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Title: Spoil Rates
Post by: Kamyl on March 31, 2010, 07:35:06 PM
so when it will be changed?
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: TheZ on March 31, 2010, 07:37:44 PM
Answer will be "next week" as always  :-\
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: kinus on March 31, 2010, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: TheZ on March 31, 2010, 07:37:44 PM
Answer will be "next week" as always  :-\

good one :))
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on March 31, 2010, 08:01:23 PM
It's been announced 2 weeks ago with an ETA of "next week", but as you all know last week we had some serious problems so it had to be pushed back to this week. Have a little patience, we talked yesterday and today about it and an agreement has been reached.
Change is COMING! : )
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: TONYV on March 31, 2010, 08:16:47 PM
next week i think
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Pel8 on March 31, 2010, 08:28:44 PM
when is done
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: aYotech on March 31, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
yah, c5 clan system soon.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Eze on March 31, 2010, 10:19:30 PM
Ayo its youre day tommorow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Sirius92 on March 31, 2010, 10:36:01 PM
Quote from: aYotech on March 31, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
yah, c5 clan system soon.

C5 clan system still under development, don't worry!
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Xombie on March 31, 2010, 11:14:45 PM
Quote from: aYotech on March 31, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
yah, c5 clan system soon.

Lawl.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Riv on March 31, 2010, 11:48:09 PM
Quote from: Sirius92 on March 31, 2010, 10:36:01 PM
Quote from: aYotech on March 31, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
yah, c5 clan system soon.

C5 clan system still under development, don't worry!

xDDD <3
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: vaurk on April 01, 2010, 12:17:29 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 31, 2010, 08:01:23 PM
Have a little patience

have some punctuality

QuoteChange is COMING! : )

I think I heard that somewhere already....ah right from the crap I see on TV.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: BackfromDead on April 01, 2010, 12:33:49 AM
Quote from: vaurk on April 01, 2010, 12:17:29 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 31, 2010, 08:01:23 PM
Have a little patience

have some punctuality

QuoteChange is COMING! : )

I think I heard that somewhere already....ah right from the crap I see on TV.

THE APOCALIPSE IS COMING!!
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 01, 2010, 01:18:41 AM
Quote from: vaurk on April 01, 2010, 12:17:29 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 31, 2010, 08:01:23 PM
Have a little patience

have some punctuality

QuoteChange is COMING! : )

I think I heard that somewhere already....ah right from the crap I see on TV.
If anyone else has "smart" comments like this fellow here, please keep it to yourselves or you're gonna take breaks from the forum just like him.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: elusive on April 01, 2010, 03:00:19 AM
S O O N
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: userbaer on April 01, 2010, 08:52:05 AM
any lvled in cata ? im getting 45k xp from mobs but in vos i get 35k xp so i think there is something wrong or are the catas still 1x ?
same like spoil rates.

greez
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Malarki on April 01, 2010, 11:56:08 AM
I think that XPs are good
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: userbaer on April 01, 2010, 12:15:19 PM
why good the mobs in catas x4 hp i need around 5-10 secs for 1 and in vos i 1 shot them so the xp is not nice in catas.
i dont want to waste the time in killing in ths time when i can kill 5.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: rimortis on April 01, 2010, 01:58:43 PM
Quote from: userbaer on April 01, 2010, 12:15:19 PM
why good the mobs in catas x4 hp i need around 5-10 secs for 1 and in vos i 1 shot them so the xp is not nice in catas.
i dont want to waste the time in killing in ths time when i can kill 5.
if u get better exp in vos why would u even want to go to cata to exp unless u're there for drops which are not related to exp in any way?
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Luq on April 01, 2010, 11:28:36 PM
any news?
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Elisha on April 01, 2010, 11:52:59 PM
I want to ask something. When I use spoil and it is successful (The spoil condition has been activated) and even though the mob doesnt go blue when he dies or it disappears after death. This happens like always....hardly ever I spoil successfully. Does this rely on spoils rate? Or spoil rate is only increased chance of spoiling something....  ???

