High Five Test Yo

[ojkaipsukaposiujus]

any information when will the update start?

next month

[Shattered]

It takes 6 months to the average player to reach the end game but it takes 3 months for some other people. Nobody is talking about a wipe, even if a new server is opened you can stay at the old ones. Some other part of the community prefers to play this game hardcore while there's competition and then move on.

If there won't be a new server it's sad to a big part of the L2 community since RPG is the only good network left appart from ruoff but nobody is crying because of this...

Few players are not a big part and this game is ment to be played for long time even GF/g+ were on retail server for 1-2 years ppl were on "end-game" and they did not quit, ppl quitting after 2-4 month of farmin it`s just stupid to ask for a new server.

Also if rpg want to stablish some good international comunity opening a server every year is not a good solution.

It's not stupid, it's playing the game on a competitive way, not in a carebear way like you do. NA retail is not an example since everything people does there is botting and botting.

Then answer me, why did you leave x5 if you want to stay on a server for 2 years ? Just makes no sense.

What u mean by competitive way? Rush for gear, dont make even end game gear and sell char for real money? If there was normal ppl who dont quit after first 2 months there could be still fckin good competiton. Your problem, next¨time dont quit and dont cry for new server twice in year.

[...MinDiuSe...]

1 day 60 one night 60
one day 83 one night 83

Wat? Arent those instance H5 Zakens and Frintz with lower % drop rate then the base ones?

no idea look in global drop spoil and compare

[CrossFirepwnz]

1 day 60 one night 60
one day 83 one night 83

Wat? Arent those instance H5 Zakens and Frintz with lower % drop rate then the base ones?

Yeah, they don't drop juve 100% anymore.

[Pel8]

It's not stupid, it's playing the game on a competitive way, not in a carebear way like you do. NA retail is not an example since everything people does there is botting and botting.

Then answer me, why did you leave x5 if you want to stay on a server for 2 years ? Just makes no sense.

I`m srry but playin from from 4 till 10 pm oly then stay up till 6 am on pve is not playin in a competitive way, i understand at some point u cannot keep doing like this longer than 3 month.

And don`t compare playing  a server 2 month and a half with playin till the server more or less died, beside i never liked x5 rates.

[Riselie]

NA retail is not an example since everything people does there is botting and botting.

had to quote this, few will understand, for the rest i don't care

[Tears ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿]

It takes 6 months to the average player to reach the end game but it takes 3 months for some other people. Nobody is talking about a wipe, even if a new server is opened you can stay at the old ones. Some other part of the community prefers to play this game hardcore while there's competition and then move on.

If there won't be a new server it's sad to a big part of the L2 community since RPG is the only good network left appart from ruoff but nobody is crying because of this...

Few players are not a big part and this game is ment to be played for long time even GF/g+ were on retail server for 1-2 years ppl were on "end-game" and they did not quit, ppl quitting after 2-4 month of farmin it`s just stupid to ask for a new server.

Also if rpg want to stablish some good international comunity opening a server every year is not a good solution.

It's not stupid, it's playing the game on a competitive way, not in a carebear way like you do. NA retail is not an example since everything people does there is botting and botting.

Then answer me, why did you leave x5 if you want to stay on a server for 2 years ? Just makes no sense.

You guys have a wrong concept about what endgame and competition means.

First of all You think that getting into chims and have a s80 set with 60 resist and a single 300 wep in party is Endgame. when actually there is only 2-3 ppl in x15 in real endgame content..

and second talking about competition is such a big excuse, ppl plays this game in hardcore mode is just to show how big their ego a.k.a epenis is. if ppl really cared about competition they would stay for ever and not quit in the very 1st moment that they lost a pvp or when they win 2 pvps in a row claiming u won the server. I wont name examples but everybody knows how it is.

And also thats a joke to say that u can reach endgame (clearly not endgame) in half of the time than other ppl, so my question is why to do that and quit ? I dont see anything showed in there besides that we (i include here myself) have more free time to play than other ppl, but isnt really a excuse to quit and hop for new server to repeat the amazing adventure of nolife to "win"

H5 is pretty easy, when h5 updates ppl can easyly catch up in like a couple of weeks if they really are so hardcores as they claim.

