Flame Lord Barakiel

Shunt · October 02, 2009, 08:27:24 PM

Last two raids it hasn't moved when ETC have attempted to kill it, somehow it's either being bugged/abused by them or something wrong with server configuration. Neither the raid boss or raid fighters attack it making it a very easy kill.

Please look into it.

Stoum · October 02, 2009, 08:43:47 PM

Hero bers pwnd barakiel. It works on official servers, far as I know.

Jacky · October 02, 2009, 08:46:16 PM

Quote from: Stoum on October 02, 2009, 08:43:47 PM
Hero bers pwnd barakiel. It works on official servers, far as I know.

Ofc it works, its game feature not bug.

sEEEEb · October 02, 2009, 08:46:59 PM

Quote from: Shunt on October 02, 2009, 08:27:24 PM
Last two raids it hasn't moved when ETC have attempted to kill it, somehow it's either being bugged/abused by them or something wrong with server configuration. Neither the raid boss or raid fighters attack it making it a very easy kill.

Please look into it.

Everything works as it should, you're just another cry kid who did get it and doesn't know what going on.

Stoum · October 02, 2009, 08:52:52 PM

Quote from: Jacky on October 02, 2009, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: Stoum on October 02, 2009, 08:43:47 PM
Hero bers pwnd barakiel. It works on official servers, far as I know.
Ofc it works, its game feature not bug.

Mb, mb not. Doesnt matters, it will not be changed.

Shunt · October 02, 2009, 08:55:31 PM

Quote from: seb2 on October 02, 2009, 08:46:59 PM
Quote from: Shunt on October 02, 2009, 08:27:24 PM
Last two raids it hasn't moved when ETC have attempted to kill it, somehow it's either being bugged/abused by them or something wrong with server configuration. Neither the raid boss or raid fighters attack it making it a very easy kill.

Please look into it.
Everything works as it should, you're just another cry kid who did get it and doesn't know what going on.

I don't care too much for the drama, nor that Hero berserker does a shit load of damage against him, but he shouldn't be IDLE while being hit, that seems way too easy for it to be legit.

Do you mean heroic dread? (the fear one?) I dont understand why heroic berserker, which is a self buff that just basically increases dps, would affect the mob ai; and even then is heroic dread supposed to work on raids to this extent?

Stoum · October 02, 2009, 09:05:03 PM

QuoteDo you mean heroic dread? (the fear one?) I dont understand why heroic berserker, which is a self buff that just basically increases dps, would affect the mob ai; and even then is heroic dread supposed to work on raids to this extent?

heroic berserker also have effect of immunity to any magic.

Shunt · October 02, 2009, 09:06:02 PM

Quote from: Stoum on October 02, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
QuoteDo you mean heroic dread? (the fear one?) I dont understand why heroic berserker, which is a self buff that just basically increases dps, would affect the mob ai; and even then is heroic dread supposed to work on raids to this extent?
heroic berserker also have effect of immunity to any magic.

Don't think you understand what I mean by idle. The raid boss isn't simply doing zero damage to him with magic, it's NOT MOVING. Neither is it's raid fighters. For some odd reason it's completely oblivious to the fact it's being attacked, which means that it is beyond and easy kill.

Hildr · October 02, 2009, 09:20:45 PM

Quote from: Stoum on October 02, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
heroic berserker also have effect of immunity to any magic.

Does it? Since when? I suppose it makes you shit lightning now too?

Silly claims aside. Considering 2 days ago ETC couldn't pull bara off without wiping 3+ times per run I'm guessing it's a hero skill. In particular I'm assuming it's heroic dread somehow fearing the mobs, no idea at all if it's supposed to work on raids so I won't say it's bugged, but my question is if it is indeed heroic dread then how comes the mobs don't run away? I can think of no reason at all why the mob ai would switch to idle for the entire duration it takes to kill barakiel, 100% of the time (because they all switch to idle at the same time, initially, you never see 1 raid minion hitting beforehand) on the past 2 kills.

