Hola frands,
Since i'll probably be playing the new server, i figured i'd buy a new computer. What part of the computer should I focus on when considering playing l2? Is it the graphic card? the processor?
thanks.
ssd for sata3 and nice oc on cpu, thats all u need to play on decent fps
ssd hd cost quite a lot tho, what capacity would I need i your opinion?
don't tell me a good graphic card isn't a must :o
Quote from: c1ashpwnz on July 30, 2012, 08:03:09 PM
ssd hd cost quite a lot tho, what capacity would I need i your opinion?
don't tell me a good graphic card isn't a must :o
60gb for system/l2 is more then enough, and if it comes to gpu it just shouldn't be wooden (so it wont bottleneck cpu), cuz most likely modern graphic cards will stay idle while playing l2 :D
like kornes said ssd 60gb for system and l2, cpu with as much ghz as you can + 4gb ram to avoid loadings after tp, graphic card can be for 20euro and its ok for GF.
intel pentium 4 is the best option :D
Solid Mobo and PSU + what kornez said above
Voltage section should have at least 8 phases for cpu and 2 for ram, and ofc they should have solid heatsink
PSU with at least 400W at 12V rail from best brands like OCZ, Corsair, XFX
if ur building new PC and think only about L2 pick some passive GPU or very quiet and cold like some hd 7570
cheap and trustable ssd for ya
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227725
os, lineage and some programs , 60gb is enough
Quote from: 50c on July 30, 2012, 08:48:29 PM
Voltage section should have at least 8 phases
yep, in case topic author would want some more clarify, i attach how PWM circuit generates signal for each phase:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/fullimage.php?image=12438
this is very important !
Quote from: kornez on July 30, 2012, 09:11:37 PM
Quote from: 50c on July 30, 2012, 08:48:29 PM
Voltage section should have at least 8 phases
yep, in case topic author would want some more clarify, i attach how PWM circuit generates signal for each phase:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/fullimage.php?image=12438
this is very important !
watching this image i think overvoltage protecion is not enought so i wouldnt buy it, thx kornes rly helpfull.
intel core i5 2500k OC to 4.8 mhz+some good FAN for it
Good motherboard +good case for OC
average VGA
64 GB SSD
.
Thanks a lot you guys, very helpful even tho i didn' really understand the 8 phases right off the bat. I do know operational amplifier and logical gates but i wouldn't know how to calculate the Vout tensions in this circuit. how can u tell it won't be enough?
i'll look into that in detail tomorrow based on you recommandations.
take the most expensive one. will be good for sure
Quote from: Sabor on July 31, 2012, 11:40:44 AM
take the most expensive one. will be good for sure
;D
Quote from: Sabor on July 31, 2012, 11:40:44 AM
take the most expensive one. will be good for sure
ofc it will
not
it always does
SSD with 30 GB it's ok??=\
if ull clean up it weekly it will be ok for win 7
i use windows xp :D
Quote from: Sabor on July 31, 2012, 11:40:44 AM
take the most expensive one. will be good for sure
you might aswell say nothing.
Just get what i recomended and be happy, everything else woul't give even 5% diference in FPS even with 4 time price diference, also don't take processors on ivy bridge, they are harder to OC and their work temperature is higher. same going 2.6k wont give any advantage except HT that total useles for playing l2. As for me i have good MSI motherboard with 10 year varanty and good OC options +everything also not bad, since i dont use pc only for l2. At Tauti update at last siege like 100x100 i had fps 15-25 with no SSD. In gracia final last time i played on this PC i was 5 boxing and doing siege 200x200+ without any lags from PC side, FPS was very high even on full resolution, but that time i had 17 inch monitor, now it is 23,5 and FPS kinda much lower.
Quote from: 50c on July 31, 2012, 05:02:20 PM
if ull clean up it weekly it will be ok for win 7
Win 7 is bad form what i heard ....
Quote from: iAlexandruuu on July 31, 2012, 04:10:45 PM
SSD with 30 GB it's ok??=\
you can move
users folder to the other disk to save a lot GBs, but it will also slow down system sometimes.
