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Question: Possible solutions for EN [x30]
Option 1: 1.5 month rollback, compensating IG all donations made after 10 April 2010 votes: 115
Option 2: Сlose EN [x30] server, moving all chars to Infinity [x8], and open new ~x15 x5-like server in September 2010 votes: 332
Title: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alice on May 19, 2010, 10:33:50 PM
Dear players!

As a result of force majeure circumstances EN [x30] game database was lost.
Last backup we have is of 10 April 2010 (almost 1.5 month old).
There are two possible solutions to this awfully unpleasant situation:

1) We make 1.5 month rollback, compensating IG all donations made after 10 April 2010.

2) We close EN [x30] server, moving all chars to Infinity [x8], and open new ~x15 x5-like server in September 2010

It's up to you to choose the lesser of two evils (

Please accept our apologies.

P.S. For other PRG-club players' information: database backups on other RPG-club servers are made every day.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: smishie on May 19, 2010, 10:39:07 PM
i guess it s the end... who will play again with a 1.5 month roll back? i wont that s for sure..

was fun while it last. now i can go study for my exams :)

Cya all and gf to all my ennemies.

Galax hero soul hound wannabe :'(
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:40:03 PM
Why to wait until September to open a new fresh server? Close it and open one fresh server asap.


And tbh, x8 was the biggest fail ever. Don't think anyone is going to play to this full of donations server.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Bulle on May 19, 2010, 10:41:19 PM
No coment....
1.5 month of work for nothing ? Compensating IG all donations made, yes and what about real stuff ????
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: losada on May 19, 2010, 10:42:18 PM
No way, close this server and open a new x15 server as fast as possible, it´s close to summer and i´m sure that a lot of ppl would join a new server
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:43:18 PM
Quote from: losada on May 19, 2010, 10:42:18 PM
No way, close this server and open a new x15 server as fast as possible, it´s close to summer and i´m sure that a lot of ppl would join a new server
+1
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Bulle on May 19, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
Isn't just a fake thing for finaly close this server ? How you can lose database ? lol..
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alice on May 19, 2010, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:40:03 PM
Why to wait until September to open a new fresh server? Close it and open one fresh server asap.
The most important lesson we drew from our failures - haste makes waste.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Sardy on May 19, 2010, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: Bulle on May 19, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
Isn't just a fake thing for finaly close this server ? How you can lose database ? lol..

this.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:45:26 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:40:03 PM
Why to wait until September to open a new fresh server? Close it and open one fresh server asap.
The most important lesson we drew from our failures - haste makes waste.

ya, and loosing the whole summer is great!
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Ecthe on May 19, 2010, 10:46:52 PM
some worm ate it!111 sitfak
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Blabblo on May 19, 2010, 10:47:35 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:40:03 PM
Why to wait until September to open a new fresh server? Close it and open one fresh server asap.
The most important lesson we drew from our failures - haste makes waste.
What about all the effort ppl put on in the last month and half? Screwed up totally?
There was few new clans also that started and now they wont even have the chars. It means you can already close the server and open a new one, NOW, with a decent rate and with something that will make ppl less pissed off.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: Bulle on May 19, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
Isn't just a fake thing for finaly close this server ? How you can lose database ? lol..

That's it, you can ofc lose 1-2 days of database, but how the fak you can lose 1,5 moths of EVERY DAY saved database? GF, it's just fake talking about nothing, you wanna close that server, no less, no more... WTB more donations, gg
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: YeasZ on May 19, 2010, 10:48:28 PM
EPIC, go to a x15, infinity for the failers
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: Blabblo on May 19, 2010, 10:47:35 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:40:03 PM
Why to wait until September to open a new fresh server? Close it and open one fresh server asap.
The most important lesson we drew from our failures - haste makes waste.
What about all the effort ppl put on in the last month and half? Screwed up totally?
There was few new clans also that started and now they wont even have the chars. It means you can already close the server and open a new one, NOW, with a decent rate and with something that will make ppl less pissed off.

Actually, my char who was already full S grade + subed, doesn't even exist.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: Blabblo on May 19, 2010, 10:47:35 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:40:03 PM
Why to wait until September to open a new fresh server? Close it and open one fresh server asap.
The most important lesson we drew from our failures - haste makes waste.
What about all the effort ppl put on in the last month and half? Screwed up totally?
There was few new clans also that started and now they wont even have the chars. It means you can already close the server and open a new one, NOW, with a decent rate and with something that will make ppl less pissed off.

Actually, my char who was already full S grade + subed, doesn't even exist.

Sorry, but that sentesne made me laught :D gg +1
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Sardy on May 19, 2010, 10:51:52 PM
Quote from: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: Bulle on May 19, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
Isn't just a fake thing for finaly close this server ? How you can lose database ? lol..

That's it, you can ofc lose 1-2 days of database, but how the fak you can lose 1,5 moths of EVERY DAY saved database? GF, it's just fake talking about nothing, you wanna close that server, no less, no more... WTB more donations, gg

quality guarantee.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:53:02 PM
Quote from: Sardy on May 19, 2010, 10:51:52 PM
Quote from: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: Bulle on May 19, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
Isn't just a fake thing for finaly close this server ? How you can lose database ? lol..

That's it, you can ofc lose 1-2 days of database, but how the fak you can lose 1,5 moths of EVERY DAY saved database? GF, it's just fake talking about nothing, you wanna close that server, no less, no more... WTB more donations, gg

quality guarantee.
indeed
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: YeasZ on May 19, 2010, 10:53:45 PM
Work done, have your fun.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Mielkor on May 19, 2010, 10:55:37 PM
Wipe n' x15 now !
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Corebit on May 19, 2010, 10:55:51 PM
but anyway chars will be moved as they was on 10th april? :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: ptsd on May 19, 2010, 10:56:59 PM
Nice anyway my gear was stollen so i dont care :p

make new server with same donations as now on x30 but rates 10x :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: istvo on May 19, 2010, 10:59:07 PM
Quote from: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 10:48:18 PM
That's it, you can ofc lose 1-2 days of database, but how the fak you can lose 1,5 moths of EVERY DAY saved database? GF, it's just fake talking about nothing, you wanna close that server, no less, no more... WTB more donations, gg

+1
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 19, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
curious how it all seemed to work just fine before the downtime, like they couldn't make the backup before taking it down for maintenance.

I'm just wondering what has exaclty happened because such explanations are not sufficient for people who spend much time in those last few weeks and lost everything one day.

As someone already pointed out there were a few fresh clans who started in this time and their chars won't even exist now - I am one of those peope.

I would suggest to wipe and start over the same setup but with x15 ASAP - tommorow or today even, why wait ?
Maybe you can get some people to stay this way and some new to come, otherwise it's just a waste of anyone's time, because such thing very rarely happens on any server and it doesn't convince anyone to join one.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Ari on May 19, 2010, 11:01:48 PM
I can say only 1 think GF admin you are realy pro
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Bulle on May 19, 2010, 11:04:37 PM
At least transfer char on x8 like they are now and stop say that you lost 1.5 months of database.
And then close x30 and make x15 server.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: sans on May 19, 2010, 11:06:03 PM
Сlose EN [x30] server, moving all chars to Infinity [x8] +4-5k sc SC, and open new ~x15 x5-like server in September 2010
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: spyonyou on May 19, 2010, 11:06:57 PM
wipe and x15 already, september is way too far :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Armadillo on May 19, 2010, 11:07:38 PM
gj
epic fail.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: vvlm on May 19, 2010, 11:10:26 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 10:33:50 PM
P.S. For other PRG-club players' information: database backups on other RPG-club servers are made every day.
lmao. Where are the backups of the x30 then ?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: amokk on May 19, 2010, 11:12:59 PM
They see that less and less players buy SC on 5x to trade for items on 30x. Why not close it then?! Ppl lost alot of irl money lol.
Gj mens.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alice on May 19, 2010, 11:13:31 PM
Quote from: Lyso on May 19, 2010, 11:10:26 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 10:33:50 PM
P.S. For other PRG-club players' information: database backups on other RPG-club servers are made every day.
lmao. Where are the backups of the x30 then ?
...database backups on OTHER RPG-club servers are made every day
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 11:13:31 PM
Quote from: Lyso on May 19, 2010, 11:10:26 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 10:33:50 PM
P.S. For other PRG-club players' information: database backups on other RPG-club servers are made every day.
lmao. Where are the backups of the x30 then ?
...database backups on OTHER RPG-club servers are made every day

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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: vvlm on May 19, 2010, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 11:13:31 PM
Quote from: Lyso on May 19, 2010, 11:10:26 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 10:33:50 PM
P.S. For other PRG-club players' information: database backups on other RPG-club servers are made every day.
lmao. Where are the backups of the x30 then ?
...database backups on OTHER RPG-club servers are made every day
coz x30 didn't need those backup ?

