December Hero list

[Lloth]

wtt hero Ghost Sentinel for +15 No Grade dagger

[Lionna]

Kunta got hero with 6 points ... can't believe it ...

[pokemontrainer]

me and gustav wont do december oly for example

[Arris]

OMFG so much EMO RAGE from ETC. OK I will reply AGAIN becouse it is going too far.

even having almost all clan playing 4 more than 2 months all geared and stuff

FAIL => NF is young clan and we don't have many ppl who play with us for 2 months (players change, drop server/game so we have some newcomers) and we are not all geared.

And now becouse etc need competition witch clans like nofear won't make (if they're at the same lvl as they were whyle i been in an ally with them ) becouse etc saw that those clans could make competition in the future not not when half of clan is still running in appela

So basically, Meows and uNiQues who for me just licked ass of ETC at Goddard (it's sad that they couldn't do a thing when it was around 70 vs 50) are given time to exp, gear themselves that NF never had. It was "WAR BACK!" from the beggining so ETC could enjoy PvP in S vs A grades.

For so long time we were almost the only ones who fought vs you. Tell me, how is it fun to get crushed by hero party/zerg party (Baium) over and over again. Blocked HB, exp and quest locations too. ETC lvl 85, NF lvl 79-80 becouse for EXP we had to hide somewhere. Yay, so fun. Competition on equal terms. MinDiUse, about RW i will just say that: when I saw that when we were going to Baium, you refused to come becouse you were doing Gracia Instance... and PM's on hero shout, well... that explains everything I guess.

that some doombreaker can be hero over DagothUr

Doombringer, and idk what clan you mean. At least we never considered Doombringer hero possible. But Gezas won by luck and he should keep quiet (not like yesterday) since he was lucky that Renevan got farmed by other ETC members (+1 for Gust4v if his yesterday reply to Gezas on hero chat was honest). We had few 2nd place, also lost some points to ETC farmers. And other classes, well... I don't even know if we have nobless on some of them since some players changed.

You could still have Goddard and maybe Giran, but your leader were so retarded and pussied out. What advantages you have from 1 Sided War now? We always pk'ed you in Hellbound or other hunting Spots, so finally shut up.

Trashtalk. You would just come with your alts like always with bigger zerg of hero. But this time you decided to grab Meow and uNiQues dicks.

What we had from wars with you? No spots, no equip and army of asslickers who will sell info where we are. Coming with hero pt or 2-3 pt vs 1 pt and after fight flame like little kids "noobs" "hahaa" "anyone died? xD". I never saw reply to "GF", mostly (even when we killed some of no-hero party) we saw "Lool... when io was afk". On forum the same. Not even a slight of respect or smth. Just flame, flame and more flame even though noone even tried to fight for Baium(corrected) and other epics for quite a lot of time. You just increased your "pressure" becouse that is fun to crush weaker (i admit that) clan. And now what, now you are full of HYPOCRISY offering time to gear up for other clans but refusing that right for NF who fought vs you all the time.

One last thing about that "bad leading". Explain that a bit more since I'm "retarded" NF member. (I don't care if someone like Lionna/Lloth/Chris will call this post QQ or not).

[pokemontrainer]

im allways saying gf only

[Jacky]

heh, stop cry NF members, those are exactly the problems u are facing in NF, u have doombringer and with all points what did he has made u could help clan to get at least 2-3 heores in chosen classes, YEA u dont even know if u have such classes...good example of desorganisation and randomness in that clan, dissmiss that sh1t already, NF is blocking some potentionally good players for other clans. (And no Gezas wasnt lucky, it wanst luck at all, maybe u will learn one day how oly works). and btw i even never commented any pvps with NF cuz it was terrible beating with 1 party easilly 3 NF...WTF is that...thats not even gf so kept silence. The ones who were actually fighting us at least at some competition level wasnt NF at all, but the other clans like DH, TZ, and ruskies.

[Arris]

heh, stop cry NF membersm those are exactly the problems u are facing in NF, u are doombringer and with all points what u have made u could help clan to get at least 2-3 heores in chosen classes, YEA u dont even know if u have such classes...good example of desorganisation and randomness in that clan, dissmiss that sh1t already, NF is blocking some petantially good players for other clans. (And no Gezas wasnt lucky, it wanst luck at all, maybe u will learn one day how oly works).

