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Title: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Icoshimo on August 20, 2010, 11:07:13 AM
We have been banned on 20.08.2010 in about 8:30am GMT +2 by GM AlexUS for multiboxing and this is unfair!!! At my home i have modem with wireless connection 1 PC and 1 laptop. I was playing on PC with 3 clients (JoanOfArc, Annyhilator & C4m) and my sister was on laptop with Myrtle. When we get ported i try to talk with GM to explain him this but he didnt respond and he left the game. I understand that on IP check the PC and laptop will be with same IP's but when you track LAN card serial number you will see that they are different. If you want video prove my skype is "Icoshimo".

http://img205.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=81337392.jpg       (Conversation with AlexUS)
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Guardian on August 20, 2010, 12:09:35 PM
yeah we all have "sisters and brothers on l2" do u really think admins are so dumb ? :D
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Zent on August 20, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
we want a photo of ur sister
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Icoshimo on August 20, 2010, 12:24:32 PM
Dudes it was rly my sister that played.
Ok 1 example : Last year i was in dormentory in my university and i was playing with that laptop with wireless connection. I have about 8-9 friends that play with me in same server with same wireless connection and that means same IP (Different LAN CARD serial number).

P.S. My sister is 11 years old she know how to pres right mouse botton on my name for assist and atk\petatk macro .... horny ppls!!!
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: clockman on August 20, 2010, 12:47:09 PM
GM can't check in game mac address, he can see only IP.
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Guardian on August 20, 2010, 12:53:33 PM
Quote from: Icoshimo on August 20, 2010, 12:24:32 PM
Dudes it was rly my sister that played.
Ok 1 example : Last year i was in dormentory in my university and i was playing with that laptop with wireless connection. I have about 8-9 friends that play with me in same server with same wireless connection and that means same IP (Different LAN CARD serial number).

P.S. My sister is 11 years old she know how to pres right mouse botton on my name for assist and atk\petatk macro .... horny ppls!!!
ss or never happened.
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: sNd ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on August 20, 2010, 12:54:05 PM
multibox - get banned!   :(
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Icoshimo on August 20, 2010, 12:58:50 PM
Quote from: clockman on August 20, 2010, 12:47:09 PM
GM can't check in game mac address, he can see only IP.
http://www.youngzsoft.net/cc-get-mac-address/ and whats that then ????

Quote from: sNd on August 20, 2010, 12:54:05 PM
multibox - get banned!   :(
Its not multibox its just 2 computers in home and 2 persons that play so we can have 6 clients right (3 clients per person\computer) we had 4 !!!
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Strenki on August 20, 2010, 01:03:50 PM
I agree with Icoshimo, his issue should be checked.
I have my PC and notebook with same IP. I will start 4 clients and get ban aswell? thats unfair
rule is 3 clients per PC if Iam not mistaken:
''1.3 Log in more than 3 characters (opened clients) simultaneously.'
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: AwakenDemon on August 20, 2010, 01:08:54 PM
I also have 2 PC in my home with router on same IP. So when i log 2 clients and my girl log 2 clients we will get ban also?
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: piot on August 20, 2010, 02:06:02 PM
so how old is that sister of yours ?
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: LvniePoo on August 20, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
Yes you will, and it's the way it should be. There's no way the administration can check how many of your family members are playing from x numbers of PC. It's 3 clients per IP, the rule says it clearly.
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: bolo5 on August 20, 2010, 02:09:52 PM
picture of girl mby
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: AwakenDemon on August 20, 2010, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: LvniePoo on August 20, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
Yes you will, and it's the way it should be. There's no way the administration can check how many of your family members are playing from x numbers of PC. It's 3 clients per IP, the rule says it clearly.
there is allways ways to show how many PC`s u have in home. Verry simple to show screens from Mac`s of lan cards. And idea about how many family members are playing.. i wont even comment it.
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Icoshimo on August 20, 2010, 02:37:02 PM
Quote from: LvniePoo on August 20, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
Yes you will, and it's the way it should be. There's no way the administration can check how many of your family members are playing from x numbers of PC. It's 3 clients per IP, the rule says it clearly.

"1.3 Log in more than 3 characters (opened clients) simultaneously" i dont see anywhere somethink about IP/Clients now ill post screenshots of Mac adreses.

PC:  http://img651.imageshack.us/i/21620552.jpg/
Laptop: http://img411.imageshack.us/i/laptopl.jpg/

Quote from: bolo5 on August 20, 2010, 02:09:52 PM
picture of girl mby
ill not give you any kind of picture to my sister i can show her to the GM if he contact me on skype or icq.
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: bolo5 on August 20, 2010, 02:42:26 PM
i hope and dont think it wil be necesery ;D
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Arcain on August 20, 2010, 02:52:11 PM
Quote from: LvniePoo on August 20, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
Yes you will, and it's the way it should be. There's no way the administration can check how many of your family members are playing from x numbers of PC. It's 3 clients per IP, the rule says it clearly.