Saying that u wanted to close this dead server is THAT hard ?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: ptsd on May 19, 2010, 11:17:49 PM
Quote from: spyonyou on May 19, 2010, 11:06:57 PM
wipe and x15 already, september is way too far :D

+1 :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alice on May 19, 2010, 11:20:23 PM
Quote from: Lyso on May 19, 2010, 11:16:24 PM
Saying that u wanted to close this dead server is THAT hard ?
Not THAT hard, but it would be a lie :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: socket on May 19, 2010, 11:20:51 PM
gz all.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 19, 2010, 11:22:56 PM
how funny is the coincidence that the server moved to germany 9th april and the newest database is from 10th april, have you had some problems with the western friends ?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: jankee on May 19, 2010, 11:24:45 PM
new x15 as fast as possible...for those who donated equip for $$$...your fail its not allowed on rpg :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 11:25:41 PM
QuoteСlose EN [x30] server, moving all chars to Infinity [x8], and open new ~x15 x5-like server in September 2010

that means moving chars as they were on 10th April or as they are just before the last downtime?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: KONRA on May 19, 2010, 11:28:12 PM
For people who dont understand it:

Dear players of x30:

We are going to close the x30 server, so we will open a new one, have fun.
thanks.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: vvlm on May 19, 2010, 11:28:51 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 11:20:23 PM
Quote from: Lyso on May 19, 2010, 11:16:24 PM
Saying that u wanted to close this dead server is THAT hard ?
Not THAT hard, but it would be a lie :)
You're pathetic. How can you say that u leaved a server without backup for a month and explain that you are making these every day on your other servers in the same post. :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 11:30:03 PM
Quote from: Lyso on May 19, 2010, 11:28:51 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 11:20:23 PM
Quote from: Lyso on May 19, 2010, 11:16:24 PM
Saying that u wanted to close this dead server is THAT hard ?
Not THAT hard, but it would be a lie :)
You're pathetic. How can you say that u leaved a server without backup for a month and explain that you are making these every day on your other servers in the same post. :)

(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi150.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs85%2FStebthefirst%2FTripleFacePalm.jpg&hash=5d490953c2cd5d853e512f435eee02e4cf6ac68e)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: kasperbbs on May 19, 2010, 11:31:10 PM
fuck you and goodbye.
Title: Re: EN x30 futuro] [- IMPORTANTE
Post by: Amdsurion on May 19, 2010, 11:32:30 PM
my question is.... 1'5 months.... i don't have my vesper dagguer +3 critikal damage 300 element whit my augment 26 critikal rate + chance critikal rate...... i have screen, is posible to replace my dagguer?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Marlah on May 19, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
gf guys.
Time on this server was be wonderful.
mby we will meet on x5,mby on x15. Dont forget me. : )

best regards,keren.<3

Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: spyonyou on May 19, 2010, 11:34:09 PM
Quote from: Alice on May 19, 2010, 11:20:23 PM
Quote from: Lyso on May 19, 2010, 11:16:24 PM
Saying that u wanted to close this dead server is THAT hard ?
Not THAT hard, but it would be a lie :)

I think the main problem of your second choice, even if i voted for it is that you will open a new server anyway.
So it's like asking people if they are willing to play on a server that will die in september, maybe just wipe and open one this week end most people will have their exams done :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 11:34:34 PM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Kebulik on May 19, 2010, 11:35:47 PM
Quality garante!
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: ptsd on May 19, 2010, 11:36:03 PM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: KONRA on May 19, 2010, 11:36:16 PM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 11:38:49 PM
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My last GG fakers
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: ptsd on May 19, 2010, 11:40:00 PM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Babe on May 19, 2010, 11:40:17 PM
pathetic
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Atray on May 19, 2010, 11:40:31 PM
what to say, i dont really see a point in moving chars to x8. once the x15 starts the x8 might die. furthermore, players that are on x8 right now wont be very pleased about x30 players being moved there, quite overpowered and unbalanced imo :o
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Ecthe on May 19, 2010, 11:41:04 PM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: esna on May 19, 2010, 11:41:54 PM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: Atray on May 19, 2010, 11:40:31 PM
what to say, i dont really see a point in moving chars to x8. once the x15 starts the x8 might die. furthermore, players that are on x8 right now wont be very pleased about x30 players being moved there, quite overpowered and unbalanced imo :o

but are you sure that there are players on x8?  Awesome 315 popullation on peak hour!
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 11:42:48 PM
Quote from: esna on May 19, 2010, 11:41:54 PM
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+1, that was fucking funny!
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Atray on May 19, 2010, 11:43:16 PM
if there is or not, those few still wont be very happy about it. i honestly never played on x8, so i dont know
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: esna on May 19, 2010, 11:45:09 PM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 11:45:35 PM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Sardy on May 19, 2010, 11:50:14 PM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Ecthe on May 19, 2010, 11:52:08 PM
ok im going to play Red alert, for Allies ofc
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 11:56:31 PM
Quote from: Ecthe on May 19, 2010, 11:52:08 PM
ok im going to play Red alert, for Allies ofc

Yuris FTW
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: sans on May 20, 2010, 12:01:31 AM
MOVE ALL CHARS ON X5 OR DIE
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: istvo on May 20, 2010, 12:03:26 AM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Expl0iT on May 20, 2010, 12:08:43 AM
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Resistance on May 20, 2010, 12:09:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjLgekyOZA0
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: esna on May 20, 2010, 12:09:31 AM
facepalmmania :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: gas on May 20, 2010, 12:14:25 AM
What will be next? You will wipe x5 if you wont get enough euros from it? This is fakin nonsense. You dont care about players you care only for money !  Didnt you forget that x30 brings you here nonrussian community you suck... russian bastards .i..
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: istvo on May 20, 2010, 12:15:21 AM
Quote from: Resistance on May 20, 2010, 12:09:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjLgekyOZA0

+1
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Marlah on May 20, 2010, 12:16:17 AM
Quote from: gas on May 20, 2010, 12:14:25 AM
What will be next? You will wipe x5 if you wont get enough euros from it? This is fakin nonsense. You dont care about players you care only for money !  Didnt you forget that x30 brings you here nonrussian community you suck... russian bastards .i..

:( :(
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: kykyryzka on May 20, 2010, 12:20:42 AM
admins - losers :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: FreePassion on May 20, 2010, 12:30:52 AM
if there will be a transfer on x8 from there donatory will go away even   ;D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: gas on May 20, 2010, 12:32:00 AM
And what s the point of this poll? Move EN player whose choose X30 rates to X8 rates with russian community? And let anyone who is registred on this forum to decide of the future of x30 even if he doesnt play here? WTF? If you wanna wipe X30 just say it ok guys sorry but we decide to wipe it... people aren t stupid .
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: lordzeus on May 20, 2010, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: KONRA on May 19, 2010, 11:28:12 PM
For people who dont understand it:

Dear players of x30:

We are going to close the x30 server, so we will open a new one, have fun.
thanks.
Quote from: SaMaNoSuKe on May 19, 2010, 10:53:02 PM
Quote from: Sardy on May 19, 2010, 10:51:52 PM
Quote from: Expl0iT on May 19, 2010, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: Bulle on May 19, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
Isn't just a fake thing for finaly close this server ? How you can lose database ? lol..

That's it, you can ofc lose 1-2 days of database, but how the fak you can lose 1,5 moths of EVERY DAY saved database? GF, it's just fake talking about nothing, you wanna close that server, no less, no more... WTB more donations, gg

quality guarantee.
indeed

I would like to know how you can make backups everyday in the others servers and NOT doing a backup in  only  ONE server. Its like choose between poison and a gun; but i would like to play something like 20x-30x. So sorry for the people that loose money buying things and chars(but anyways is  agains the rules =) ).
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: CalamityJack on May 20, 2010, 12:42:00 AM
MOVE OUR CHARS TO X5 THEN PLZ

I think we all demand that rather than x8 moving, which wasn't a good idea to start. All those votes, donates. srsly dai deneg back or move to x5.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: ptsd on May 20, 2010, 12:43:58 AM
Im just smiling to guys who bought chars and gear for real money...

Seller got money buyer got nothing GF :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: ligalaizit on May 20, 2010, 12:47:58 AM
you are all experienced players.. you know this can happen in a private server. Deal with it

Moving chars to a x8 is not fair for the x8 players...

Why is opening another x30 server not an option? After all, x30 was the 2nd most populated server after the x5
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: MichaelV on May 20, 2010, 12:48:42 AM
Hey guys, just noticed this ... sad situation  :-[. Only info i can give u is, why the lack of backups.
The backups are missing since x30 was moved to germany. Seems that admin didn't setup the backup process correct. He admits it's his big fault and he's really sorry for it.

Can't tell you anything more. If u want, i can talk to them to open x30 with the old db, but i can't guarantee anything.

