a lot off ppl 78+ in first month.
So 83lv and 83skill after first month.. :)
Quote from: sTrafe. on October 15, 2010, 03:09:15 AM
x15 with cakes is bullshit.. At x5 with cake there was a lot off ppl 78+ in first month.
So 83lv and 83skill after first month.. :)
bullshit for u son, cus u got 20h available to play per day.
(:
Quote from: sTrafe. on October 15, 2010, 03:09:15 AM
x15 with cakes is bullshit.. At x5 with cake there was a lot off ppl 78+ in first month.
So 83lv and 83skill after first month.. :)
i was 78 in two weeks, half time w/o cakes, and w/o nolifing 12h day :S
15x with cakes !!!!
Quote from: Igorius on October 15, 2010, 03:10:57 AM
Quote from: sTrafe. on October 15, 2010, 03:09:15 AM
x15 with cakes is bullshit.. At x5 with cake there was a lot off ppl 78+ in first month.
So 83lv and 83skill after first month.. :)
bullshit for u son, cus u got 20h available to play per day.
(:
even if u have 5 hours or 12+ for play 15x for sure is too much we <3 normal rate x5-x6-x7 not x15
Quote from: Igorius on October 15, 2010, 03:10:57 AM
Quote from: sTrafe. on October 15, 2010, 03:09:15 AM
x15 with cakes is bullshit.. At x5 with cake there was a lot off ppl 78+ in first month.
So 83lv and 83skill after first month.. :)
bullshit for u son, cus u got 20h available to play per day.
(:
I wish..)
Do u know what gonna be at barakiel at first few monhs...?)
Quote from: S1xX on October 15, 2010, 03:16:16 AM
Quote from: Igorius on October 15, 2010, 03:10:57 AM
Quote from: sTrafe. on October 15, 2010, 03:09:15 AM
x15 with cakes is bullshit.. At x5 with cake there was a lot off ppl 78+ in first month.
So 83lv and 83skill after first month.. :)
bullshit for u son, cus u got 20h available to play per day.
(:
even if u have 5 hours or 12+ for play 15x for sure is too much we <3 normal rate x5-x6-x7 not x15
u wanted to say not x45?
Quote from: sTrafe. on October 15, 2010, 03:18:24 AM
Quote from: Igorius on October 15, 2010, 03:10:57 AM
Quote from: sTrafe. on October 15, 2010, 03:09:15 AM
x15 with cakes is bullshit.. At x5 with cake there was a lot off ppl 78+ in first month.
So 83lv and 83skill after first month.. :)
bullshit for u son, cus u got 20h available to play per day.
(:
I wish..)
Do u know what gonna be at barakiel at first few monhs...?)
there's always territory war
Quote from: S1xX on October 15, 2010, 03:16:16 AM
Quote from: Igorius on October 15, 2010, 03:10:57 AM
Quote from: sTrafe. on October 15, 2010, 03:09:15 AM
x15 with cakes is bullshit.. At x5 with cake there was a lot off ppl 78+ in first month.
So 83lv and 83skill after first month.. :)
bullshit for u son, cus u got 20h available to play per day.
(:
even if u have 5 hours or 12+ for play 15x for sure is too much we <3 normal rate x5-x6-x7 not x15
64% till now desagree with u (:
about barakiel, it'll be a drama no matter the rates, we all know that.
Quote from: Sabor on October 15, 2010, 02:29:45 AM
Quote from: vaurk on October 15, 2010, 02:23:06 AM
i didnt vote there....
the real shit is going on here : http://forums.azuregaming.net/showthread.php?t=49014
option n°1 ofc
lol c5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
QuoteI have played Azure and sucked a lot because of bugs and lacking features. But I had fun because I was among friends. If I had to choose to meet old friends on some lol2jc3bugland (example) server or play among russians and bots on a 95% working server, I would choose the first.
Don't care about rates, just pls no cakes
Quote from: aYotech on October 15, 2010, 01:55:40 AM
Tbh the most fun i had on the 5x, was PvPing partys for their cake spot, and usually in every double room in a cata or every good lvling spot basically, there's a cake and a party protecting it. its just so fun to go kill them and hear them cry. Same goes for protecting your own cake.
so at least make server x7..
Quote from: Igorius on October 15, 2010, 03:33:06 AM
Quote from: aYotech on October 15, 2010, 01:55:40 AM
Tbh the most fun i had on the 5x, was PvPing partys for their cake spot, and usually in every double room in a cata or every good lvling spot basically, there's a cake and a party protecting it. its just so fun to go kill them and hear them cry. Same goes for protecting your own cake.
sometimes it looks, like you guys the only fun had it is to fight for cake spot.
Ogh, w8...
15x with cakes for sure not omg u wanna lvl up in 5 days to 80 or what?
Quote from: Malicious on October 15, 2010, 03:35:40 AM
Quote from: Igorius on October 15, 2010, 03:33:06 AM
Quote from: aYotech on October 15, 2010, 01:55:40 AM
Tbh the most fun i had on the 5x, was PvPing partys for their cake spot, and usually in every double room in a cata or every good lvling spot basically, there's a cake and a party protecting it. its just so fun to go kill them and hear them cry. Same goes for protecting your own cake.
sometimes it looks, like you guys the only fun had it is to fight for cake spot.
Ogh, w8...
indeed
at the begining for sure its the most funny thing ;D
pvp gonna be with cakes or w/o them
Quote from: S1xX on October 15, 2010, 03:37:19 AM
15x with cakes for sure not omg u wanna lvl up in 5 days to 80 or what?
They dont understand that on x15 with cakes they gonna make less money)
Because ppl will be in first few months 85lv and cakes will be useless)
Quote from: sTrafe. on October 15, 2010, 03:42:04 AM
Quote from: S1xX on October 15, 2010, 03:37:19 AM
15x with cakes for sure not omg u wanna lvl up in 5 days to 80 or what?
They dont understand that on x15 with cakes they gonna make less money)
Because ppl will be in first few months 85lv and cakes will be useless)
you talk to much dogshit
you can't even imagine how much money they did on x30 with cakes, even after 6 months )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
the morron who vote x15 w/o cake IS REALLY RETARDED ALLO
WE ALL KNOW
RPG = CAKES
NEW SERV USSR W/O CAKE = NO RPG
WE ALL KNOW THIS SERV IS GOING TO BE MIDDLE RATE
X1
X5
X15
X1000
THIS IS THE WAY OF THE PERFECTION
DOUBLE POST
SO X15 WITH CAKES FTW
AND GM SHOP LIKE X5
Quote from: aYotech on October 15, 2010, 01:55:40 AM
Tbh the most fun i had on the 5x, was PvPing partys for their cake spot, and usually in every double room in a cata or every good lvling spot basically, there's a cake and a party protecting it. its just so fun to go kill them and hear them cry. Same goes for protecting your own cake.
x15 and cakes means that in 3 months u will be crying in forums cause death server..
x7 and cakes is the way, or 15 and no cakes, it will be like x5 with perma cake, so at least 8 months of fun
but x45 server? common ppl, is just zzzzzz, server for 2 months only and later get another server and repeat and repeat
if u want an example of this.. look at that interlude server, nova x50 xD.. it was fun for 2 weeks? now is death
when ppls realize they playing in HI rate server, they gona quit it for another one, and never come back couse of cakes.
I, and most peoples waited for MID rate server, not for fucking HI rate server to get to grinding for endgame char in 1 week. I want to pvp with lowbies for month or 3 weeks, not for 3 hours and then only farm for s/s80 grade couse everyone does it and nobodys pvps anymore.
thats one hell of a winter . rpg opening gracia server,azure reborn with c5 , and dex just farting around in some freya underwear ! hell yea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For me it is simple rates like x15 can be but without cakes ... if u wana high rate change server... and i would prefer smthing like 8x with cakes :)
imo 2nd prof should be buyable.. to lazy for this >.<
Quote from: Slapped on October 15, 2010, 09:49:57 AM
imo 2nd prof should be buyable.. to lazy for this >.<
there's always the option with the 3kk adena quest :)
Quote from: MichaelV on October 15, 2010, 02:29:14 AM
Quote from: qqqq on October 15, 2010, 02:21:28 AM
What GMshop assortment do you prefer?
1.Gracia IG shop w/o cakes - 44%
2.Gracia IG shop w/o cakes for 1 month after start - 22%
3.Gracia IG shop with cakes (x5 like) - 33%
Not really good question. Bcs, we have just 2 groups of people. One group, which want cakes and one, which doesnt want cakes.
And group, which want cakes is divided to 2nd and 3rd answer. ;)
You are correct. This was my mistake to suggest them to add the 2nd option because many of you asked for it. We will think about it, but initial idea would be 1 vs 2+3 since 2 and 3 are pretty much the same question. And if 2+3 wins over 1, then the one with most votes would be the chosen option. This is just an idea, so don't rage at me for it.
Maybe some of those who voted for cake after 1 month would rather see no cake at all than cake after 1 month. Its unfair again :)
Quote from: SandStorm on October 15, 2010, 11:16:08 AM
Maybe some of those who voted for cake after 1 month would rather see no cake at all than cake after 1 month. Its unfair again :)
Then they would just check "Gracia IG shop w/o cakes", wouldn't they?
