RW abusing rules

bjorn · November 04, 2009, 02:36:01 AM

Will there be any punishment for members of Redwings clan, which killed AQ several times during the period, when GMs announced that its forbidden?

kaze · November 04, 2009, 02:47:29 AM

Its obvious, if nobody gets hammered, abusers will gain more confidence end they will abuse more

bjorn · November 04, 2009, 02:50:33 AM

Ye, if they wont be punished in any way, its pointless to do statements like that :

Attention!!!
Epic and Raid boss farm is temporarily forbidden!!!
Punishment: permanent account ban.
Administration is working at this.

They were killing Barakiel several times too.

Spinxas · November 04, 2009, 03:03:16 AM

Plx screens/fraps that would show we killed AQ several times or stfu. Thx.

kaze · November 04, 2009, 03:05:33 AM

Barakiel much?

bjorn · November 04, 2009, 03:08:38 AM

Quote from: Spinxas on November 04, 2009, 03:03:16 AM
Plx screens/fraps that would show we killed AQ several times or stfu. Thx.

Think admin can easily check in logs, who killed AQ today

Spinxas · November 04, 2009, 03:14:06 AM

Quote from: kaze on November 04, 2009, 03:05:33 AM
Barakiel much?

We farmed barakiel before the main admin post, we heard that we cant farm the Epic raids, so we did that, barakiel is not epic raid so we did few nobless and yeah after admins main post we stoped farming everything, did few partys and went to 4s and other places to do

bjorn · November 04, 2009, 03:19:14 AM

Quote from: Spinxas on November 04, 2009, 03:14:06 AM
Quote from: kaze on November 04, 2009, 03:05:33 AM
Barakiel much?
We farmed barakiel before the main admin post, we heard that we cant farm the Epic raids, so we did that, barakiel is not epic raid so we did few nobless and yeah after admins main post we stoped farming everything, did few partys and went to 4s and other places to do

ohh

please read server rules

1. Players are not allowed to:
1.3 Take advantage of the server bugs (including geodata flaws).
1.13 Violate the rules.

4. Punishment for rules violation will be decided by Administration/GMs according to offense severity
6. Lack of knowledge of these rules does not free the player from responsibility in any way.

So u have no excuse for killing Barakiel several times and u just admitted that you have killed it

so gf

Spinxas · November 04, 2009, 03:22:42 AM

There are many screens that shows to everyone that we killed it so you think i should hite it? You are QQing now becouse we PKed you and you whined for pt is that it? We obeyd the GM, he said not to farm Epics we did so, after few hours he said not to farm any boss at all, fine we did that, what do you expect? How could we know that we were abusing the rules if we listened to the GM.

bjorn · November 04, 2009, 03:25:57 AM

Quote from: Spinxas on November 04, 2009, 03:22:42 AM
There are many screens that shows to everyone that we killed it so you think i should hite it? You are QQing now becouse we PKed you and you whined for pt is that it? We obeyd the GM, he said not to farm Epics we did so, after few hours he said not to farm any boss at all, fine we did that, what do you expect? How did we could know that we were abusing the rules if we listened to the GM.

You have no clue who i am

so i doubt i was the one you think i am. You didnt followed the rules, you exploited a bug. Face it and admin should punish your clanmembers, which participated at that raid.

) ohh you didnt know that Barakiel should not spawn again right after he was killed ? Really funny. Try to think when you are writing sentences.

Lloth · November 04, 2009, 03:26:23 AM

About respawn and kill raids...

Its big stupidity from ppl what this can do. Normal people knows about xxhours respawning... so stfu with "WE DIDNT KNOW" or something like that .

bjorn · November 04, 2009, 03:27:27 AM

Quote from: Lloth on November 04, 2009, 03:26:23 AM
About respawn and kill raids...

Its big stupidity from ppl what this can do. Normal people knows about xxhours respawning... so stfu with "WE DIDNT KNOW" or something like that .

Exactly. And if they were so stupid and didnt know. They are not excused:

6. Lack of knowledge of these rules does not free the player from responsibility in any way.

Spinxas · November 04, 2009, 03:29:58 AM

Nope we listened to the GM, sadly he could be more precise, becouse now everyone is angry... Is it so hard to write: Dear players, any raid farm is illegal. Everyone doing so will be punished.... Is that so freaking hard to write? NO. I wonder why GM wrote down : Epic farm is forbidden instead of Any raid farming.

Lloth · November 04, 2009, 03:33:45 AM

And thats why u make only "few nobleses" gz...

For haters:
Dont forget next time write to ETC something about bugusers,cheaters and next

bjorn · November 04, 2009, 03:35:30 AM

Quote from: Spinxas on November 04, 2009, 03:29:58 AM
Nope we listened to the GM, sadly he could be more precise, becouse now everyone is angry... Is it so hard to write: Dear players, any raid farm is illegal. Everyone doing so will be punished.... Is that so freaking hard to write? NO. I wonder why GM wrote down : Epic farm is forbidden instead of Any raid farming.

That dont makes you guys not guilty. And ppl tried, but you guys didnt care about what ppl wrote. So dont come here with such lame stuff like: You could tell us ...

Tiax · November 04, 2009, 04:36:24 AM

Yea because it's like totally normal for the boss you can normally kill once every day or so to respawn instantly after you killed it - you probably didn't know it was not supposed to do that - right?

Seriously anyone with at least the slightliest bit of common sense would of stopped killing it after the first time, especially since this is not a new bug at all (see baium issue few days ago), since anything else is OBVIOUSLY nothing but exploiting this error.