Quote from: Mrkiller on July 31, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: 50c on July 31, 2012, 05:02:20 PM
if ull clean up it weekly it will be ok for win 7
Win 7 is bad form what i heard ....
win xp FTW ;p
OT: i wouldnt ever take MSI mobo for OC purpose, almost every AM3 and a lot lga 1155 are failures with their bad power stages
ok thanks, i'll do that.
I'll look into that and list the potential parts i'll buy and you'll give me your opinion on those.
you were all very helpful, thank you mates.
:)
Quote from: 50c on July 31, 2012, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: Mrkiller on July 31, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: 50c on July 31, 2012, 05:02:20 PM
if ull clean up it weekly it will be ok for win 7
Win 7 is bad form what i heard ....
win xp FTW ;p
OT: i wouldnt ever take MSI mobo for OC purpose, almost every AM3 and a lot lga 1155 are failures with their bad power stages
MSI p67,z77 cheapset are best MOBOS for OC.
Also win XP is good for weak PC's with less then 3 gb ram, and need be reinstaled every half year, cause problems with registry, Win 7 is for good PC's and dont need any reinstall, cause all old problem's was removed, only what u need is do some managment with safety rules, because they made win7 too safe.
win xp 64 installed just after i quit l2, like 1.5 years ago and its as fast as it was when installed, sup?
tehre are no problems with stability of win xp
queem = dumb ru, alarionfirmed.
Quote from: 50c on August 01, 2012, 04:30:01 PM
win xp 64 installed just after i quit l2, like 1.5 years ago and its as fast as it was when installed, sup?
tehre are no problems with stability of win xp
Probably u don't do nothing on ur PC except watching movies, that's the diference.
xp beste ever win7 vista win 8 are just inteligent and complex bulshit
linux > windows
Quote from: Queem on August 01, 2012, 05:03:38 PM
Quote from: 50c on August 01, 2012, 04:30:01 PM
win xp 64 installed just after i quit l2, like 1.5 years ago and its as fast as it was when installed, sup?
tehre are no problems with stability of win xp
Probably u don't do nothing on ur PC except watching movies, that's the diference.
downloading sh1tload of music every day, movies, last days i downloaded 72Gb of pride FC fights, just think how my hdd structure look like, think about MFC table on c partition which wasnt defragmented since i purchased this hdd.
Just i know hot tuo use PC properly :)
Quote from: 50c on August 02, 2012, 01:41:47 AM
Quote from: Queem on August 01, 2012, 05:03:38 PM
Quote from: 50c on August 01, 2012, 04:30:01 PM
win xp 64 installed just after i quit l2, like 1.5 years ago and its as fast as it was when installed, sup?
tehre are no problems with stability of win xp
Probably u don't do nothing on ur PC except watching movies, that's the diference.
downloading sh1tload of music every day, movies, last days i downloaded 72Gb of pride FC fights, just think how my hdd structure look like, think about MFC table on c partition which wasnt defragmented since i purchased this hdd.
Just i know hot tuo use PC properly :)
if you dont mess up registers with another game, programs, etc its fine then :) fragmentation wont slow you so much as registers
exactly its what i said, portable apps, weekly cleaning of temp folders and registry with RegOrganizer is the key :)
thanks for the answers,
now stop that moon language.
128 GB SSD SATA3 cost around ~90-110€, Intel 3570K ~200€ and 8-16 GB 1866/2133 DDR3 (you can use your RAM as cache for Lineage 2 and it's even faster than a SSD) - 50-150€.
hey lionna, thanks for the advice ;)
Just as hint (build a value pc for a friend some months ago):
- Asrock Fatal1ty P67 Performence ~95€
- Samsung 128 830 SSD SATA 3 ~95€
- Intel i5 2500K ~180€ (new 3rd Generation cost 30€ more)
- 2x G.Skill Sniper 1866 DDR3 8 GB ~45€x2
- Coolermaster GX Lite 600W ~55€
He already had 4 TB HDDs as storage, graphic card (doesn't really matter for L2) and a PC case, so around 500-550€ for a new PC. Rig can easily handle Lineage 2 mass pvps or new games like Battlefield 3.