Thanks for explanation.
Cheers Elisha  :P
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Riv on April 02, 2010, 01:11:33 AM
Quote from: Elisha on April 01, 2010, 11:52:59 PM
I want to ask something. When I use spoil and it is successful (The spoil condition has been activated) and even though the mob doesnt go blue when he dies or it disappears after death. This happens like always....hardly ever I spoil successfully. Does this rely on spoils rate? Or spoil rate is only increased chance of spoiling something....  ???

Thanks for explanation.
Cheers Elisha  :P

that means that mob was empty. depends on server spoil chance rates, and mob spoil chance rates.
also remember that it's harder to get spoil from mob which have higher or lower lvl than you
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: barr on April 02, 2010, 06:16:46 AM
YO

FUCKING CHANGE THE SPOIL RATES CUZ IM GOING FUCKING CRAZY

3RD MOTHERFUCKING TIME I FAILED MJLA

FUCKING CL DOESNT GROW ON MY FUCKING BACK YOU KNOW


CHANGE FUCKING RATES OR GIVE ME A MJLA.

:-*

thanks for listening.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Katina on April 02, 2010, 08:34:52 AM
in 1012 amount will be 5x
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: kinus on April 02, 2010, 09:41:32 AM
Quote from: Katina on April 02, 2010, 08:34:52 AM
in 1012 amount will be 5x
fail a bit?
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 02, 2010, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: barr on April 02, 2010, 06:16:46 AM
CAPS LOCK FRENZY
Three days ago when i asked he said it will be changed definitely. Now, i'm waiting just like you guys. I'm going to ask him again today to see the progress on it.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: CJ2000 on April 02, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
You say progress as if it isn't just changing a 1 to a 5.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 02, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
Quote from: CJ2000 on April 02, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
You say progress as if it isn't just changing a 1 to a 5.
In case of chance yes. In case of amount, it's a little more complicated then changing one number.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Elisha on April 02, 2010, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on April 02, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
Quote from: CJ2000 on April 02, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
You say progress as if it isn't just changing a 1 to a 5.
In case of chance yes. In case of amount, it's a little more complicated then changing one number.

So an amount will be increased too? Great!  :P
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: barr on April 02, 2010, 02:01:31 PM
i was hoping you'd give me a mjla  ::)
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: asynja on April 02, 2010, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: Elisha on April 02, 2010, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on April 02, 2010, 11:15:02 AM
Quote from: CJ2000 on April 02, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
You say progress as if it isn't just changing a 1 to a 5.
In case of chance yes. In case of amount, it's a little more complicated then changing one number.

So an amount will be increased too? Great!  :P

keep dreaming.
btw, what were you thinking at the opening of server with x3 spoil chance when all the other rates are x5, even more in the case of exp rate which can be more than x5 because of very common and popular cookies? The second disadvantage that makes craft too much difficult is the lack of manor and pushed sieges. Server lives for one month and we have only 1 castle siege done-gz for the idea. It was a mistake at the beggining, unless your purpose were mats/parts prices like on x30 - then gratz, it works!
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: bolo5 on April 02, 2010, 02:56:22 PM
oh cmon stop crying and either go on spoiler or back to ur cave oO
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: ..MinDiuSe.. on April 03, 2010, 04:00:22 AM
2 days till end of the week is spoil coming? :D
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: ..MinDiuSe.. on April 03, 2010, 07:46:46 PM
tommorow is easter so spoil is next week?  :o
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: wawa1234 on April 03, 2010, 09:31:54 PM
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on April 03, 2010, 07:46:46 PM
tommorow is easter so spoil is next week?  :o
SOON
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Eze on April 04, 2010, 12:18:28 AM
Col serbar .))
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: bolo5 on April 04, 2010, 12:20:57 AM
   /leave if u dont like noone keeps u here and by emo posts u gain nothing nor noone gains nothing
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Kewlpwnz1 on April 04, 2010, 06:21:22 PM
x5 now?? lf confirm
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 04, 2010, 06:33:54 PM
It's easter, can't ask today but i promise i'll ask tomorrow and try to give you some info.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 04, 2010, 07:04:10 PM
Should be ready at same time with C5 clan system, not long now ...
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on April 04, 2010, 09:06:33 PM
Quote from: CJ2000 on April 02, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
You say progress as if it isn't just changing a 1 to a 5.

