High Five Test Yo

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Elitepvper

Quote from: ayozito on August 08, 2011, 06:56:14 PM
time ago i made many test with GH and WR with +5 STR or with -12 STR and the result was the same, even sometimes more criticals with -12 than with +5.

u cant test this. dont even try

Elitepvper

Quote from: Prey on August 08, 2011, 07:24:12 PM
dex = speed evasion atc speed, what is dagger without those 3 ?

lold

Babe

Quote from: Furesy on August 09, 2011, 05:32:05 PM
Quote from: Babe on August 09, 2011, 04:55:03 PM
btw about cloaks, its my client or u cant see cloaks with some sets? and epics cloaks from part 4? or just theres no such cloaks in gm shop? and i cant find pvp belts.

edit. checked quest, u can take them, so i guess just no cloaks in shop.

p.s.2: i cant put pad on dyn armor. its just my client or?
about cloaks i also can't see s84, but i can see s80 on all sets
and for the pad, i saw some ppl around with it on dynasty sets

vafankulo ;/ all nubakas here :) even blacky here

venduj


Quote from: Prey on August 08, 2011, 07:24:12 PM
dex = speed evasion atc speed, what is dagger without those 3 ?
they are gerike or d0ggy
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Quote from: venduj on August 09, 2011, 07:58:59 PM

Quote from: Prey on August 08, 2011, 07:24:12 PM
dex = speed evasion atc speed, what is dagger without those 3 ?
they are gerike or d0ggy

and paf

DaiSekkou

Quote from: soulkiller on August 09, 2011, 12:00:01 PM
im testing hi5 with my duelist and the skill BatleRoar doesnt work in both ways, doest increase hp or regenerates the hp

Like the others said: Battle Roar won't heal if you already have Improve Condition or a BTB with a higher lvl than your BR.

Back when I played at Frint 10x (Hellbound) this issue was solved as soon as I enchanted my BR, like that would grant it a higher hierarchy or something. However, I don't know for sure if that was supposed to work that way or if it should work that way in GF/H5.
At first I was like...


But then I...

asachiara

Quote from: hello on August 08, 2011, 08:15:20 PM
Quote from: baho on August 08, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
Backstab test with both +duel and +element enchants:

Quote+9 STR / +30 duel  ==>  40 hits -> 5 crits with 5k dmg and 10k crit

-9 STR / +30 duel  ==>  40 hits -> 5 crits with 4k dmg and 8k crit

+9 STR / +30 element  ==>  40 hits -> 13 crits with 7k dmg and 14k crit

-9 STR / +30 element  ==>  40 hits -> 5 crits with 6k dmg and 12k crit


And one more, the result was odd:

+9 STR / +30 element  ==>  69 hits (oom :P) -> 14 crits with 7k dmg and 14k crit

Take it as you wish.

on npcs?

Tested on AW with no buff (even self) no enchant skill no element on same lvl taget. (both 77)

One set up to maximize STR reached 50 with plated leather etc. Then total -STR setup and hit 36 STR..

There was only a little influence on crit for skills but i cannot say there was no influence. instead of 2 crits from 20 hits on STR 36 we had 4 crits for 20 hits on STR 50 (20 hits but it was like series with repetetive tries .of 20 hits)
If we take in account that by default (without any skill to increase crit for skills if any) the CAP is on 25% and this CAP can be achieved only by overcome STR 50 it is not worth to stack for STR for PVP on daggers. the increase of less than 15% of crits you need to loose to much CON it is not only about HP but you need to think about weight cague and Stun resist at least until TW/Oly and boss jews will be "crap" on the market...

GO for max str only if you want PvE a lot or ganking single targets.. for mass pvp wihtout antistun jews you will not get a chance to try the slightly increase skill crit rate. Thjis comming pretty much in consideration when we talking about AW with lack of CON and which is the only dagger which may hit 50+ STR (wards including).