Another thing, if u guys are really hoping for a new server to win, I have pretty much bad news for u, in h5 there is no really a winner in early/mid stages of  server, so you guys can forget already of amazing barakiel figths, amazing toi bosses fights, amazing "oh my gosh i crafted 1st s80 set",  etc all that content is gone in h5. So whats the point in waiting another server to rush endgame and quit, when u can do that in servers where u already have chars and atleast basic equipment to rush into the next stage that is coming

oh and i forgot, even for ppl planing to play next server to cash it later to support and feed their family is btter to go find a job since h5 so easy that nobody would ebay i guess 

nice wall of text ^^

btw u cant boat anymore on NA/Eu unless u want a instant ban

[Sirius92]

So what if you can't bot anymore on NA/EU retail, people has been botting for 7 years already and you know it perfectly Di. I've to put no excuses, I play this game on the way I like it which is playing hardcore against some other hardcore players, AFL/Russians in this case.

We had x3 300 weapons while most of the people had none. Reality is nobody cares about x5 nor x15 anymore, nobody will take in consideration anybody getting heroes now, nobody is going to remember any clan dominating the server by now and you all know this.

PvP on this game is not even a challenge, the game is old thats why people quits so fast after competition is over, what's the point of keep playing when you have nothing to do ? Don't blame good people for being too fast. That's like saying the first one on a race is bad because he's excesively fast.

[Tears ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿]

really hindemith? weapons 300? yes, forcing 150 ppl clan to put all ecs to clan warehouse and putting it in ur party weapons isnt hardcore actually. its just take advantage and then brag about it.

the fact that ppl boted doesnt change that ppl could easy manage to participate in daily basics for years and have a normal competition w.o excuses, so its the same just that instead of killing trillions of mobs while clicking mouse/f's keys and doing the same over and over u could just watch a movie and still kill trillions of mobs.

By the time u guys started to "quit", only like 2-3 party of AFLs quited, the rest was in other clan they just needed a leader and when they tryed to organized in RP, then ur clan (yeah that clan that quited cause no competition) was trying to recruit them, really nice hypocrisy righ there ^^,  also others like trouble grp joined clans like ooc and u had still plenty competition not to mention that there was/is a huge amount of players that are not in the "factor" clans,  that know how to play the game and sometimes even more than kolguys from bigclans, the problem is just that they dont have proper leadership/organization, so ye basically the "I quit because no competition" is just the lamest and biggest excuse ever for quitting from x15 rpg. anyway thats not what we talking about here.

I'm just saying that is pretty stupid the arguments ppl have to justificate their needs for new server. Anyways I really dont care if theres going to be one, we all gonna play it too, just stop making all this show about how wonderfull/terrible ppl did while winning/losing the x15. And say that u want a new h5 server so we can play vs pinky and start the game of  "you.. not, you!" and see who 69 who first,  who is using l2r again and see who is the bestest and gets 1st freya neck and new dragons converted into nice dineritos

Btw lol at the amount of ppl who was saying that x15 was the last server for them cause need to move on with life and now they waiting for new new server

[Guardian]

MV: you need to learn to express your self in a respectful manner while talking with other people, without using curse words. Take 3 days brake from the forum to meditate on this.

[Nistar]

So what if you can't bot anymore on NA/EU retail, people has been botting for 7 years already and you know it perfectly Di. I've to put no excuses, I play this game on the way I like it which is playing hardcore against some other hardcore players, AFL/Russians in this case.

We had x3 300 weapons while most of the people had none. Reality is nobody cares about x5 nor x15 anymore, nobody will take in consideration anybody getting heroes now, nobody is going to remember any clan dominating the server by now and you all know this.

PvP on this game is not even a challenge, the game is old thats why people quits so fast after competition is over, what's the point of keep playing when you have nothing to do ? Don't blame good people for being too fast. That's like saying the first one on a race is bad because he's excesively fast.

its like: do you know who won first 3 titles of NBA? I don't think so, you know better who won 3 last titles.
Same with your shitclans - noone will care who "won":first months, they will care only about latest winners.

PS. first 3 winners was: Philadelphia Warriors, Baltimore Bullets, Minneapolis Lakers. I am 100% sure, you don't know any of them, who played there.

Go to cut your wrists, if new server won't come.

[papeles]

I don't get why so much flame for the way people enjoy the game. Gracia final sucks, it's all about a (full) constant party. Without it no1 is nothing. Alot of people didnt play 5x or 15x to notevencloseendgame because hellbound was simply filled with pt's from bigger clans, or didn't get any epic for the same reason. There is simply no point on spoiling CL and selling it for element stones xD

Why a new server would make sense?
-First off, if it's a new server, why are people from 15x and 5x butting in? it's not their business since their server wont be affected. It's a new one to who wants.