30-45x (10-15x respectively) are still mid-rate servers.you can't compare gracia final endgame content to interlude content.furthermore these are considered relax servers,basically casual players like me or CJ2000 (as I've recently read somewhere) can enjoy the endgame faster and maybe after 2 months or so can achieve decent gear in order to get a fighting chance against more "no-lifing" competitors.
p.s.:
Quote from: Malicious on October 15, 2010, 05:10:53 AM
I want to pvp with lowbies for month or 3 weeks, not for 3 hours and then only farm for s/s80 grade couse everyone does it and nobodys pvps anymore.
your definition about lowbies is intriguing, you define lowbies as A grade chars (even though they are 78+) ? farming IT or FOG or hellbound for that matter is PVPless? a month of being a lowbie for any rates is pretty much LOL anyway you put it
Quote from: Lomi on October 15, 2010, 11:43:30 AM
Quote from: SandStorm on October 15, 2010, 11:16:08 AM
Maybe some of those who voted for cake after 1 month would rather see no cake at all than cake after 1 month. Its unfair again :)
Then they would just check "Gracia IG shop w/o cakes", wouldn't they?
I think i wrote it wrong :)
Those people who woted for cake after 1 month. Maybe are against cake from start and would rather see no cake at all than cake from start.
I hope i wrote it better :)
15x with CAKES FTW !!
this is gonna be 1 ghay server if the 15x wins, lawl.
85.100% in common A lets go. 10x chance/ 1x amount sup.
pure homo vote.
x15 rates with cakes and server will be dead in a 2 month
x15 rates and no cakes? there wont be pvp for cakes :( no drama....
i dont rly make any difference between x15 or x10 , sin is right. In both cases 85, 100% with common itamz, gou gou
imo there even shouldnt be discussed rates over x10 or thats mean dead server on start. Best will be x7-8 with cakes , so u dont need months to farm lvl and there will be much0 pvp for cakes.
thing is those rates decrease just time to 80 lvls or so, so less pvp in c/b grades coz less time for it but time u spend on varka/hb/other places to make gear will be exactly same so its understandable those ppl who left x5 for kinda not understandable reasons so long time ago want fresh start, a start wich will take less time than pure x5 ;d
Quote from: s1nio` on October 15, 2010, 12:12:36 PM
this is gonna be 1 ghay server if the 15x wins, lawl.
85.100% in common A lets go. 10x chance/ 1x amount sup.
+1 & +1 at AwakenDemon also >> 10x will mean srv dead in 1-2 months .... -> fail srv
15x w/o cakes
its simple.
lower rates = more live for the server = more money from donation =/= fail server :)
What we vote is what we get :/
p.s. voting for x7 with cakes, don't we already have x5 with cakes? So we should have voted either 15x with cakes to make it a mid/high rate or x7 no cakes to make it a true low rate (not like x5). And it looks like x15 with cakes will win.
edit: and another thing. For no cake to win, it needs over 50% of the votes and it is at 47% right now. So it is POSSIBLE we might see a server without the cake. As for xp rate, it seems to be a fight between x15 and x7, but x15 is comfortably leading at the moment.
D.O.N.E
GG
7x or no ballz
its rpg club, there is no way server will be without cakes imo :D
Quote from: bolo5 on October 15, 2010, 01:05:12 PM
its rpg club, there is no way server will be without cakes imo :D
GMs removed cakes option of vote :D but from me +1 to cakes
Quote from: bolo5 on October 15, 2010, 01:05:12 PM
its rpg club, there is no way server will be without cakes imo :D
then stop voting for 7x , unreal use your brain 15 + cakes -> high rate -> srv dead in 1 month -> 3 months w8 for a new srv to start
Quote from: fantomel on October 15, 2010, 01:16:50 PM
Quote from: bolo5 on October 15, 2010, 01:05:12 PM
its rpg club, there is no way server will be without cakes imo :D
then stop voting for 7x , unreal use your brain 15 + cakes -> high rate -> srv dead in 1 month -> 3 months w8 for a new srv to start
ur logic failed since we had a 30x server with cakes that didnt die in 1 month
x30 was as far as i remamber and heared from many ppl most fuked up sh1t ever ;o not good example...
point of 'live'of server like that is ppl playing end game and not quiting after 1month like even on x5 luls so cant agree with u igorius here ;p
i voted 10x with cakes :)
x15 without cakes would be fine too
voted 7x and no cakes since i have no plans to play this server long term without a clan or party. its whatever
Quote from: bolo5 on October 15, 2010, 01:24:44 PM
x30 was as far as i remamber and heared from many ppl most fuked up sh1t ever ;o not good example...
point of 'live'of server like that is ppl playing end game and not quiting after 1month like even on x5 luls so cant agree with u igorius here ;p
actually the 30x was fucked up cus of bots and a lot of other shits, not cus of rates.
we are talking about a dead game, and the server gonna die quickly no matter the rates (:
the quest rates still low anyway, so we'll have to kill the same amount of mobs to get s80 recs for example.
[Quote author = sTrafe. link = topic = 7990.msg99767 # msg99767 date = 1287097755] x15 with cakes is bullshit .. At x5 with cake there was a lot off ppl 78 + in first month. So 83lv and 83skill after first month .. :) [/ Quote]
rates won't affect Fame, will they ? :)
30x is a worthless example cuz it was the first server with official gracia final files so every1 and their moms played it.
The point ur making about killing the exact same amount of mobs for s80 is exactly why the rates should be lower.
Quote from: venduj on October 15, 2010, 01:39:30 PM
[Quote author = sTrafe. link = topic = 7990.msg99767 # msg99767 date = 1287097755] x15 with cakes is bullshit .. At x5 with cake there was a lot off ppl 78 + in first month. So 83lv and 83skill after first month .. :) [/ Quote]
rates won't affect Fame, will they ? :)
Fame is a piece of shit
Quote from: s1nio` on October 15, 2010, 01:44:19 PM
30x is a worthless example cuz it was the first server with official gracia final files so every1 and their moms played it.
The point ur making about killing the exact same amount of mobs for s80 is exactly why the rates should be lower.
i got ur point, i just think that the rates by itself wont kill the server, that was what i tryed to say.
anyway, 15x w/o cakes or 7x + cakes would be good for me but 7x w/o cakes.. cmon :/
:D
omagad
so much drama here. qq moar ppl
Quote from: Riv on October 15, 2010, 02:12:51 PM
omagad
so much drama here. qq moar ppl
go back to your cave
oh, btw.
proxy FTW!
gogo spam votes moar.
servers dont die cause of rates, servers die cause of the competition (or lack of it)
but badly adjusted rates make it happen sooner ;p
1st and 2nd professions for Silvercoins
plix, lazy to do that RETARDED crap once again :-\
+1 for first and 2nd quest, lazy to farm quest on a x15
First is talking to 5 npc and second u just give 3kk away:o wtf
Quote from: djavu on October 15, 2010, 03:14:44 PM
First is talking to 5 npc and second u just give 3kk away:o wtf
Think about poor Kamaels, they can't >:( >:(
poor kamael hardest 2nd class
Quote from: paparose on October 15, 2010, 03:17:52 PM
poor kamael hardest 2nd class
omg when i see you qq yea is hard but at high lvl you dont qq any more about buff steal or perma stun
oh dear lord save me
IMO rates and cakes should be in the same vote.
ex.
-x7 w/o cakes
-x7 w/ cakes
-x10 w/o cakes
-x10 w/ cakes
-x15 w/o cakes
-x15 w/ cakes
Reason? Many ppl are afraid of 7x rates w/o cakes(grind fest). So some of them vote for x15 rates and with cakes just to avoid this shit even if they dont want x15 with cakes. I think many ppl voted like this.
Got my point ;D?
We need to vote the options for the vote
Quote from: Danny on October 15, 2010, 03:46:00 PM
IMO rates and cakes should be in the same vote.
ex.
-x7 w/o cakes
-x7 w/ cakes
-x10 w/o cakes
-x10 w/ cakes
-x15 w/o cakes
-x15 w/ cakes
Reason? Many ppl are afraid of 7x rates w/o cakes(grind fest). So some of them vote for x15 rates and with cakes just to avoid this shit even if they dont want x15 with cakes. I think many ppl voted like this.
Got my point ;D?
this.
Quote from: Kuro1n on October 15, 2010, 04:07:04 PM
Quote from: Danny on October 15, 2010, 03:46:00 PM
IMO rates and cakes should be in the same vote.
ex.
-x7 w/o cakes
-x7 w/ cakes
-x10 w/o cakes
-x10 w/ cakes
-x15 w/o cakes
-x15 w/ cakes
Reason? Many ppl are afraid of 7x rates w/o cakes(grind fest). So some of them vote for x15 rates and with cakes just to avoid this shit even if they dont want x15 with cakes. I think many ppl voted like this.
Got my point ;D?
this.
true
so i did
Allo, there is already low rate *5
If you wanna play on low rate serv go on *5
What's the point to open *7 w/ cake ( same as *5 ), or *15 w/o cake ( exactly same as *15 ).
*15 w/ cake is what a lot of poeple ( not me ) wait for a long time...
