Merge x5 with x15 proposal

Started by sevenup, May 19, 2011, 10:04:51 PM

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Would you like x5 and x15 to be merged after H5 update?

Yes
289 (70.5%)
No
111 (27.1%)
Only if... (add post explaining your opinion)
10 (2.4%)

Total Members Voted: 362

Voting closed: June 28, 2011, 02:54:16 PM

fragmaa

Quote from: sevenup on June 02, 2011, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: fragmaa on June 02, 2011, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on May 29, 2011, 02:56:22 PM
Added a poll for 30 days. Please remember that this is just a personal idea for the moment, nobody else from the staff is involved. Even if more people want the merge, it is possible that when i present this idea to admins, to not be accepted for different reasons (not possible, too hard, not agreeing etc.)

Edit: ccccccombo breaker! Thanks for the -1 friend : )

also ask x15 players if they want x5 players with full vespers + full epics own easilly


do you realize that ppl from x15 are better geared than x5 ppl ? i've watched oly of x15 and is e evesper sets and vesper weapons +10 , while ppl here runs in dyna and normal items rofl

then watch better, there are 2-3 vesper set + 2 3 oe vesper weapon  on 4k players that well geared y :)

on x5 u got easilly epics when ppl left that u'll never get on x15

sevenup

Quote from: fragmaa on June 02, 2011, 11:51:39 PM
Quote from: sevenup on June 02, 2011, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: fragmaa on June 02, 2011, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on May 29, 2011, 02:56:22 PM
Added a poll for 30 days. Please remember that this is just a personal idea for the moment, nobody else from the staff is involved. Even if more people want the merge, it is possible that when i present this idea to admins, to not be accepted for different reasons (not possible, too hard, not agreeing etc.)

Edit: ccccccombo breaker! Thanks for the -1 friend : )

also ask x15 players if they want x5 players with full vespers + full epics own easilly


do you realize that ppl from x15 are better geared than x5 ppl ? i've watched oly of x15 and is e evesper sets and vesper weapons +10 , while ppl here runs in dyna and normal items rofl

then watch better, there are 2-3 vesper set + 2 3 oe vesper weapon  on 4k players that well geared y :)

on x5 u got easilly epics when ppl left that u'll never get on x15

Still mang !! dyna set is a crap in h5 , then in hi5 u can get zakens and tezza and freyas as many as u want if u know how to farm them so i dont see the problem

qqqq

Quote from: sevenup on June 02, 2011, 11:57:34 PM
Quote from: fragmaa on June 02, 2011, 11:51:39 PM
Quote from: sevenup on June 02, 2011, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: fragmaa on June 02, 2011, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on May 29, 2011, 02:56:22 PM
Added a poll for 30 days. Please remember that this is just a personal idea for the moment, nobody else from the staff is involved. Even if more people want the merge, it is possible that when i present this idea to admins, to not be accepted for different reasons (not possible, too hard, not agreeing etc.)

Edit: ccccccombo breaker! Thanks for the -1 friend : )

also ask x15 players if they want x5 players with full vespers + full epics own easilly


do you realize that ppl from x15 are better geared than x5 ppl ? i've watched oly of x15 and is e evesper sets and vesper weapons +10 , while ppl here runs in dyna and normal items rofl

then watch better, there are 2-3 vesper set + 2 3 oe vesper weapon  on 4k players that well geared y :)

on x5 u got easilly epics when ppl left that u'll never get on x15

Still mang !! dyna set is a crap in h5 , then in hi5 u can get zakens and tezza and freyas as many as u want if u know how to farm them so i dont see the problem

But not antharas and valakas.

Endeavor

Quote from: sevenup on June 02, 2011, 11:57:34 PM
Quote from: fragmaa on June 02, 2011, 11:51:39 PM
Quote from: sevenup on June 02, 2011, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: fragmaa on June 02, 2011, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on May 29, 2011, 02:56:22 PM
Added a poll for 30 days. Please remember that this is just a personal idea for the moment, nobody else from the staff is involved. Even if more people want the merge, it is possible that when i present this idea to admins, to not be accepted for different reasons (not possible, too hard, not agreeing etc.)