I earned all of my points yesterday and was ready to give them, too bad that i had no chance (too many randoms and farmers). For what clans? xD Tell me please. I can tell you that we don't have moonlight sentiel, Trickster and SS for sure. And I can't tell you more since idk what "other" classes you mean. So your exaple fail this moment. And turn off your emo rage Jacky.

EDIT: Hero party or lvl 85 party in full equip vs 3 NF party 79-80? :> /care

Still waiting for explaining "bad leading" and telling me what clans those good players should join.

[Lloth]

Show me topic, where I wrote "this is QQ thread"..

Its your problem about lvls... You have here Vitality event, you can buy cakes from players... I made 81-85 with 4cakes.

We have newcomers too without equipment.

Some our heroes has 5-20 points MAX.. Its enemys fail..make some oly organization.
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I remember funny pvps vs NF like near antharas heart.. 5+ partys vs 1 our party(lires party)... Flame of Invicibility +3x mage bubble.. that was fun
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[pokemontrainer]

heh, stop cry NF membersm those are exactly the problems u are facing in NF, u are doombringer and with all points what u have made u could help clan to get at least 2-3 heores in chosen classes, YEA u dont even know if u have such classes...good example of desorganisation and randomness in that clan, dissmiss that sh1t already, NF is blocking some petantially good players for other clans. (And no Gezas wasnt lucky, it wanst luck at all, maybe u will learn one day how oly works).

I earned all of my points yesterday and was ready to give them, too bad that i had no chance (too many randoms and farmers). For what clans? xD Tell me please. I can tell you that we don't have moonlight sentiel, Trickster and SS for sure. And I can't tell you more since idk what "other" classes you mean. So your exaple fail this moment. And turn off your emo rage Jacky.

EDIT: Hero party or lvl 85 party in full equip vs 3 NF party 79-80? :> /care

Still waiting for explaining "bad leading" and telling me what clans those good players should join.

l2p, feeding last day is worst case

[Arris]

heh, stop cry NF membersm those are exactly the problems u are facing in NF, u are doombringer and with all points what u have made u could help clan to get at least 2-3 heores in chosen classes, YEA u dont even know if u have such classes...good example of desorganisation and randomness in that clan, dissmiss that sh1t already, NF is blocking some petantially good players for other clans. (And no Gezas wasnt lucky, it wanst luck at all, maybe u will learn one day how oly works).

I earned all of my points yesterday and was ready to give them, too bad that i had no chance (too many randoms and farmers). For what clans? xD Tell me please. I can tell you that we don't have moonlight sentiel, Trickster and SS for sure. And I can't tell you more since idk what "other" classes you mean. So your exaple fail this moment. And turn off your emo rage Jacky.

EDIT: Hero party or lvl 85 party in full equip vs 3 NF party 79-80? :> /care

Still waiting for explaining "bad leading" and telling me what clans those good players should join.

l2p, feeding last day is worst case

That's why we didn't risk yesterday.

[Jacky]

I earned all of my points yesterday and was ready to give them, too bad that i had no chance (too many randoms and farmers). For what clans? xD Tell me please. I can tell you that we don't have moonlight sentiel, Trickster and SS for sure. And I can't tell you more since idk what "other" classes you mean. So your exaple fail this moment. And turn off your emo rage Jacky.

EDIT: Hero party or lvl 85 party in full equip vs 3 NF party 79-80? :> /care

Still waiting for explaining "bad leading" and telling me what clans those good players should join.

U was ready to give em oh wait but u didnt give em cuz it "impossible"...SURE, i wont be telling u all the classes who wasnt feeded its fuking work of somebody who will lead oly in some competetive clan, so NF doesnt know, ...suprisingly. U are only trying to excuses here the lame organisation of your clan, I still dont undestand why u want to defend it when u know its true.
Sad but true many many ppl who were fighting us from nf werent 79 nor 80 at all, but fully equipped 81+ chars with also learned skills, which u all show off in oly matches, plus some this lowbies 79-80 ofcourse.
And btw emoraging is your previous page WALL of text post kid, give it up already.

