3rd pt programs

hello · October 14, 2010, 12:33:30 AM

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3U61M9H7

anti backstab

MichaelV · October 14, 2010, 12:49:38 AM

A video of someone using antibackstab? Think it's time to dust of the ban hammer, it's been quite a few days.

But first, the video is unavailable...

hello · October 14, 2010, 12:50:53 AM

spam refresh!

http://www.filefront.com/17385080/antistab.avi

use this if it still doesnt work

MichaelV · October 14, 2010, 12:59:30 AM

I managed to take it and see it. Please send me a longer video of that fight, not just a few seconds. I suppose you have a video of that whole fight. Send it to my pm if you don't want it to be public.

losiakus · October 14, 2010, 01:00:34 AM

You kiding me?

MichaelV · October 14, 2010, 01:04:54 AM

Is there a problem?
I can tell you the reasoning too, i want to see if it happens more then once. It's not impossible for a coincidence to happen, for him to turn for *casting random skill/doing random action* (which is odd, cause neither happened; but he might have tried to cast a skill on an unflagged person without force attack). So it's simple, i want to see the full fight so i can take the best decision.

clans · October 14, 2010, 01:10:18 AM

Quote from: MichaelV on October 14, 2010, 01:04:54 AM
Is there a problem?
I can tell you the reasoning too, i want to see if it happens more then once. It's not impossible for a coincidence to happen, for him to turn for *casting random skill/doing random action* (which is odd, cause neither happened; but he might have tried to cast a skill on an unflagged person without force attack). So it's simple, i want to see the full fight so i can take the best decision.

The thing is, PainRedefined was on hide, and there was no-one else near him when he backstabbed for the first time.

MichaelV · October 14, 2010, 01:16:38 AM

Yes, you are right. But i would like to see the full fight just to be sure. Shouldn't be a problem posting it, no?

Arcain · October 14, 2010, 01:21:51 AM

Geez, QQ lost 4 fights today and started accusing us of cheats? Didn't expected you using such pathetic excuse.

hello · October 14, 2010, 01:22:21 AM

Quote from: MichaelV on October 14, 2010, 01:16:38 AM
Yes, you are right. But i would like to see the full fight just to be sure. Shouldn't be a problem posting it, no?

he's rendering it, ill post it when its uploaded

MichaelV · October 14, 2010, 01:27:48 AM

Ok, thank you.

vans · October 14, 2010, 01:28:43 AM

Quote from: Arcain on October 14, 2010, 01:21:51 AM
Geez, QQ lost 4 fights today and started accusing us of cheats? Didn't expected you using such pathetic excuse.

are you blind or you are too stupid to see this?

Arcain · October 14, 2010, 01:33:34 AM

I'm not blind, i'm just 100% sure he's not using any 3rd party soft, just like the rest of our party. If you're looking for excuses like this because you lost i feel sorry for that. Go, post all 4 frapses how you lost, will be fun to watch.

Tiax · October 14, 2010, 01:34:42 AM

You got busted - face it..

losiakus · October 14, 2010, 01:36:20 AM

Quote from: Arcain on October 14, 2010, 01:33:34 AM
I'm not blind, i'm just 100% sure he's not using any 3rd party soft, just like the rest of our party. If you're looking for excuses like this because you lost i feel sorry for that. Go, post all 4 frapses how you lost, will be fun to watch.

And whole AFL was sure P1nk doesnt use ranger.

Yes gratz

BagDad · October 14, 2010, 01:36:43 AM

who the fuck are u ? Lolifant ? upload those 4 fights wanna see my pro dual box skills from different perspecitve.

hello · October 14, 2010, 01:39:08 AM

lollifant doesn't play l2

vans · October 14, 2010, 01:40:07 AM

Quote from: Arcain on October 14, 2010, 01:33:34 AM
I'm not blind, i'm just 100% sure he's not using any 3rd party soft, just like the rest of our party. If you're looking for excuses like this because you lost i feel sorry for that. Go, post all 4 frapses how you lost, will be fun to watch.

why you telling? like i was fighting in this fights?? they dont need to post those "4 fights"....because is already funny

Arcain · October 14, 2010, 01:40:36 AM

To be busted he would actually had to use anything. Since he didn't, it's just some random crap of some raging guy after 4 diffrent 9v9 lost in a row.

I'm preety sure that if i looked all the frapses posted in media category carefully i would find more issues like this.

MichaelV · October 14, 2010, 01:46:32 AM

Quote from: Arcain on October 14, 2010, 01:40:36 AM
Since he didn't

I'm sorry, but this is a null argument. I would be happy if you can come up with a reasonable explanation to his behavior in the video posted.

Edit:
Stop flaming. Until a decision is reached, please, only the accuser and victim are to be posting.
Anyone else, don't make me use the ban hammer.

Arcain · October 14, 2010, 01:50:12 AM

Quote from: MichaelV on October 14, 2010, 01:46:32 AM
Quote from: Arcain on October 14, 2010, 01:40:36 AM
Since he didn't
I'm sorry, but this is a null argument. I would be happy if you can come up with a reasonable explanation to his behavior in the video posted.

I can't explain that just as i can't explain people hitting daggers on hide during oly by using next target. You know very well it happends sometimes. I'd be glad to see that whole pvp and i'm sure it'll proove he's not using anything. Look closer at this, why he turned only during the first backstab and not the second? It can be either texture bug, some random issue and or just coincidence.

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tell us which random crap program he using then?

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MichaelV · October 14, 2010, 01:52:52 AM

Quote from: Arcain on October 14, 2010, 01:50:12 AM
I can't explain that just as i can't explain people hitting daggers on hide during oly by using next target. You know very well it happends sometimes. I'd be glad to see that whole pvp and i'm sure it'll proove he's innocent.

No, it never happened by using "next target". It SUPPOSEDLY happened once, but after we discussed, we reached the conclusion that it's the same bug since for ever. He was using force attack in conjunction with next target, after having the dagger in target before doing hide. And it happened only because of force attacking.
So, as you see, everything can be explained : )

I am still waiting.

kaid · October 14, 2010, 01:57:59 AM

I watched this short movie, I also do find it strange I turned around, from what I see must've been a problem with geodata - I turned around after a small rising ended, then again, another 2 blows the dagger user gave me went through without and turning around issues - as well as all other blows duirng the pvps. I propose to analize all pvp footage (all fights at best during this day) to make sure I did not use any 3rd party programs.

Btw thanks for the pvp, was fun.

Cheers

MichaelV · October 14, 2010, 02:11:55 AM

I know there is a spot at chimeras with geodata problems and there might be others too, but i checked the one seen in the video and it's perfect, no problem. And furthermore, i don't know of any geodata problem that would cause your char to fully stop and turn around, coincidently perfectly facing your attacker. All logic points to one thing. I suppose you know what that is, right?

P.S. full video coming soon? I am kinda tired you know : (

kaid · October 14, 2010, 02:19:24 AM

I don't know how the programs such as anti-backstab work, but I believe, they have a common pattern of working, and one could check log files to be sure what command exactly was given from my side, but then again, would be alot easier to check whole pvp footage. I did not use any 3rd party programs, this short video does look very suspicious, I wonder myself what exactly happened, that's why checking the whole pvp video would give the best proof of my innocence.