Edit: ccccccombo breaker! Thanks for the -1 friend : )

also ask x15 players if they want x5 players with full vespers + full epics own easilly


do you realize that ppl from x15 are better geared than x5 ppl ? i've watched oly of x15 and is e evesper sets and vesper weapons +10 , while ppl here runs in dyna and normal items rofl

then watch better, there are 2-3 vesper set + 2 3 oe vesper weapon  on 4k players that well geared y :)

on x5 u got easilly epics when ppl left that u'll never get on x15

Still mang !! dyna set is a crap in h5 , then in hi5 u can get zakens and tezza and freyas as many as u want if u know how to farm them so i dont see the problem

dyn isnt crap for all classes, in some cases its even better then moirai set.
Zaken wont be easy to get, low drop chance.
Tezza will not be killed by just anyone, ur saying like a single person can just go and kill it and get himself a necklace, ul need atleast 30 ppl, so its not a 1 person effort. My guess is the price of vesper weapon now will be about the price of the frint necklace in h5.

Yes H5 will make items more easy to obtain, but you still have to farm for them, alot of people here are saying that all these vesper recs will be droping from the sky and everyone can just craft themselves everything, thats not true. For example a vesper weapon rec chance spoil is 1/5000 on 1x thats not too bad but its not exactly easy still requires a chunk of spoiling time.

This merge just cannot happen as it will be a big big disadvantage to a large portion of the 15x server, but a nice big benefit to the 5x players and to the old 5x players who are now on the 15x server.

If you want this merge to happen in my opinion the 5x server has to give something up probably the amount of transferable epics, mainly baiums,antharas,valakas.


Riselie

reading what people post about current prices is just hilarious ;o
Are we there yet?

MysticAngel

bleh bleh blah blah , smart talk, [insert here comment about economy], and one more speach about epics and easy money in pockets, etc etc.
This wasn't truly a english phrase, but let me rephrase it into other words... Enough of carebears, PVP is all it matters in L2.
+127

MV

Possible news about this next week, need to discuss first.

zosiek


Gnu

I'm for the union x5 and x15, it will be much more fun, now on the x5 just a swamp ...

Endeavor

Quote from: MysticAngel on June 03, 2011, 04:49:32 PM
bleh bleh blah blah , smart talk, [insert here comment about economy], and one more speach about epics and easy money in pockets, etc etc.
This wasn't truly a english phrase, but let me rephrase it into other words... Enough of carebears, PVP is all it matters in L2.
+127

I am all for pvp, i think this merge would revive alot of pvp based aspects of this game, but economy and pvp are two parts of this game that are connected with each other, good economy means more pvps, since people are able to trade and buy items for reasonable prices and gear themselves up and wont be scared to fight against others. But if this merge goes the way it is right now the economy will not be so well balanced as it will favor those with toons on 15x and 5x server. These people will have the right to get even better gear then what they have now, hence eventually leading again to a one sided server which consists of well geared players, while the rest of the "randoms" wont have the ability to gear themselves since they dont have a nice toon full of epics coming from 5x, or the well geared players with thier imba 5x toons wont be selling their gear for reasonable prices.

Again this is not a carebear statement or anything like that, just think for abit and ul see all the negative and positive things that will come out of this merge, the life of servers depend on newbie char getting to the end game stage to keep up the pvps of the server, but this merge does not in any way favor newbie chars so less people will be getting any sort of advantage to get into the "end game" stage.

Make this merge but with some sort of restriction of the gear that will be coming from the 5x server. I think i already said this a few times...

 

Ewelina

Economy, economy, do you guys care only about damn adena and market price ? We talk about end game pvp, ppl leave both servers coz of boredom, not damn market price or economy. Who the f**k care what is dynasty or zaken market price, if server loose best players, coz they dont have equal enemy. If someone wanna only make adena and sell/buy epics, find other game, L2 is based on pvp, end game means pvp, not 10 zakens/tezza in inventory.