And what's happen if it die after 3 month?
= New serv !
Its rpg, lifeservtime of rpg is low, face it ;D
point is noona wana start on 1 sided server and every1 wanna fresh start
for me here should be x15 w/o cakes or x10 with cakes ...
but ofc there will be x15 and cakes ....
ehhh wana high rate go elswhere
Quote from: Mouarf on October 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Allo, there is already low rate *5
If you wanna play on low rate serv go on *5
What's the point to open *7 w/ cake ( same as *5 ), or *15 w/o cake ( exactly same as *15 ).
*15 w/ cake is what a lot of poeple ( not me ) wait for a long time...
And what's happen if it die after 3 month?
= New serv !
Its rpg, lifeservtime of rpg is low, face it ;D
Quoteits not like x5 fresh server = new comunity new drama new competition its not the same
and
Quoteok ppl lets be honest.
if a new server is coming, we want a server that we can play for at least 6 months and have fun like we all did in x5 (aka x15 with cakes) without clans that quit because nobody catch them and later clan quiting because no competition and no wars, and every other excuse ppl use to quit
So forget about x15 + cakes, the only good about that is that the server wil be fast but will result in everybody 85 after 1.5 month, and the people will be 85 and will realize that they need farm alot more to be able to get s80 and they are already 85.. eventually ppl will get bored and server will be dead
The most reasonable choices that I see are:
- x7 and no cakes 1st month
This option would garantee a nice server from its begining, good competition and fun while getting the 1st levels, sub quests, 3rd quest, etc. and after 1 month it will become a x21 so it would make things faster to end game content
- x15 and no cakes
Will be the same as x5 with perma cake, looks nice and can offer same server life as x5..
Quote from: djavu on October 15, 2010, 03:14:44 PM
First is talking to 5 npc and second u just give 3kk away:o wtf
this .
if they have no cakes it will be a miracle
hope they let people donate for noblesse because its going to be hell at barakiel with these exp rates.
Unless they reduce barakiels respawn time or make his spawn a chest for the QI.
Quote from: SwashBuckler on October 15, 2010, 07:27:14 PM
if they have no cakes it will be a miracle
hope they let people donate for noblesse because its going to be hell at barakiel with these exp rates.
Unless they reduce barakiels respawn time or make his spawn a chest for the QI.
y this is should be like with Toi RB ... chest is good choice ...
+1 for u m8
wny no auto skills? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
why no mana pots and x50 rate ???
Ok, here are my 0.02$.
First of all, I've voted for 7x, no cakes, but it doesn't mean I don't like cake at all- I really love this idea, but my vote "for" cake could mean 15x + cake as well and that's beyond my preferences. If I had a final choice, I would go for 7x and cakes after one month.
Why? Here are my thoughts:
-Cakes after one month will encourage people to start playing on this server, even if it's few weeks old, people won't be so much ahead.
-Cakes are really retarded idea to add on very beginning, mostly because it's very short time, when lowbie pvp appears, make it a little bit longer just to have fun of karmian/avadon pvps.
-One more thing bout not adding cakes on beggining- there is no mats/full items market, it really sucks to hit 78+ with everyone wearing low B grade from lux shop, there should be some time spend to craft some A grade stuff, before everyone is already hitting "the C5 endgame".
-The argument about "more lifers friendly" rate (15x + cakes) is more than not vaild- it's silly. You brag about nolifers, who are willing to spend 10h++ everyday to be ahead, and you are aware of grind. Well, people who play more will be always ahead and it has nothing to do with rates. Awarness of grind- heh, some of us are grinding in L2 for 6 years, it doesn't really matter for me anymore if I have to PvE little more or little less, I will just put the same amount of time, no matter what kind of rate we will have, I will have the same amount of people who are more stacked (via PvE) than me, so it's really not the case to disscuss if you want to setup rates.
-What's the point of haveing 15x (45x with cakes) if s80 quests are not going to be boosted in same way? Well, everyone will hit cap really quick and still have to farm tomes, lvl up HB and so on. Everyone hitting 85lvl is confusing, especially for fighter parties, that are supposed to lvl up quicker than nukers- nukers are a little bit more powerful than fighters, so according to L2 design, they should gain exp slower than fighters, very high rate (like 45x) is going to spoil this status.
-Decent party can make 15kk exp on HB on retail rate, good party can make 30kk. It means, that on 45x same parties can make 675kk-1.35B exp per hour, on 78+ you need like 2.1B-4.9B to hit next level- do you really would like to see people going from ~78 to 85.100% in less than 2 weeks from opeing HB with quite causal PvE? Well, I don't. HB is really cool place to gank, don't limit PvP only to epics,siges and oly matches so quick.
Anyway, I hope I'm going to play with my friends, and as long as there will be spot for me in their group, it really doesn't matter what rates we are going to have, but better adjusted server means more entertaing game.
if you want x7 with cakes, go on x5 wtf is so different between x5 and x7 ?
x15 even w/o cake is high rate ?
So x5 with cakes is high rate too
from where the hell you born all
not from a normal pussy fosho
Quote from: Yrezym on October 16, 2010, 04:56:33 AM
if you want x7 with cakes, go on x5 wtf is so different between x5 and x7 ?
x15 even w/o cake is high rate ?
So x5 with cakes is high rate too
from where the hell you born all
not from a normal pussy fosho
x15 w/o any crap that restore your vit is the mid rate, but since cakes are going to boost this rate to x45, it is the high rate. Oh well, please- keep your dumb comments about going back to x5 for yourself, I have no desiere to start there over again, especially if I used to play like 3-4 characters there. The other thing is, x5 afaik is one sided right now so GTFO to your cave of briliant tips. The priv servers have some lifespan, it's usually quite short period, get over it. I really don't care about other servers, this discussion is about the NEW server and everyone is supposed to express oppinion of his own on possible setup choice that will make the most entertaining place to play.
I dont get it, wasnt 15x+cakes what everyone was asking for?
Why would anyone vote for 7x without cakes srsly? Theres a fuckin low rate already dumbfucks, not our fault you failed in the 5x (or went dex LOL) and want to start over again.
go vote for x15 with cakes you fucking stupid monkeys
no cakes qq
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aboutthecake.com%2F13667efe0.jpg&hash=2b886f50989d8d6c8fe0b1a0f7b99799ff4dff28)
15x rates and cakes after 1 month is the best way for good pvp. Who cares about fkin grind, they hve 5x here.
You will have to grind (farm in specific) the same amount of time to be on top as the guys on 5x retard, only its gonna be even worse cuz you'll have worse gear while having to farm HB already. Thats the whole point dumbass.
Quote from: shiverr on October 16, 2010, 05:16:12 AM
x15 w/o any crap that restore your vit is the mid rate, but since cakes are going to boost this rate to x45, it is the high rate. Oh well, please- keep your dumb comments about going back to x5 for yourself, I have no desiere to start there over again, especially if I used to play like 3-4 characters there. The other thing is, x5 afaik is one sided right now so GTFO to your cave of briliant tips. The priv servers have some lifespan, it's usually quite short period, get over it. I really don't care about other servers, this discussion is about the NEW server and everyone is supposed to express oppinion of his own on possible setup choice that will make the most entertaining place to play.
agree +1
x15 without cakes will be great :)
Quote from: s1nio` on October 16, 2010, 01:36:21 PM
You will have to grind (farm in specific) the same amount of time to be on top as the guys on 5x retard, only its gonna be even worse cuz you'll have worse gear while having to farm HB already. Thats the whole point dumbass.
It depends on quest and drop rate, if it will be like on the 5x, then its clearly, we will be must spend the same amount of time. If that rates will be suitable for 15x xp, it's shouldn't happen.
I bet that 2% of those ppl that voted for cake after 1 month would rather vote for no cake than cake from start :))))
Anyway I would still donate some money even if no cakes.
Quote from: fenris on October 16, 2010, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: shiverr on October 16, 2010, 05:16:12 AM
x15 w/o any crap that restore your vit is the mid rate, but since cakes are going to boost this rate to x45, it is the high rate. Oh well, please- keep your dumb comments about going back to x5 for yourself, I have no desiere to start there over again, especially if I used to play like 3-4 characters there. The other thing is, x5 afaik is one sided right now so GTFO to your cave of briliant tips. The priv servers have some lifespan, it's usually quite short period, get over it. I really don't care about other servers, this discussion is about the NEW server and everyone is supposed to express oppinion of his own on possible setup choice that will make the most entertaining place to play.
agree +1
x15 without cakes will be great :)
Here we go again, if you want x15 w/o cakes, you have already the x5 with cakes who gives you x15
lack of brain.
is there a way to see the results of what is winning? every time i go to the voting page to look it makes me have to vote again to see the results.
sounds like dynamic IP. if u had a static one, you'd have been able to see the results every time u just get on their vote page. go and vote again, let's get fake results as it should in russia be done
Quote from: Yrezym on October 16, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: fenris on October 16, 2010, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: shiverr on October 16, 2010, 05:16:12 AM
x15 w/o any crap that restore your vit is the mid rate, but since cakes are going to boost this rate to x45, it is the high rate. Oh well, please- keep your dumb comments about going back to x5 for yourself, I have no desiere to start there over again, especially if I used to play like 3-4 characters there. The other thing is, x5 afaik is one sided right now so GTFO to your cave of briliant tips. The priv servers have some lifespan, it's usually quite short period, get over it. I really don't care about other servers, this discussion is about the NEW server and everyone is supposed to express oppinion of his own on possible setup choice that will make the most entertaining place to play.
agree +1
x15 without cakes will be great :)
Here we go again, if you want x15 w/o cakes, you have already the x5 with cakes who gives you x15
lack of brain.
i seriously cant believe people can be that stupid, are u fucking retarded, cantu understand that people DONT CARE THAT THERES A 5x SERVER WITH CAKE WHICH CAN BE FUCKING 15x, THEY WANT FUCKING FRESH SERVER U MOTHERFUCKER SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY FUCKING RETARD GO DIE@(%!*^(@!#^@!