Exactly what I was thinking.
Fucking spot on.

MV: have to repeat again, as i told CJ the first time: changing the spoil amount to x5 is NOT as simple as changing a 1 to a 5. It shouldn't take more then 1-2 days either and i don't know why it hasn't been done yet. Maybe admin doesn't has too much free time this days.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Kewlpwnz1 on April 04, 2010, 10:12:57 PM
cmon...500k for 1 fuking cl....
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Pawlak on April 04, 2010, 11:20:28 PM
Ofcourse they don't have time, with so many adensky I would be away 24/7 aswell :D
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Igorius on April 05, 2010, 10:27:33 AM
so...............

;D
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: haart on April 05, 2010, 11:26:35 AM
"next week" after it will be done  ::)
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: wawa1234 on April 05, 2010, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: haart on April 05, 2010, 11:26:35 AM
"next week" after it will be done  ::)
no in "next week" admins says " SOON"
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: cmocnikas on April 05, 2010, 05:47:11 PM
MichaelV
Global Moderator
Sr. Member
*****


   
   
Re: Spoil rates Part 2
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2010, 09:03:51 AM »
   
It will take quite a few days, they are done manually. I guess u know what that means, right? Mucho maths : )




















Now  Mon 3:45 PM     soo ,   gays   NEWEEEEEEEEEEEER xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxxaxa
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Y0yOy0 on April 05, 2010, 06:54:23 PM
So, are you really going to release another server before the fixing the spoil rates here? Proved once more that you care more about donation rather than making the community happy.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 05, 2010, 07:31:28 PM
I repeat for the N time, it was SUPPOSED to be done in a few days but the flood problem arrived, along with the item dupes and it had to be postponed. Since then, i keep asking about it ...

Anyway, no reason to keep this open other then players raging about it. I'll close it until i can give you an answer, whatever that might be. Hope it will be today.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 05, 2010, 09:37:25 PM
Last update about this problem from me. If you want further info about this you will have to mail administration about it or from Alice/Shabaka (i do not want to annoy them about this issue anymore).

Two things:

1) It will be done but they couldn't tell me when exactly it will happen;
2) Can't tell you exactly why it hasn't been done yet, but i can tell in general. The admin that takes care of the changes made to files (including the rates obviously) has a real life "problem". I put the word between " because it's not really a problem, it's something to be happy about but at the same time it takes up a lot of his time. Can't share what happened without permission.

Gonna keep this thread open for future suggestions/questions on this subject but please(!), do NOT flame.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: dani3l on April 05, 2010, 10:18:02 PM
sounds like a baby to me :))..we wish him all the best
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Elisha on April 06, 2010, 12:06:32 AM
Sounds like a divorce to me  ;D



nah just kidding  :D
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: BackfromDead on April 06, 2010, 12:19:36 AM
sounds like he doesnt need to spoil!
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: ..MinDiuSe.. on April 06, 2010, 01:43:12 AM
She got a baby yai owr mod is a Women  :o 8)
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: vajqo on April 06, 2010, 10:13:58 AM
Whats hard on coding and breastfeeding at the same time?  ;D
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Eze on April 06, 2010, 12:57:19 PM
w8 w8 does he breast feed the baby????? Well thats a big problem then lol
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: dani3l on April 06, 2010, 03:27:29 PM
i think MV should lock the topic :|
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Katina on April 06, 2010, 08:12:40 PM
who cares about gm life or problem
we want spoil 5x naaaaaaooo

MV: he does ; )
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Guardian on April 06, 2010, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: Katina on April 06, 2010, 08:12:40 PM
who cares about gm life or problem
we want spoil 5x naaaaaaooo

MV: he does ; )
Real life >L2 i hope someday you will realise that my dear from l2-dependent friend.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: barr on April 08, 2010, 12:46:13 AM
how busy can a person be.


smells like bullshit to me
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: BackfromDead on April 08, 2010, 12:58:43 AM
fraps or never happened!
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Kewlpwnz1 on April 08, 2010, 03:47:22 AM
Quote from: barr on April 08, 2010, 12:46:13 AM
how busy can a person be.


