Question about STR on Daggers

[Guardian]

Exactly, thats how blows work. A no grade dagger and a vesper one both deal exactly the same dmg from blows. On high rate servers where there are mana pots daggers don't even buff might, etc. cause that's a buff slot that could be used for a resist or something more useful. So the most important thing on a dagger is the SA (CD preferably or back blow).  
Unless they changed this in newer chronicles, I'm 100% right.

Nice comparison rpg with some l2j buggeland

[babyface]

A no grade dagger and a vesper one both deal exactly the same dmg from blows.

gratz

[KnGhtmRe]

well let see -500hp for +5 speed and 10crit rate yeah it's fucking worth................not

+evasion +atk.spd.

[Lvnatic]

Dagger is a rogue, he hits and run, that's why he's fast and has reduced protection, he doesn't go in the middle of an open fight and stays there, that's what tanks are for. He blows, he's gone. NC made him like that, and it's the best way it can be played. +4dex+4con-8str is the most epic fail build a dagger could get, ever! You also don't need too much dex, cause from behind you land almost any blow, if you waste mana on blows from the front, better reroll on a different class. If you don't believe the things I said about the stats, I dun give a sh1t. If p.atk has ever had any influence on the blow dmg, it's very very insignificant, but str does. Make a fuking test. Try -8 str and then +8 str, you'll notice a difference of thousands of damage. Then try with a no grade dagger, then with a S one, you'll notice a very small difference, if not at all. Most important thing on a knife is the  CD SA IMHO.

[Guardian]

Dagger is a rogue, he hits and run, that's why he's fast and has reduced protection, he doesn't go in the middle of an open fight and stays there, that's what tanks are for. He blows, he's gone. NC made him like that, and it's the best way it can be played. +4dex+4con-8str is the most epic fail build a dagger could get, ever! You also don't need too much dex, cause from behind you land almost any blow, if you waste mana on blows from the front, better reroll on a different class. If you don't believe the things I said about the stats, I dun give a sh1t. If p.atk has ever had any influence on the blow dmg, it's very very insignificant, but str does. Make a fuking test. Try -8 str and then +8 str, you'll notice a difference of thousands of damage. Then try with a no grade dagger, then with a S one, you'll notice a very small difference, if not at all. Most important thing on a knife is the  CD SA IMHO.

u mad ?

[KayKay]

then +8 str,

readed this, started laughing.

[babyface]

then +8 str,

ye cool one

[Lokocz]

Dagger is a rogue, he hits and run, that's why he's fast and has reduced protection, he doesn't go in the middle of an open fight and stays there, that's what tanks are for. He blows, he's gone. NC made him like that, and it's the best way it can be played. +4dex+4con-8str is the most epic fail build a dagger could get, ever! You also don't need too much dex, cause from behind you land almost any blow, if you waste mana on blows from the front, better reroll on a different class. If you don't believe the things I said about the stats, I dun give a sh1t. If p.atk has ever had any influence on the blow dmg, it's very very insignificant, but str does. Make a fuking test. Try -8 str and then +8 str, you'll notice a difference of thousands of damage. Then try with a no grade dagger, then with a S one, you'll notice a very small difference, if not at all. Most important thing on a knife is the  CD SA IMHO.

+12 STR is ok?

[Gezas]

lets make it  +17, why stop at low numbers!

[Lvnatic]

It was just an example fart faces, to see how huge the difference is.

[Raikiri]

It was just an example fart faces, to see how huge the difference is.

The problem is you cant put more than +5 on any stat. I mean yes, you can, but wont have any effect.

[hello]

you can, pl set and +4 str dyes

[Raikiri]

you can, pl set and +4 str dyes

Sure, you can use pated set, and put +5 str too, so it will be +9 str, but he talkd about dyes, not about set bonus.

[Lvnatic]

you can, pl set and +4 str dyes

Sure, you can use pated set, and put +5 str too, so it will be +9 str, but he talkd about dyes, not about set bonus.

Yes I did indeed, my bad sry for that, but you got my point.

[hello]

you can, pl set and +4 str dyes

Sure, you can use pated set, and put +5 str too, so it will be +9 str, but he talkd about dyes, not about set bonus.

that's not the point, point is you can test with +8 STR and -8 STR (even tho he was wrong in his initial post about p atk/str influence)

[zosiek]

my view on lol pw when i firstly tried +5 str w/o pl at lvl 74 when i got eva chance:
buffed eva chance mortal strike and went stabing npc
had mana for like 12 stabs
first 4 were crits
and 7 crits total in those 12 tries
tried it a lot times and it was like 45% stab crit chance

never tested it again with assasi

i left my pw w/ +5str-con cos of it and a fact i got a lot more to farm and these r good for this