-Second, new server means new chance, and its HI5, meaning it's alot more balanced for everyone.

-Third, enchant exploits, other exploits, DS bug, 1hp res. Completly dumb bugs the messed up with gracia final (assuming there wont be worse ones)

[Nistar]

I don't get why so much flame for the way people enjoy the game. Gracia final sucks, it's all about a (full) constant party. Without it no1 is nothing. Alot of people didnt play 5x or 15x to notevencloseendgame because hellbound was simply filled with pt's from bigger clans, or didn't get any epic for the same reason. There is simply no point on spoiling CL and selling it for element stones xD

Why a new server would make sense?
-First off, if it's a new server, why are people from 15x and 5x butting in? it's not their business since their server wont be affected. It's a new one to who wants.

-Second, new server means new chance, and its HI5, meaning it's alot more balanced for everyone.

-Third, enchant exploits, other exploits, DS bug, 1hp res. Completly dumb bugs the messed up with gracia final (assuming there wont be worse ones)

- it will affect very much, practically, if new server will be released, x15 is will be dead with 500-1000on.
- new servers hopers - maybe this time i will own good luck with that, and later leave after 1 month.
- DS, 1hp - everyone used them,. about enchants - in HF everyone will have them, so not a big deal.

P.S. when HF will come, after about 2-4weeks of HF, x15 will become so much alive, i am sure when all that random mass will get vesper sets, s84 guns + SA + 150+ atr, they will join "a side". But i think 2 sides will not be enough :\ new server is absolutely not needed. Just stop whining for new server and join x15. It will be very much alive and competitive, if new server won't be started.

[ezraelide]

all people that jump to every new server opening scares me,really,
how the fuck you want to start all over again?you must have a serious disturb of compulsive and obsessive behaviour.
the only idea to start it all again and waste all that time farming stuff/ecs/ke etc is simply creepy for me.

[papeles]

- it will affect very much, practically, if new server will be released, x15 is will be dead with 500-1000on.
- new servers hopers - maybe this time i will own good luck with that, and later leave after 1 month.
- DS, 1hp - everyone used them,. about enchants - in HF everyone will have them, so not a big deal.

P.S. when HF will come, after about 2-4weeks of HF, x15 will become so much alive, i am sure when all that random mass will get vesper sets, s84 guns + SA + 150+ atr, they will join "a side". But i think 2 sides will not be enough :\ new server is absolutely not needed. Just stop whining for new server and join x15. It will be very much alive and competitive, if new server won't be started.

Stop being delusional. This is not about  "i will have a chance to win". This is more "i will have a change to actually play". And lol. Just because Vesper is craftable it doesnt mean it's easy. Farming it is hard for badequiped newcomers wile the BIG GUYS, who have epic sets, vesper weapons, enchanted skills and so on, will farm them so fcking easy. Also, 150 element means NOTHING in hf.

It's hot whining, it's the truth. Also, it's one of the main reason that NO1 starts new on retail (except from ebaying chars and gear)

So, to summ it up, no1 will actually want to join an old server and start from 0. Just the same way no1 does it on retail.

all people that jump to every new server opening scares me,really,
how the fuck you want to start all over again?you must have a serious disturb of compulsive and obsessive behaviour.
the only idea to start it all again and waste all that time farming stuff/ecs/ke etc is simply creepy for me.

Stop fcking making this only about people who already played here. What about newcomers? Won't they have to farm Ecs and stones and all the sh1t from start when everyone has Vespers?

[ezraelide]

- it will affect very much, practically, if new server will be released, x15 is will be dead with 500-1000on.
- new servers hopers - maybe this time i will own good luck with that, and later leave after 1 month.
- DS, 1hp - everyone used them,. about enchants - in HF everyone will have them, so not a big deal.

P.S. when HF will come, after about 2-4weeks of HF, x15 will become so much alive, i am sure when all that random mass will get vesper sets, s84 guns + SA + 150+ atr, they will join "a side". But i think 2 sides will not be enough :\ new server is absolutely not needed. Just stop whining for new server and join x15. It will be very much alive and competitive, if new server won't be started.