NOOBS ALL WHO VOTE 15x WITHOUT CAKES, GO TO NANAKI (Azuregaming) its 15x U MORONS THERES ALREADY A 7x SERVER OUT THERE RETARDS
never saw so much sentiment put in a forum before.
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
oh fuck is so good to be awake :-* .......... or is it? :)
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: Yrezym on October 16, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: fenris on October 16, 2010, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: shiverr on October 16, 2010, 05:16:12 AM
x15 w/o any crap that restore your vit is the mid rate, but since cakes are going to boost this rate to x45, it is the high rate. Oh well, please- keep your dumb comments about going back to x5 for yourself, I have no desiere to start there over again, especially if I used to play like 3-4 characters there. The other thing is, x5 afaik is one sided right now so GTFO to your cave of briliant tips. The priv servers have some lifespan, it's usually quite short period, get over it. I really don't care about other servers, this discussion is about the NEW server and everyone is supposed to express oppinion of his own on possible setup choice that will make the most entertaining place to play.
agree +1
x15 without cakes will be great :)
Here we go again, if you want x15 w/o cakes, you have already the x5 with cakes who gives you x15
lack of brain.
i seriously cant believe people can be that stupid, are u fucking retarded, cantu understand that people DONT CARE THAT THERES A 5x SERVER WITH CAKE WHICH CAN BE FUCKING 15x, THEY WANT FUCKING FRESH SERVER U MOTHERFUCKER SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY FUCKING RETARD GO DIE@(%!*^(@!#^@!
NOOBS ALL WHO VOTE 15x WITHOUT CAKES, GO TO NANAKI (Azuregaming) its 15x U MORONS THERES ALREADY A 7x SERVER OUT THERE RETARDS
u mad ;/
why do u think my full name is avraham maduel
spookyit - iRage
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: Yrezym on October 16, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: fenris on October 16, 2010, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: shiverr on October 16, 2010, 05:16:12 AM
x15 w/o any crap that restore your vit is the mid rate, but since cakes are going to boost this rate to x45, it is the high rate. Oh well, please- keep your dumb comments about going back to x5 for yourself, I have no desiere to start there over again, especially if I used to play like 3-4 characters there. The other thing is, x5 afaik is one sided right now so GTFO to your cave of briliant tips. The priv servers have some lifespan, it's usually quite short period, get over it. I really don't care about other servers, this discussion is about the NEW server and everyone is supposed to express oppinion of his own on possible setup choice that will make the most entertaining place to play.
agree +1
x15 without cakes will be great :)
Here we go again, if you want x15 w/o cakes, you have already the x5 with cakes who gives you x15
lack of brain.
i seriously cant believe people can be that stupid, are u fucking retarded, cantu understand that people DONT CARE THAT THERES A 5x SERVER WITH CAKE WHICH CAN BE FUCKING 15x, THEY WANT FUCKING FRESH SERVER U MOTHERFUCKER SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY FUCKING RETARD GO DIE@(%!*^(@!#^@!
NOOBS ALL WHO VOTE 15x WITHOUT CAKES, GO TO NANAKI (Azuregaming) its 15x U MORONS THERES ALREADY A 7x SERVER OUT THERE RETARDS
you're strong troll too, who cares about a x15 server in C4 or whatever lolchronicles, PEOPLE WANT FRESH MID RATE SERVER ON RPG, i don't even know why you talk, you were not even playing on x30, the x30 server got a longer life than this lolx5. btw
lol
what the fuck x30 has to do with x5 or this fucking 'c4 lol chronicleserver' im pointing out that if people want the new server to be low rate u dont go and tell them 'u can go 5x thats a low rate server' and if u honestly mean that, then i should stop arguing with u cause its pointles
'i dont know what u talk, u were not even on the 30x' ok wtf what this statement has to do with our arguement?
everyone has a right to vote for w/e rates he want, no one asks u where to play and what to wish for, just to make sure u understood me i will let u know that i voted like you for 15x + cakes but i just cant stand seeing people like u who bash people just cause they want a low rate server.
Since when x15 is low rates?
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 06:39:34 PM
what the fuck x30 has to do with x5 or this fucking 'c4 lol chronicleserver' im pointing out that if people want the new server to be low rate u dont go and tell them 'u can go 5x thats a low rate server' and if u honestly mean that, then i should stop arguing with u cause its pointles
'i dont know what u talk, u were not even on the 30x' ok wtf what this statement has to do with our arguement?
everyone has a right to vote for w/e rates he want, no one asks u where to play and what to wish for, just to make sure u understood me i will let u know that i voted like you for 15x + cakes but i just cant stand seeing people like u who bash people just cause they want a low rate server.
ok
heres a question how do we know theres was no guy who used a Boting Voter, or restarted his IP 300 times to vote just vote for example a 15x server? so he/she can have a 15x server?
Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on October 16, 2010, 06:40:27 PM
Since when x15 is low rates?
where did i say that 15x is a low rate? u try so hard but u dont even pay attention and read :/
btw some one is out of arguements :<
dude, stop reply please.
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 06:58:28 PM
Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on October 16, 2010, 06:40:27 PM
Since when x15 is low rates?
where did i say that 15x is a low rate? u try so hard but u dont even pay attention and read :/
btw some one is out of arguements :<
Because you said low rate and when talked about x15. Gratz feg, you failed.
u keep proving u are out of arguements, "ok" "dude stop reply" lol "please bro im out of arguements stop"
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 07:02:10 PM
u keep proving u are out of arguements, "ok" "dude stop reply" lol "please bro im out of arguements stop"
You already proved that you're a feg, so plz stop posting. You don't have nothing left to prove.
Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on October 16, 2010, 07:01:08 PM
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 06:58:28 PM
Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on October 16, 2010, 06:40:27 PM
Since when x15 is low rates?
where did i say that 15x is a low rate? u try so hard but u dont even pay attention and read :/
btw some one is out of arguements :<
Because you said low rate and when talked about x15. Gratz feg, you failed.
are u fucking stupid or what? do u know how to fucking read and understand what people try to say? quote me where i say that 15x is a low rate, u didnt do it yet 'feg'
me saying that i voted 15x with cakes doesnt mean that im one of those players who want low rate just cause i started a flame war with that other retard.
stop spam 8)
Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on October 16, 2010, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 07:02:10 PM
u keep proving u are out of arguements, "ok" "dude stop reply" lol "please bro im out of arguements stop"
You already proved that you're a feg, so plz stop posting. You don't have nothing left to prove.
how can u call some one a feg, all u did since 5x start was flaming clans for their failures yet u were a total random to everyone, no one knew u... but its okay every server has that kind of plyaers who stand there clanless with a fake nick and bash other clans cause they think 'no one can flame me back im a random and without caln i have never failed and i cant fail as a single player lololol i won'
Quote from: penom on October 16, 2010, 07:09:56 PM
stop spam 8)
silly penom u didnt even see what spam is, people should know me by now :( i just cant stop unles i take my retaline or concerta, hyperactive ftw <3
Quote from: SSX on October 16, 2010, 06:57:17 PM
heres a question how do we know theres was no guy who used a Boting Voter, or restarted his IP 300 times to vote just vote for example a 15x server? so he/she can have a 15x server?
We don't. Know of a way to make the perfect voting? It can be abused no matter what.
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: Yrezym on October 16, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: fenris on October 16, 2010, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: shiverr on October 16, 2010, 05:16:12 AM
x15 w/o any crap that restore your vit is the mid rate, but since cakes are going to boost this rate to x45, it is the high rate. Oh well, please- keep your dumb comments about going back to x5 for yourself, I have no desiere to start there over again, especially if I used to play like 3-4 characters there. The other thing is, x5 afaik is one sided right now so GTFO to your cave of briliant tips. The priv servers have some lifespan, it's usually quite short period, get over it. I really don't care about other servers, this discussion is about the NEW server and everyone is supposed to express oppinion of his own on possible setup choice that will make the most entertaining place to play.
agree +1
x15 without cakes will be great :)
Here we go again, if you want x15 w/o cakes, you have already the x5 with cakes who gives you x15
lack of brain.
i seriously cant believe people can be that stupid, are u fucking retarded, cantu understand that people DONT CARE THAT THERES A 5x SERVER WITH CAKE WHICH CAN BE FUCKING 15x, THEY WANT FUCKING FRESH SERVER U MOTHERFUCKER SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY FUCKING RETARD GO DIE@(%!*^(@!#^@!