Sorry guys. (i also had a char here and although i didn't played it in some time i'm also sad about this)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 12:49:01 AM
apparently that was no mistake/accident but a conscious decision


edit:

ok assuming I buy this story, why tell me why the DB has been messed up ? why it doesn't work now ?

Maybe I'm weird but always before i do something big on some big pile of data i make a backup of it or at least check when the last one was created.

This situation will probably be spread among the L2 community around the world prooving that this server is not a best choice if you want a stable and good managed server thus leading into far less population with new coming players.

Quality Guaranteed
GL & HF
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: CalamityJack on May 20, 2010, 12:50:41 AM
Quote from: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 12:49:01 AM
apparently that was no mistake/accident but a conscious decision

Are you suggesting conspiracy? No way.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: lordzeus on May 20, 2010, 12:54:46 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on May 20, 2010, 12:48:42 AM

The backups are missing since x30 was moved to germany. Seems that admin didn't setup the backup process correct. He admits it's his big fault and he's really sorry for it.

Sorry guys. (i also had a char here and although i didn't played it in some time i'm also sad about this)

is like found your girlfriend whit someoneelse  and she said "it not what it seems" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
move our chars to x5 o no balss ijijijijajajjajajajjaja
/ontopic
begin a a new 30x could be better than a 15x
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: MichaelV on May 20, 2010, 12:57:48 AM
I'm just telling u what i've been told. I have no personal thoughts to share on this situation.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: spyonyou on May 20, 2010, 01:00:26 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on May 20, 2010, 12:48:42 AM
Hey guys, just noticed this ... sad situation  :-[. Only info i can give u is, why the lack of backups.
The backups are missing since x30 was moved to germany. Seems that admin didn't setup the backup process correct. He admits it's his big fault and he's really sorry for it.

Can't tell you anything more. If u want, i can talk to them to open x30 with the old db, but i can't guarantee anything.

Sorry guys. (i also had a char here and although i didn't played it in some time i'm also sad about this)

Well i think more people would like a proper wipe and a new server to start playing on that would at least stay for a few months, if you just transfer players and make another one in a few months it would just mean that the server you transfered the char too will die in a few months :o
It's a bit like telling them to play there while waiting for the new one which will probably not motivate anyone to play and see the population going down :o
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: blackeagle on May 20, 2010, 01:00:36 AM
posting in epic thread,
archive please
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: gas on May 20, 2010, 01:07:18 AM
Quote from: lordzeus on May 20, 2010, 12:54:46 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on May 20, 2010, 12:48:42 AM

The backups are missing since x30 was moved to germany. Seems that admin didn't setup the backup process correct. He admits it's his big fault and he's really sorry for it.

Sorry guys. (i also had a char here and although i didn't played it in some time i'm also sad about this)

is like found your girlfriend whit someoneelse  and she said "it not what it seems" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
move our chars to x5 o no balss ijijijijajajjajajajjaja
/ontopic
begin a a new 30x could be better than a 15x
begin a new server is exactly what they want... cos with new serbar they earn more money for vodka, x30 isnt at this point moneymaker for them, so this is future for all servers here... communist became a capitalist.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 01:07:29 AM
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fholycrapthatsfunny.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F10%2Flegendary-thread.jpg&hash=3527c536d13a71e13f9c1b11f6bcb37988ec53d1)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: CalamityJack on May 20, 2010, 01:09:37 AM
rick astley please
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 01:11:45 AM
you've just been
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
by Russia with love :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Ecthe on May 20, 2010, 01:14:47 AM
Share your files with other servers, this will be better way to the future, than start new server with your team. 
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 01:16:48 AM
Quote from: Ecthe on May 20, 2010, 01:14:47 AM
Share your files with other servers, this will be better way to the future, than start new server with your team. 
+1 :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Bulle on May 20, 2010, 01:25:18 AM
Quote from: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 01:16:48 AM
Quote from: Ecthe on May 20, 2010, 01:14:47 AM
Share your files with other servers, this will be better way to the future, than start new server with your team. 
+1 :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: zladik on May 20, 2010, 01:25:29 AM
Quote from: sans on May 20, 2010, 12:01:31 AM
MOVE ALL CHARS ON X5 OR DIE

This! +1 :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: CalamityJack on May 20, 2010, 01:30:51 AM
 Reply #100

punch yourself
and sharing files would be a worse idea ever. imagine xxxxxxxxx servers with 300 players max. GL!

wipe x30 eot
Title: Re: EN x30 futuro] [- IMPORTANTE
Post by: Myoo on May 20, 2010, 01:31:50 AM
[Autor Cotización = Enlace zladik = topic = 4728.msg55186 # msg55186 date = 1274304329] citar al autor [link = sans = topic = # msg55123 4728.msg55123 date = 1274299291] [size = 20pt] MOVE ON CHARS TODOS X5 OR DIE [/ b] [/ size] [/ quote] Esto! 1: D [/ quote]
+1
Title: Re: EN x30 futuro] [- IMPORTANTE
Post by: RoSicH on May 20, 2010, 01:33:19 AM
Quote from: gas on May 20, 2010, 01:07:18 AM
begin a new server is exactly what they want... cos with new serbar they earn more money for vodka, x30 isnt at this point moneymaker for them, so this is future for all servers here... communist became a capitalist.

+1000
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: kaze on May 20, 2010, 01:43:03 AM
Dont wipe, old players may come back.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SaMaNoSuKe on May 20, 2010, 02:19:20 AM
Quote from: kaze on May 20, 2010, 01:43:03 AM
Dont wipe, old players may come back.

won't. I'm sure the input will be nothing compared the output.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: VasekK on May 20, 2010, 02:30:03 AM
могли-бы и письмом известить о закрытии х30, да в конце концов создать темку в русской ветке. В принципе я даже доволен этим событием, очень состыковалось с личной жизнью)  
В принципе вайп это всегда плохо, но если это необходимо, то можно и перенести персов, только без откатов, - это всё равно что их удалить. Лично я очень многого достиг именно за последнии месяцы, с откатом играть у вас больше не буду

пысы Кто захочет - сам переведёт, мне в принципе пофиг
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: vkdjzr on May 20, 2010, 02:46:56 AM
international langage here you are
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: lordzeus on May 20, 2010, 03:01:02 AM
Quote from: Sabac on May 20, 2010, 02:46:56 AM
international langage here you are
mas uno ajjajajajajajajajajajajajjaja ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Lokocz on May 20, 2010, 03:03:58 AM
so sad :(
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: DigitalZ on May 20, 2010, 03:07:59 AM
The decision to remain on х30 was the biggest mistake when х5 opened.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: oXo on May 20, 2010, 03:21:35 AM
the problem is that the 8x is a dead server (imho..atm: [x1]: 792   [x5]: 2352   [x8]: 102   [x1000]: 338 ) cause we choose not to go there. rates and/or some kind of reason suggested us not to go there and choose something else...i don't think that server would become "our dream" just cause u'd move chars there :S
do u want to delete 30x now to create a 15x?  imho u risk to loose the ppl that choose that kind of set.
btw...that server was the only one created as international server....maybe it should have been your 1st thought during the last 1.5 months >.<
i'd choose to flag: set-up the old database with a bonus not only for ppl who donated but also to ppl in a certain range of lvl or something similar...something worth to stay even w/o 1.5 months of game.   OR   set up NOW a 15x (i think it would change only a couple of numbers in a file cause everything works fine as game_files) with a bonus for players moving from 30x (still..not only doners)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Ciaran on May 20, 2010, 03:23:16 AM
Neither option is appealing to me, as I do not intend to keep playing on any section of a private server where such a HUGE problem can go unnoticed for a month and a half - assuming that is what happened anyways.