Stop being delusional. This is not about  "i will have a chance to win". This is more "i will have a change to actually play". And lol. Just because Vesper is craftable it doesnt mean it's easy. Farming it is hard for badequiped newcomers wile the BIG GUYS, who have epic sets, vesper weapons, enchanted skills and so on, will farm them so fcking easy. Also, 150 element means NOTHING in hf.

It's hot whining, it's the truth. Also, it's one of the main reason that NO1 starts new on retail (except from ebaying chars and gear)

So, to summ it up, no1 will actually want to join an old server and start from 0. Just the same way no1 does it on retail.

all people that jump to every new server opening scares me,really,
how the fuck you want to start all over again?you must have a serious disturb of compulsive and obsessive behaviour.
the only idea to start it all again and waste all that time farming stuff/ecs/ke etc is simply creepy for me.

Stop fcking making this only about people who already played here. What about newcomers? Won't they have to farm Ecs and stones and all the sh1t from start when everyone has Vespers?

what's the problem to start from 0 in h5,exp is crazy,
values of s and s80 stuff will even be lower than now,elemental stones will drop everywhere,all will go for pvp skills and farming ke will even be more valuable.
if you know how to play you'll catch up old players in a little about lv/equip and skills.

of course you can forget to get epics easily,but you can forget it even in new fresh server if you don't join a serious clan and know very well how to set up and make work a cp.

[...MinDiuSe...]

I don't get why so much flame for the way people enjoy the game. Gracia final sucks, it's all about a (full) constant party. Without it no1 is nothing. Alot of people didnt play 5x or 15x to notevencloseendgame because hellbound was simply filled with pt's from bigger clans, or didn't get any epic for the same reason. There is simply no point on spoiling CL and selling it for element stones xD

Why a new server would make sense?
-First off, if it's a new server, why are people from 15x and 5x butting in? it's not their business since their server wont be affected. It's a new one to who wants.

-Second, new server means new chance, and its HI5, meaning it's alot more balanced for everyone.

-Third, enchant exploits, other exploits, DS bug, 1hp res. Completly dumb bugs the messed up with gracia final (assuming there wont be worse ones)

finally a person with some logic in hes head
guys that are flaming that they don't need a new serber is those which know that if a new server will start they will have to go it because a lot of people will move not because they wanna win something but because they wanna try the new chronicle from zero , and it won't be a low rate server because there are already many low rates in rpg so all low rate lowers could go to 5x 15x we want 30x
Because as he said gf was all about constant pt i leaved because you know how fun is to solo hb with a  maestro for 83lvl books ? Or ecs? you can easily do that but because of enchanted stun and few stun juves but who wants a maestro in cp at gf? And as i said before if you thing that there's no need for a new server don't join it ! so it will have less lags and we will have more fun without u. And there is so much time till new serber would be possible you can't even garuanty if you will still play in that 15x so please keep your opinion to your self untill you will be asked if there is a need for a new serber in some kind of pool you minority .

[Sirius92]

I don't get why so much flame for the way people enjoy the game. Gracia final sucks, it's all about a (full) constant party. Without it no1 is nothing. Alot of people didnt play 5x or 15x to notevencloseendgame because hellbound was simply filled with pt's from bigger clans, or didn't get any epic for the same reason. There is simply no point on spoiling CL and selling it for element stones xD

Why a new server would make sense?
-First off, if it's a new server, why are people from 15x and 5x butting in? it's not their business since their server wont be affected. It's a new one to who wants.

-Second, new server means new chance, and its HI5, meaning it's alot more balanced for everyone.

-Third, enchant exploits, other exploits, DS bug, 1hp res. Completly dumb bugs the messed up with gracia final (assuming there wont be worse ones)

- it will affect very much, practically, if new server will be released, x15 is will be dead with 500-1000on.
- new servers hopers - maybe this time i will own good luck with that, and later leave after 1 month.
- DS, 1hp - everyone used them,. about enchants - in HF everyone will have them, so not a big deal.

P.S. when HF will come, after about 2-4weeks of HF, x15 will become so much alive, i am sure when all that random mass will get vesper sets, s84 guns + SA + 150+ atr, they will join "a side". But i think 2 sides will not be enough :\ new server is absolutely not needed. Just stop whining for new server and join x15. It will be very much alive and competitive, if new server won't be started.

So first of all you are giving me the reason, people does want fresh servers continously, just look at ruoff. Luna lasted for 1-2 years, x5 6 months to almost one year for some people, don't expect x15 rates server to live longer, is just way too fast.