smells like bullshit to me

everyone cant be a nolifer u know...
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: imhuntingwabbits on April 08, 2010, 12:49:03 PM
Quote from: Kewlpwnz1 on April 08, 2010, 03:47:22 AM
everyone cant be a nolifer u know...

then how about getting developers that are doing their jobs?
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Udunnome on April 08, 2010, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: imhuntingwabbits on April 08, 2010, 12:49:03 PM

then how about getting developers that are doing their jobs?

name 1 private server in which developers put aside their real lives for the server
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: vaurk on April 08, 2010, 01:59:15 PM
you all talk like changing spoil rates is something that takes 100 hours
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Rozjebunda on April 08, 2010, 02:04:58 PM
Quote from: vaurk on April 08, 2010, 01:59:15 PM
you all talk like changing spoil rates is something that takes 100 hours
you talk like u know what u r talking about...
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Pel8 on April 08, 2010, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: vaurk on April 08, 2010, 01:59:15 PM
you all talk like changing spoil rates is something that takes 100 hours

:D
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: vaurk on April 08, 2010, 02:15:09 PM
Quote from: Rozjebunda on April 08, 2010, 02:04:58 PM
Quote from: vaurk on April 08, 2010, 01:59:15 PM
you all talk like changing spoil rates is something that takes 100 hours
you talk like u know what u r talking about...

show to all of us that spoil rates take weeks to change and we will all bow to you, mr i know what i talk about
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: snobbyW on April 08, 2010, 02:17:30 PM
i bet to DO NOT CHANGE the spoil rate.

if u want mats go and spend hours.
if u are here and cry about "change spoil rate, coz real life is not so important than my game", than just go and do it like a real nolifer.

i guess any of u have spent less than 10h in spoil, just gave it up because of  "its too hard, i cant get 600+ mats in 1h"

and i say it because the best spoil spots are usually clean on this server

Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Rozjebunda on April 08, 2010, 02:28:32 PM
Quote from: vaurk on April 08, 2010, 02:15:09 PM
Quote from: Rozjebunda on April 08, 2010, 02:04:58 PM
Quote from: vaurk on April 08, 2010, 01:59:15 PM
you all talk like changing spoil rates is something that takes 100 hours
you talk like u know what u r talking about...

show to all of us that spoil rates take weeks to change and we will all bow to you, mr i know what i talk about
so in ur opinion changing manually spoil of every mob is matter of 5 minutes? have u ever seen l2db?
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: NK^ on April 08, 2010, 02:32:22 PM
C5 clansystem soon

(c) mc7


Sounds familiar?
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 08, 2010, 02:52:11 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on April 05, 2010, 09:37:25 PM
Gonna keep this thread open for future suggestions/questions on this subject but please(!), do NOT flame.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Elisha on April 08, 2010, 06:07:30 PM
But guys, how could be the spoil rates 1x while Im spoiling SOP from almost everyone "Gigant Confessor" in Branded. And at pmfun.com is written that the chance to spoil SOP is 1/6... I guess that page is set to 1x official servers so... I cant be that lucky huh?  ;)
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: asynja on April 08, 2010, 06:13:02 PM
Quote from: snobbywhore on April 08, 2010, 02:17:30 PM
i bet to DO NOT CHANGE the spoil rate.

if u want mats go and spend hours.
if u are here and cry about "change spoil rate, coz real life is not so important than my game", than just go and do it like a real nolifer.

i guess any of u have spent less than 10h in spoil, just gave it up because of  "its too hard, i cant get 600+ mats in 1h"

and i say it because the best spoil spots are usually clean on this server



they are clean because too little ppl made spoiler-alt to spoil mats cause it's sad to spoil x1 amount of mat. ppl prefer to earn money and buy mats from the market for insane prices cause actually earning adena with other ways is easier than spoiling mats. it is not about that ppl are lazy, it's just unfair when all other server rates are higher and spoil rate is lowered-this is not balanced.
for now, server stands too long to change the rates - so you screwed. it's better to leave it how it is now.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: asynja on April 08, 2010, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: Elisha on April 08, 2010, 06:07:30 PM
But guys, how could be the spoil rates 1x while Im spoiling SOP from almost everyone "Gigant Confessor" in Branded. And at pmfun.com is written that the chance to spoil SOP is 1/6... I guess that page is set to 1x official servers so... I cant be that lucky huh?  ;)

