Dyes for Wind Rider

Started by proteq, January 11, 2011, 07:48:12 PM

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proteq

Hello,

I need your opinion about dyes for Wind Rider. What dyes you prefer and why?

Regards,

YeasZ



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bolo5

ill just tell u little experiment of mine on x5
i tested th with +4str dyes and pw with no dyes in pl set th with drac so anyways
without f power on th/ f death on pw dmg was pretty much the same or the pw did more dmg by like 100 /bs never varieted in way that th did more dmg, ofc after turned on skills pw did 30% more dmg than th
doublestabs without f death/mortal strike was same, and th failed few more blows than pw
i guess by that u can  easily guess what dyes decent daggers should use ;D
p.s i tested on both chars with same weapon no atribute clear blows dmg(comon separator)

vvlm

#4
+5 wit +4 str (-dex) imo, u only should go +4 con if u dont have any epics

►Kuro1n

Quote from: bolo5 on January 11, 2011, 09:13:25 PM
ill just tell u little experiment of mine on x5
i tested th with +4str dyes and pw with no dyes in pl set th with drac so anyways
without f power on th/ f death on pw dmg was pretty much the same or the pw did more dmg by like 100 /bs never varieted in way that th did more dmg, ofc after turned on skills pw did 30% more dmg than th
doublestabs without f death/mortal strike was same, and th failed few more blows than pw
i guess by that u can  easily guess what dyes decent daggers should use ;D
p.s i tested on both chars with same weapon no atribute clear blows dmg(comon separator)
What are you trying to say?

bolo5

Quote from: wooptemp on January 11, 2011, 09:31:24 PM
Quote from: bolo5 on January 11, 2011, 09:13:25 PM
ill just tell u little experiment of mine on x5
i tested th with +4str dyes and pw with no dyes in pl set th with drac so anyways
without f power on th/ f death on pw dmg was pretty much the same or the pw did more dmg by like 100 /bs never varieted in way that th did more dmg, ofc after turned on skills pw did 30% more dmg than th
doublestabs without f death/mortal strike was same, and th failed few more blows than pw
i guess by that u can  easily guess what dyes decent daggers should use ;D
p.s i tested on both chars with same weapon no atribute clear blows dmg(comon separator)
What are you trying to say?
th had like 45 or so str while pw around 40 or less, and it didnt influent that badly on dmg from stabs, almost no influence...
i guess u can take conclusions urself

►Kuro1n

Quote from: bolo5 on January 11, 2011, 09:43:19 PM
Quote from: wooptemp on January 11, 2011, 09:31:24 PM
Quote from: bolo5 on January 11, 2011, 09:13:25 PM
ill just tell u little experiment of mine on x5
i tested th with +4str dyes and pw with no dyes in pl set th with drac so anyways
without f power on th/ f death on pw dmg was pretty much the same or the pw did more dmg by like 100 /bs never varieted in way that th did more dmg, ofc after turned on skills pw did 30% more dmg than th
doublestabs without f death/mortal strike was same, and th failed few more blows than pw
i guess by that u can  easily guess what dyes decent daggers should use ;D
p.s i tested on both chars with same weapon no atribute clear blows dmg(comon separator)
What are you trying to say?
th had like 45 or so str while pw around 40 or less, and it didnt influent that badly on dmg from stabs, almost no influence...
i guess u can take conclusions urself
Well STR for skillcrits etc not damage... O o

bolo5

yeah but its like dunno below 5% diffrence in 10-12 str diffrences, at least so it appears...

Ayanee

Quote from: CPTrader on January 11, 2011, 09:34:11 PM
We are talking about PvP dyes ofc. To PvE I have WL :)

I have Draco Set, AS 150 Haste, 79 lvl,  (Haste, Celestial, Evasion)

why haste ? in gf it's useless or almost

►Kuro1n

Imo CD is quite shitty on AS... to low effect, haste might be fun for the cancelling effect no? Also faster animations, less skill lag.

CrossFirepwnz

-8 str, +4 con, +4dex

-4int, wit +4

If you go for other dyes, your a retard. :)
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Slush ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿

Quote from: wooptemp on January 11, 2011, 10:25:21 PM
Imo CD is quite shitty on AS... to low effect, haste might be fun for the cancelling effect no? Also faster animations, less skill lag.

lol


Thorkla


►Kuro1n

Quote from: Slush on January 11, 2011, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: wooptemp on January 11, 2011, 10:25:21 PM
Imo CD is quite shitty on AS... to low effect, haste might be fun for the cancelling effect no? Also faster animations, less skill lag.

lol
Compare AS CD with Dyn CD or Ica or veeper... it IS shitty. So whats so "lol"?