It's been fun, всем пока. :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Bulle on May 20, 2010, 03:29:38 AM
EN [x30] Community Forums (English)
Vassekk pro
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Furesy on May 20, 2010, 03:39:24 AM
Quote from: DigitalZ on May 20, 2010, 03:07:59 AM
The decision to remain on х30 was the biggest mistake when х5 opened.
could't agree more
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Corebit on May 20, 2010, 04:17:55 AM
take off the s80-84 from x8 gm shop and move chars there...
But think admins just want to make more money on x8 crazy donations, so will transfer all x30 chars there lol :D
gz rpg-club - most ever failed international server...
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: nab on May 20, 2010, 04:31:52 AM
obviously fake just to close the server early. I vote for recall donations. Open a new proper high rate, 100x PVPx style  and you have a winner. not that you listen to advice
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: ligalaizit on May 20, 2010, 05:18:06 AM
Quote from: DigitalZ on May 20, 2010, 03:07:59 AM
The decision to remain on х30 was the biggest mistake when х5 opened.

x30 and x5 are both the same server, RPG-CLUB RUSSIA
think about that.
not a nice thought, right?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: soprano on May 20, 2010, 05:30:53 AM
Quote from: gas on May 20, 2010, 01:07:18 AM
... communist became a capitalist.
so they finally did it (https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.pbase.com%2Fo2%2F99%2F105499%2F1%2F52394207.USAFlagSmall.jpg&hash=b9c8dfcc6a6708b37a77dc2db6353a30340ba6f6)  ;D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Mahavei on May 20, 2010, 05:45:03 AM
move x30 to x5 .
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: kornes on May 20, 2010, 06:04:18 AM
Quote from: Mahavei on May 20, 2010, 05:45:03 AM
move x30 to x5 .
dream more ^^

lets say Hello to ever1 who put many $$$ in his itenz lold
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: YeasZ on May 20, 2010, 06:34:54 AM

Quote from: VasekK on May 20, 2010, 02:30:03 AM
могли-бы и письмом известить о закрытии х30, да в конце концов создать темку в русской ветке. В принципе я даже доволен этим событием, очень состыковалось с личной жизнью)  
В принципе вайп это всегда плохо, но если это необходимо, то можно и перенести персов, только без откатов, - это всё равно что их удалить. Лично я очень многого достиг именно за последнии месяцы, с откатом играть у вас больше не буду

пысы Кто захочет - сам переведёт, мне в принципе пофиг
mais quel fils de lul
c'est les russes qu'hitler aurait du degommer, il s'est gourer de way



WRONGWAY
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: nkRwz on May 20, 2010, 07:34:24 AM
just hahha
hope to see you guys on some other server.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Skar on May 20, 2010, 08:20:08 AM
omg.... looks like something happened with Germain server, that is why so big roll back time...
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Berde on May 20, 2010, 08:41:39 AM
byebye rpg

any other server around?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: nkRwz on May 20, 2010, 08:50:33 AM
how about:
wipe x30, and let ppl bot for 2 weeks. nice server commercial imo :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Skar on May 20, 2010, 08:54:29 AM
I made a topic, when i sugges administration to transfer database to x5 server but without equipment.

if some1 thinking that it would be better 4 us, just write "+1 к автору" in this russian part of forum:

https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php?topic=4738.msg55244#msg55244

i write there cuz admins r russian, and it more easy to them read in russian then read this topic.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: nkRwz on May 20, 2010, 09:00:20 AM
what are you going to do with 85 chars w/o equip?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Skar on May 20, 2010, 09:03:06 AM
Quote from: nkRwz on May 20, 2010, 09:00:20 AM
what are you going to do with 85 chars w/o equip?

i would try to find equip. But it would be easy 4 me to find equip at least with charchacters on the server without donate, than drop everything and start new char on the new server.

start to spoil and trying to get money to get equip. dunno a lot of choices.

But ask urself, what to do with characters on x8 server where ur current equip is zero and nothing?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 20, 2010, 09:14:02 AM
Best solution (for who ever still played 30x) is to start 30x with that 1,5 month old database, and boost the rates to 60x xp/sp (drop/spoil should be boosted a little also) for the next 2-3 weeks. And of course, return the donated SC to players. This way, it's easier to recover what players lost, even new chars, on a 60x with vitality u should have it remade in no time.

About new ~15x? No sooner then autumn imo. If u open it now or in the near future, u will just kill both 5x and ~15x by splitting the community between the 2.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: dexterr on May 20, 2010, 09:18:06 AM
R.I.P RPG  ;D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Guardian on May 20, 2010, 10:03:01 AM
Admins heading wrong way sad i thought it will be respectable administration with no wipe policy. Even six year old kid wouldn't believe that story about database it's total bullshit you make server database backup every day and somehow all gone left only made before 1.5 month c'mon how dumb you have to be to believe in that :D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Adeptek on May 20, 2010, 10:16:04 AM
*
2) We close EN [x30] server, moving all chars to Infinity [x8], and open new ~x15 x5-like server in JUNI 2010

Confirm?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Rumbo on May 20, 2010, 10:54:34 AM
wipe ftw..
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: CommunismFTW on May 20, 2010, 11:08:39 AM
Sh1t like this happens. I agree that the excuse sounds somewhat fishy but everything is possible. And 30x was going down in numbers anyway. Feel bad for those that still played here but maybe this is for the best ... maybe
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Ecthe on May 20, 2010, 12:01:33 PM
Try rollback now and u will see... Playing on x8 is impossible for many ppl coz there is hard donate. Nobody will not pay u now for that what became. Promise greater interest for rollbacked x30 and backups every day. Maybe this will work.
Start new server u can always.

I prefer 1,5 month loss than loss everything.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: ssj on May 20, 2010, 12:14:31 PM
so we can see how admins cared about 30x :) compared to 5x
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: omglolufauil on May 20, 2010, 12:21:56 PM
Where is 3rd option:


3) KK THX BB?

I just joined RPG, I was happy of nice midrate without GLOWING HANDS everywhere and overbuff NPC etc. and i must leave now. Why the best servers must gone?


Is there any other crowded and non overpowered mid rate around?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Lokocz on May 20, 2010, 12:47:43 PM
Quote from: baho on May 20, 2010, 09:14:02 AM
Best solution (for who ever still played 30x) is to start 30x with that 1,5 month old database, and boost the rates to 60x xp/sp (drop/spoil should be boosted a little also) for the next 2-3 weeks. And of course, return the donated SC to players. This way, it's easier to recover what players lost, even new chars, on a 60x with vitality u should have it remade in no time.

About new ~15x? No sooner then autumn imo. If u open it now or in the near future, u will just kill both 5x and ~15x by splitting the community between the 2.

i think this would be the best solution
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: MateuszDraco on May 20, 2010, 12:48:35 PM
That way or another - 2 days ago RPG had high rate non-PVP server. Now we have only low rate servers and that is really , really bad. I and my several friends decided to move from RPG, we dont want to play on that low rates. 2 days ago any player could decide where to play, you had 2 rpg servers (low and higher) and 2 pvp servers (low and high). Now you just kick x30 gives nothing in return.

I have one request: make x15~x30 server ASAP. Roll-backed or wiped - I don't care. We just want to play on RPG nicely - now, not in September!
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: kaze on May 20, 2010, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: Ecthe on May 20, 2010, 12:01:33 PM

I prefer 1,5 month loss than loss everything.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: spyonyou on May 20, 2010, 01:16:56 PM
Quote from: Lokocz on May 20, 2010, 12:47:43 PM
Quote from: baho on May 20, 2010, 09:14:02 AM
Best solution (for who ever still played 30x) is to start 30x with that 1,5 month old database, and boost the rates to 60x xp/sp (drop/spoil should be boosted a little also) for the next 2-3 weeks. And of course, return the donated SC to players. This way, it's easier to recover what players lost, even new chars, on a 60x with vitality u should have it remade in no time.

About new ~15x? No sooner then autumn imo. If u open it now or in the near future, u will just kill both 5x and ~15x by splitting the community between the 2.

i think this would be the best solution

This is the worst solution, most people wont play again on that server because everyone knows that a new server will be open soon anyway. So it will just end up dying, i'm sure most people who played on the x30 and stayed until now won't come back to play there if it reopen with the rollback because everyone knows that a new server will be open soon anyway.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Mouarf on May 20, 2010, 01:18:22 PM
Quote from: MateuszDraco on May 20, 2010, 12:48:35 PM
I have one request: make x15~x30 server ASAP. Roll-backed or wiped - I don't care. We just want to play on RPG nicely - now, not in September!

They wont.
If they open new server now they will kill *5.

Even on September.
I think they have to open it later... Like in december  :o
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: spyonyou on May 20, 2010, 01:39:27 PM
Quote from: Mouarf on May 20, 2010, 01:18:22 PM
If they open new server now they will kill *5.
Even on September.
I think they have to open it later... Like in december  :o

Well i doubt the x5 will completely die, it will lose people but the x5 being a low rate most people playing there will stay, and there are still people who would join because of it being a low rate.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 20, 2010, 01:53:28 PM
ofc x5 won't die. But it will surely lose quite a few players.It will surely split the community in half.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 01:57:32 PM
and how is that relevant as long as the $$$$ keep coming ?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: spyonyou on May 20, 2010, 02:08:42 PM
Quote from: baho on May 20, 2010, 01:53:28 PM
ofc x5 won't die. But it will surely lose quite a few players.It will surely split the community in half.

I think most player playing on 5x will stay there, and that a new server will attract new people and those that were on x30 / x8, so rather than just splitting the community it will make it bigger.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 20, 2010, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: spyonyou on May 20, 2010, 02:08:42 PM
Quote from: baho on May 20, 2010, 01:53:28 PM
ofc x5 won't die. But it will surely lose quite a few players.It will surely split the community in half.