Is not server hopers, it's actually the other way arround, people who has got his dynasty set finally and people which farmer chimeras for first time recently doesn't want a new server because they have finally "achieved" something on their current one.

@tears I stayed myself every single SoD to recolect and organize farming there, supporting retards from your party specially, nobody forced you to anything, would like to see you trying to enter there without the LL tag... ECS were shared on the same amount between the biggest oly farmers without exception.

I've nothing to justify just saying why a new server would be good, it would bring interesting gameplay back.

Bad people will never want a new server because they gonna stay behind once again (not talking about you Di  )

[papeles]

I'm not flamming any1 or so. Played on 15x, started an archer pt. On 78++ people started quitting because it was pointless to play GF - it was actually very limited (and trust me, we were playing some epilogue loljava server before, with alot of stuff working properly and it was alot more fun). In the end a new cp was remade (Zeld's pt) but even after getting 81++ and actually farming HB and doing some fun stuff it was all still pointless.

A new server with HF? i would definitly play if i got time and will prolly dedicate myself to a class, a thing that i dont do for years and actually miss in l2.

[Shattered]

6 months is 6 months...dunno why u still talking about  just w8 and enjoy summer

[Nistar]

I don't get why so much flame for the way people enjoy the game. Gracia final sucks, it's all about a (full) constant party. Without it no1 is nothing. Alot of people didnt play 5x or 15x to notevencloseendgame because hellbound was simply filled with pt's from bigger clans, or didn't get any epic for the same reason. There is simply no point on spoiling CL and selling it for element stones xD

Why a new server would make sense?
-First off, if it's a new server, why are people from 15x and 5x butting in? it's not their business since their server wont be affected. It's a new one to who wants.

-Second, new server means new chance, and its HI5, meaning it's alot more balanced for everyone.

-Third, enchant exploits, other exploits, DS bug, 1hp res. Completly dumb bugs the messed up with gracia final (assuming there wont be worse ones)

finally a person with some logic in hes head
guys that are flaming that they don't need a new serber is those which know that if a new server will start they will have to go it because a lot of people will move not because they wanna win something but because they wanna try the new chronicle from zero , and it won't be a low rate server because there are already many low rates in rpg so all low rate lowers could go to 5x 15x we want 30x
Because as he said gf was all about constant pt i leaved because you know how fun is to solo hb with a  maestro for 83lvl books ? Or ecs? you can easily do that but because of enchanted stun and few stun juves but who wants a maestro in cp at gf? And as i said before if you thing that there's no need for a new server don't join it ! so it will have less lags and we will have more fun without u. And there is so much time till new serber would be possible you can't even garuanty if you will still play in that 15x so please keep your opinion to your self untill you will be asked if there is a need for a new serber in some kind of pool you minority .

new chorincle from zero as a reason of wipe - this is the most stupid reason could be, especially for HF.
why? lets see these new things:

# Grand Olympiad - only high lvl
# Characters - exp bonus from party available at high lvl too
# Clans - only high lvl updates, and clan halls selling ewx. you can buy them at high lvl too
# Mail System - available at high lvl too
# Party Matching System - available at high lvl too
# Interface - available at high lvl too
# Birthday System - with new server you have to wait 1 year to test it. cool
# Nevit's Adent Blessing - available at high lvl too
# Skills - available at high lvl too
# Hunting Zones - all high lvl
# Quests - all high lvl
# Items - all high lvl
# Miscellaneous - available at high lvl too

so there is absolutely nothing to test with low lvl char. HF begins at 82-85lvl only. Till that - same faking grinding.

As for crafting vespers-  its few times easier than crafting dynasty in GF.

Anyway, it's pointless discussion really, it's not up to us server will be started or not.

If they start the server - i will play there whatever rates will be, and i will nolife there again, but its not very pleasant to do that over and over again. I would better stick to x15.

please keep your opinion to your self untill you will be asked if there is a need for a new serber in some kind of pool you minority . <<< about this: its a forum, everyone has a right to speak here, so please don't tell these shi**s again.

cheers.

[Soul`]

Bad people will never want a new server because they gonna stay behind once again (not talking about you Di  )

are u trying to say ll afl or any clan that won anything on any server was cuz they had "good", i guess u mean, skilled ppl? i dont get it how after so much time playing l2 ppl say things like that 

[HaugeH]

Reading Siriuz posts makes me giggle

[...MinDiuSe...]