[Jacky]

That's why we didn't risk yesterday.

Thank god u didnt lost some of your second places, ROFL..................geeeeez

[Arris]

That's why we didn't risk yesterday.

Thank god u didnt lost some of your second places, ROFL..................geeeeez

Becouse we know how many points you have ROFL. No, you don't have wall of text posts even though it's still the same content... perhaps I want to defend it becouse as far as I remember (perhaps you don't) I belong to this clan. I know it from inside and for me blaming young clan for bad organisation is not convicing.

[greennight]

you know that there is a way how to know how many points who has ,right ? its all about calculating how much points you win from someone or loose. thats all.

[Arris]

you know that there is a way how to know how many points who has ,right ? its all about calculating how much points you win from someone or loose. thats all.

Especially if you don't see them at olympiad/don't meet them.

[greennight]

you know that there is a way how to know how many points who has ,right ? its all about calculating how much points you win from someone or loose. thats all.

Especially if you don't see them at olympiad/don't meet them.

you could see dagothur ,gezas, leosmares on olympiad but you kept feeding renewan,demonos and your kamalols. gf

[join3r]

FAIL => NF is young clan and we don't have many ppl who play with us for 2 months (players change, drop server/game so we have some newcomers) and we are not all geared.

I'm sorry Arris, but we have also new players. We can gear them up really fast thanks to epics. I understand that you can't get epics because we are blocking them, but you could have get few epics already and you didn't because you had wrong party setup and apparently didn't read anything on the internet on how to kill that epic. You can always take antharas / valakas / tezza from us, you don't need special gear for that or anything. I wont tell you how because unlike my leadership I don't want to help my enemies.

So basically, Meows and uNiQues who for me just licked ass of ETC at Goddard (it's sad that they couldn't do a thing when it was around 70 vs 50) are given time to exp, gear themselves that NF never had. It was "WAR BACK!" from the beggining so ETC could enjoy PvP in S vs A grades.

Don't get me wrong I hate Meows as the next guy, but they have some knowledge. I don't doubt that there is knowledge in your clan also, but I think that the people with knowledge perhaps don't have a big word in the clan or maybe someone thinks they know better.

For so long time we were almost the only ones who fought vs you. Tell me, how is it fun to get crushed by hero party/zerg party (Baium) over and over again.

Yep, I know it was a hard time for you guys. I disagree however on the point, that level/equip made you loose. The failure to steal epics from us did that. You didn't have books & jewels from them.

And other classes, well... I don't even know if we have nobless on some of them since some players changed.

Prepare them for this month. I think you can steal some heroes if you nolife a bit during the holidays.

What we had from wars with you? No spots, no equip and army of asslickers who will sell info where we are. Coming with hero pt or 2-3 pt vs 1 pt and after fight flame like little kids "noobs" "hahaa" "anyone died? xD". I never saw reply to "GF", mostly (even when we killed some of no-hero party) we saw "Lool... when io was afk". On forum the same. Not even a slight of respect or smth. Just flame, flame and more flame even though noone even tried to fight for Baium(corrected) and other epics for quite a lot of time. You just increased your "pressure" becouse that is fun to crush weaker (i admit that) clan. And now what, now you are full of HYPOCRISY offering time to gear up for other clans but refusing that right for NF who fought vs you all the time.

I agree that there are many flamers around. But they are in your clan also, so we are both guilty I guess.
No time would be enough in your current state I think. A clan of your size should be able to kill antharas in 1st try no matter what. I didn't see your antharas force, but the valakas one consisted of destro parties.

One last thing about that "bad leading". Explain that a bit more since I'm "retarded" NF member.

Your leaders don't seem to know much about the olympiad or epics. Thats fine if they would leave someone in the clan who knows those thing to lead those particular events. Also I think you would be able to get few heroes with a good olympiad leader. You maybe can get some heroes anyway, but we don't really see any coordinated ways of you doing that.

I know in the current state it is very hard to win open pvp against us, but thats not the only way to fight us. Meow seems to know that, but you don't.

[Jacky]

you know that there is a way how to know how many points who has ,right ? its all about calculating how much points you win from someone or loose. thats all.

Especially if you don't see them at olympiad/don't meet them.