Quote from: darkflame on August 02, 2012, 10:46:01 PM
Just as hint (build a value pc for a friend some months ago):
- Asrock Fatal1ty P67 Performence ~95€
- Samsung 128 830 SSD SATA 3 ~95€
- Intel i5 2500K ~180€ (new 3rd Generation cost 30€ more)
- 2x G.Skill Sniper 1866 DDR3 8 GB ~45€x2
- Coolermaster GX Lite 600W ~55€
He already had 4 TB HDDs as storage, graphic card (doesn't really matter for L2) and a PC case, so around 500-550€ for a new PC. Rig can easily handle Lineage 2 mass pvps or new games like Battlefield 3.
im not a spec nerd but surely if your making a budget pc you dont really need 16gb of ram
Quote from: Slush ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on August 02, 2012, 10:51:49 PM
im not a spec nerd but surely if your making a budget pc you dont really need 16gb of ram
He is using 8 GB as SuperCache and RAM isn't so expensive.
u dont wanna wait 0,1s more while porting!
Quote from: darkflame on August 02, 2012, 08:35:22 PM
128 GB SSD SATA3 cost around ~90-110€, Intel 3570K ~200€ and 8-16 GB 1866/2133 DDR3 (you can use your RAM as cache for Lineage 2 and it's even faster than a SSD) - 50-150€.
is that hard to use ram as cache for l2 or thats smth anyone can do? im nub ;>
There are 2 programs to use your RAM as cache or ramdisk. RAMDISK require alot RAM, because you need atleast 8-10 GB for the client and 2 GB for the game itself. I think neiz or someone in LL had a modified Gracia Final Client just for the textures and models, so 4 GB were enough to get max performence.
Supercache: http://www.superspeed.com/desktop/supercache.php
Ramdisk: http://www.superspeed.com/servers/ramdisk.php
Note: Both programs require 8+ GB RAM (better 16-32 GB RAM), maybe less with the modified client.
im currious.. based on a sata2/ddr2 system; would increasing max ram for ramdisk/cache be supperior to a sata 2 ssd when concerning lineage 2?
i assume its just a matter of comparing opperating freq of said ram vs the data transf speed of said ssd? correct me if im wrong.
thanks in advance,
Quote from: dlrtpipemlkshk on August 05, 2012, 06:28:24 AM
im currious.. based on a sata2/ddr2 system; would increasing max ram for ramdisk/cache be supperior to a sata 2 ssd when concerning lineage 2?
i assume its just a matter of comparing opperating freq of said ram vs the data transf speed of said ssd? correct me if im wrong.
thanks in advance,
ddr2-800 ram got ~6 GB/s (ddr3-1600 even 2x more) peak transfer rate, when ssd on sata3 is ~550 MB/s at best. Also access latency to ram is literally one million times faster then to ssd (ns vs ms) :D
RAMdisc is sure better then ssd and cheaper, but... SSD compared to HDD is like 1000+% diference, and SSD compared to Ramdisc is not even 20-30% that are not even 0,3ms faster.+RAMdisc u need upload all files from ur HDD/SSD before start playing after each reboot.
Most effective way is buy 128 gb SSD for system+l2.
Quote from: dlrtpipemlkshk on August 05, 2012, 06:28:24 AM
im currious.. based on a sata2/ddr2 system; would increasing max ram for ramdisk/cache be supperior to a sata 2 ssd when concerning lineage 2?
i assume its just a matter of comparing opperating freq of said ram vs the data transf speed of said ssd? correct me if im wrong.
thanks in advance,
SATA2 max transfer = 300 MB/sec // SATA3 = 600 MB/sec
DDR2 max transfer = 3200 MB/sec // DDR3 = 6400 MB/sec
Access time of a SSD is 0,1-0,3 ms (depending on your SSD)
Access time of a RAM is 30-110 ns (nanoseconds)
30 ns = 0.00003 ms
The problem of Lineage 2 is the game engine. Lineage 2 is always loading textures and models for every player and npc, so a normal HDD with 7,3 ms access time kinda kill your performence (even with a i7 @ 5 GHZ and alot RAM).