As far as i remember it was always interpreted as 3 clients per live person plus trade bots. There was never any restriction to IPs.
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Ennis on August 20, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: LvniePoo on August 20, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
Yes you will, and it's the way it should be. There's no way the administration can check how many of your family members are playing from x numbers of PC. It's 3 clients per IP, the rule says it clearly.

Actually, if there are 5 boxes from the same IP, GMs should check if there is only 1 active person using them, or if there are 2. I mean, let's say I invite some friend to my house and he brings his notebook. I am farming with my character and my friend is in the same party as me, let's say I'm a Doombringer, spamming Rush Impact + Violent Temper to mobs and that kind of stuff, while my friend is using a dagger, getting to the back to each mob to land Backstab and such stuff. GMs should check if they are really 2 persons playing. If you want to put this kind of rules, you must make the tedious work of checking anything you think it's suspicious carefully. Same applies to bots and anything else,
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: SK on August 20, 2010, 03:28:38 PM
get active cp members and u wont have to box so many clients
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Guardian on August 20, 2010, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: Icoshimo on August 20, 2010, 02:37:02 PM
Quote from: LvniePoo on August 20, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
Yes you will, and it's the way it should be. There's no way the administration can check how many of your family members are playing from x numbers of PC. It's 3 clients per IP, the rule says it clearly.

"1.3 Log in more than 3 characters (opened clients) simultaneously" i dont see anywhere somethink about IP/Clients now ill post screenshots of Mac adreses.

PC:  http://img651.imageshack.us/i/21620552.jpg/
Laptop: http://img411.imageshack.us/i/laptopl.jpg/

Quote from: bolo5 on August 20, 2010, 02:09:52 PM
picture of girl mby
ill not give you any kind of picture to my sister i can show her to the GM if he contact me on skype or icq.
is she so ugly ? :D
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Adebisi on August 20, 2010, 05:11:58 PM
maybe is better to post a picture with ur 2 pc and with ur lan conection,and no sister photo :P
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: AwakenDemon on August 20, 2010, 05:30:49 PM
he alrdy posted it
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: MichaelV on August 20, 2010, 05:54:38 PM
The rule is maximum 3 clients per ONE person/cat/dog/etc. The gm that banned you most probably came to the conclusion that the chars are controlled by 1 person, after watching you and/or testing you somehow.

Most probably Shabaka was the one that banned you, so please contact him on icq and prove him that he was wrong. If you're right, he will unban you. We are more or less reasonable people.
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Forebear on August 20, 2010, 06:21:34 PM
I cant reg on icq  :(
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Guardian on August 20, 2010, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: Forebear on August 20, 2010, 06:21:34 PM
I cant reg on icq  :(
who cares.
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Tomasi on August 20, 2010, 06:58:44 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on August 20, 2010, 05:54:38 PM
If you're right, he will unban you.

As he didnt do it with my characters...
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: LvniePoo on August 20, 2010, 08:45:18 PM
Quit l2 and play arkham asylum, great game :)
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Johnnie. on August 20, 2010, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on August 20, 2010, 05:54:38 PM
[...] so please contact him on icq and prove him that he was wrong. If you're right, he will unban you. We are more or less reasonable people.
Is it really possible to reach him there? Or maybe... Does he really read all this messages? And then, is it possible to proove anything after 2 weeks+? Why don't he try to show up before ban and speak with his targets if he thinks that they deserved to be banned? It's the best moment and the best way to proove anything. There so many coincidences and single person just can't be sure in every case. Conversation is the key...
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on August 20, 2010, 11:53:47 PM
man i have 3 sister, they are all blonde with big boobs and all play on pc with 3 boxes each.. they not reply in game cause only speak chinese and not know english :S its not bot or multibox plxxxxxxxx unban omg :SSSS
Title: Re: Totaly Unfair Ban
Post by: Avatha Valiarde on August 21, 2010, 03:07:24 PM
Most of you are spaming here. But it's normal issue that few ppl on this server are playing with their brothers and sisters, or friends playing by one lan connection.

I offten have some problems on servers because I REALLY play with my sister on L2.
We are two girls playing such game like L2. Yep, there are girls playing L2 ;P

MichaelIV I have one thing to ask you. Can you try to talk with other GM's to checking is there one or more ppl playing by one IP ? I really don't want to get ban only by this that we both with sister are playing on same server ;>