CrossFirepwnz

Quote from: wooptemp on January 12, 2011, 12:04:51 AM
Quote from: Slush on January 11, 2011, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: wooptemp on January 11, 2011, 10:25:21 PM
Imo CD is quite shitty on AS... to low effect, haste might be fun for the cancelling effect no? Also faster animations, less skill lag.

lol
Compare AS CD with Dyn CD or Ica or veeper... it IS shitty. So whats so "lol"?

Please, quit this thread.
Always stand your ground, no matter how much strong force will be against you.

ayozito

it depend on your playstyle

you can go for +str if you want faster kill (critical skills (x2 damage))
you can go for +dex if you want be "ninja" xD
you can go for +con if you want last more (for me this is simply stupid, if you want be a hp box just make warrior class)

what you choice, maximize it, else its useless also

and following the offtopic, AS haste is for bd and sws for cancel faster. Dagger always with CD

YeasZ

don't forget that only Backstab and lethal blow can crit anyway


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zosiek

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Quote from: YeasZ on January 12, 2011, 01:31:45 AM
don't forget that only Backstab and lethal blow can crit anyway

ye and you r rarely made to use deadly cos everything dies in 2 stabs +lb, >60%
or 1 >40% ~
with pl i got like 45-50% crit rate

+5 str ftw
personaly got -con but its up to you
and hf when you get used to step>stab>invalid tg ;p

Thorkla

Quote from: zosiek on January 12, 2011, 02:04:01 PM
Quote from: YeasZ on January 12, 2011, 01:31:45 AM
don't forget that only Backstab and lethal blow can crit anyway

ye and you r rarely made to use deadly cos everything dies in 2 stabs +lb, >60%
or 1 >40% ~
with pl i got like 45-50% crit rate

+5 str ftw
personaly got -con but its up to you
and hf when you get used to step>stab>invalid tg ;p

Playing with -5 con in kamaels chronicle ? its like perm stun...

YeasZ

Quote from: zosiek on January 12, 2011, 02:04:01 PM
Quote from: YeasZ on January 12, 2011, 01:31:45 AM
don't forget that only Backstab and lethal blow can crit anyway

ye and you r rarely made to use deadly cos everything dies in 2 stabs +lb, >60%
or 1 >40% ~
with pl i got like 45-50% crit rate

+5 str ftw
personaly got -con but its up to you
and hf when you get used to step>stab>invalid tg ;p
lol xD


vvlm

ayozito

i play with -con also and no problem

►Kuro1n

Quote from: CrossFirepwnz on January 12, 2011, 12:10:15 AM
Quote from: wooptemp on January 12, 2011, 12:04:51 AM
Quote from: Slush on January 11, 2011, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: wooptemp on January 11, 2011, 10:25:21 PM
Imo CD is quite shitty on AS... to low effect, haste might be fun for the cancelling effect no? Also faster animations, less skill lag.

lol
Compare AS CD with Dyn CD or Ica or veeper... it IS shitty. So whats so "lol"?

Please, quit this thread.
If you gimme candies or cookies i will. Imo theres no better or worse between CD and Haste on a AS its personal preference but the CD effect from AS is still funny low compared to the others no matter what you say. : )

Ayanee

well low it's still better than nothing ...
and show me witch  dager whill use normal hits in pvp to cancel so that haste to count?

Relic

Quote from: Thorkla on January 12, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
Quote from: zosiek on January 12, 2011, 02:04:01 PM
Quote from: YeasZ on January 12, 2011, 01:31:45 AM
don't forget that only Backstab and lethal blow can crit anyway

ye and you r rarely made to use deadly cos everything dies in 2 stabs +lb, >60%
or 1 >40% ~
with pl i got like 45-50% crit rate

+5 str ftw
personaly got -con but its up to you
and hf when you get used to step>stab>invalid tg ;p

Playing with -5 con in kamaels chronicle ? its like perm stun...
++con is making just as much difference as +4 bow compared to +3 one.
To avoid stun you either run around with mw MJ(check some tests in guru) or stun resist epics,stacking ++con just for stun resist is simply dumb.
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