All you need for Lineage 2 is a good HDD with good access time (transfer rates doesn't really matter), good CPU to handle all the data and fast RAM.
Edit:To explain why ramdisk or a SSD is better kinda takes too long. I could write pages about it. ~~
All you need to know:
Ramdisk:
+ best access time
+ best transfer rates
+ no hardware lags in Lineage 2
- data is always "deleted" after you reboot or turn off your pc
- no improvement for the system, just for the programs or games stored on the ramdisk
- most expensive (5,65€ / GB)
SSD:
+ can be used as system drive (Windows + programs), so fast boot
+/- good access times
+/- good transfer rates
+/- almost no hardware lags in Lineage 2
- slower than Ramdisk
- still expensive compare to normal HDDs (0.9€ / GB)
HDD:
+ cheap
- slow access time
- slow transfer rates, just 100-150 mb/sec
- Lineage 2 lagging like hell
might stay in hell :( poor me, good info anyway ))
Ramdisk
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww7.pic-upload.de%2Fthumb%2F05.08.12%2F3ytj9le2blf8.jpg&hash=936a98642d6d6fcbf9918471fd1ce0b5268066c0) (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-15457973/ramdisk.jpg.html)
vs
Samsung 830 SSD
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fextreme.pcgameshardware.de%2Fattachments%2F510608d1326831894-benchmark-der-ssd-ranglisten-thread-1-1215-punkte-830.jpg&hash=1036d795f63f4e7bf1976ccbe35870da51222528)
Edit:
Also there a programs that can load iso images, so you don't have to copy the files everytime you reboot.
Quote from: darkflame on August 05, 2012, 03:40:33 PM
DDR2 max transfer = 3200 MB/sec // DDR3 = 6400 MB/sec
max? lol, these are lowest possible transfers, and noone use rams witch such cloaks nowadays
Quote from: darkflame on August 05, 2012, 03:40:33 PM
Access time of a RAM is 30-110 ns (nanoseconds)
110? wonder what ram is slow like that :D
actually ddr1/2/3 wont cross 30ns
Quote from: kornez on August 05, 2012, 08:12:15 PM
Quote from: darkflame on August 05, 2012, 03:40:33 PM
DDR2 max transfer = 3200 MB/sec // DDR3 = 6400 MB/sec
max? lol, these are lowest possible transfers, and noone use rams witch such cloaks nowadays
Quote from: darkflame on August 05, 2012, 03:40:33 PM
Access time of a RAM is 30-110 ns (nanoseconds)
110? wonder what ram is slow like that :D
actually ddr1/2/3 wont cross 30ns
http://i45.tinypic.com/2qi0b43.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/mha5hu.jpg
well kinda true, i meant cas latency which is i/o delay counted from memory controller to memory cell. Real latency can be as big as lionna wrote, misunderstood ;s
btw dont listen raziel about winxp this guy was formating this shit every 1week.
The thing is this all testing's in real program dont give even 2% difence. Like same memory with timings 4-4-4-4 and 12-12-12-12 in tests will be diference more then 20%, in l2 or ps3 or ae or any other program wont be even 1%.