NOOBS ALL WHO VOTE 15x WITHOUT CAKES, GO TO NANAKI (Azuregaming) its 15x U MORONS THERES ALREADY A 7x SERVER OUT THERE RETARDS
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.imtwelve.com%2Fgallery%2Fu-mad17cc.jpg&hash=6aea018965de3189a2cbc19b58a2f3cde5398eb8)
but 95% of ur post its true people just only want fresh server with 7x rates and no cakes but i think gonna win 15x withing cakes
Quote from: baho on October 16, 2010, 07:13:16 PM
Quote from: SSX on October 16, 2010, 06:57:17 PM
heres a question how do we know theres was no guy who used a Boting Voter, or restarted his IP 300 times to vote just vote for example a 15x server? so he/she can have a 15x server?
We don't. Know of a way to make the perfect voting? It can be abused no matter what.
So let's assume this "Guy" who voted XXX times for 15x server and most ppl voted for 7x or 10x . So everyone will be forced to play 15x becouse of some guy who wants server to be 15x? thats bull**** -_-
yo the life is unfair u know 8)
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on October 16, 2010, 07:01:08 PM
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 06:58:28 PM
Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on October 16, 2010, 06:40:27 PM
Since when x15 is low rates?
where did i say that 15x is a low rate? u try so hard but u dont even pay attention and read :/
btw some one is out of arguements :<
Because you said low rate and when talked about x15. Gratz feg, you failed.
are u fucking stupid or what? do u know how to fucking read and understand what people TRY to say? quote me where i say that 15x is a low rate, u didnt do it yet 'feg'
me saying that i voted 15x with cakes doesnt mean that im one of those players who want low rate just cause i started a flame war with that other retard.
Insert Coins
Yrezym - arguements, i have none... so i try to look cool with my awesome replies which have cool features.
easy.
cool
he thinks im new at this, i know ur strategy sir but it does not work anymore cause the reason u went that strategy cause u have none! so I WIN!!!! yeah!!!
ok
Quote from: SSX on October 16, 2010, 07:24:06 PM
Quote from: baho on October 16, 2010, 07:13:16 PM
Quote from: SSX on October 16, 2010, 06:57:17 PM
heres a question how do we know theres was no guy who used a Boting Voter, or restarted his IP 300 times to vote just vote for example a 15x server? so he/she can have a 15x server?
We don't. Know of a way to make the perfect voting? It can be abused no matter what.
So let's assume this "Guy" who voted XXX times for 15x server and most ppl voted for 7x or 10x . So everyone will be forced to play 15x becouse of some guy who wants server to be 15x? thats bull**** -_-
If there is a guy abusing one side, its pretty much a given there will be a guy abusing for the other side also. So it evens out in the end anyway.
Plus, there is no way to make the perfect voting, it can be abused no matter what you do. Only solution is ... to NOT hold the vote. Is this what you imply? To cancel the vote and let admins chose settings? GZ
spooky seem to be enjoying yourself .. i take it that means ur gonna play :D? if so what class u going man
Quote from: neglect on October 16, 2010, 08:20:52 PM
spooky seem to be enjoying yourself .. i take it that means ur gonna play :D? if so what class u going man
not sure yet, i think wc. what about u?
Quote from: spookyit on October 16, 2010, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: neglect on October 16, 2010, 08:20:52 PM
spooky seem to be enjoying yourself .. i take it that means ur gonna play :D? if so what class u going man
not sure yet, i think wc. what about u?
wc a good class for u man, PvE friendly. since im clanless atm im not obligated to any class so i might change but im prob going trickster.
what people are doing with dynamic ips/proxy etc it could well backfire at this community , so think properly before u think of using such options.
Quote from: MichaelV on October 15, 2010, 02:29:14 AM
You are correct. This was my mistake to suggest them to add the 2nd option because many of you asked for it. We will think about it, but initial idea would be 1 vs 2+3 since 2 and 3 are pretty much the same question. And if 2+3 wins over 1, then the one with most votes would be the chosen option. This is just an idea, so don't rage at me for it.
Concerning this problem, i thought more about it and would like to suggest to admins one of this 2 following suggestions (keep in mind that if 1st option has over 50% none of the options below apply and "no cake" wins).
So, if 2nd+3rd > 1st in overall votes, i have this 2 ideas:
1) Automatically add 1st option's vote to 2nd since all those that voted for no cake would clearly vote for no cake for "X" months;
OR
2) Make another poll just about the cake asking:
a) Cake from start
b) Cake after 1 month
c) Cake after 2 months
...
"x") Cake after "X" months
Discuss, tell me what would you like more.
p.s. Initially it was suppose to be cake or no cake options. And i suggested them to add the cake after 1 month option cause i was sure most of you would want this. Seems i was wrong and at same time kinda broken the question too : )
Maybe fix question right now? So people can start Voting already, we all know there will be cakes but just will they be right now or after 1 month is thing should be Voted. We are aware that server needs to "live" from something.
instead of adding what u said(if the 2nd+3rd option=51%+)
add 2 options as u said u were thinking since the start,
1st)no cake
2nd)cake
since u cant be sure that ALL the ppl that voted for the 2nd options rly want cakes
this would make the nocake guys put their votes on many options and eventually cake from start would win,
cake after 1st month and a option after 3th month (lets say starters from begining would make 85/75/75/75 easily) so u can boost new commers.
if there is a new poll with months, 2 choices of months max
most fair would be modify it now , on cake or no cake, and if cake wins, vote for month
Quote from: SplichO on October 17, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
we all know there will be cakes
Are you insinuating something? Maybe you want a vacation from RPG servers?
If any option goes over 50% it is the clear winner. And is same for first option. If it has over 50% you won't see the cake on this new server.
@mcCoy;paparose
We can make a 2nd poll after this one ends, only with the cake problem for a few days. And we will make just 2 options (since you are right with the many options) with cake from start or after X month(s).
MV do dmth with sieges on x5, smth is buged and we not receive fame :/
MV: i've reported it to admin.
btw why all the fuzz with "merging" vote 2 and 3?if u ask me its not so fair since this is the only vote that u are doin this
votes were never like that, the option with the most votes wins, nothing more nothing less
it doesnt matter if some of the options have some similarities
It's simple, 2nd and 3rd option are pretty much the same thing with a small difference. People that want the maximum balance will vote for no cake first month, but want it after a while when the start rush passed. If it would've been the 2 options from start (cake and no cake) all this people that voted for cake after 1 month would've certainly voted for the cake, thus making this option the winner.
Did you understood now?
i udnerstand that, but still as i said, votes were never like that, and these kind of votes wont be fair(if votes can be fair anyway) at all
anyway, let it be
better merge them now on cake and no cake
Ok, good idea. I will suggest them that. And in the eventuality that cake wins, we will hold another vote if you want from start or after some time. Is it good my dear cry babies? : )
Well I mean the main problem of this pool is that too many questions are related with others :
For example, people may want cakes on a X7 but not on a X15.
People may want SC in GM shop if cakes are available, but not if you can get nobless/sub with them etc etc.
I think you should have took a little bit more time to get first rates/siege time then NPC buffers/Quest items then ask for cakes, then for SC in GMshop.
(And I'm sure that if cakes came out after the start of the server same as SC in GM it won't change anything and you would have a better idea about what players are looking for.)
i voted no cake for 1st month. if this option was removed i would have wanted my vote to just go toward no cake at all...so.
@angelune
x15 is the clear winner in my opinion. You can vote for cake or no cake depending on that
@neglect
if cake wins, there will be another poll if you want cake or not from that start. It's pretty much same thing with my initial idea, that i posted at start of thread but in a slighter different execution. This way, the result is a little more exact.
will there be 'change vote coins for cake' option ? if yes, will vote coins be tradeable ? :P
Quote from: MichaelV on October 17, 2010, 05:25:51 PM
@angelune
x15 is the clear winner in my opinion. You can vote for cake or no cake depending on that
@neglect
if cake wins, there will be another poll if you want cake or not from that start. It's pretty much same thing with my initial idea, that i posted at start of thread but in a slighter different execution. This way, the result is a little more exact.
merging the two last options now is unfair, since everybody uses their vote chances already.
If you will do that then reset the poll
Quote from: neglect on October 17, 2010, 05:17:37 PM
i voted no cake for 1st month. if this option was removed i would have wanted my vote to just go toward no cake at all...so.
puting "yes cakes" and "cakes after 1 month" together is wrong, couse ppl that voted "after one month" could put their vote for "no cakes", if they wouldnt have the 1 month option at the first place. thats the way i see it. neglect is an example. and i dont realy see a point to make a second poll for "cakes from start" or "after one month", couse every1 that voted no cakes r most likely gonna vote for cakes as late as possible.
theres a bit of a mess and i normaly wouldnt complain at all, jsut that the voting results r realy close together, like 48% / 52%. wich means that ppl like neglect could turn the poll into "no cake" favor if they wouldnt have a choise "cake after 1 month" form the start.
