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Started by CommunismFTW, February 05, 2010, 06:44:08 PM

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xtM

I don't understand why you don't are already back GM, all the community seems to like you, and everybody is saying that you did your work good, so I hope they think about your , and set you back in the team.

Aibo

yea yea that was great, everything's changed while the guy was a mod.

yea. right.

Ltd

Quote from: Aibo on February 25, 2010, 04:54:47 PM
yea yea that was great, everything's changed while the guy was a mod.

yea. right.

Jelous spotted

Aibo

and still noone told me, why i should be jealous.

VaronRojo failed for 1 reason - haven't found the balance between players and administration. you can't just jump in and do what you think is right, believe me. (and i believe i've explained the "uneasy" situation to him when he was assigned as a mod)

yea, people like you will jump ot of their pants screaming "yay he cares for us, woot", but that's not the only thing GM/moderator should care about, and that alone doesn't change anything. that'll be just a false hope.

and even if someone will change something, 90% of people won't even remember it in a month or so. :D

Aibo



Crysillion

Quote from: Aibo on February 25, 2010, 05:29:40 PM
and still noone told me, why i should be jealous.

VaronRojo failed for 1 reason - haven't found the balance between players and administration. you can't just jump in and do what you think is right, believe me.

What he thought was "right" was a shared ideal within the community without breaking any rules as far as the anal Administration is concerned. If this is not finding a proper balance between players and administration then I do not know what is.

This is not VaronRojo making a mistake, this is the Administration in a whole making a mistake. It's not really anything new. Why were you dismissed, Aibo? Pretty shitty reasons, if I recall correctly. The Administration team wanted you to take every order without hesitation, and pretty much just be their bitch. Not a job anyone wants to really be. The Administration frowns upon initiative which is exactly why they...

1.) Fail at hiring moderators who do their job properly.
2.) Fail at bothunting because they don't hire anyone to bothunt because that'd be counter-productive with the way they do things around here.
3.) Fail at enforcement themselves unless you make a direct attack against them.

Because these things do not fall under the direct interest of the Administration itself. There is no "balance" between community and Administration. It's all about the money, end of. You do something they didn't tell you to do, regardless of how they liked it or not, you will be removed in fear of you not being some kind of robot slave they hoped for you to be.

Easily, the worst bunch of Administrators I've seen in my entire life of online gaming. Don't you worry, I'm sure I'll be banned for this post. The truth hurts them more than anything. Not that I care, these boards have nothing going for them.

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Quote from: Szaket on February 18, 2010, 03:26:19 PM
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 18, 2010, 02:54:39 PM
What exactly is wrong with the vitality system? I don't get it. Does it end too fast? Does it take too long to recharge back?

Here you got: http://lineage2.rochand.com/Knowledge/vitality.php

Example:

avarage exp time:

                               RPG:                                      Retail:
Vitality lvl 4           10 min                                   10-15 min
Vitality lvl 3           10 min                                   20-25 min
Vitality lvl 2           15 min                                   ~ 1 hour
Vitality lvl 1           don't know                             ~ 5 min


refuel time being offline:

                               RPG:                                      Retail:
Vitality lvl 4           ~ 1 day                                   7,5 hours
Vitality lvl 3           ~ 1 day                                   15 hours
Vitality lvl 2           don't know                             53,33 hours
Vitality lvl 1           don't know                             6,5 hours

Finaly:

Retail like you can exp ~ 1 hour 45 minutes on vitality and to refuel it back to full you will need 83 hours (4,5 days)

RPG - you can exp on vitality ~40 minutes? and to refuel it you will need....? (looks like much longer then 4,5 days)


IMO vitality system like this is a big lol, vitality is for players that cant/want play 24/24h but still want to play (for example 1 hour/day, so they can use the vitality) but play 40 minutes and then wait a week to refuel it isn't inviting  ;)


Vitality Consumption

Vitality Points Consumed = ( (Exp) / (Level^2)*100 ) / 9

Exp = Base exp gained from mob Level = Mob level

Example

Example 1 1xHP Mob Bone Grinder 12,903xp Level 70 ( (12,903) / (70^2)*100 ) / 9 Vit Consumed = 29 points.

Example 2 5xHP Mob Karik 32,922xp Level 70 ( (32,922) / (70^2)*100 ) / 9 Vit Consumed = 75 points.