Quote from: kornez on August 05, 2012, 08:46:04 PM
well kinda true, i meant cas latency which is i/o delay counted from memory controller to memory cell. Real latency can be as big as lionna wrote, misunderstood ;s
I was kinda talking about the max transfer as ramdisk, because 18000-21000 MB/sec are impossible. Real read/copy rate is around 5900-6600 MB/sec
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww10.pic-upload.de%2F05.08.12%2Fdvw31s6mv7a2.png&hash=b249f2179f32392d458c961f54376a9e8be971a9)
If RAM ever reach 2-4 ns, then we don't need L2 or L3 Cache for the CPU. lol ;D
Quote from: darkflame on August 05, 2012, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: kornez on August 05, 2012, 08:46:04 PM
well kinda true, i meant cas latency which is i/o delay counted from memory controller to memory cell. Real latency can be as big as lionna wrote, misunderstood ;s
I was kinda talking about the max transfer as ramdisk, because 18000-21000 MB/sec are impossible. Real read/copy rate is around 5900-6600 MB/sec
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww10.pic-upload.de%2F05.08.12%2Fdvw31s6mv7a2.png&hash=b249f2179f32392d458c961f54376a9e8be971a9)
If RAM ever reach 2-4 ns, then we don't need L2 or L3 Cache for the CPU. lol ;D
Very good mobo bro. :)
his mobo cost more then my cpu,
GGggggggg
Quote from: kornez on August 05, 2012, 09:42:42 PM
his mobo cost more then my cpu,
GGggggggg
So better get normal pc i dont want on new server bd with amiga !
Quote from: Tazman on August 05, 2012, 09:25:40 PM
Very good mobo bro. :)
I just use it because my old motherboard died 1 month ago and Asus still didn't replace my Maximus Gen V Z77. Still the Fatal1ty is better than your Pro3 :D
Quote from: darkflame on August 05, 2012, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: Tazman on August 05, 2012, 09:25:40 PM
Very good mobo bro. :)
I just use it because my old motherboard died 1 month ago and Asus still didn't replace my Maximus Gen V Z77. Still the Fatal1ty is better than your Pro3 :D
Well i dont rly need very good mobo cuz as you can see i dont use any hardcore OC so i think this one is enought for me. And i dont have any problems with pc no format since like 1 year or longer and everything working perfect.
Guys, maybe you can offer notebook, that would be fine for l2? I mean enough to handle mass pvp, i don't need any gfx effect, just smooth run.
500-600 euros I guess would be fine.
Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on August 06, 2012, 11:36:39 AM
Guys, maybe you can offer notebook, that would be fine for l2? I mean enough to handle mass pvp, i don't need any gfx effect, just smooth run.
500-600 euros I guess would be fine.
any notebook with i5 2.5Ghz (3Ghz+ with TB) and 4-6GB ram
@tazman nigga plz i installed current wystem 16.07.2011, do the math! when i was playing ofc i had to format it more often but still not every week ;p
Acer AS5750G or Acer V3-571 or Asus A55VM?
Is this notebook is good for l2 playing? Which one is better?
none, no fucking mainstream notebook for 500-600€ can handle rpg mass pvps at proper framerates. Not to mention notebooks usally have slow 5400 RPM HDDs.
Well, I guess it would be a lot better, than my current pc. AMD 6000+ x2, 4870 Radeon and 2gb of ram. Aren't they?
Because I'm noob at pc specs, so I need a lot of help. :D
Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on August 11, 2012, 10:55:45 PM
Well, I guess it would be a lot better, than my current pc. AMD 6000+ x2, 4870 Radeon and 2gb of ram. Aren't they?
Because I'm noob at pc specs, so I need a lot of help. :D
dont think so ... only what you need is a big frequency on CPU and for sure at least 4+GB RAM
Well, Asus has Intel® Core™ i5-3210M (3M Cache, 2.50 GHz) and 6GB of Ram. It looks good for me.
Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on August 11, 2012, 11:15:12 PM
Well, Asus has Intel® Core™ i5-3210M (3M Cache, 2.50 GHz) and 6GB of Ram. It looks good for me.
in my opinion it really doesnt worth to buy some notebook in this price relation btw you dont want to buy destop? coz for this price you will have much much better:)
Nope, because I will need to carry it a lot. :) Notebook is the only way and I don't have any more budget.
that notebook isnt bad but you will suffer so much coz of 5400rpm hdd:)
Hello, i also am looking for a new notebook, sadly but cant have a personal pc, need a laptop :( which would be fair price and good enough stats for l2 mass pvps and stuff like this and so far im thinking about this:
Asus N53SM
My option stats is:
Intel® Core™ i7 2670QM Processor
Intel® HM65 Express Chipset
DDR3 1333 MHz SDRAM, 4 x SO-DIMM socket for expansion up to 16 GB SDRAM (mine is 4gb ram)
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 630M with 2GB DDR3 VRAM
Any thoughts?