Quote from: MichaelV on October 17, 2010, 05:25:51 PM
@angelune
x15 is the clear winner in my opinion. You can vote for cake or no cake depending on that
I agree that X15 is now the winner. But a lot of players voted without knowing that. Hence I think that making a new pool about cakes would be better now. So we are sure all "Yes cakes" are "Yes cakes for X15" and same goes for "No Cakes".
And to be honnest I think there is still plenty of time to remake this poll so none gonna get frustrated about a "wrong vote".
Cake or No Cake – that is the question
Best option would be to just remove the cake question now, until the rates vote is over. Then, start vote for cake and depending on what rates will win, people will know exactly if cake is needed or not.
Now stop QQing fegs
Quote from: baho on October 17, 2010, 06:58:45 PM
Best option would be to just remove the cake question now, until the rates vote is over. Then, start vote for cake and depending on what rates will win, people will know exactly if cake is needed or not.
Now stop QQing fegs
Guess whos gonna win.
7x 26%
10x 18%
15x 56%
4500 votes
There won't be the cakes. Take it like a man. :D
Quote from: 1736 on October 17, 2010, 07:06:02 PM
There won't be the cakes. Take it like a man. :D
If people, who votted "no cake" will send each month to server atleast 20 dolars, so we have sure future , than i don't have problem with server w/o cake. ;)
I have to agree with qqqq. I don't think that income from simple items in GM shop and features such as change name/clan name/etc. will be enough to pay the bandwidth for a server with 5k concurrent players daily.
I think cake is inevitable... i think.
Anyway, this server is supposed to replace the long gone and forgotten 30x (90x) and it won't be a crime if this server is a 45x after the votes. And considering RPG network doesn't and never had a true low rate server (international) i'm sure this is the next server that will come (when ever it will happen, probably next year in autumn/winter). This will be for all this 16h/day l2 ppl, their dream becoming a reality.
MV said in another topic that there are no problems with money, they have another source for that
quote please, never seen that
Quote from: MichaelV on October 09, 2010, 08:56:39 PM
I never said there won't be cakes. I said "wait for the vote". Depending on the options of the vote and, of course, your votes, there will or there won't be some kind of items.
To my knowledge, the options will be the official gracia final shop (the one on ru retail) with different options. What those options are, you will see when the vote is up. (don't take this as official info, i'm really not sure what the options will be)
Oh, and one more thing. Don't worry for the bills, there are other people to take care of the worrying about this : )
And you concluded from that, that he said they have another source of income? All he said was that us, the players, shouldn't think about those things. Those are admins problems. And i suppose that if they couldn't take care of the server, they wouldn't have added the "no cake" option in the first place.
they have russian maffia sponsoring them :)
worst idea ever is to merge votes. You already did pool, so keep it like it is. I know admins still wants include cakes, so add i after 2 months (from new years), and everyone will be happy. I dont know there will be someone who disagreas from thoose ppls who dont wanted cakes at all.
Quote from: MichaelV on October 17, 2010, 04:27:14 PM
Quote from: SplichO on October 17, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
we all know there will be cakes
Are you insinuating something?
Nope, just having a personal opinion which is much more realistic then people who are dreaming about server without cakes. I anyway said i will play with or without cakes so as for me i just wanna know it for 100%
no cakes np,
yes cakes np, just to be 100% sure how is gonna be and then i will adapt to w/e situation with cakes will be. What i am afraid of is prices change on Cakes or some other drastic "solution" that happened on x5, since i was in that group of ppl that lost $$$ cose donation took 3 days to get to me so i had half of what i payed for at start cose Cake price was changed without any previous announce. I am sure you remember this situation also so i don't see a reason why would i insinuate anything i am just worried and a bit "rushing" to see what will final set up be.
who cares if u lost 5 cakes ><
omfg splicho u always make walls
Quote from: xtln on October 17, 2010, 08:41:47 PM
omfg splicho u always make walls
No just trying to explain MV why i said "there will be cakes anyway" and he thought i am trying to talk about some "conspiracy" cose i wasn't.
no1 cares about 1 player opinion
Quote from: McCoy on October 17, 2010, 07:34:58 PM
MV said in another topic that there are no problems with money, they have another source for that
Haha russians. (:
"another source" sounds very suspicious... xD
Quote from: xtln on October 17, 2010, 08:41:47 PM
omfg splicho u always make walls
agreed.
15x no cakes no buffers and total domination.
Buhaaa!!! no cakes just pure L2 !!!
Quote from: Angelune on October 17, 2010, 05:08:08 PM
Well I mean the main problem of this pool is that too many questions are related with others :
For example, people may want cakes on a X7 but not on a X15.
People may want SC in GM shop if cakes are available, but not if you can get nobless/sub with them etc etc.
I think you should have took a little bit more time to get first rates/siege time then NPC buffers/Quest items then ask for cakes, then for SC in GMshop.
(And I'm sure that if cakes came out after the start of the server same as SC in GM it won't change anything and you would have a better idea about what players are looking for.)
this guy speaks the truth!
+1
Quote from: fenris on October 18, 2010, 12:37:05 AM
Buhaaa!!! no cakes just pure L2 !!!
pure l2 = bot 24/7
15x, dont care the rest
Quote from: Gawain on October 18, 2010, 01:07:59 AM
Quote from: fenris on October 18, 2010, 12:37:05 AM
Buhaaa!!! no cakes just pure L2 !!!
pure l2 = bot 24/7
pure l2 mean no boxes + pre paid and rates x1
l2walker is feature used on official to make players get xp... and it is a mistake :/
thats why i dont play any longer on official ...
noooooooooooooooooo me wantz caek!!!! ppl will go homo/pve and no pivipi
Quote from: fenris on October 18, 2010, 02:43:24 AM
Quote from: Gawain on October 18, 2010, 01:07:59 AM
Quote from: fenris on October 18, 2010, 12:37:05 AM
Buhaaa!!! no cakes just pure L2 !!!
pure l2 = bot 24/7
pure l2 mean no boxes + pre paid and rates x1
you kidding? no boxes?
and whole adena-maker botparties is what?
Quote from: Angelune on October 17, 2010, 05:08:08 PM
Well I mean the main problem of this pool is that too many questions are related with others :
For example, people may want cakes on a X7 but not on a X15.
Yes, that's exactly what I've voted. x7 with cakes otherwise if that option wouldn't be there I would voted x15 w/o cakes.
Quote from: Wimi on October 18, 2010, 10:55:22 AM
Quote from: Angelune on October 17, 2010, 05:08:08 PM
Well I mean the main problem of this pool is that too many questions are related with others :
For example, people may want cakes on a X7 but not on a X15.
Yes, that's exactly what I've voted. x7 with cakes otherwise if that option wouldn't be there I would voted x15 w/o cakes.
No matter how is decided at the end, main thing is to stick it to what was Voted (Decided) for and not change this later.
Quote from: Gawain on October 18, 2010, 09:36:01 AM
Quote from: fenris on October 18, 2010, 02:43:24 AM
Quote from: Gawain on October 18, 2010, 01:07:59 AM
Quote from: fenris on October 18, 2010, 12:37:05 AM
Buhaaa!!! no cakes just pure L2 !!!
pure l2 = bot 24/7
pure l2 mean no boxes + pre paid and rates x1
you kidding? no boxes?
and whole adena-maker botparties is what?
if u wana pay each month for more than 1 account it is ur problem ... the same here u can donate each month10-20 $ for silvercoins for runes ... or other interesting items ...
so : SAY NO TO CAKES :)
if there will be no cakes , what about tokens?
Quote from: PleaseBleed on October 17, 2010, 09:58:47 PM
Quote from: xtln on October 17, 2010, 08:41:47 PM
omfg splicho u always make walls
agreed.
15x no cakes no buffers and total domination.
Indeed
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seems vote system is bugged, i voted 1 time, then i could 2nd right after 1st (and i did, just for check results), and both votes counted ;x
Quote from: Sensualess on October 18, 2010, 07:45:57 PM
seems vote system is bugged, i voted 1 time, then i could 2nd right after 1st (and i did, just for check results), and both votes counted ;x
be patient
ok cap. but srsly ;\ few hours ago for server rates was approximately 5k votes. prolly so mucho ppl are voting today?;d
Vote are buged, everyone can votes how many time he wants today : /
that why vote 2 week is too long
1 week is realy ok for vote and it avoid problem like that :(
y lol
the votes for cakes were from 5750 to 5950 in ~5 mins
rofl
vote disabled why ???????
russian clan zergin the vote imo
Quote from: dem0 on October 18, 2010, 08:31:34 PM
suuure
//LE : fun : https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php?topic=8097.0 you'll come with an explanation for this we hope.
LINK NOT WORKING :(
Vote system will be changed and open without today`s votes.
cool. hope no more glitches :)
Quote from: Шабака on October 18, 2010, 08:45:41 PM
Vote system will be changed and open without today`s votes.
When will you announce Live date?
Vote continue.
Quote from: SplichO on October 19, 2010, 12:05:08 AM
Quote from: Шабака on October 18, 2010, 08:45:41 PM
Vote system will be changed and open without today`s votes.