This means even if you only gain 1 exp point your vitality 'points' will still change. If you kill a gremlin at level 80 and gain 1 exp point you will lose the same number of vitality points as you would if you were only level 1.

In the example, the Karik has approx. 5x the HP as the Bone Grinder and removes 2.5x the vitality and only gives 2.5x the experience. With this said, unless you're in a full group for the XP bonus, don't hunt anything with any multiplier - go for the 1x mobs if you're specifically looking to make good use of your vitality.


Vitality Points

Level 0 - 1 contains 240 points. Those 240 points take 1 hour of being logged out to regain. Level 1 - 2 contains 1,560 points. Those 1,560 points take 6hr30m of being logged out to regain. Level 2 - 3 contains 12,800 points. Those 12,800 points take 53hr20m of being logged out to regain. Level 3 - 4 contains 3,600 points. Those 1,560 points take 15 hours of being logged out to regain. Level 4 - Max contains 1,800 points. Those 1,800 points take 7hr30m of being logged out to regain

Max vitality points = 20,000 taking a total 83hr 20m to regain (approx. 3.5 days from 0 - 20,000).
You get 1 point regained for every minute in a peace zone.
You get 4 points regained every minute when logged out.
From lvl 76+ the vitality consumption rate is 1.5x normal. From 79 its 2x normal.
Vitality herbs reverse the process of killing mobs. No additional bonus.
Parties increase your vitality drop too but this hasn't been worked out.
Raids generally return 20-30 points, not calculated exactly yet.
Additional exceptions which aren't listed apply.


http://www.lineagejunkies.com/wiki/Vitality#Earn_Vitality

Aibo

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Quote from: Crysillion on February 25, 2010, 06:17:25 PMThis is not VaronRojo making a mistake, this is the Administration in a whole making a mistake. It's not really anything new. Why were you dismissed, Aibo? Pretty shitty reasons, if I recall correctly. The Administration team wanted you to take every order without hesitation, and pretty much just be their bitch. Not a job anyone wants to really be. The Administration frowns upon initiative which is exactly why they...

and i didn't say he made a mistake, i said he failed. even though he was doing the right thing, imo. and honestly it was a surprise to me that he was removed so fast.

as for shitty ways, i wouldn't say that it's true for the everyone in the administration, but pretty much it is, or turns out in the end.
like kicking out the very few GMs/moderators they have is not a very smart move. especially when they haven't done anything to deserve that. and especially the day after moderator is even hired.

but administration runs the server (and community cannot change that), that's why balance is needed. cause i doubt that "unity" of community and administration is ever possible here, though it would be ideal.

Ltd

Yea! all the community hope, that varonrojo will come back soon, he was doing all fine

BadDude

Quote from: Aibo on February 25, 2010, 06:32:37 PM
Quote from: Crysillion on February 25, 2010, 06:17:25 PMThis is not VaronRojo making a mistake, this is the Administration in a whole making a mistake. It's not really anything new. Why were you dismissed, Aibo? Pretty shitty reasons, if I recall correctly. The Administration team wanted you to take every order without hesitation, and pretty much just be their bitch. Not a job anyone wants to really be. The Administration frowns upon initiative which is exactly why they...

and i didn't say he made a mistake, i said he failed. even though he was doing the right thing, imo. and honestly it was a surprise to me that he was removed so fast.

as for shitty ways, i wouldn't say that it's true for the everyone in the administration, but pretty much it is, or turns out in the end.
like kicking out the very few GMs/moderators they have is not a very smart move. especially when they haven't done anything to deserve that. and especially the day after moderator is even hired.

but administration runs the server (and community cannot change that), that's why balance is needed. cause i doubt that "unity" of community and administration is ever possible here, though it would be ideal.

first of all if u become a lil part of staff u shouldnt do/write anything what would have any influence on admins/server, u should stay non-sided. After i saw the topic about the cakes i was pretty sure varonjo will lose his mod status pretty quick - its not that admins r so mean here, its like that everywhere, if u do something ur boss doesnt like - u will be warned or kicked. maybe the punishment was too hard but its not to us to decide about that.
about the unity of community and admins - it exists only on servers with very small community

and my addon:
i much more appreciate if they write "we cant fix sod atm" than when other server owners lie to ppl "it will be working soon", or the more "on time" example: we r under DDOS attack.

Shabaka

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