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww10.pic-upload.de%2Fthumb%2F11.08.12%2F3uw3773gmm3.jpg&hash=42faa894e737c463ddbc940364a2cf71a0591b75) (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-15558425/5400.jpg.html)
There you go, read the last pages then you know what you need for "lagless" Lineage 2.
Most of you write about things you dont know. SSD drives arent that good as every1 thinks they are. They improve load time, but not that much to consider buying it. If you want very fast load time (much faster then ssd) using low funds buy 12-16gb of ram, move textures or full client on ram drive and enjoy. Game is old enough that any decent parts in store are enough
actually u didnt add anything new to this topic cuz there was ram drive mentioned on first pages.
and the fact that game is old doesn't mean you can buy anything in store and it will work flawless... "write about things you dont know"
Quote from: Furine on August 12, 2012, 02:30:23 AM
Most of you write about things you dont know. SSD drives arent that good as every1 thinks they are. They improve load time, but not that much to consider buying it. If you want very fast load time (much faster then ssd) using low funds buy 12-16gb of ram, move textures or full client on ram drive and enjoy. Game is old enough that any decent parts in store are enough
You, sir, are an idiot.
Just buy the most expensive computer.
Quote from: Director on August 12, 2012, 10:42:58 PM
Just buy the most expensive computer.
and you just cut your head off
Intel pentium CPU 5700 / 2gb ram ddr2/ nvidia geforce 210 / 80 gb hard disk hitachi hds721680pla380 ..pro pc and i lag even at 5v5 ..so better paint it blue and throw on sea or there is some way to make it to handle l2 :D
wooden pc or is my idea?
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg26.imageshack.us%2Fimg26%2F730%2Ffail2p.png&hash=dc07fa1fdedae956435bca205d8b90cbb7868e47) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/fail2p.png/)
I'd suggest you buy something that works on Ivy bridge, I don't want to brag or anything like such but this may be your best suggestion so far.
I got the best possible sandy bridge setup. I got 2 ssds in raid 0 - 832mb/s reading speed, an i7 2700k and a 570 nvidia, 16gb rams. buy anything that goes on Ivy bridge motherboard.
I still lag in 200 vs 200 if it happens on a 3k radius. not big lags but fps is @ 10 - 15 in alt +p. do not have such high expectations. for whatever happens to you ig... blame the fucking bad coding.
Is it true that SSD have limited lifetime? And when I buy that SSD I need to take off my other HDD or it can be all together?
There is lifetime like for everything but don't worry you won't even reach it probably
Can be all together
Stupidity doesn't have lifetime though ,it will always be there for you
Quote from: KoreaPls on September 05, 2012, 07:33:48 PM
Is it true that SSD have limited lifetime? And when I buy that SSD I need to take off my other HDD or it can be all together?
Not really important for normal customer. You never reach the max write cycles as normal user and all you need is to disable (paging files) and enable some feature. There are plenty of tutorials/guides for SSDs. Normal MTBF of a "normal" HDD is around 1-1,2kk hours and a SSD around 1,8-2,5kk hours.
so guys what do u think is the better ssd quality/price in the market atm?
your question just proves that you are a clueless person just trying to get some attention , it's so obvious
OCZ Vertex 3
Corsair Force Series 3
HP ProBook 4535s
CPU: AMD Dual-Core A4-3305M (1.9/2.5GHz, 1 MB Cache)
Video card: AMD Radeon HD 6510G2 Dual Graphics с 1GB
HDD: 750 GB 5400 rpm
RAM : 6GB (1x2048MB + 1x4096MB) DDR3
how this will work on GF ? for mas pvp
can I do the ramdisk supercache thingy with just 8GB of RAM?