When will you announce Live date?
why the fuck you are in such a rush?
wow, but here gm ingame shop=big supermarket with all the goodies for sale scrolls/juices/buffs/rune/xp scrolls/etc . wow, money machine here ! ill skip it, waiting for a normal non custom server tho (azure/dex) gl and hf guyz , no chance 4 me here :)
50% for no cakes
=o
Quote from: GIXI on October 19, 2010, 12:55:42 AM
wow, but here gm ingame shop=big supermarket with all the goodies for sale scrolls/juices/buffs/rune/xp scrolls/etc . wow, money machine here ! ill skip it, waiting for a normal non custom server tho (azure/dex) gl and hf guyz , no chance 4 me here :)
What a retard. Most of the stuff in GM shop is the same as l2.ru and overall, most are useless. Only cake, vitality hats and xp runes (runes which no one uses) have an impact on gameplay. Like anyone cares for buff scrolls/juices. Don't forget to take your stupidity with you. And the cake is a very interesting item overall, well balanced and pvp incentive.
And none of this gameplay "influencing" stuff will be on the new x15 considering the vote and what MV said. I feel sorry for my self, having to waste precious forum space and own time to answer to ... a romanian peisant!
bleah,no fun here ! !! and is "peasant" ... boule ! ;D ;D
u know, one very smart guy who played a lot l2 ( i think was stalin or nietzche(,said that the best server is the server where you have fun and make friends, no matter buggy or not !
cakes.... thats a lot of fun .......pffff.... quite...
bahio> lemme throw one cake in your pumpkin fat pimpled face, for fun !!! i even give you some donator coins, to play with them ! a? what do u say ? u can buy goodies from the gm shop ! funfunfun, neverending funnnn,lalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: GIXI on October 19, 2010, 01:16:02 AM
bleah,no fun here ! !! and is "peasant" ... boule ! ;D ;D
Sorry, my bad. Was actually aiming at "paysan" but it's a long time since i've done french in school. You got the point anyway.
Idea is nobody cares about your uneducated, "cocalar" opinions. So, shove them up your rectum and go on that server where you have fun. I don't even understand what your doing here, since you were "having fun with friends" already there. Maybe you're suffering of alzheimer? You must be pretty smart to contradict your self in same post.
Quote from: GIXI on October 19, 2010, 01:16:02 AM
bleah,no fun here ! !! and is "peasant" ... boule ! ;D ;D
u know, one very smart guy who played a lot l2 ( i think was stalin or nietzche(,said that the best server is the server where you have fun and make friends, no matter buggy or not !
cakes.... thats a lot of fun .......pffff.... quite...
bahio> lemme throw one cake in your pumpkin fat pimpled face, for fun !!! i even give you some donator coins, to play with them ! a? what do u say ? u can buy goodies from the gm shop ! funfunfun, neverending funnnn,lalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cool story bra
i see its a big romanian community here :) hi m8s
Still 12 votes diference
Quote from: GIXI on October 19, 2010, 12:55:42 AM
wow, but here gm ingame shop=big supermarket with all the goodies for sale scrolls/juices/buffs/rune/xp scrolls/etc . wow, money machine here ! ill skip it, waiting for a normal non custom server tho (azure/dex) gl and hf guyz , no chance 4 me here :)
big lost(
very big lost indeed!
where lost = retard
even the panda community is sad
Quote from: SandStorm on October 19, 2010, 10:54:18 AM
Still 12 votes diference
no matter what cakes will win
believe meh ;p
i want cakes, 45 rate is good, y there will be nolifers who will reach 81++ in a week ( or sooner lol ), but for other people who will play 2-4 hours per a day it is good deal :)
24 hours done deal. fvck x45 rates
Quote from: venduj on October 19, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
i want cakes, 45 rate is good, y there will be nolifers who will reach 81++ in a week ( or sooner lol ), but for other people who will play 2-4 hours per a day it is good deal :)
on x45 rates 1 day for 3th class
oke w/o cakes now start server 8th nov !
Quote from: SandStorm on October 19, 2010, 01:16:11 PM
Quote from: venduj on October 19, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
i want cakes, 45 rate is good, y there will be nolifers who will reach 81++ in a week ( or sooner lol ), but for other people who will play 2-4 hours per a day it is good deal :)
on x45 rates 1 day for 3th class
cool, no nolife needed :)
Why the same idiots who cry about the cakes are the same randoms who gonna quit or be "owning" arround with their level 78 AWs ? :-\
liek those pro clams who are thinking that they owned 'da server and there is no competition and they leave in 2 months max. oh wait thats another story, those at least aren't randoms.
Quote from: Sirius92 on October 19, 2010, 03:07:19 PM
Why the same idiots who cry about the cakes are the same randoms who gonna quit or be "owning" arround with their level 78 AWs ? :-\
Like...(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg197.imageshack.us%2Fimg197%2F3549%2Fgenosig.png&hash=686695a8fa6dac75d840001e61cf533d442fec54)
...Do!
yeah colstory
3 months clam..
Quote from: Malicious on October 19, 2010, 05:19:21 PM
3 months clam..
and still amazing what we do in 3 months, compared with what u do in 6 right? ^^
Quote from: Bispo on October 19, 2010, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: Malicious on October 19, 2010, 05:19:21 PM
3 months clam..
and still amazing what we do in 3 months, compared with what u do in 6 right? ^^
yes, i am.
and i want to have no life too, and ppls in clan like you.. overgear, outlevel ather players, and cry whole day after, that i dont have cw. And act in forums "server winer". And most im amazing in clan community like yours.
i overthinked now, can i join geno? Never was in half randoom clan with "hardcore"(or in ather words, just and nolifers w/o job/school/uni) clam. but i think i already know whats going to be an ansver on app: "no sorry, you have life".
no, sorry, get on our level first :(
shits going down bro
i cant understand why ppl flame real lifes here, this is a game retards just play as much as u can to be on top.
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http://img837.imageshack.us/f/mathfail.jpg/
some1 hacked it imo
51+14+36=101 !
But who cares, it's not like CAKE IZ GOIN' TO WIN!
dunno why u vote w/o cakes, will be the same as 5x lmao , gl with that
-2 already :(
Quote from: exso on October 19, 2010, 10:39:51 PM
dunno why u vote w/o cakes, will be the same as 5x lmao , gl with that
FOR BALANCE you idiot.
For more fun)
if no cakes, i hope there will be some xp rune/vitality hats or something for vote coins
no fucking vitality shits runes hats dildos and other stuff. Make the start same for everyone, then after a couple of months add this sh1ts for those that afford to pour money into this game. Thnx a lot!
ppl cryin about zerg/cheats/nolife on l2 is cool
ppl crying about rl on l2 forams is still best
Make those annoying 1st ,2nd and 3rd class qests doable trough NPC and let ppl buy the marks... Putting them for silver coins is dumb...
First class is easy
Second u can buy it already)
Third nah it too much :>
and gz eze with ban)
Quote from: Aurelius on October 19, 2010, 10:59:07 PM
Quote from: exso on October 19, 2010, 10:39:51 PM
dunno why u vote w/o cakes, will be the same as 5x lmao , gl with that
FOR BALANCE you idiot.
if u mean that ppl would donate shitloads of them mby, but i didint meant it so
Quote from: Malicious on October 19, 2010, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: Bispo on October 19, 2010, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: Malicious on October 19, 2010, 05:19:21 PM
3 months clam..
and still amazing what we do in 3 months, compared with what u do in 6 right? ^^
yes, i am.
and i want to have no life too, and ppls in clan like you.. overgear, outlevel ather players, and cry whole day after, that i dont have cw. And act in forums "server winer". And most im amazing in clan community like yours.
i overthinked now, can i join geno? Never was in half randoom clan with "hardcore"(or in ather words, just and nolifers w/o job/school/uni) clam. but i think i already know whats going to be an ansver on app: "no sorry, you have life".
I think answer would be "no sory, dont need another forum troll"
ppl why you want to farm?
P.S. I'm not joining new server, just curious?
Why men, WHY? :((( Now no one will play, the hell with you!
p.s. got any other personal and super interesting facts about you, that you would like to share with us? WE CARE
Quote from: Aurelius on October 20, 2010, 01:11:37 PM
Why men, WHY? :((( Now no one will play, the hell with you!
p.s. got any other personal and super interesting facts about you, that you would like to share with us? WE CARE
you could just reply: "cuz I'm retard" no need to waste the kes on keyboard.
Yes you are
Quote from: sTrafe. on October 20, 2010, 12:44:52 AM
First class is easy
Second u can buy it already)
Third nah it too much :>
and gz eze with ban)
The second you can buy yeah, but its expensive on that lvl and at time when mans need to farm adenka for the clanpub! Ehm hall!
omfg.. ppls so tard voting w/o cakes.... it makes fckn same server like x5
ITS SAME retards!!
who is lvling w/o cake on x5? no1
omfg omfg >:( >:( >:( omfg omfg >:( >:( >:(
x5 w/ cakes =/= x15 w/o cakes
WHY ?!
Simple answer, NOT EVRYONE has abilty to change their IP. On x5 those who have that ability coudl easly own those who dosent have it. SO IT WAS UNFAIR, the exp progres wasnt equal.
