Drop rates have been changed?

Started by Nerz, April 16, 2010, 06:06:42 AM

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baho

I'm pretty sure the chance remained x3 and the amount has been set to 1-5.
All are mistaken about russians using l2r, explanation is a lot simpler:
Quote from: roszak on December 08, 2010, 09:52:40 PMamericans are fat and never go out, so they have pathetic hand-eye and overall coordination. we do lots of sports (karate in my case) so we are healthy and fit, and that benefits in computer games as well.
KARAAAAAAAAATE

aYotech

Spoil is x5 on everything?

Sounds ridiculous to me, I thought it was only gonna be mats. Not enchants, parts, and so on.

EWS price is gonna drop from 40kk which was allready stupid low, to less than 5 mill. if it hasn't allready. same for am heads and every other part.

BackfromDead

and draconic bow shafts will go for npc shop lol

dani3l

#53
i get 3x-5x mats amount not 5x all time...and sometimes i get wierd rates...11 mats on mob that spoil 1-3 mats..what rate is that?

baho

Quote from: dani3l on April 16, 2010, 08:59:41 PM
i get 3x-5x mats amount not 5x all time...and sometimes i get wierd rates...11 mats on mob that spoil 1-3 mats..what rate is that?
Because he made the amount something like 1-5 (u get from 1 up to 5 mats per mob) but kept the 3x chance to balance this out. U got 11 mats cause the mob originally had 1-3 and after amount increase it would be 1-15 or something like that. Anyway, the spoil is much better now and although not a perfect setup, it is ok.
EXCEPT for one thing! Making this change for all items in spoil is a bad idea. This change should've been done only on basic materials. There will be a LOT more enchants/recipes on market from spoil now, their prices will go down quite a lot. Pretty sure it's not a good thing. At least, not for the nolifers :)
All are mistaken about russians using l2r, explanation is a lot simpler:
Quote from: roszak on December 08, 2010, 09:52:40 PMamericans are fat and never go out, so they have pathetic hand-eye and overall coordination. we do lots of sports (karate in my case) so we are healthy and fit, and that benefits in computer games as well.
KARAAAAAAAAATE

dani3l

Quote from: baho on April 16, 2010, 09:06:11 PM
Quote from: dani3l on April 16, 2010, 08:59:41 PM
i get 3x-5x mats amount not 5x all time...and sometimes i get wierd rates...11 mats on mob that spoil 1-3 mats..what rate is that?
Because he made the amount something like 1-5 (u get from 1 up to 5 mats per mob) but kept the 3x chance to balance this out. U got 11 mats cause the mob originally had 1-3 and after amount increase it would be 1-15 or something like that. Anyway, the spoil is much better now and although not a perfect setup, it is ok.
EXCEPT for one thing! Making this change for all items in spoil is a bad idea. This change should've been done only on basic materials. There will be a LOT more enchants/recipes on market from spoil now, their prices will go down quite a lot. Pretty sure it's not a good thing. At least, not for the nolifers :)
i had a brain fart..realised why i got 11 mats a minute or two after post..damn u posted before i could cover my ass :D

Eze

Lol let them be with those 5x on everything... I personally dont want to spend a week in FoG or elsewhere spoiling AM heads like a maggot when i/we can have it done in a day for 3 tryies...
Back in action..... . ... .. . . .. ಠ_ಠ

BackfromDead


KOFE

In IoP are chance to evil shar 20-25% in 1x rate, i drop from 20 mobs 4 shards, seriously this is not 5x rate

baho

You mean this Black Seed of Evil - Shard ?
This is a quest item for S80 parts. Quests for everything above S grade are x1 and will continue to be this way.
All are mistaken about russians using l2r, explanation is a lot simpler:
Quote from: roszak on December 08, 2010, 09:52:40 PMamericans are fat and never go out, so they have pathetic hand-eye and overall coordination. we do lots of sports (karate in my case) so we are healthy and fit, and that benefits in computer games as well.
KARAAAAAAAAATE

Anna

mats drop ammount were changed back to 1x?

yday i was getting 3 CL by drop, now only one again.

Tears ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿

Quote from: Шабака on April 16, 2010, 07:13:26 PM
spoil amount x5
drop chance x5

Its not dificult to make a FULL post with all the info.. What about spoil chance? Its also x5?

If the Spoil chance/Amount is x5 always is just crazy... Have to be just the chance. if is just the amount, omg worst..

Should be like l2js imo.

Spoil x5 only in chance, and amount based in % after the x5 multiplication..

If a x1 spoil its 100%, then the amount will be x5 (500%)
if a x1 spoil its 20%, then the amount will be x1 (100%)

What about normal drop amount? its still x5?.. Its this only mats? or apply to fabrics, enchants, etc?


KOFE

Quote from: baho on April 16, 2010, 09:51:48 PM
You mean this Black Seed of Evil - Shard ?
This is a quest item for S80 parts. Quests for everything above S grade are x1 and will continue to be this way.
Yellow shard are in base trop stat, its no in Q items, i mean in IoP are all drop rates 1x, btw FS 12Mx5=60M?

baho

Quote from: KOFE on April 16, 2010, 10:16:24 PM
Yellow shard are in base trop stat, its no in Q items, i mean in IoP are all drop rates 1x, btw FS 12Mx5=60M?
Yellow seed of evil shard: http://www.graciafinal.com/#db.item.main.9593#
Where do u see it droping from any mob? It's a QUEST ITEM!