http://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_recenzje/Jak_przyspieszyc_dysk_SSD_w_Windows_7-3230.html
well my new corsar M4 128gb is coming to get you guyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys
Quote from: ruller on September 12, 2012, 12:25:05 PM
HP ProBook 4535s
CPU: AMD Dual-Core A4-3305M (1.9/2.5GHz, 1 MB Cache)
Video card: AMD Radeon HD 6510G2 Dual Graphics с 1GB
HDD: 750 GB 5400 rpm
RAM : 6GB (1x2048MB + 1x4096MB) DDR3
how this will work on GF ? for mas pvp
Did you read any post in this thread? I give you some hints ... 5400 RPM HDD, AMD CPU and probably cheap RAM <.<
Quote from: Udunnome on September 12, 2012, 12:47:34 PM
can I do the ramdisk supercache thingy with just 8GB of RAM?
You have to modify your client, so you can store the textures and models in the RAMdisk and the rest of client on your normal HDD/SSD, because 8 GB ain't enough to store the whole client.
Quote from: darkflame on September 13, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: ruller on September 12, 2012, 12:25:05 PM
HP ProBook 4535s
CPU: AMD Dual-Core A4-3305M (1.9/2.5GHz, 1 MB Cache)
Video card: AMD Radeon HD 6510G2 Dual Graphics с 1GB
HDD: 750 GB 5400 rpm
RAM : 6GB (1x2048MB + 1x4096MB) DDR3
how this will work on GF ? for mas pvp
Did you read any post in this thread? I give you some hints ... 5400 RPM HDD, AMD CPU and probably cheap RAM <.<
i bought this one 1 week ago but didn't test it yet on GF ( mass pvp ) thats why i just ask
Quote from: ruller on September 13, 2012, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: darkflame on September 13, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: ruller on September 12, 2012, 12:25:05 PM
HP ProBook 4535s
CPU: AMD Dual-Core A4-3305M (1.9/2.5GHz, 1 MB Cache)
Video card: AMD Radeon HD 6510G2 Dual Graphics с 1GB
HDD: 750 GB 5400 rpm
RAM : 6GB (1x2048MB + 1x4096MB) DDR3
how this will work on GF ? for mas pvp
Did you read any post in this thread? I give you some hints ... 5400 RPM HDD, AMD CPU and probably cheap RAM <.<
i bought this one 1 week ago but didn't test it yet on GF ( mass pvp ) thats why i just ask
so read what we wrote already before and maybe you realize that it will be so laggy game on that:)
Quote from: darkflame on September 13, 2012, 10:22:55 AM
Quote from: Udunnome on September 12, 2012, 12:47:34 PM
can I do the ramdisk supercache thingy with just 8GB of RAM?
You have to modify your client, so you can store the textures and models in the RAMdisk and the rest of client on your normal HDD/SSD, because 8 GB ain't enough to store the whole client.
yea i know but what folder should i store on my RAM partition? Systextyures or Textures?
Quote from: ruller on September 13, 2012, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: darkflame on September 13, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: ruller on September 12, 2012, 12:25:05 PM
HP ProBook 4535s
CPU: AMD Dual-Core A4-3305M (1.9/2.5GHz, 1 MB Cache)
Video card: AMD Radeon HD 6510G2 Dual Graphics с 1GB
HDD: 750 GB 5400 rpm
RAM : 6GB (1x2048MB + 1x4096MB) DDR3
how this will work on GF ? for mas pvp
Did you read any post in this thread? I give you some hints ... 5400 RPM HDD, AMD CPU and probably cheap RAM <.<
i bought this one 1 week ago but didn't test it yet on GF ( mass pvp ) thats why i just ask
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynxPshq8ERo
You need SSD and some intel CPU.
guys i have HDD HDS721680PLA380 (this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145127)
and CPU intel pentium E5700 dual core ,
2gb ram ddr2
im thinking to buy like 8gb ram ddr3 , or it wont help?
Quote from: QQ on September 14, 2012, 12:40:26 AM
guys i have HDD HDS721680PLA380 (this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145127)
and CPU intel pentium E5700 dual core ,
2gb ram ddr2
im thinking to buy like 8gb ram ddr3 , or it wont help?