I think most player playing on 5x will stay there, and that a new server will attract new people and those that were on x30 / x8, so rather than just splitting the community it will make it bigger.
It's clear it will make it bigger, but at the same time it's clear it will lower x5 numbers. The new ~x15, when ever it might come, will get players from x5, x8 and new players alike. Overall, it will be bigger.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alkaz on May 20, 2010, 02:50:02 PM
If they wipe / roll back
who know if they will not do same thing with x5 in 6 month? with x6 in 1 year?
Same shit as random l2j,
just with hacked files, thx russian mafia
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: roy on May 20, 2010, 02:54:14 PM
dont you get it? It s RPG politic to open new servers in short time its the fastes way to earn money and make playersflood between servers. Once is server opened second is on a way to hell... How long lasts x30? How long will stay x5? Server is good till money are flooding and then ups we lost database we will make another one kk? Best job ever ... neverending money spiral.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Lokocz on May 20, 2010, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: spyonyou on May 20, 2010, 01:16:56 PM
Quote from: Lokocz on May 20, 2010, 12:47:43 PM
Quote from: baho on May 20, 2010, 09:14:02 AM
Best solution (for who ever still played 30x) is to start 30x with that 1,5 month old database, and boost the rates to 60x xp/sp (drop/spoil should be boosted a little also) for the next 2-3 weeks. And of course, return the donated SC to players. This way, it's easier to recover what players lost, even new chars, on a 60x with vitality u should have it remade in no time.

About new ~15x? No sooner then autumn imo. If u open it now or in the near future, u will just kill both 5x and ~15x by splitting the community between the 2.

i think this would be the best solution

This is the worst solution, most people wont play again on that server because everyone knows that a new server will be open soon anyway. So it will just end up dying, i'm sure most people who played on the x30 and stayed until now won't come back to play there if it reopen with the rollback because everyone knows that a new server will be open soon anyway.

new server will raise if they close 30x, if they wont - there is no info about opening new, simply 15x would run on 30x machine, as long as 30x stays up, there is no need for new serbar..
so to make it clear for u - if the 30x will rollback ppl will play bcuz they dont know if any good server will be open soon
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Mouarf on May 20, 2010, 03:32:18 PM
And btw i forget to say :

THIS POLL is a shit  ::)

Would you like to get back *30 ( so your char ) with 1.5 month wipe  = Answer by player from *30 ( who dont want to loose char )
Would you like to get new serv *15 = Answer from all random who missed *5 open, who failed on *5, who come from other serv, ...

So yes, you will get more and more answer for new server, because this Poll is not only for *30 player who will loose their char.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: spyonyou on May 20, 2010, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Lokocz on May 20, 2010, 03:03:51 PM
new server will raise if they close 30x, if they wont - there is no info about opening new, simply 15x would run on 30x machine, as long as 30x stays up, there is no need for new serbar..
so to make it clear for u - if the 30x will rollback ppl will play bcuz they dont know if any good server will be open soon

To make it clear for you most people wont go back to the x30 because for sure they will open a new server before the end of the year.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: spyonyou on May 20, 2010, 03:49:54 PM
Quote from: Mouarf on May 20, 2010, 03:32:18 PM
And btw i forget to say :

THIS POLL is a shit  ::)

Would you like to get back *30 ( so your char ) with 1.5 month wipe  = Answer by player from *30 ( who dont want to loose char )
Would you like to get new serv *15 = Answer from all random who missed *5 open, who failed on *5, who come from other serv, ...

So yes, you will get more and more answer for new server, because this Poll is not only for *30 player who will loose their char.

Sorry for the second post too bored to edit anyway but i was playing on the x30 and still voted for the second option and i beleive 90% of the player of the x30 would agree with a wipe and a fresh start.
Only people who won't like it are from the other server because they will probably lose some people on their server which is understandable but again i do think the x5 will survive in a far better way that the x30 did when the x5 opened
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alkaz on May 20, 2010, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: spyonyou on May 20, 2010, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Lokocz on May 20, 2010, 03:03:51 PM
new server will raise if they close 30x, if they wont - there is no info about opening new, simply 15x would run on 30x machine, as long as 30x stays up, there is no need for new serbar..
so to make it clear for u - if the 30x will rollback ppl will play bcuz they dont know if any good server will be open soon

To make it clear for you most people wont go back to the x30 because for sure they will open a new server before the end of the year.

or if they are not stupid they think that they wont play any more in that serv that wipe / roll back so easily just for.. money? or other fake reasons

QuoteSorry for the second post too bored to edit anyway but i was playing on the x30 and still voted for the second option and i beleive 90% of the player of the x30 would agree with a wipe and a fresh start.


Sure.. lol, LETS WIPE EVERY SIX MONTHS FOR FRESH RESTART
there is always old & news player, how can delete all character and make news can solve this problem?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: spyonyou on May 20, 2010, 03:56:43 PM
Yea after seeing what happen to that server everyone should leave every single server don't you think?
People from the x5 should also stop playing because this warning is clear right?

Well people wont leave the other server because they are still having fun on it and are doing their things, and unfortunately or forunately people will still go play if a new server will open and its actually the reason why many are complaining about a new server coming up, because it will bring people to that server and not to others.

And about the lets wipe every 6 month well for someone who barely played and talking about how boring the server is, its pretty fun to hear ;D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: ssj on May 20, 2010, 04:52:04 PM
5x - low rate u need more ckaes to level up

30x - higher rate u dont need cakes to level up

$$$$
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Maniekk on May 20, 2010, 05:04:03 PM
x8 is the biggest failure and moneymaker server (yes, face it up, take a look for x8 online) so the best option would be wiped x30 or new x15.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Guardian on May 20, 2010, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: Alkaz on May 20, 2010, 02:50:02 PM
If they wipe / roll back
who know if they will not do same thing with x5 in 6 month? with x6 in 1 year?
Same shit as random l2j,
just with hacked files, thx russian mafia
exactly.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Zaill on May 20, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
wipe x30, wipe x8 and start x15 in june...it would be great:-)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Sardy on May 20, 2010, 05:56:54 PM
Quote from: Zaill on May 20, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
wipe x30, wipe x8 and start x15 in june...it would be great:-)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: M1st on May 20, 2010, 05:57:29 PM
Quote from: Zaill on May 20, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
wipe x30, wipe x8 and start x15 in june...it would be great:-)
wipe all servers & make one with Tera-online  :P
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alkaz on May 20, 2010, 06:00:30 PM
wipe all & gtfo
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Stoum on May 20, 2010, 06:08:58 PM
epic fail. Cant trust administration at all no more.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Kewlpwnz1 on May 20, 2010, 06:18:16 PM
WIPE N X15 NAO!
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: Stoum on May 20, 2010, 06:08:58 PM
epic fail. Cant trust administration at all no more.

+1
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Lokocz on May 20, 2010, 06:55:56 PM
Quote from: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: Stoum on May 20, 2010, 06:08:58 PM
epic fail. Cant trust administration at all no more.

+1
same shit happened to other server, i would dare to say its data center's fault
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 07:08:36 PM
i dare to say it's not becuase all 3 servers x5 x8 x1000 ale probably on the same data center, perhaps even sharing some of the same machines so why only one was affected ?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: MateuszDraco on May 20, 2010, 07:16:16 PM
Main question is: why other servers have daily backup while x30 had last backup made in April?


About new server killing x5: i don't agree. x5 is still new server. Many ppl will stay there, they don't want higher rate. But all ppl from x30, some from x5, x8 and many new players will join x30. Removing x30 is worst option - many ppl who don't like low rate will quit - so admins will loose money. Besides new server is another opportunity to earn extra money from peoples who already made donations on x5 ;)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: YeasZ on May 20, 2010, 07:28:45 PM
Because ....






Money is a serious buisness


Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Cronos on May 20, 2010, 07:30:50 PM
Quote from: Stoum on May 20, 2010, 06:08:58 PM
epic fail. Cant trust administration at all no more.
+1
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: CommunismFTW on May 20, 2010, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: MateuszDraco on May 20, 2010, 07:16:16 PM
Main question is: why other servers have daily backup while x30 had last backup made in April?

Quote from: MichaelV on May 20, 2010, 12:48:42 AM
Hey guys, just noticed this ... sad situation  :-[. Only info i can give u is, why the lack of backups.
The backups are missing since x30 was moved to germany. Seems that admin didn't setup the backup process correct. He admits it's his big fault and he's really sorry for it.