Now is time to make decision, admins can merge servers and give them new boost and give players reason to play, or left things like this and let both server dies in nearest future.
And every player must ask yourself, we need one server with lots of players or two half dead servers

Endeavor

Quote from: Ewelina on June 04, 2011, 02:00:31 AM
Economy, economy, do you guys care only about damn adena and market price ? We talk about end game pvp, ppl leave both servers coz of boredom, not damn market price or economy. Who the f**k care what is dynasty or zaken market price, if server loose best players, coz they dont have equal enemy. If someone wanna only make adena and sell/buy epics, find other game, L2 is based on pvp, end game means pvp, not 10 zakens/tezza in inventory.

Now is time to make decision, admins can merge servers and give them new boost and give players reason to play, or left things like this and let both server dies in nearest future.
And every player must ask yourself, we need one server with lots of players or two half dead servers

ye exactly you want more people at end game stage for pvp, this merge will only keep people in end game and will create a bigger gap between those who are in end game stage and those who are in mid game or lower stage of the game.

sevenup

ur wrong the high ppl will always sell epics ,same happens on x5 , just be mans and accept it and all clans will have epics since u must make alliances to kill big epics in h5 , so that how deals come

iodidi

lol u rlly think ppl on 15x still have items on 5x? epics? 95% of sold their epics and chars long time ago (i doubt their is a single top party on 15x who still has epics on 5x - pls name one if u know it).
ask in LL or OOC (i think only admiral has items but that doesnt matter now). only some ppl from AFL kept their items on 5x, but that doesnt matter now either.
rest of 15x ppl who have epics on 5x bring them, make strong chars and come pvp. i couldnt care less since OOC wont have any advantage on this to say they will be stronger then before.
as for factor clans on 5x,bring all ur epics, pvp will be more fun.

GodMadeMeCool

Quote from: Ewelina on June 04, 2011, 02:00:31 AM
Economy, economy, do you guys care only about damn adena and market price ? We talk about end game pvp, ppl leave both servers coz of boredom, not damn market price or economy. Who the f**k care what is dynasty or zaken market price, if server loose best players, coz they dont have equal enemy. If someone wanna only make adena and sell/buy epics, find other game, L2 is based on pvp, end game means pvp, not 10 zakens/tezza in inventory.

Now is time to make decision, admins can merge servers and give them new boost and give players reason to play, or left things like this and let both server dies in nearest future.
And every player must ask yourself, we need one server with lots of players or two half dead servers

+1 nothing to add more :)

sevenup

the real players who loves pvp and fun , lieks the idea only some farmers doesnt like , we ruin their business roflmao

n0click

Merge the server is best option ! only carebears and farmers would be afraid u like to be stomped by ooc ? with merge ooc will go down more side smore fun all will atent for epics since many ppl are needed for valakas antharas , makigndeals etc


gwny

Dont forget about castles/clan halls/hero's and sutch, all that needed to be reset....

ezraelide

Quote from: Ewelina on June 04, 2011, 02:00:31 AM

And every player must ask yourself, we need one server with lots of players or two half dead servers


this.

n0click

Quote from: gwny on June 04, 2011, 03:42:57 PM
Dont forget about castles/clan halls/hero's and sutch, all that needed to be reset....

i dont care about CH / Castle / Heroes , i can siege a castle or Ch after i come , and heroes i can farm in month i come fo next , wuts the problem !


MysticAngel

Bout newbies not getting any advantage from starting in merged server, bullsh*t. The more chronicle updates ncsoft makes, the easier it becomes for the newbies. You got all A grade usefull sets in shops, better sets can be made without the need of having a CP, afaik also, it's now faster to lvl till lvl 78. And remember, the big weight of these servers atm is not the new players it's receiving, it's the heavy core of end game users that give life to mass pvp, sieges and all that L2 can offer you (fantasy island will be used maybe!? :D)

Szolon

wipe all and start only one server :P

warehouse


...MinDiuSe...

Quote from: Szolon on June 04, 2011, 05:00:47 PM
wipe all and start only one server :P
you must be a blond person with no logic ... No hardware would hold that population
Proud Dorf

Nistar

merge only if rates stay x15.