USSR - Users Setup Selection Realm - What did u vote?

[MichaelV]

It's simple, 2nd and 3rd option are pretty much the same thing with a small difference. People that want the maximum balance will vote for no cake first month, but want it after a while when the start rush passed. If it would've been the 2 options from start (cake and no cake) all this people that voted for cake after 1 month would've certainly voted for the cake, thus making this option the winner.
Did you understood now?

[McCoy]

i udnerstand that, but still as i said, votes were never like that, and these kind of votes wont be fair(if votes can be fair anyway) at all
anyway, let it be

[paparose]

better merge them now on cake and no cake

[MichaelV]

Ok, good idea. I will suggest them that. And in the eventuality that cake wins, we will hold another vote if you want from start or after some time. Is it good my dear cry babies? : )

[Angelune]

Well I mean the main problem of this pool is that too many questions are related with others :

For example, people may want cakes on a X7 but not on a X15.
People may want SC in GM shop if cakes are available, but not if you can get nobless/sub with them etc etc.

I think you should have took a little bit more time to get first rates/siege time then NPC buffers/Quest items then ask for cakes, then for SC in GMshop.

(And I'm sure that if cakes came out after the start of the server same as SC in GM it won't change anything and you would have a better idea about what players are looking for.)

[neglect]

i voted no cake for 1st month. if this option was removed i would have wanted my vote to just go toward no cake at all...so.

[MichaelV]

@angelune
x15 is the clear winner in my opinion. You can vote for cake or no cake depending on that

@neglect
if cake wins, there will be another poll if you want cake or not from that start. It's pretty much same thing with my initial idea, that i posted at start of thread but in a slighter different execution.  This way, the result is a little more exact.

[venduj]

will there be 'change vote coins for cake' option ? if yes, will vote coins be tradeable ? 

[kaze]

@angelune
x15 is the clear winner in my opinion. You can vote for cake or no cake depending on that

@neglect
if cake wins, there will be another poll if you want cake or not from that start. It's pretty much same thing with my initial idea, that i posted at start of thread but in a slighter different execution.  This way, the result is a little more exact.

merging the two last options now is unfair, since everybody uses their vote chances already.
If you will do that then reset the poll

[belephorn]

i voted no cake for 1st month. if this option was removed i would have wanted my vote to just go toward no cake at all...so.

puting "yes cakes" and "cakes after 1 month" together is wrong, couse ppl that voted "after one month" could put their vote for "no cakes", if they wouldnt have the 1 month option at the first place. thats the way i see it. neglect is an example. and i dont realy see a point to make a second poll for "cakes from start" or "after one month", couse every1 that voted no cakes r most likely gonna vote for cakes as late as possible.

theres a bit of a mess and i normaly wouldnt complain at all, jsut that the voting results r realy close together, like 48% / 52%. wich means that ppl like neglect could turn the poll into "no cake" favor if they wouldnt have a choise "cake after 1 month" form the start.

[Angelune]

@angelune
x15 is the clear winner in my opinion. You can vote for cake or no cake depending on that

I agree that X15 is now the winner. But a lot of players voted without knowing that. Hence I think that making a new pool about cakes would be better now. So we are sure all "Yes cakes" are "Yes cakes for X15" and same goes for "No Cakes".

And to be honnest I think there is still plenty of time to remake this poll so none gonna get frustrated about a "wrong vote".

[naz]

Cake or No Cake – that is the question

[baho]

Best option would be to just remove the cake question now, until the rates vote is over. Then, start vote for cake and depending on what rates will win, people will know exactly if cake is needed or not.

Now stop QQing fegs

[Maleax]

Best option would be to just remove the cake question now, until the rates vote is over. Then, start vote for cake and depending on what rates will win, people will know exactly if cake is needed or not.

Now stop QQing fegs

Guess whos gonna win.

7x 26%
10x 18%
15x 56%

4500 votes

[1736]

There won't be the cakes. Take it like a man.

[qqqq]

There won't be the cakes. Take it like a man.

If people, who votted "no cake" will send each month to server atleast 20 dolars, so we have sure future , than i don't have problem with server w/o cake.

[baho]

I have to agree with qqqq. I don't think that income from simple items in GM shop and features such as change name/clan name/etc. will be enough to pay the bandwidth for a server with 5k concurrent players daily.
I think cake is inevitable... i think.

Anyway, this server is supposed to replace the long gone and forgotten 30x (90x) and it won't be a crime if this server is a 45x after the votes. And considering RPG network doesn't and never had a true low rate server (international) i'm sure this is the next server that will come (when ever it will happen, probably next year in autumn/winter). This will be for all this 16h/day l2 ppl, their dream becoming a reality.

[McCoy]

MV said in another topic that there are no problems with money, they have another source for that

[baho]

quote please, never seen that

[McCoy]

I never said there won't be cakes. I said "wait for the vote". Depending on the options of the vote and, of course, your votes, there will or there won't be some kind of items.

To my knowledge, the options will be the official gracia final shop (the one on ru retail) with different options. What those options are, you will see when the vote is up.  (don't take this as official info, i'm really not sure what the options will be)


Oh, and one more thing. Don't worry for the bills, there are other people to take care of the worrying about this : )

[baho]

And you concluded from that, that he said they have another source of income? All he said was that us, the players, shouldn't think about those things. Those are admins problems. And i suppose that if they couldn't take care of the server, they wouldn't have added the "no cake" option in the first place.

[fenris]

they have russian maffia sponsoring them

[Malicious]

worst idea ever is to merge votes. You already did pool, so keep it like it is. I know admins still wants include cakes, so add i after 2 months (from new years), and everyone will be happy. I dont know there will be someone who disagreas from thoose ppls who dont wanted cakes at all.

[SplichO]

we all know there will be cakes

Are you insinuating something?

Nope, just having a personal opinion which is much more realistic then people who are dreaming about server without cakes. I anyway said i will play with or without cakes so as for me i just wanna know it for 100% no cakes np, yes cakes np, just to be 100% sure how is gonna be and then i will adapt to w/e situation with cakes will be. What i am afraid of is prices change on Cakes or some other drastic "solution" that happened on x5, since i was in that group of ppl that lost $$$ cose donation took 3 days to get to me so i had half of what i payed for at start cose Cake price was changed without any previous announce. I am sure you remember this situation also so i don't see a reason why would i insinuate anything i am just worried and a bit "rushing" to see what will final set up be.

[Pel8]

who cares if u lost 5 cakes ><