How true this is, it's anybodies guess ... Fact is server is gone and nothing can be done to get it back. Live with it or /cut_veins
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Fames on May 20, 2010, 07:43:19 PM
who care about x5 community... what with x30 community ? we lost our server just because admin didint get enough donations from x30 so they decide to close it and move chars to x8, the excuse is they lost 1.5 month of data so chars are less overpowerd and they can move them to x8 wwo complains from x8 players. what ? i am right ? yea i am...
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: mamm0th on May 20, 2010, 09:12:58 PM
wipe and start x15 now!
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: gabitop on May 20, 2010, 09:25:23 PM
Hello allice like these? I have been machera arrives at the servant for 3 weeks, would want to know since we do with the donation! I lose it I can recover or it? Your answer Thanks!
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Sardy on May 20, 2010, 09:28:43 PM
..whatever oO
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Guardian on May 20, 2010, 09:37:16 PM
Quote from: bocian85 on May 20, 2010, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: Stoum on May 20, 2010, 06:08:58 PM
epic fail. Cant trust administration at all no more.

+1
2
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Nighty on May 20, 2010, 09:58:46 PM
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: dexterr on May 20, 2010, 10:00:41 PM
wipe 30*---->change rate on 15* and other rates for 15*--->and start new server hm ?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: RelentLess on May 20, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
Wipe 30x, make a 15x on the 30x server machine, ok yes its gay and lame that the server got fucked up shit happens, and if you believe its the " admins " that wanted it closed in the first place, it would have happened either way if they really wanted it lol. You saying you cant trust them honestly im sure they could give 2 shits if you do get OVER IT.

A 15x would be great, and i highly doubt that anyone that is a factor ( FACTOR ) in the 5x would move, so if some of the pop that isnt really doing anything good on the 5x moves, who fucking cares? They have no impact on the 5x, maybe they will on the 15x lol, i know a good amount of people that would play a fresh Gracia Final 15x server.

It sucks you lost your gear items and time, but if you dont want to play anymore peace bro, noone is going to shed a tear, its time to move past it and see what happens from now. Im hoping for a 15x that be a good fresh start.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: RoSicH on May 21, 2010, 12:05:54 AM
Quote from: RelentLess on May 20, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
Wipe 30x, make a 15x on the 30x server machine, ok yes its gay and lame that the server got fucked up shit happens, and if you believe its the " admins " that wanted it closed in the first place, it would have happened either way if they really wanted it lol. You saying you cant trust them honestly im sure they could give 2 shits if you do get OVER IT.

A 15x would be great, and i highly doubt that anyone that is a factor ( FACTOR ) in the 5x would move, so if some of the pop that isnt really doing anything good on the 5x moves, who fucking cares? They have no impact on the 5x, maybe they will on the 15x lol, i know a good amount of people that would play a fresh Gracia Final 15x server.

It sucks you lost your gear items and time, but if you dont want to play anymore peace bro, noone is going to shed a tear, its time to move past it and see what happens from now. Im hoping for a 15x that be a good fresh start.

gl w8ing 4 month's
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 21, 2010, 12:17:29 AM
Come on, stop and think for second. Was this 30x REALLY a problem in their way of opening a 15x somewhere towards end of the year / start of the next? The server was barely passing over the 500 chars online mark. They could very well move it to a less powerful machine and let it there to rot and die by itself (which already was 90% dead anyway).

Just use ur head for a second, this just sounds too stupid to be done intentional. And i strongly believe no one is this stupid.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: RelentLess on May 21, 2010, 12:37:10 AM
Quote from: RoSicH on May 21, 2010, 12:05:54 AM
Quote from: RelentLess on May 20, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
Wipe 30x, make a 15x on the 30x server machine, ok yes its gay and lame that the server got fucked up shit happens, and if you believe its the " admins " that wanted it closed in the first place, it would have happened either way if they really wanted it lol. You saying you cant trust them honestly im sure they could give 2 shits if you do get OVER IT.

A 15x would be great, and i highly doubt that anyone that is a factor ( FACTOR ) in the 5x would move, so if some of the pop that isnt really doing anything good on the 5x moves, who fucking cares? They have no impact on the 5x, maybe they will on the 15x lol, i know a good amount of people that would play a fresh Gracia Final 15x server.

It sucks you lost your gear items and time, but if you dont want to play anymore peace bro, noone is going to shed a tear, its time to move past it and see what happens from now. Im hoping for a 15x that be a good fresh start.

gl w8ing 4 month's

Thats fine with me bro, i got a life and finishing up college ;), by that time i'll be more free anyways.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 21, 2010, 12:50:39 AM
[Quote author = baho link = topic = 4728.msg55454 # msg55454 date = 1274386649] Come on, stop and think for second. Was this 30x REALLY a problem in their way of opening a 15x somewhere towards end of the year / start of the next? The server was barely passing over the 500 chars online mark. They could very well move it to a less powerful machine and let it there to rot and die by itself (which already was 90% dead anyway). Just use ur head for a second, this just sounds too stupid to be done intentional. And i strongly believe no one is this stupid. [/ Quote]
yes 1500 is barely passing over 500
btw if You stop and think for a second how many different thing must have go wrong to screw up as much as this you will find it nearly impossible and i don't think this is the case, and if it is, thats pretty decent reason to pack your things and go find somewhere else
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 21, 2010, 12:54:49 AM
Quote from: bocian85 on May 21, 2010, 12:50:39 AM
yes 1500 is barely passing over 500
30x never reached this number since 5x was announced. That is since last december. If ur going by the numbers posted on site then i have nothing to answer to you. When ur less clueless we can continue this conversation.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 21, 2010, 12:56:10 AM
[Quote author = baho link = topic = 4728.msg55465 # msg55465 date = 1274388889] [quote author = bocian85 link = topic = 4728.msg55464 # msg55464 date = 1274388639] yes 1500 is barely passing over 500 [/ quote] 30x never reached this number since 5x was announced. That is since last december. If ur going by the numbers posted on site then i have nothing to answer to you. When ur less clueless we can continue this conversation. [/ Quote]

dude I've been checking the online count almost everyday and it was below 1000 only during the night in europe, so i don't know what are you talking about. perhaps you haven't noticed that the number is on the right of the server name not on left, and ou're talking about the x8 and not x30

edit: suprisingly my qouting doesn't work well which is really weirdo, seems that failures happen to this server more than you'd expect
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Pel8 on May 21, 2010, 01:00:47 AM
The count on site was fake usually it was the half, anyway such a fail
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: bocian85 on May 21, 2010, 01:03:21 AM
Well if that's the case then I'm sorry altough seeing what was happening ingame I'd give more than 500 people online
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Raziel on May 21, 2010, 01:26:24 AM
i hope it wont happen on x5 since i chosed rpg instead of dex
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 21, 2010, 01:43:51 AM
Quote from: Raziel on May 21, 2010, 01:26:24 AM
i hope it wont happen on x5 since i chosed rpg instead of dex
U only lost a few days. Please do us all a favor and go there so u can be sure to avoid such a thing ;)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Raziel on May 21, 2010, 01:45:46 AM
Quote from: baho on May 21, 2010, 01:43:51 AM
Quote from: Raziel on May 21, 2010, 01:26:24 AM
i hope it wont happen on x5 since i chosed rpg instead of dex
U only lost a few days. Please do us all a favor and go there so u can be sure to avoid such a thing ;)
why so much hate?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 21, 2010, 01:53:58 AM
Quote from: Raziel on May 21, 2010, 01:45:46 AM
why so much hate?
There's no hate, i'm just giving u the best logical solution. Dex is known for not wiping their servers (at least, not since c4) so ur better of there.
Even though what happened with 30x is an accident and i'm certain of it, WHY risk it? ;)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: YeasZ on May 21, 2010, 02:04:07 AM
Quote from: Raziel on May 21, 2010, 01:26:24 AM
i hope it wont happen on x5 since i chosed rpg instead of dex
As i told you, GL with russians ;)
Because they suk donkey ballz
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Kewlpwnz1 on May 21, 2010, 04:09:06 AM
`WIPE N X15 TOMORROW?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: zosiek on May 21, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
funny, that poll is worthless since even lol d3x fags r making fun of it
hope arion will move to d3xia final so they will quit l2
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Lorakin on May 21, 2010, 07:37:09 PM
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc05.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2010%2F139%2Fb%2Fd%2FLaptop_K_O_by_jollyjack.jpg&hash=1afbd90d8ddac3838d6a2a8d7de51a341c81253a)

RPG x30 RIP
Cya on another server;)

/Lorakin
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Babe on May 22, 2010, 01:21:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s66ta-9CnKI&feature=related
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: pandemonium on May 22, 2010, 04:07:23 AM
Quote from: zosiek on May 21, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
funny, that poll is worthless since even lol d3x fags r making fun of it
hope arion will move to d3xia final so they will quit l2
i quit pve club and moved to dexbound,sup?
pvp> files
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alkaz on May 22, 2010, 04:52:30 AM
Quote from: pandemonium on May 22, 2010, 04:07:23 AM
Quote from: zosiek on May 21, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
funny, that poll is worthless since even lol d3x fags r making fun of it
hope arion will move to d3xia final so they will quit l2
i quit pve club and moved to dexbound,sup?
pvp> files