Bubbleh · November 04, 2009, 08:11:13 AM

Lionna · November 04, 2009, 10:11:18 AM

Quote from: Spinxas on November 04, 2009, 03:22:42 AM
There are many screens that shows to everyone that we killed it so you think i should hite it? You are QQing now becouse we PKed you and you whined for pt is that it? We obeyd the GM, he said not to farm Epics we did so, after few hours he said not to farm any boss at all, fine we did that, what do you expect? How could we know that we were abusing the rules if we listened to the GM.

Admin have to make for every fucking shit an annoucement? Fucking read the rules. They knew it's bugged. They still killed Barakiel many times and abused the bug with or without an admin annoucement, pls stfu now. Anyway the Thread should be renamed to Abusing Bugs, because they wasn't the only ones that abused the Respawn-Bug like DevilsHorde, Russian and other.

Edit: Lagsy should check the Logs for the Epics and Barakiel Quest Item and delete the Items + reset Noblesse status. Personally i wouldn't care about the exploiter, if they lost 500 Moonstone Shards and other Quest Items, so they finally learn not to abuse every fucking shit.

Natsumi · November 04, 2009, 10:32:36 AM

Quote from: Lionna on November 04, 2009, 10:11:18 AM
Quote from: Spinxas on November 04, 2009, 03:22:42 AM
There are many screens that shows to everyone that we killed it so you think i should hite it? You are QQing now becouse we PKed you and you whined for pt is that it? We obeyd the GM, he said not to farm Epics we did so, after few hours he said not to farm any boss at all, fine we did that, what do you expect? How could we know that we were abusing the rules if we listened to the GM.

Admin have to make for every fucking shit an annoucement? Fucking read the rules. They knew it's bugged. They still killed Barakiel many times and abused the bug with or without an admin annoucement, pls stfu now. Anyway the Thread should be renamed to Abusing Bugs, because they wasn't the only ones that abused the Respawn-Bug like DevilsHorde, Russian and other.

Edit: Lagsy should check the Logs for the Epics and Barakiel Quest Item and delete the Items + reset Noblesse status. Personally i wouldn't care about the exploiter, if they lost 500 Moonstone Shards and other Quest Items, so they finally learn not to abuse every fucking shit.

barakiel is not a epic so... ;* and why cry you scary or what? :O

Garnett · November 04, 2009, 10:38:29 AM

Quote from: Natsumi on November 04, 2009, 10:32:36 AM

barakiel is not a epic so... ;* and why cry you scary or what? :O

how can you be so retarded?
1.3 Take advantage of the server bugs (including geodata flaws).
even if gm made an announcement about epics it was OBVIOUS that ppl are not allowed to USE SERVER BUGS,is it clear or u need a draw like for kids?

mindiuse · November 04, 2009, 10:55:25 AM

Quote from: Garnett on November 04, 2009, 10:38:29 AM
Quote from: Natsumi on November 04, 2009, 10:32:36 AM

barakiel is not a epic so... ;* and why cry you scary or what? :O
how can you be so retarded?
1.3 Take advantage of the server bugs (including geodata flaws).
even if gm made an announcement about epics it was OBVIOUS that ppl are not allowed to USE SERVER BUGS,is it clear or u need a draw like for kids?

wipe ;o

Alkaz · November 04, 2009, 11:27:32 AM

Barakiel respawn: bug
Exploit bugs: sanctions

So, exploiters will have sanctions
QED

Now if you need rulz for every bug..

mindiuse · November 04, 2009, 11:29:55 AM

Quote from: Alkaz on November 04, 2009, 11:27:32 AM
Barakiel respawn: bug
Exploit bugs: sanctions

So, exploiters will have sanctions
QED

Now if you need rulz for every bug..

Or meybe we used hacks to summon barakiels omg omg

PwnInYourFace · November 04, 2009, 11:35:14 AM

ban > cry more > bb RedTards

Izlude · November 04, 2009, 11:41:42 AM

People in the ETC clan were talking in Hero chat about how they broke several S grade by trying to over-up it. You're going to sit here and tell me that only RW abused this? I think it's a bit too much of a coincidence that people in your clan had all of this S grade to throw away from attempts to OE during a raid boss respawn bug.

This is how I think it went down;

ETC abuses raids. Doesn't really tell anyone, figures why should we? This is great. RW shows up. Now RW knows of the respawning too. ETC does not like the idea of RW catching up to them by abusing the same bug, I mean hell. ETC is already ahead, right? Don't need this shit! Report bug on the forums, repeatedly accuse RW of abusing the bug but of course deny any actual involvement themselves.

ETC looks like some kind of server hero in exchange for RW looking like the bad guys. Please.

You're right, punishers should be punished, but you might want to think twice before you ask GM's to check logs because I'm sure they'll find all sorts of goodies to butcher both clans.

Not to be the big conspiracy theorist here but get real. It doesn't add up when a clan of people find a bug like this, hasn't been reported before, and be saints about it and report it and never abuse it. It's not really within human nature.

It's clever how Jacky himself said that ETC was going to "keep abusing this bug if it's not announced that they no longer can." implying that ETC already had their fill before they pulled this stunt. I would quote it but I've got work in a little bit, if you feel this is in wrongful cause I'll find the quote when I get back.

ETC is as guilty as RW. Don't pull this bullshit of "oh you didn't know, raid bosses respawning instantly lol that's obviously not right u fucktard" because that applies more to ETC than it ever did to RW in this situation.

Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?

RW abusing rules

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