Tazman



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Are we there yet?


naz

Quote from: naz on August 09, 2011, 04:35:32 PM
Sometimes "Noblesse" just disappear for no apparent reason, or it's just me?

anyone?

Gawain

Quote from: naz on August 09, 2011, 11:11:35 PM
Quote from: naz on August 09, 2011, 04:35:32 PM
Sometimes "Noblesse" just disappear for no apparent reason, or it's just me?

anyone?
might have happened to me.
but it could be also cancelled by SPS during pvps.

keep in mind that noblesse buff can be buffstolen/cancelled by any cancel in the game now in high five.

baho

Quote from: Tazman on August 09, 2011, 10:17:21 PM
6 days

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naz

Quote from: Gawain on August 10, 2011, 01:05:45 AM
Quote from: naz on August 09, 2011, 11:11:35 PM
Quote from: naz on August 09, 2011, 04:35:32 PM
Sometimes "Noblesse" just disappear for no apparent reason, or it's just me?

anyone?
might have happened to me.
but it could be also cancelled by SPS during pvps.

keep in mind that noblesse buff can be buffstolen/cancelled by any cancel in the game now in high five.
Well DVC mobs doesnt have any type of cancel, so...

nenny

Maybe you got overbuffed

naz

Quote from: nenny on August 10, 2011, 10:57:20 AM
Maybe you got overbuffed
I think it's because of those Fruits buffs, if I get overbuffed, the fruits buffs does not disappear but the other buffs does.

Kiru

Quote from: naz on August 10, 2011, 12:41:22 PM
Quote from: nenny on August 10, 2011, 10:57:20 AM
Maybe you got overbuffed
I think it's because of those Fruits buffs, if I get overbuffed, the fruits buffs does not disappear but the other buffs does.


this frutis are annoying you cant remove this shit with "Alt" too

Elitepvper

Quote from: asachiara on August 09, 2011, 10:10:09 PM
Quote from: hello on August 08, 2011, 08:15:20 PM
Quote from: baho on August 08, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
Backstab test with both +duel and +element enchants:

Quote+9 STR / +30 duel  ==>  40 hits -> 5 crits with 5k dmg and 10k crit

-9 STR / +30 duel  ==>  40 hits -> 5 crits with 4k dmg and 8k crit

+9 STR / +30 element  ==>  40 hits -> 13 crits with 7k dmg and 14k crit

-9 STR / +30 element  ==>  40 hits -> 5 crits with 6k dmg and 12k crit


And one more, the result was odd:

+9 STR / +30 element  ==>  69 hits (oom :P) -> 14 crits with 7k dmg and 14k crit

Take it as you wish.

on npcs?

Tested on AW with no buff (even self) no enchant skill no element on same lvl taget. (both 77)

One set up to maximize STR reached 50 with plated leather etc. Then total -STR setup and hit 36 STR..

There was only a little influence on crit for skills but i cannot say there was no influence. instead of 2 crits from 20 hits on STR 36 we had 4 crits for 20 hits on STR 50 (20 hits but it was like series with repetetive tries .of 20 hits)
If we take in account that by default (without any skill to increase crit for skills if any) the CAP is on 25% and this CAP can be achieved only by overcome STR 50 it is not worth to stack for STR for PVP on daggers. the increase of less than 15% of crits you need to loose to much CON it is not only about HP but you need to think about weight cague and Stun resist at least until TW/Oly and boss jews will be "crap" on the market...