Stoum · October 02, 2009, 09:43:52 PM

Quote from: Shunt on October 02, 2009, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: Stoum on October 02, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
QuoteDo you mean heroic dread? (the fear one?) I dont understand why heroic berserker, which is a self buff that just basically increases dps, would affect the mob ai; and even then is heroic dread supposed to work on raids to this extent?
heroic berserker also have effect of immunity to any magic.

Don't think you understand what I mean by idle. The raid boss isn't simply doing zero damage to him with magic, it's NOT MOVING. Neither is it's raid fighters. For some odd reason it's completely oblivious to the fact it's being attacked, which means that it is beyond and easy kill.

I understand. See how it happens: heroes attacking RB, chars are 80+, so RB muts debuff them with raid curse, W/O ATTACKING THEM. BUT, they have heroic bers in buffs, so they cant feel its effect on them.

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Does it? Since when? I suppose it makes you shit lightning now too?

I dont know, how it works exactly, but its a fact, that raid curse cant be imposed on hero bers.

P.S. sry for my english, i know that its rough in some places

Corkscreewe · October 02, 2009, 09:46:18 PM

Quote from: Stoum on October 02, 2009, 09:43:52 PM
I understand. See how it happens: heroes attacking RB, chars are 80+, so RB muts debuff them with raid curse, W/O ATTACKING THEM. BUT, they have heroic bers in buffs, so they cant feel its effect on them.

this

Shunt · October 02, 2009, 09:48:14 PM

Seems pretty bugged, so basically any hero can go rape any raid 7 levels or below it for free? Doesn't seem like the intended use.

Hildr · October 02, 2009, 09:48:33 PM

Then how comes it drops items when it dies? Barakiel dropped 5 angelic essence earlier on which makes no sense because had they been the 9 levels above barakiel to get raid curse, and then the raid cursing without attacking like you say, and berserker providing debuff immunity (as for my post above I thought you was going offtopic and meant general damage magic as well, not just debuff res) and everything panning out cool, it shouldn't have dropped any items at all.

Stoum · October 02, 2009, 09:54:51 PM

Quote from: Hildr on October 02, 2009, 09:48:33 PM
(as for my post above I thought you was going offtopic and meant general damage magic as well, not just debuff res) and everything panning out cool, it shouldn't have dropped any items at all.

My bad

About drop: they are very lucky i think

Cuz chanse is very small, but not =0.

gratz · October 02, 2009, 09:56:41 PM

OLOLOLOL NICE TOPIC

gratz

Shunt · October 02, 2009, 10:07:37 PM

~~Did some research and apparently it is a bug, raid curse is special and shouldn't be resisted by debuff res. Can we get GM confirmation that raid curse is supposed to be blocked by berserk?~~

Nevermind, it's legit - meant to be like this apparently.

greennight · October 02, 2009, 10:11:45 PM

log in on retail and you will se how is lvl 85 grand kebab hero killing barakiel under 30s .
so dunno where you did that research ,maybe on some l2j forums ,but this is how it should be

ptsd · October 02, 2009, 11:17:36 PM

Shunt wtf? u are ---censored---

ve3k · October 02, 2009, 11:26:11 PM

hope that this will solve the issue:

Chris · October 02, 2009, 11:52:27 PM

LoL at L2j players. As someone explained the boss constantly try to debuff the hero but the hero zerk gives him inmunity, simply as that.

KissOfEva · October 03, 2009, 12:20:20 AM

RTFM guys RTFM...

Iblis · October 03, 2009, 12:33:51 AM

lul MANY clueless ppl

Shunt · October 03, 2009, 01:18:36 AM

Almost as clueless as the da who decided to use light armor in oly because of the stab reductions.

sEEEEb · October 03, 2009, 01:25:38 AM

WeBugBaraAllDay.

Awpolt · October 03, 2009, 01:39:25 AM

Seems like a lot of people here have never played on Official

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