It won't help. 4GB is enough. Unless you are going to use RAMDisk you just load whole game into RAM so you need about 8GB ram for just a game (depends what's the client size)(smiliar performance to SSD) or You just need some SSD or Intel CPU.
SSD and RAMDISK test
im gonna fix my pc
and i thinking to buy :
motherboard: sata 3 /like 16 gb ram ddr3 max/ (socket 1155)
cpu : intel i3 (cant use my old cpu cuz its for socket 775)
SSD : some intel ssd probly with like 60/64/80 gb and like 500~ read/write
RAM:like 8gb ddr3 1333
card graphic : atm i have nvidia geforce 210 (1gb)well mby no need new ..l2 its cartoon not like some other games that need rly good card graphic
atm my pc
motherboard: sata 2 / max 4gb ram ddr2 667 /socket 775
cpu: intel pentium dual core e5700
HHD 80 gb .. tested read/write -> and was like 60/55 mb read/write
ram:2gb ddr2 667
so it worths to fix pc ? (intel i3 = 90euro at near shop /motherboard 90euro too/SSD 70EURO/and like 4gb ram witch i dont know exantly how much cost (prbly 30-40 euro)
its like 270~ euro but pc will be like new
(Just for l2)
I also decide bought new PC for start RPG:
CPU: I5 2500k
Mobo: AsRock P67 Pro 3
GPU: Radeon 7870 2GB OC
SSD: Vertex 3 120 GB
ram: 2x2 GB kingstone
How i play on this ?
Quote from: mrPANIC on September 18, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
I also decide bought new PC for start RPG:
CPU: I5 2500k
Mobo: AsRock P67 Pro 3
GPU: Radeon 7870 2GB OC
SSD: Vertex 3 120 GB
ram: 2x2 GB kingstone
How i play on this ?
on a 50x50 15-22 fps , with 20 fps the eye dont feel any diference so mb if u buy a cheaper graphic card like 6950 ati 1gb go be fine i think
are you joking ?
Even a four years old graphic card is enough for Lineage 2 (like a GTX 260/280). Better invest the money in good motherboard, better RAM (1866+) and instead of the OCZ take a Samsung or Intel.
2late, today i get my new rocket ;)
www.graciafinal.eu (http://"https://www.graciafinal.eu")
GF L2Off x5 (AdvExt64 - как и РПГ-клуб) - 5-ого Октября !
www.graciafinal.eu (http://"https://www.graciafinal.eu")
Server platform: L2OFF Gracia Final, all known bugs fixed within.
- All in-game features are working retail-like.
- International community.
- Strong anti-bot software.
- Maximum 2 game windows are allowed by anti-bot software.
- Balanced donations:
- - Premium items: +50% EXP and SP bonus items.
- - Various fashionable accessories, hats, agathions, etc.
- Offline shop function.
Server machine:
- 32 GB DDR3 RAM
- Intel Core i7-2600 Quadcore with Hyper-Threading Technology
- 1 Gbit onboard connected at 100 Mbit line
Basic server rates:
- EXP x5 amount
- SP x5 amount
- Drop x5 chance (x1 amount) / Drop amount for materials and parts x5
- Spoil x5 chance (x1 amount) / Spoil amount for materials and parts x5
- Adena x5 amount (x1 chance)
- Seal Stone x5 amount (x1 chance)
- Boss Drop x5 chance (x1 amount)
- Boss EXP x5 amount
- Boss SP x5 amount
- Boss Adena x5 amount (x1 chance)
- Quest items drop x1 chance (x1 amount) / Most important quests group – quest items drop chance and amount x3
- Quest reward amount (x1) / Adena and EXP reward amount x5
so im thinking to buy some ssd intel 330 .. but i still dont know what is firmware and trim (i hear that trim is for w7)
so both firmware and trim increase read/write speed? i dont have any idea so give some help :D
and smthing more.. whats the different between intel cpu i3 and i5 on l2 ?
i3=2 cores 3mb
i5=4cores 6mb
btw, samsung 830 SSD 60 gb = 520read/160 write its cool?