Need a suggetion about subs :)

[oXo]

so i could start subbing WL, get CP boost then create an other WL/DESTRO and exp a BD sub? xD but maybe even active BD (i wanted to sub sws but...i'm a "stupid" dark elf -..-'') with a wolf could be good and funny too.

[Gezas]

if i were you i'd start with celestial

[oXo]

if i were you i'd start with celestial

maybe i should...but i'm interested in trying an AOE   btw....WL or Destro? [i'd have bd/wc as buffers i think..both need to be 3rd classed even if they are high enough to get 3rd]
ah,  BD exped active or with a new WL/Destro? i fear i'd be bored to have 2 similar or even same chars

[KeyserSoze]

i noticed that almost everything not working as "chance" would give me something like ... 10? 15? as bonus on some stat...maybe CP is the best thing atm, but i'd have to start to pvp a bit more than xD
summoner's skill could be nice but as far as i read it's activated only if u're under attack....at least UD would be a bit more useful maybe (or maybe both active as same time )
btw i read some1 is used to exp aoe with his Sts? how and where? till now i never considered "aoe" as a useful mage's way to exp O.o''  (or maybe the AOE is killing angels in temple )

In my old server we xped almost everyone with mage AoE. Usually PI, but i have made successful parties also in FoG and IT (mini boss rooms if you know the spot). Never tried in Pagan's or MoS but usually there we did fighter aoe parties (titan or dreadnaught). Our usual setup was 2 mages (best is MM coz of casting), cardi, SWS 77+, SD  78, rechers (usually out of party ) magnus tank for the pulls and if available an OL for root/winter/silence etc. almost every time we had some leecher xping in party. i xped 2 subs from 62 to 75 in 10 hour max each (server rate was x3, Hellbound). we actually made a clan Domi from 78 to 80 in 3 8hour xp sessions there

[oXo]

In my old server we xped almost everyone with mage AoE. Usually PI, but i have made successful parties also in FoG and IT (mini boss rooms if you know the spot). Never tried in Pagan's or MoS but usually there we did fighter aoe parties (titan or dreadnaught). Our usual setup was 2 mages (best is MM coz of casting), cardi, SWS 77+, SD  78, rechers (usually out of party ) magnus tank for the pulls and if available an OL for root/winter/silence etc. almost every time we had some leecher xping in party. i xped 2 subs from 62 to 75 in 10 hour max each (server rate was x3, Hellbound). we actually made a clan Domi from 78 to 80 in 3 8hour xp sessions there

i did the same on my old c4 server in IT (even if it was not aoe, just big party to keep a room's spawn).  btw...2 mages so +- 4 rechargers to keep mana always full?  or maybe 5 for the OL?

[hello]

if i were you i'd start with celestial

mb sub glad for pew pew sub skill?

[KeyserSoze]

In my old server we xped almost everyone with mage AoE. Usually PI, but i have made successful parties also in FoG and IT (mini boss rooms if you know the spot). Never tried in Pagan's or MoS but usually there we did fighter aoe parties (titan or dreadnaught). Our usual setup was 2 mages (best is MM coz of casting), cardi, SWS 77+, SD  78, rechers (usually out of party ) magnus tank for the pulls and if available an OL for root/winter/silence etc. almost every time we had some leecher xping in party. i xped 2 subs from 62 to 75 in 10 hour max each (server rate was x3, Hellbound). we actually made a clan Domi from 78 to 80 in 3 8hour xp sessions there

i did the same on my old c4 server in IT (even if it was not aoe, just big party to keep a room's spawn).  btw...2 mages so +- 4 rechargers to keep mana always full?  or maybe 5 for the OL?

actually, usually 2 rechers were enough (we had in clan many 79+ ES). AoE skills do take more mp but they kill more mobs too

[Arken]

actually, usually 2 rechers were enough (we had in clan many 79+ ES). AoE skills do take more mp but they kill more mobs too

Actually only 1 recher (me) Eva's saint 81 with full stucked ++ skills , anthy tezza and the knowdlege what to do , was always almost enough.

p.s. xai afro.

[Helldude]

What abouts bd?

i was thinking: Gladiator / Paladin / Ghost Hunter?

im right? ¬¬

[Arken]

What abouts bd?

i was thinking: Gladiator / Paladin / Ghost Hunter?

im right? ¬¬

Ghost hunter for what ? increase bow range ? :~

[Helldude]

What abouts bd?

i was thinking: Gladiator / Paladin / Ghost Hunter?

im right? ¬¬

Ghost hunter for what ? increase bow range ? :~

Nah i just show what sub going to take, any suggestion or change?..

why gh? bcoz they are pretty awesome *_*

[Russinha]

warrior + enchanter + insert a desired sub here.

U already have ur mage to PEWPEW so ...

[venduj]

what about taking summoner 75 trigger skill and the rest  passive mattack ++ ( from all subs ) ? on storm screamer

[ssj]

mostly u dont use subskills to powerup highnumbered skills imo

so no p attack m attack

[Deathwish]

what about taking summoner 75 trigger skill and the rest  passive mattack ++ ( from all subs ) ? on storm screamer

Storm Screamer with 8k m.atk ... dont seems that 250 m.atk will make much differance, but 250 m.def to your 1500 is pritty much boost

[Alkaz]

Celestial, Summoner spirite, and cp boost (or counter ud, but enjoy overbuff)

[Russinha]

i have celestial and UD on my bish and never got overbuffed ....

maybe cause they always stealing ma buffs?

[Helldude]

which sub's a cardinal should take any1 can tell me?

[nkRwz]

sws ))

[Deathwish]

which sub's a cardinal should take any1 can tell me?

IMO,CP+HP+enchanter barrier or tank UD or summoner elemental resistance
CP ofc for pvp, HP can save you if you got backstab or stun, it can realy save you.
enchanter barrier is very nice if it poped up, but the problem is thet you will be unable to heal self for that period, and since it pops up under attack pritty often it hapends when you have a few HP left.
tank UD is nice if poped up, but still problem that it popup under attack.
Ofc +5 to elments are not much, but its more then 0, it can save from 150 weapons

[Jacky]

i have celestial and UD on my bish and never got overbuffed ....

maybe cause they always stealing ma buffs?

Maybe because u dont know all skills?...lol

anyway to topic : u must go Celestial, CP boost, Summoner  spirit. (and Mdef from emergency ablilities)

[Russinha]

overbuff happens, but there is a reason u change the buff order and cancel buffs.

[Jacky]

overbuff happens, but there is a reason u change the buff order and cancel buffs.

clueless as always once u will have trully full buff u will notice that...u didnt have it single once on Gracia Final I can bet on it.

[Kiu]

if i cancel sub, will i lose my subskills?
ty

[Seno]

if i cancel sub, will i lose my subskills?
ty

no! thats why u see ppl around subbing spoilers