GO for max str only if you want PvE a lot or ganking single targets.. for mass pvp wihtout antistun jews you will not get a chance to try the slightly increase skill crit rate. Thjis comming pretty much in consideration when we talking about AW with lack of CON and which is the only dagger which may hit 50+ STR (wards including).

when we talking about STR of daggers why do you mention only 2x crit chance and stun resist?
p attack > element In h5
disarm resist
bluff chance
throwing dagger chance
FOCUS SKILL MASTERY
hex/pb attack
2x crit chance

srsly in h5 the -8str daggers in mass pvp are the biggest waste of slots in party. forevermaking 2k blows on enemy is waste of mana, waste of mana is time wasting of your ee, time wasting in h5 of your ee = DIE FHAGS.

w/e there is no dagger in server atm who plays daily in mas pvps to tell str is better

and btw: who the fuck said to go -5 con? if u dont have that mucho stun jewel go for -2/3 dex/ -2/3 con but u MUST have the + 5 str no matter what dagger class u are.




Babe

Quote from: Elitepvper on August 10, 2011, 03:03:27 PM
Quote from: asachiara on August 09, 2011, 10:10:09 PM
Quote from: hello on August 08, 2011, 08:15:20 PM
Quote from: baho on August 08, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
Backstab test with both +duel and +element enchants:

Quote+9 STR / +30 duel  ==>  40 hits -> 5 crits with 5k dmg and 10k crit

-9 STR / +30 duel  ==>  40 hits -> 5 crits with 4k dmg and 8k crit

+9 STR / +30 element  ==>  40 hits -> 13 crits with 7k dmg and 14k crit

-9 STR / +30 element  ==>  40 hits -> 5 crits with 6k dmg and 12k crit


And one more, the result was odd:

+9 STR / +30 element  ==>  69 hits (oom :P) -> 14 crits with 7k dmg and 14k crit

Take it as you wish.

on npcs?

Tested on AW with no buff (even self) no enchant skill no element on same lvl taget. (both 77)

One set up to maximize STR reached 50 with plated leather etc. Then total -STR setup and hit 36 STR..

There was only a little influence on crit for skills but i cannot say there was no influence. instead of 2 crits from 20 hits on STR 36 we had 4 crits for 20 hits on STR 50 (20 hits but it was like series with repetetive tries .of 20 hits)
If we take in account that by default (without any skill to increase crit for skills if any) the CAP is on 25% and this CAP can be achieved only by overcome STR 50 it is not worth to stack for STR for PVP on daggers. the increase of less than 15% of crits you need to loose to much CON it is not only about HP but you need to think about weight cague and Stun resist at least until TW/Oly and boss jews will be "crap" on the market...

GO for max str only if you want PvE a lot or ganking single targets.. for mass pvp wihtout antistun jews you will not get a chance to try the slightly increase skill crit rate. Thjis comming pretty much in consideration when we talking about AW with lack of CON and which is the only dagger which may hit 50+ STR (wards including).

when we talking about STR of daggers why do you mention only 2x crit chance and stun resist?
p attack > element In h5
disarm resist
bluff chance
throwing dagger chance
FOCUS SKILL MASTERY
hex/pb attack
2x crit chance

srsly in h5 the -8str daggers in mass pvp are the biggest waste of slots in party. forevermaking 2k blows on enemy is waste of mana, waste of mana is time wasting of your ee, time wasting in h5 of your ee = DIE FHAGS.

w/e there is no dagger in server atm who plays daily in mas pvps to tell str is better

and btw: who the fuck said to go -5 con? if u dont have that mucho stun jewel go for -2/3 dex/ -2/3 con but u MUST have the + 5 str no matter what dagger class u are.





its not 100%?

hello

I'll write this again, if you want reliable tests do at least 100 tries.
)

ezraelide

Quote from: hello on August 10, 2011, 03:46:57 PM
I'll write this again, if you want reliable tests do at least 100 tries.

i'd say 4-5k times just to say that a test can prove something.

hello

Quote from: ezraelide on August 10, 2011, 03:50:23 PM
Quote from: hello on August 10, 2011, 03:46:57 PM
I'll write this again, if you want reliable tests do at least 100 tries.

i'd say 4-5k times just to say that a test can prove something.

Well no one in his right mind would try that without some script =/
)

DaiSekkou

At first I was like...


But then I...

Tazman