I don't get why so much flame for the way people enjoy the game. Gracia final sucks, it's all about a (full) constant party. Without it no1 is nothing. Alot of people didnt play 5x or 15x to notevencloseendgame because hellbound was simply filled with pt's from bigger clans, or didn't get any epic for the same reason. There is simply no point on spoiling CL and selling it for element stones xD

Why a new server would make sense?
-First off, if it's a new server, why are people from 15x and 5x butting in? it's not their business since their server wont be affected. It's a new one to who wants.

-Second, new server means new chance, and its HI5, meaning it's alot more balanced for everyone.

-Third, enchant exploits, other exploits, DS bug, 1hp res. Completly dumb bugs the messed up with gracia final (assuming there wont be worse ones)

finally a person with some logic in hes head
guys that are flaming that they don't need a new serber is those which kn ow that if a new server will start they will have to go it because a lot of people will move not because they wanna win something but because they wanna try the new chronicle from zero , and it won't be a low rate server because there are already many low rates in rpg so all low rate lowers could go to 5x 15x we want 30x
Because as he said gf was all about constant pt i leaved because you know how fun is to solo hb with a  maestro for 83lvl books ? Or ecs? you can easily do that but because of enchanted stun and few stun juves but who wants a maestro in cp at gf? And as i said before if you thing that there's no need for a new server don't join it ! so it will have less lags and we will have more fun without u. And there is so much time till new serber would be possible you can't even garuanty if you will still play in that 15x so please keep your opinion to your self untill you will be asked if there is a need for a new serber in some kind of pool you minority .

new chorincle from zero as a reason of wipe - this is the most stupid reason could be, especially for HF.
why? lets see these new things:

# Grand Olympiad - only high lvl
# Characters - exp bonus from party available at high lvl too
# Clans - only high lvl updates, and clan halls selling ewx. you can buy them at high lvl too
# Mail System - available at high lvl too
# Party Matching System - available at high lvl too
# Interface - available at high lvl too
# Birthday System - with new server you have to wait 1 year to test it. cool
# Nevit's Adent Blessing - available at high lvl too
# Skills - available at high lvl too
# Hunting Zones - all high lvl
# Quests - all high lvl
# Items - all high lvl
# Miscellaneous - available at high lvl too

so there is absolutely nothing to test with low lvl char. HF begins at 82-85lvl only. Till that - same faking grinding.

As for crafting vespers-  its few times easier than crafting dynasty in GF.

Anyway, it's pointless discussion really, it's not up to us server will be started or not.

If they start the server - i will play there whatever rates will be, and i will nolife there again, but its not very pleasant to do that over and over again. I would better stick to x15.

please keep your opinion to your self untill you will be asked if there is a need for a new serber in some kind of pool you minority . <<< about this: its a forum, everyone has a right to speak here, so please don't tell these shi**s again.

cheers.

just as i suspected , you're a troll material to bad we're not aloud to flame people like you in general discussion.
# Grand Olympiad - only high  Mid lvl not high
# Characters - exp bonus from party available at high lvl too available at low lvl
# Clans - only high lvl updates, and clan halls selling ewx. you can buy them at high lvl too who needs ewb at high lvl
# Mail System - available at high lvl too used from low lvl
# Party Matching System - available at high lvl too more useful at server start when it's not only cp
# Interface - available at high lvl too your logic rocks
# Birthday System - with new server you have to wait 1 year to test it. cool tested that in 30x
# Nevit's Adent Blessing - available at high lvl too more useful at mid lvl
# Skills - available at high lvl too more fun to test them at low lvl pvp before everyone has rezist
# Hunting Zones - all high lvl So that means longer fun
# Quests - all high lvl almost no one does quest until 70lvl
# Items - all high lvl A grade shop is high lvl 2?
# Miscellaneous - available at high lvl too
and no one talks about wipe .. learn to read  hf starts at 60 lvl with zaken instance 40 lvl if counted with skills

If you better stick to 15x stay there , we're asking for a new server for people who wanna play and aren't playing atm like those who got bored in 5x and and were left after 30x disaster .

you have a right to speak the way you do in flame forums here you should discuss and the manner of the update no to say there is no need for a new server if you want to discus things like that you can create your own pool topic .

[qwertyu]

we're asking for a new server for people who wanna play and aren't playing atm

start on x15 then ;p