Archers?

[Phyriel]

I see its the least populated class in general. Is it really this bad with them in gracia final? Could you tell whats the real reason ppl dont play them? Is it because its hard for solo exp also that people dont take em in party? How about pvp with them mid lvl - high end ?

[baho]

They are not ownage class like in older chronicles anymore, so people run away from them. In a proper, experienced party they can still be very deadly!

[Phyriel]

Would u say its even worth to roll one because i guess majority of poeple think stereotypes and will judge archer usefullness by how populated class it is.

[HaugeH]

If you dont have good CP and clan to support you archers are useless coz they need a lot of gear

[Guardian]

archers are nerfed like hell u need imba eq etc if you want to do something in pvp with archer.

[gw44tt]

archers are nerfed like hell u need imba eq etc if you want to do something in pvp with archer.

how about +30 decrease pdef?

[Sabor]

archers are still good , if the CP members are good , and the clan that they belong to is able to kill AQ or Baium

cop/windstorm isnt a big deal when trickster/soulhound exists. also CC on an archer pt is rly deadly

[Guardian]

archers are nerfed like hell u need imba eq etc if you want to do something in pvp with archer.

how about +30 decrease pdef?

read again words marked in red.

[ayozito]

I see its the least populated class in general. Is it really this bad with them in gracia final? Could you tell whats the real reason ppl dont play them? Is it because its hard for solo exp also that people dont take em in party? How about pvp with them mid lvl - high end ?

i exp with archer almost like if i was a nuker. You just need the correct spot.

as ppl told you, archers are still good. But for this, you need gear and know how to play an archer. Buffs ins't the problem, because there are buff that decrease critical damage, but also there are others buff that increase it. I am wondering how many archers are using the crafter buff + rogue long shot.

[gw44tt]

archers are nerfed like hell u need imba eq etc if you want to do something in pvp with archer.

how about +30 decrease pdef?

youre guardian guy with critical certificate on BP, gtfo

[Pel8]

Just worse than others classes, only worth to have 1 pt in clan for hopin heros.

[Guardian]

archers are nerfed like hell u need imba eq etc if you want to do something in pvp with archer.

how about +30 decrease pdef?

youre guardian guy with critical certificate on BP, gtfo

why so mad

[Soul`]

Just worse than others classes, only worth to have 1 pt in clan for hopin heros.

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dworfs army crafting bssb the way to go

[Timido]

archers are still good , if the CP members are good , and the clan that they belong to is able to kill AQ or Baium

cop/windstorm isnt a big deal when trickster/soulhound exists. also CC on an archer pt is rly deadly

CC is good for archers just for defensive purposes i guess..
the critical increases only for melee if i m right
unfortunately =l

[zosiek]

best archer setup?
3x trick + slh
rest archers simply suck

[Timido]

best archer setup?
3x trick + slh
rest archers simply suck

clueless.. tricksters only hurt a bit through twin shot.. that setup would need more mana than nukers =p

1 trickster + 1 slh + 2 archers

[Raziel]

best archer setup?
3x trick + slh
rest archers simply suck

clueless.. tricksters only hurt a bit through twin shot.. that setup would need more mana than nukers =p

1 trickster + 1 slh + 2 archers

this setup, PR+SR imo

Just worse than others classes, only worth to have 1 pt in clan for hopin heros.

they are still needed on mass pvp

[1s1knhjs)))]

Archers are still decent, but you can't target randomly and 1crit ppl like in c5. HE can reach like 1450 range on snipe (with sub skills +200 and +50 from archers will). they are good at pvp with huge numbers where they have meatshield and can just stand behind and shot without taking dmg. When it's party vs party or smth similar, archers won't do so well due to all those resist cirt dmg/archery buffs.

If you don't plan to go in such big pvp, i suggest to play smth else, unless you really like archers, but dont expect too much.

[gw44tt]

Archers are still decent, but you can't target randomly and 1crit ppl like in c5. HE can reach like 1450 range on snipe (with sub skills +200 and +50 from archers will). they are good at pvp with huge numbers where they have meatshield and can just stand behind and shot without taking dmg. When it's party vs party or smth similar, archers won't do so well due to all those resist cirt dmg/archery buffs.

If you don't plan to go in such big pvp, i suggest to play smth else, unless you really like archers, but dont expect too much.

snipe = fixed range if im right

[mindaz3]

Unlike other classes, archers power depends most on basic stats - P.atk, Crit rate/dmg, Atk. spd, etc. (to maximize that you need top equipment: bow, armor, jewelery (especially AQ+BAIUM).), while other classes power depends most only on skills, for example daggers or mages. And for that archers becomes most expensive class to play.

Mages can depend on very basic gear with no problems. You can see it in the game, there are Lvl. 78+ mages with B grade from shop and they can easily make you sh*t bricks in pvp. While the same Lvl. archer with B grade equipment is just a free pvp point.

[asachiara]

From may point of view the Archers were dependent on critical hits from a normal attack not skills and this with buff against criticals make their life much harder as it was in older chronicles.. Difference between dagger and archer is that dagger can enchant skill to power or elemenet which is far over the Patk of the archer in addition they have 2-3 strong skills with backstab which ignores CP...  CP is problem for archers as on mass pvp with shirts and clan skills also Pyjamas have 4k CP with cp pots and Dominators.... and archer need to outdmg it while dagger with backstab in the right time not necessarily need to come over CP (not to mention half kill).

From what i heard from official servers archers are being resetup to attack speed instead to have criticals as they have recognized the advantage in the Patk + element in hand with stacked attack speed  (with s84 equip ofc) to be better as to shoot slow and relay on criticals which effects are drastically decrease by buff and pvp bonuses (fame)...

So the true is that archers are really gear dependent and need their correct sub-class skills much more that the rest of DDs ( not taking olly farimg in accounts only regular pve-pvp outside or sieges)

[Phyriel]

Thank you all for sharing ur thoughts. Im gonna make another topic asking for 2 more classes if you guys wouldnt mind coming over and droping some of ur thoughts it would help me a lot. Cheers

[Sardy]

Screw slh, you need warlocks to utilize their buff for maximum crit damage. Definitely in mass pvp, wouldn't be so sure for 9v9, but still warlocks have some nasty skills of their own.

[Flaky]

archers are nerfed like hell u need imba eq etc if you want to do something in pvp with archer.

Mj Light set + DB with Focus .. and you can pwn alots of people.. Don't need extra eq .. belive me ..

[nobeno]

http://www.filefront.com/17599916/Troy---Frintezza-01.12.10.avi/#   

You have stream   - best pt setup  for an archer imo

And ofc you may need some clan help  , you can use assist on cancel sticks  / other clan members slhs/ tricksters 


And never the last replace  the trickster spot with a warlock in your cp and get some good equips .