Its all about organisation, how many times u need to hear it till u understand?
Why you dont know classes on oly, why u dont know how many points/matches ur enemy could have, why are u signing to retarded rounds, why u keep points on chars where its useless, why u have so many nobless and 0 heroes?

[Arris]

you know that there is a way how to know how many points who has ,right ? its all about calculating how much points you win from someone or loose. thats all.

Especially if you don't see them at olympiad/don't meet them.

you could see dagothur ,gezas, leosmares on olympiad but you kept feeding renewan,demonos and your kamalols. gf

I repeat, we didn't feed Kamaels (And Renevan too, if someone feeded him, it wasn't us but he was doing really good and if he didn't fight yesterday and keep points, I guess he could be hero). I started yesterday with idk... like 7 points. +1 for join3r. At least someone understood what I meant. The problem is just as I wrote, we have shifting pl. They join, stopl playing and leave or play for few hours a week. Just recently we started to catch up with online (im % means) and we are "researching" (hah, lack of other word ) L2 Gracia Final and L2Off features (since most of our players came from L2j servers and that is huge difference in balance etc.), It's hard to recruit people when they are afraid of war with ETC. (Already saw random in giran that borrowed adena from me and after few minutes when he checked monument he returned it and left server... xP). Also let me to correct you, we didn't have destro parties for Valakas. 2 Destros (max) don't make a party out of all ppl we had there. Valakas, Antharas, Baium, we must keep increasing our online and as i wrote, we are trying to do it. And we are trying to correct our mistakes for next time, It's not like we will keep doing the same thing.

[Lionna]

I earned all of my points yesterday and was ready to give them, too bad that i had no chance (too many randoms and farmers). For what clans? xD Tell me please. I can tell you that we don't have moonlight sentiel, Trickster and SS for sure. And I can't tell you more since idk what "other" classes you mean. So your exaple fail this moment. And turn off your emo rage Jacky.

EDIT: Hero party or lvl 85 party in full equip vs 3 NF party 79-80? :> /care

Still waiting for explaining "bad leading" and telling me what clans those good players should join.

humpf ... always Heroes or 85 as excuse. We even killed you at chimera spot 9vs18 with 1 death in Party and we have no 85 Chars, S80 and didnt use any Heroskill.

[Arris]

I earned all of my points yesterday and was ready to give them, too bad that i had no chance (too many randoms and farmers). For what clans? xD Tell me please. I can tell you that we don't have moonlight sentiel, Trickster and SS for sure. And I can't tell you more since idk what "other" classes you mean. So your exaple fail this moment. And turn off your emo rage Jacky.

EDIT: Hero party or lvl 85 party in full equip vs 3 NF party 79-80? :> /care

Still waiting for explaining "bad leading" and telling me what clans those good players should join.

humpf ... always Heroes or 85 as excuse. We even killed you at chimera spot 9vs18 with 1 death in Party and we have no 85 Chars, S80 and didnt use any Heroskill.

Last PvP I remember at HB when we had double sided war (if you mean that period) i remember that icon at buff skills with "Heroic Dread" hmm...

[Lionna]

It was when you already stopped war. Anyway I read "Valakas, Antharas, Baium, we must keep increasing our online and as i wrote", ehm you need only 45 people to kill Antharas or Valakas and those epics are sometimes up for more than 8 Hours.

[Arris]

It was when you already stopped war. Anyway I read "Valakas, Antharas, Baium, we must keep increasing our online and as i wrote", ehm you need only 45 people to kill Antharas or Valakas and those epics are sometimes up for more than 8 Hours.

We will see what future will bring us At least we are not going to disband.

[killer625]

keep on trying ! thats the spirit !

[MinDiuSe]

I will write about that bad leading of yours 
So it will be all from that point that i saw when we where in an ally 
when i opened party info in coman chanel at first we started louthing becouse demonos was shouting that he's lf bd and one party had 2  or 3 bds i don't remember coretcly but the way you gather parties was a disaster . We allied you becouse we needed a big clan becouse we were small one to help us to get a castle . And about that biaum - our leader was already near emo rage mode to leave the server and 4 etc i would like to know how much points did bh/ws had when they became hero