Gratz
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 22, 2010, 08:38:54 AM
Quote from: pandemonium on May 22, 2010, 04:07:23 AM
Quote from: zosiek on May 21, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
funny, that poll is worthless since even lol d3x fags r making fun of it
hope arion will move to d3xia final so they will quit l2
i quit pve club and moved to dexbound,sup?
pvp> files
Ur saying pvp on arion is better then on 5x or 30x? Yea, 30x was a pve serber most of the times, but difference between New World and Arion is quite huge. Anyway, enjoy ur choice as i did when i discovered l2 a few years ago. With time though ...
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: oXo on May 22, 2010, 04:30:04 PM
so.......
1.5 month rollback, compensating IG all donations made after 10 April 2010    71 (34.8%)
Сlose EN [x30] server, moving all chars to Infinity [x8], and open new ~x15 x5-like server in September 2010    133 (65.2%)
Total Voters: 204

it seems other "low" servers wants a new middle server and it seems also that only 71 players of the 30x really trust in the result of this poll...maybe admins/GMs already have the answer in their mind :(
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Sardy on May 22, 2010, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: oXo on May 22, 2010, 04:30:04 PM
so.......
1.5 month rollback, compensating IG all donations made after 10 April 2010    71 (34.8%)
Сlose EN [x30] server, moving all chars to Infinity [x8], and open new ~x15 x5-like server in September 2010    133 (65.2%)
Total Voters: 204

it seems other "low" servers wants a new middle server and it seems also that only 71 players of the 30x really trust in the result of this poll...maybe admins/GMs already had the answer in their mind :(

fixed.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Ecthe on May 22, 2010, 04:54:09 PM
What is the point of voting, when may vote by players of all servers? Turn on 30x from last backup and you will see, if players will return.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Mayo on May 22, 2010, 05:42:30 PM
Quote from: Ecthe on May 22, 2010, 04:54:09 PM
What is the point of voting, when may vote by players of all servers? Turn on 30x from last backup and you will see, if players will return.

+1 
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: kasperbbs on May 22, 2010, 06:37:07 PM
Quote from: Ecthe on May 22, 2010, 04:54:09 PM
What is the point of voting, when may vote by players of all servers? Turn on 30x from last backup and you will see, if players will return.

i know i wont.. 1,5 months of work gone ,vesper duals 300 attribute gone ,vesper bow gone or w/o sa im not sure.. 10+++ skills gone ,attributed dynasty armor gone ,etc.. and im sure that online would be 300 max including shops ,moving chars to 8x is even dumber ,not only noone is gonna play there but they would probably  kill their current online.. imo just open new 30x  server and be done with it ,this vote is pointless ,both options suck tbh ,according to the number of votes most people agree with me.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Ecthe on May 22, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
I want so they gave us one last chance, nothing more. New server may open for some months. If they open new server now (without publicity), there will be the same number what is on 8x.
Look on voting number how many people u will have on new 15x(why open new 30x? start from beginning again again and again~~~?).
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SplichO on May 22, 2010, 07:52:37 PM
Quote from: Ecthe on May 22, 2010, 04:54:09 PM
What is the point of voting, when may vote by players of all servers? Turn on 30x from last backup and you will see, if players will return.
This is so true, you can see if there is any chance for x30 to be "live" again. But putting a topic where all the people can vote (not just x30 players), it wont give you real picture for sure.

Tho if they wont do that i still suggest that what it was x30 server still remains x30, just get totally wiped then. Low rate x5 aint gonna lose players for x30 and if it does can't be more then 10%. As for x8 suggestion for Administration not to waste $$$ on keeping it up, just close it and announce x15 rate (like x5 style) for September and you wont fail for sure.




LISTEN TO PLAYERS FOR A CHANGE!THEY ASK x15 FOR A REASON :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Crushn1k on May 22, 2010, 08:36:28 PM
so true.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alkaz on May 22, 2010, 11:26:48 PM
Quote from: Bulle on May 22, 2010, 02:17:20 PM
So ?

domised.
Yes
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: gratz on May 22, 2010, 11:38:36 PM
go play sc2 imo

ps. lf one more beta key for my friend)))
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alkaz on May 23, 2010, 01:22:21 AM
lol, i didnt see "move char from x30 to x8 full donation"
epic comu,capitalism
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: C Y P R E $ $ on May 23, 2010, 09:20:31 AM
Fuck yea, open a 15x server, finally a 15x!  ;D but why do you want to open it on Sept? Why not in like 5 weeks when summer starts?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: aYotech on May 23, 2010, 09:44:54 AM
a 15 would be nice. but you should do it in august or earlier.

15x with cakes is a 45x, so it might be a nice server to fuck around but not that easy, and good to know its gonna be same as 5x on settings/donations.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
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Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: pardi on May 23, 2010, 03:40:00 PM
Quote from: aYotech on May 23, 2010, 09:44:54 AM
a 15 would be nice. but you should do it in august or earlier.

15x with cakes is a 45x, so it might be a nice server to fuck around but not that easy, and good to know its gonna be same as 5x on settings/donations.

imho open fresh server just after vacation its not good idea. Better open it before July.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: pandemonium on May 23, 2010, 04:02:28 PM
Quote from: aYotech on May 23, 2010, 09:44:54 AM
a 15 would be nice. but you should do it in august or earlier.

15x with cakes is a 45x, so it might be a nice server to fuck around but not that easy, and good to know its gonna be same as 5x on settings/donations.
u gottta move there?won x5 already?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: KURAIA on May 23, 2010, 05:43:59 PM
ayotech and splicho already thinking to leave x5, lmao.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: dexterr on May 23, 2010, 05:59:54 PM
Today ice hockey tournament CZ vs ru :O The Czech Republic win ,we know it all ,because russians are noobs in IT administration l2 then in hockey too.Btw what is russian mother language mongolian ??? ???
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: mk89 on May 23, 2010, 07:53:12 PM
new x30 on September !
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: dexterr on May 23, 2010, 08:41:01 PM
oh my god !!!! wtf ? really retarted peopel in russian ... :-*
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: YeasZ on May 23, 2010, 08:44:49 PM
Since when gm care about server, they did a poll for you to blablabla, but they don't fuking care about the result
so imo, stop blabla and go away from rpg, they'll did the same everytime "no more money here ? DAMN WIPE GUYS"
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: NK^ on May 23, 2010, 09:40:58 PM
x15 looks cool ;D
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 23, 2010, 10:18:44 PM
Quote from: Yrezym on May 23, 2010, 08:44:49 PM
Since when gm care about server, they did a poll for you to blablabla, but they don't fuking care about the result
so imo, stop blabla and go away from rpg, they'll did the same everytime "no more money here ? DAMN WIPE GUYS"

BB, go with God and take care

btw, it's the first time (and hopefully last) and it happened to about 100% of p servers out there to have db losses. Some bigger, some smaller, sh1t happens.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: losada on May 23, 2010, 11:28:02 PM
so what will happen? there is any official answer on .ru foruns?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: aYotech on May 23, 2010, 11:30:02 PM
this server is dead allready, it just hasnt been announced but as soon as afl or geno quits server goes down the toilet.

why hate nigga, just crafted 2 s80 robes.

so fresh son, so fresh.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: DarkDewer on May 23, 2010, 11:44:25 PM
Make 15x in middle of August
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SplichO on May 23, 2010, 11:54:48 PM
Quote from: aYotech on May 23, 2010, 11:30:02 PM
this server is dead allready, it just hasnt been announced but as soon as afl or geno quits server goes down the toilet.

why hate nigga, just crafted 2 s80 robes.

so fresh son, so fresh.
Is no longer about server, imo is about game. I am sure that those who play LineAge2 around 6 years -+ are for sure bored of L2. High hopes for LineAge3 that aint gonna come out, and small hope that http://www.tera-online.com/ might look interesting enough so people could quit L2. Dunno as long as you are playing private server it remains PRIVATE and owners can do the hell they wanna do with it, cose they simply can.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: aYotech on May 24, 2010, 12:20:07 AM
i honestly play l2 and hon cuz im not really interested in any other games out. im not exacly the video game guy. all i really play other than that  is pes/cod for ps3.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SplichO on May 24, 2010, 12:57:21 AM
Well problem is that retail servers = bots and private server is not really worth so much time ppl investing if 1 day can happen that data base suffer same fate as x30 ENG did. Tho like i said private will be private, so after what happened on x30 i am starting to be afraid is it really worth so much time spend for example on x5 and 1 day some "error" happens and all time invested in it by players "goes down the toilet". Also if we would say that is just a moment when Geno or AFL will quit and server would become "not so interesting", but still is just opinion of some people.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 24, 2010, 12:59:45 AM
The only thing that can kill x5 is a new server. If even 30x that was severely one sided from start till end managed to go for so much time, 5x will easily last much longer. If afl or geno quits, the members that will remain from the emo_quit side will just join the next factor on the list and boost it's power. Yes, it will PROBABLY become less balanced but it will surely not die.

