sap with donations?

[Hypurr]

I just wonder, do you even know why people play here instead of some private european/us server ?

a) Good files
b) FAIR DONATION.


You just broke rule b) by RUINING THE GAME BALANCE with REMOVING CAKE FOR ADENA.
And BTW this is the first time I see a server doubling the prices of donations after they saw they are making a lot of money. SO LAME. You just DO NOT DO THAT. Nobody DOES. You have a few months to think of a donation system, you announce it, then wait for the server to start and then suddenly TOTALLY CHANGE IT. GF, nice server.

p.s. If this shi.t doesn't go back to its previous state I'm defenenately quitting.

That.

[whocares]

I just wonder, do you even know why people play here instead of some private european/us server ?

a) Good files
b) FAIR DONATION.


You just broke rule b) by RUINING THE GAME BALANCE with REMOVING CAKE FOR ADENA.
And BTW this is the first time I see a server doubling the prices of donations after they saw they are making a lot of money. SO LAME. You just DO NOT DO THAT. Nobody DOES. You have a few months to think of a donation system, you announce it, then wait for the server to start and then suddenly TOTALLY CHANGE IT. GF, nice server.

+1..

[Volume]

its the 30x all over again

[Kewlpwnz1]

QQ? just simple as dont donate and play legit

[Forebear]

its all kewl man.

[6EckYuVk]

i have heard that people are quitting server and recalling any money spent..

admin should change this before other people do this..it will hurt server to be greedy

[Forebear]

Can you say 'Blackmail'?

[MichaelV]

SC for adena was removed because:
1) Later on when adena will be in excess nobody will donate --> no money to pay server bills;
2) Later on when adena will be in excess server will be flooded with cakes and other items from donation shop.

Putting the old prices back for a short period of time is being considered but don't count on it. What i can tell you is that next time something like this happens you will be announced in advance. Sorry for the troubles created.

[goferzo]

SC for adena was removed because:
1) Later on when adena will be in excess nobody will donate --> no money to pay server bills;
2) Later on when adena will be in excess server will be flooded with cakes and other items from donation shop.

Putting the old prices back for a short period of time is being considered but don't count on it. What i can tell you is that next time something like this happens you will be announced in advance. Sorry for the troubles created.

Well, tell the admins(or whoever is responsible for prices) that they are fuktards, who even after delaying server for 2 months, cant think of a good donation system that they dont have to change. SC for adena - ok, can live with that. But we just got ripped of half of the money we donated. They literally STOLE it from us. I dont care if this shit is normal in russia, but its not cool at all. They just fuked up a really nice server.

[SplichO]

Putting the old prices back for a short period of time is being considered but don't count on it. What i can tell you is that next time something like this happens you will be announced in advance. Sorry for the troubles created.

Where is the balance in this? Why so sudden DOUBLE the price for Cakes? Is not like is 10 coins or 20 coins more is DOUBLE? Does administration wants to have reputation such as this one atm?

[MichaelV]

I told you it's being discussed. How about waiting for a decision and after start to complain, ok?

[MightyGrape]

If the decision is made against it there is no point in complaining.......because they wont change it.


MV: whatever the decision there is no point in continue complaining. We understand your complaints after 8 pages, point is made very clear.

[Aibo]

Well, tell the admins(or whoever is responsible for prices) that they are fuktards, who even after delaying server for 2 months, cant think of a good donation system that they dont have to change. SC for adena - ok, can live with that. But we just got ripped of half of the money we donated. They literally STOLE it from us. I dont care if this shit is normal in russia, but its not cool at all. They just fuked up a really nice server.

i know that noone listens to me anyway, but (cause i've told you, who responsible for the prices):
it's not normal in russia, and i'd like to ask MichaelV to stop bringing in "russian mentality" every time admins fuck something up. personal ignorance and greed of some narcissistic sob has nothing to do with people's mentality.
i'm russian too and i don't like that. thank you.

I told you it's being discussed. How about waiting for a decision and after start to complain, ok?

right way is FIRST discuss THEN implement. but discussions with an ass is impossible (VaronRojo case).
and i won't ever believe that "omg server is hardly paying the bills so now prices are 2x". yeah, right.

get used to being used.

P.S:
and more or less right way to do this was for the almighty admin to come down from his fucking golden throne and say something like: "guys, thanks for your support, but we have additional expenses coming up, so we have to change donation system in 2 or 3 days: [changelist]".
it's not that hard to spend few minutes on the people who donate money to you. of course it'd still be bad, but you won't get so much disrespect from your players like in this case.

but i'm afraid someone's ego is much too bloated to fit in the forum, isn't it?

now i rest my case.

[Hypurr]

And really don't remove adena for coins all together at least. Make it 10x more expensive or something... at least make it be available for people to farm adena for and buy.

Its like a donator server without it. BRB donating for 15x, have fun with x5 poor fucks. >_>


They better at least halt all donations for a while till they sort out everyones donations and let them buy the stuff before reinstating the 2x donation price.

[Alkaz]

awesome scam, gg staff

[Y0yOy0]

Its like a donator server without it. BRB donating for 15x, have fun with x5 poor fucks. >_>

You mean BRB looking for a new server on l2top.

[Elfish]

I told you it's being discussed. How about waiting for a decision and after start to complain, ok?

In a normal world, we discuss before make a change. Not after. Or I'm wrong?

[BojanNBGD]

only can say that u can lose ppl coz this .

[Y0yOy0]

only can say that u can lose ppl coz this .

They will probably also loose money instead of making more. People don't like being blackmailed.

[ve3k]

welcome to RPG-Club - quality guarantee

[Volume]

My signature explains all

[MichaelV]

Ofcourse it's normal to discuss, but we got the idea from the first 2 pages. Last 6 pages is the same thing over and over again. Understand now? At least add your comments without dramatizing.

Aibo, i told them that it was a bad move to change it without announcing it and they said it was always done this way until international ppl came here. That's why i said "russian mentality", cause it seemed they are used to do it like this while ppl outside of russia are not used the same way.

Anyway, most probably SC for adena won't make it back (unless any of you will offer later in the servers life to pay the bills) so better get used to it. About the change in price, i have no idea yet what will be done.


Nice sig Volume : )

[Aibo]

Aibo, i told them that it was a bad move to change it without announcing it and they said it was always done this way until international ppl came here. That's why i said "russian mentality", cause it seemed they are used to do it like this while ppl from russia are not used the same way.

and that's one of the reasons (if not the only reason) why this server is not top even in Russia. even having the best files. because "things were always done this way".

My signature explains all

it makes me somehow sad poor guy

[MichaelV]

Things can change you know, and although at a very slow pace they do change. Best learning experience is trial and error... if u get what i'm saying : )

[Y0yOy0]

Do you know what ? You are not even helping urselves with that decision because lets say if 1000 people are willing to pay $1 for 1 hour of L2, and now you make it $2 I bet it will be less than 200 people who will say that is also alright.

And about the "things have always been done this way", yea I can see that, the russian players made a poll on russian forums and they had 83.33% voting that this change is ruining the server, and Admin closed the thread just like that. You don't care about peoples oppenion. And are you telling me that the thousands of dolars you will make every month is not enough to maintain the server? If  you want to buy a porche go rob a bank, you already got experience robbing people.