Alternatively, check a couple of IoP mobs:
Naiad http://www.graciafinal.com/#db.monster.main.22262#
Castalia http://www.graciafinal.com/#db.monster.main.22264#

Where do u see in their droplist such items?
All are mistaken about russians using l2r, explanation is a lot simpler:
Quote from: roszak on December 08, 2010, 09:52:40 PMamericans are fat and never go out, so they have pathetic hand-eye and overall coordination. we do lots of sports (karate in my case) so we are healthy and fit, and that benefits in computer games as well.
KARAAAAAAAAATE

KOFE

Quote from: baho on April 16, 2010, 10:22:09 PM
Quote from: KOFE on April 16, 2010, 10:16:24 PM
Yellow shard are in base trop stat, its no in Q items, i mean in IoP are all drop rates 1x, btw FS 12Mx5=60M?
Yellow seed of evil shard: http://www.graciafinal.com/#db.item.main.9593#
Where do u see it droping from any mob? It's a QUEST ITEM!

Alternatively, check a couple of IoP mobs:
Naiad http://www.graciafinal.com/#db.monster.main.22262#
Castalia http://www.graciafinal.com/#db.monster.main.22264#

Where do u see in their droplist such items? >>> Ingame

baho

You're clearly too smart to hold a conversation with. Your arguments are flawless.
All are mistaken about russians using l2r, explanation is a lot simpler:
Quote from: roszak on December 08, 2010, 09:52:40 PMamericans are fat and never go out, so they have pathetic hand-eye and overall coordination. we do lots of sports (karate in my case) so we are healthy and fit, and that benefits in computer games as well.
KARAAAAAAAAATE

Tomasi

Are u serious with this spoil changed? Every enchants, keymats, recipes are x5 by spoil... gz.................. ???

Brus

#67
Indeed x5 AMOUNT is quite stupid idea.....wellcome to EnchantingAge. In 1 month 50 S weapons +16 and tonz of sets +6.
Chance x5 and amount x5 are really different things.Just when i think that 1 party can make 1 S craft per day and spoil 10 EWS for less than hour...
And about iop i don`t know about Shards if have to be x1 or x5 , but Elemental stones has nothing to do with S80 and drop could be x5 CHANCE not x1.But since no one made the hard thing to Post a topic with exact changes i doubt to pay attention on "our cries".If fixing this will take another month and half it will be quite too late :)

baho

How do u know the stones don't have x5 chance? Did u consult the oracle or what?
All are mistaken about russians using l2r, explanation is a lot simpler:
Quote from: roszak on December 08, 2010, 09:52:40 PMamericans are fat and never go out, so they have pathetic hand-eye and overall coordination. we do lots of sports (karate in my case) so we are healthy and fit, and that benefits in computer games as well.
KARAAAAAAAAATE

Brus

#69
avarage drop of FS 1/600 on x1 -> x5 it`s ~1/120 for 1 round i kill atleast 100 mobs and get 1 FS usually for about  4 rounds.Even if we include Luck/unluck sh1t it`s too rare.Maybe i`m wrong but since there aren`t any official announcments for w/e you are not the one that can make me believe drop on iop is x5.
P.S. The abuse with EWS already started....

Nerz

#70
hey again,now that the s**t is done,there's only 1 issue with rates change,I realize that some mobs are difficult to get blue everytime you do activate spoil...what I'm saying is that mobs that were previously easy to spoil now is quite hard to find them blue as it was before,is this any bug from rate change process,or it is on purpose...

Did you felt any difference here or it's just me?

NK^

Something is fucked up now.. 1 db shaft dropped in laba 78 & also from raids only 1 item .. wtf?

Mouarf

Quote from: Brus on April 16, 2010, 11:02:42 PM
Indeed x5 AMOUNT is quite stupid idea.....wellcome to EnchantingAge. In 1 month 50 S weapons +16 and tonz of sets +6.

there was about 2 or 3 weap S +16 on *30 after something like 6month... Spoil mats and ews are *10.
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Brus

Quote from: Mouarf on April 17, 2010, 12:25:00 AM
Quote from: Brus on April 16, 2010, 11:02:42 PM
Indeed x5 AMOUNT is quite stupid idea.....wellcome to EnchantingAge. In 1 month 50 S weapons +16 and tonz of sets +6.

there was about 2 or 3 weap S +16 on *30 after something like 6month... Spoil mats and ews are *10.
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I doubt someone here care for LOL server x30 lol ....
In a "low rate " server that`s supposed to have something hard i don`t think 5 EWS per click is suitable

Mouarf

it can be *10 *50 *100 *4 *2 *8
With spoil amount mats and ews *10 = 6 month for 2 weap S +16( bow and dual )
So dont speak about 50 weap S +16 in 1month with spoil amount / 2


Guys like you are boring... They cry for spoil mats amount *5 because on *5 serv its not 'normal' to spoil 1*mats.
Now its not 'normal' to spoil other things *5.

Its crazy.