I'm ready to bet right now that the new x15 will be a lot less successful then x5. It will have a good player base (most probably) but it will fall short of x5.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SplichO on May 24, 2010, 01:04:06 AM
So all in all why to play any L2 server when is gonna die at end :D




ps. i c still x1rate RPG-Club having 1k+ population :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 24, 2010, 01:10:12 AM
Quote from: SplichO on May 24, 2010, 01:04:06 AM
So all in all why to play any L2 server when is gonna die at end :D

ps. i c still x1rate RPG-Club having 1k+ population :)
Well, it should be played for the moment. If u like the game then play it and don't worry about a db loss or server closing. So what if that happens? It's not like ur memory will be erased and all ur play time forgotten. You played and most probably had fun while doing it and that's ALL that matters.

Problem of l2 is that it's an old game and new ppl are not interested in playing the game as much as it was sometimes. While it's normal for ppl to quit (they get bored w/e) less ppl join the game. Community is getting smaller and smaller. There were times when we had several large servers overpopulated like x5 now but a lot of ppl left the game and few have started it. Rpg's x5 and arion's x4 are like the last bastions of l2, most of what is left of l2 community is concentrated on this 2 servers. And it will get even worse then this ...
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Lokocz on May 24, 2010, 01:54:21 AM
Quote from: baho on May 24, 2010, 01:10:12 AM
Quote from: SplichO on May 24, 2010, 01:04:06 AM
So all in all why to play any L2 server when is gonna die at end :D

ps. i c still x1rate RPG-Club having 1k+ population :)
Well, it should be played for the moment. If u like the game then play it and don't worry about a db loss or server closing. So what if that happens? It's not like ur memory will be erased and all ur play time forgotten. You played and most probably had fun while doing it and that's ALL that matters.

Problem of l2 is that it's an old game and new ppl are not interested in playing the game as much as it was sometimes. While it's normal for ppl to quit (they get bored w/e) less ppl join the game. Community is getting smaller and smaller. There were times when we had several large servers overpopulated like x5 now but a lot of ppl left the game and few have started it. Rpg's x5 and arion's x4 are like the last bastions of l2, most of what is left of l2 community is concentrated on this 2 servers. And it will get even worse then this ...
i guess u dont know much about other private servers.... there r servers with higher online than those mentioned by u, they r just not well known....
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: blackeagle on May 24, 2010, 02:03:50 AM
asterios?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 24, 2010, 02:59:42 AM
Quote from: Lokocz on May 24, 2010, 01:54:21 AM
i guess u dont know much about other private servers.... there r servers with higher online than those mentioned by u, they r just not well known....
I thought it was obvious im talking about EU/NA servers ...
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Lokocz on May 24, 2010, 03:04:41 AM
Quote from: baho on May 24, 2010, 02:59:42 AM
Quote from: Lokocz on May 24, 2010, 01:54:21 AM
i guess u dont know much about other private servers.... there r servers with higher online than those mentioned by u, they r just not well known....
I thought it was obvious im talking about EU/NA servers ...
like u play on eu/na server.....
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SplichO on May 24, 2010, 03:16:56 AM
Quote from: baho on May 24, 2010, 02:59:42 AM
Quote from: Lokocz on May 24, 2010, 01:54:21 AM
i guess u dont know much about other private servers.... there r servers with higher online than those mentioned by u, they r just not well known....
I thought it was obvious im talking about EU/NA servers ...
Baho you aint playing L2 at all, you are just 24/7 on forums...Btw Dex x4 and rpg x5, are atm not only L2 populated server, but just only low rate servers with "hard core" players, who do not find them self on higher rate. I am sure if there would be a higher rate like x15 and above that you would see people on servers known to you.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alkaz on May 24, 2010, 03:26:51 AM
mucho ass lucker oO
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: KURAIA on May 24, 2010, 03:38:39 AM
so... what are u going to do? rollback or merged?

decided...
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: YeasZ on May 24, 2010, 04:55:34 AM
Quote from: baho on May 23, 2010, 10:18:44 PM
Quote from: Yrezym on May 23, 2010, 08:44:49 PM
Since when gm care about server, they did a poll for you to blablabla, but they don't fuking care about the result
so imo, stop blabla and go away from rpg, they'll did the same everytime "no more money here ? DAMN WIPE GUYS"

BB, go with God and take care

btw, it's the first time (and hopefully last) and it happened to about 100% of p servers out there to have db losses. Some bigger, some smaller, sh1t happens.
Brush your tongue, it's look like sh!t happens
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: nkRwz on May 24, 2010, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: blackeagle on May 24, 2010, 02:03:50 AM
asterios?
asterios is a java shit with edited online counter.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: blackeagle on May 24, 2010, 01:43:04 PM
Quote from: nkRwz on May 24, 2010, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: blackeagle on May 24, 2010, 02:03:50 AM
asterios?
asterios is a java shit with edited online counter.

guess you havent seen any movies from asterios (talking about online)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Fames on May 24, 2010, 02:44:45 PM
i know l2j servers better than ur x30 l2off, close rpg club and dont let ppl loose thier time
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Seno on May 24, 2010, 03:10:25 PM
Quote from: Fames on May 24, 2010, 02:44:45 PM
i know l2j servers better than ur x30 l2off, close rpg club and dont let ppl loose thier time

fosho u know! also working way better right?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Lokocz on May 24, 2010, 05:08:32 PM
Quote from: blackeagle on May 24, 2010, 01:43:04 PM
Quote from: nkRwz on May 24, 2010, 12:30:08 PM
Quote from: blackeagle on May 24, 2010, 02:03:50 AM
asterios?
asterios is a java shit with edited online counter.

guess you havent seen any movies from asterios (talking about online)
asterios has pretty good online but..... 3-4k r offline shops - its like half of the population of their 5x serbar
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 24, 2010, 05:33:03 PM
Quote from: Lokocz on May 24, 2010, 03:04:41 AM
like u play on eu/na server.....
Yes, it's international EU server. Hi
Quote from: SplichO on May 24, 2010, 03:16:56 AM
Baho you aint playing L2 at all, you are just 24/7 on forums...
I'm 99/99 on forums. What does what u just said have to do with what i said? The fact that i had/have little time to play makes what i've said obsolete? Wts logic lessons
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SplichO on May 24, 2010, 05:53:35 PM
It makes a big difference, you saying you got no time to play, but you got time to be on forum24/7. I would understand if you are working maybe and cannot play from work so just posting on forum, but this is just called being lazy and lying yourself how "you got no time". This sounds more like you don't wanna waste time on playing, and on other side you are supporting server with "is good place to play on" and you are the person that aint playing at all, you and me know each other a bit longer and you know very well what i am talking about Baho.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: ssj on May 24, 2010, 06:07:56 PM
u can still bot, like u did on 30x so where is the problem
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 24, 2010, 06:22:58 PM
Excuse me? How the hell do u know what i do and what free time i have? I know u got emo cause i told u u're a very annoying person, but please keep this stuff for you, ok? Thnx

Ssj only time i botted was for a few months on retail and a few days on x30. And believe it or not but i don't know how to get a working bot for rpg now :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: SplichO on May 24, 2010, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: baho on May 24, 2010, 06:22:58 PM
Excuse me? How the hell do u know what i do and what free time i have? I know u got emo cause i told u u're a very annoying person, but please keep this stuff for you, ok? Thnx
Emo person calling me an emo :)
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: gw44tt on May 24, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: baho on May 24, 2010, 05:33:03 PM
Quote from: Lokocz on May 24, 2010, 03:04:41 AM
like u play on eu/na server.....
Yes, it's international EU server. Hi
if you change host, dev team and disable russian letters, yes
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: baho on May 24, 2010, 08:31:50 PM
Quote from: gw44tt on May 24, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
if you change host, dev team and disable russian letters, yes
Host = germany
dev team = russian which is in europe (or part of it)
russian letters = u also have english ones

Anything else?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Polearmerka on May 24, 2010, 08:58:31 PM
Admins, any solution?
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Bulle on May 24, 2010, 09:03:33 PM
When we will have char moved on x8 ?

Stuff waiting for cake !!
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: CommunismFTW on May 24, 2010, 11:00:09 PM
I guess when they'll decide to open x30 again or move the chars.
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: Alkaz on May 25, 2010, 01:09:45 AM
gz sherlock
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: kaze on May 25, 2010, 01:16:19 AM
Quote from: CommunismFTW on May 24, 2010, 11:00:09 PM
I guess when they'll decide to open x30 again or move the chars.
no shit
Title: Re: EN [x30] future - IMPORTANT
Post by: CommunismFTW on May 25, 2010, 02:13:27 AM
Fitting answer to a retarded question ... brainiacs