Example : there was planty o ppl which coudl easly get 15...20+ cakes per day , when others coudl have only ONE cake after 7 DAYS
So x5 w/ cakes = x15 w/o cakes for sure BUT NOT FOR EVERYONE
On x15 w/o cakes is making FAIR and EQUAL chance to exp for EVERYONE (except No-Lifers who r always in top LvL whatever w/ cakes or w/o cakes)
Quote from: deathWisher on October 20, 2010, 06:23:32 PM
x5 w/ cakes =/= x15 w/o cakes
WHY ?!
Simple answer, NOT EVRYONE has abilty to change their IP. On x5 those who have that ability coudl easly own those who dosent have it. SO IT WAS UNFAIR, the exp progres wasnt equal.
Example : there was planty o ppl which coudl easly get 15...20+ cakes per day , when others coudl have only ONE cake after 7 DAYS
So x5 w/ cakes = x15 w/o cakes for sure BUT NOT FOR EVERYONE
On x15 w/o cakes is making FAIR and EQUAL chance to exp for EVERYONE (except No-Lifers who r always in top LvL whatever w/ cakes or w/o cakes)
and if you are not nolifer and playing few hours/day you always log with 200% vitaly thats mean you going farm with x30 rates :P + vitaly herbs = x45 rates exp :o
Quote from: Fuka on October 20, 2010, 07:00:27 PM
Quote from: deathWisher on October 20, 2010, 06:23:32 PM
x5 w/ cakes =/= x15 w/o cakes
WHY ?!
Simple answer, NOT EVRYONE has abilty to change their IP. On x5 those who have that ability coudl easly own those who dosent have it. SO IT WAS UNFAIR, the exp progres wasnt equal.
Example : there was planty o ppl which coudl easly get 15...20+ cakes per day , when others coudl have only ONE cake after 7 DAYS
So x5 w/ cakes = x15 w/o cakes for sure BUT NOT FOR EVERYONE
On x15 w/o cakes is making FAIR and EQUAL chance to exp for EVERYONE (except No-Lifers who r always in top LvL whatever w/ cakes or w/o cakes)
and if you are not nolifer and playing few hours/day you always log with 200% vitaly thats mean you going farm with x30 rates :P + vitaly herbs = x45 rates exp :o
200 % I have true, but tell me how many mobs I will kill till that 200 % Vit will go down to 0 ? 40 ? maybe less. U will farm 5 min, and guy with cake will farm 1h.
pr0 argument really
Quote from: deathWisher on October 20, 2010, 06:23:32 PM
x5 w/ cakes =/= x15 w/o cakes
WHY ?!
Simple answer, NOT EVRYONE has abilty to change their IP. On x5 those who have that ability coudl easly own those who dosent have it. SO IT WAS UNFAIR, the exp progres wasnt equal.
Example : there was planty o ppl which coudl easly get 15...20+ cakes per day , when others coudl have only ONE cake after 7 DAYS
So x5 w/ cakes = x15 w/o cakes for sure BUT NOT FOR EVERYONE
On x15 w/o cakes is making FAIR and EQUAL chance to exp for EVERYONE (except No-Lifers who r always in top LvL whatever w/ cakes or w/o cakes)
Since in the begining of *5, you were able to buy cakes with ADENA.
Since on the *5 since the begining poeple made some trade of sc for ADENA.
Since you can buy on *5 cake with sivler coin ( from begining to now ), and like i said you can have silver coin by ADENA.
Since cake buff is zone buff and not personnal buff, you can kill/pvp/pk poeple on cake zone to take the cake by YOURSELF.
ALL, yes ALL players were able to have ALL THE TIME cake on.
SO x5w/cake = x15 w/o cake.
GO back to your cave now !!!
seems people want a server not with over high rates(x15 with cake) neither an old server with 5-6 valakas selling in Aden (new world x5).
thats why x15 without cake is ideal
stop that nonsense topic and live with it
Quote from: Mouarf on October 20, 2010, 07:19:43 PM
Since in the begining of *5, you were able to buy cakes with ADENA.
It lasted for 2 or 3 days? Then it was changed for SC only. Cool thinking brah
Since on the *5 since the begining poeple made some trade of sc for ADENA.
While people that could afford to get cakes directly by donation could invest all their adena into equipping their chars, those that couldn't had to buy cakes to be able to keep up with the xp. But severely drawn back in equip. So again, cool thinking brah
Since you can buy on *5 cake with sivler coin ( from begining to now ), and like i said you can have silver coin by ADENA.
Check above mister
Since cake buff is zone buff and not personnal buff, you can kill/pvp/pk poeple on cake zone to take the cake by YOURSELF.
Agree, this is the only good thing about the cake
ALL, yes ALL players were able to have ALL THE TIME cake on.
If you had the $$$ yes, you could have it non stop. Otherwise, it's just a blatant lie and i'm sure maaaaaaaaaaaany can come and say how hard they had it sometimes, to get cake. Shouting for hours in town for cake seller or having to pay outrages prices for SC (IF you could find any on sale). Again, PRO thinking brah
SO x5w/cake = x15 w/o cake.
Retarded beyond any limits
I will GO back to my cave now !!!
Yes, please! You do that.
Hi
Well spoken, I can add only one thing more.
On others servers there was not such a think like "cake" and ppl still do PvP for example for spot in cata, dual rooms, one big room, etc. , Vampires spot at FOD, in FOG, IT L room or Boss rooms. So cake is giving u a little more reason to make pvp.
But even if we agree that U can "easly" get cake from another PT but how much pvp u will able to win ? 1 for 2 cakes ? then lose 3 cakes couse someone zergs u ? What happend if u r random, is there any chance u will able to wipe out someone from cake spot ? and even If u do (depend what class vs what class) for how long u will able to exp on that cake ? Till the owner will back.
Quote from: Sabor on October 20, 2010, 07:25:58 PM
seems people want a server not with over high rates(x15 with cake) neither an old server with 5-6 valakas selling in Aden (new world x5).
thats why x15 without cake is ideal
stop that nonsense topic and live with it
old server??? Where are vesper +16 wepons? Where are vesper +6 sets? Where are valakas/tezza/anthy +7+8+9?????
Old is ur mom dude... if you wanna farm again and again and again go play farmville!!!
TEH PERFECT SERVER -> ur char start from lvl 85 w/ 3 sub by ur choice (respectivle w/ subskils), w/ vesepr set 60/60/60/60/60 and vesper wepon + SA + 300 and no PVE at all, only pure pvp and all stuffs on GM shops could be bought only w/ pvp points...
Ofc that kind of server is imposible cuz admins can't make players to give them $ :|
Quote from: EG0 on October 20, 2010, 11:50:01 PM
Quote from: Sabor on October 20, 2010, 07:25:58 PM
seems people want a server not with over high rates(x15 with cake) neither an old server with 5-6 valakas selling in Aden (new world x5).
thats why x15 without cake is ideal
stop that nonsense topic and live with it
old server??? Where are vesper +16 wepons? Where are vesper +6 sets? Where are valakas/tezza/anthy +7+8+9?????
Old is ur mom dude... if you wanna farm again and again and again go play farmville!!!
use google there is lot of x46543145646546431 rates servers like you want ;D
TEH PERFECT SERVER -> ur char start from lvl 85 w/ 3 sub by ur choice (respectivle w/ subskils), w/ vesepr set 60/60/60/60/60 and vesper wepon + SA + 300 and no PVE at all, only pure pvp and all stuffs on GM shops could be bought only w/ pvp points...
Ofc that kind of server is imposible cuz admins can't make players to give them $ :|
Quote from: Fuka on October 20, 2010, 11:55:25 PM
Quote from: EG0 on October 20, 2010, 11:50:01 PM
old server??? Where are vesper +16 wepons? Where are vesper +6 sets? Where are valakas/tezza/anthy +7+8+9?????
Old is ur mom dude... if you wanna farm again and again and again go play farmville!!!
use google there is lot of x46543145646546431 rates servers like you want ;D
You are talkin about those x46543145646546431 server where you shuold donate $46543145646546431 to have wepon w/ SA, or those servers where you need to kill 46543145646546431times x46543145646546431 mobs to get x46543145646546431 vote coins and buy 1 ews??? No ty, better go offi and play on x1 it's less farm there :/
I told you mate, they invented farmville for ppl like you.
FARMVILEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
PS: WTT cows for pigs
Quote from: EG0 on October 20, 2010, 11:50:01 PM
Quote from: Sabor on October 20, 2010, 07:25:58 PM
seems people want a server not with over high rates(x15 with cake) neither an old server with 5-6 valakas selling in Aden (new world x5).
thats why x15 without cake is ideal
stop that nonsense topic and live with it
old server??? Where are vesper +16 wepons? Where are vesper +6 sets? Where are valakas/tezza/anthy +7+8+9?????
Old is ur mom dude... if you wanna farm again and again and again go play farmville!!!
TEH PERFECT SERVER -> ur char start from lvl 85 w/ 3 sub by ur choice (respectivle w/ subskils), w/ vesepr set 60/60/60/60/60 and vesper wepon + SA + 300 and no PVE at all, only pure pvp and all stuffs on GM shops could be bought only w/ pvp points...
Ofc that kind of server is imposible cuz admins can't make players to give them $ :|
i think u never plaied lineage 2