lol
amount is x1
chance is x3
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: BackfromDead on April 08, 2010, 07:37:28 PM
300k a ori ore. PPL trading fire stones for CL, yea awesome adjust on market prices ;)
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Rozjebunda on April 08, 2010, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: BackfromDead on April 08, 2010, 07:37:28 PM
300k a ori ore. PPL trading fire stones for CL, yea awesome adjust on market prices ;)
bcuz they r too lazy to spoil......
2h = 200+ sop, isnt it enough?
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: BackfromDead on April 08, 2010, 07:41:35 PM
what ori ore has to do with sops?
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Ammae on April 08, 2010, 07:46:00 PM
Quote from: Elisha on April 08, 2010, 06:07:30 PM
But guys, how could be the spoil rates 1x while Im spoiling SOP from almost everyone "Gigant Confessor" in Branded. And at pmfun.com is written that the chance to spoil SOP is 1/6... I guess that page is set to 1x official servers so... I cant be that lucky huh?  ;)
coz Its more fucked up than U think
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Guardian on April 08, 2010, 09:53:46 PM
The more time wasting on spoil rates changing the more server economy will be fucked up. Soon mats will be like an alternate currency people will trade items epic's for mats.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: BackfromDead on April 08, 2010, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: Guardian on April 08, 2010, 09:53:46 PM
The more time wasting on spoil rates changing the more server economy will be fucked up. Soon mats will be like an alternate currency people will trade items epic's for mats.

u know that wont happen right? U trade for the full item u want not for mats to craft it. u can be retard but dont do it in front of others.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Guardian on April 08, 2010, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: BackfromDead on April 08, 2010, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: Guardian on April 08, 2010, 09:53:46 PM
The more time wasting on spoil rates changing the more server economy will be fucked up. Soon mats will be like an alternate currency people will trade items epic's for mats.

u know that wont happen right? U trade for the full item u want not for mats to craft it. u can be retard but dont do it in front of others.
go grind 24/7  to spoil xxxxsop at 1x amount even in retail with 1x rates you get more than here. why do you waste your precious time on forum you could get 15 sop in that time OMG what are you waiting for GO GO GO!!!
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: eric on April 08, 2010, 10:55:18 PM
you really aren't too bright
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: BackfromDead on April 08, 2010, 11:15:24 PM
Quote from: Guardian on April 08, 2010, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: BackfromDead on April 08, 2010, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: Guardian on April 08, 2010, 09:53:46 PM
The more time wasting on spoil rates changing the more server economy will be fucked up. Soon mats will be like an alternate currency people will trade items epic's for mats.

u know that wont happen right? U trade for the full item u want not for mats to craft it. u can be retard but dont do it in front of others.
go grind 24/7  to spoil xxxxsop at 1x amount even in retail with 1x rates you get more than here. why do you waste your precious time on forum you could get 15 sop in that time OMG what are you waiting for GO GO GO!!!

U trying to hard kid
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Nerz on April 09, 2010, 07:50:58 AM
Quote from: aYotech on March 31, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
yah, c5 clan system soon.

old azure joke :/
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Rozjebunda on April 09, 2010, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: BackfromDead on April 08, 2010, 07:41:35 PM
what ori ore has to do with sops?
to let ppl imagine its not so hard as they think
i think ppl just dont know where to spoil..... i made 100 ori ore in less than 1h.... its not something uberhard
i posted about sops bcuz when i see ppl crying about mats, im sick, with chance x3 its so easy, dont see a reason to cry so much...
it takes us 3-4 hours to get mats for 1 S weapon, i think its not much if u play on 5x server...
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Mercenary on April 09, 2010, 01:05:01 PM
Quote from: Rozjebunda on April 09, 2010, 11:58:41 AM
it takes us 3-4 hours to get mats for 1 S weapon, i think its not much if u play on 5x server...

hahah rofl ... suuure it takes you 3-4 hours to spoil all the mats for some S weapon, or at least 50% of it ... suuuure....

you just wrote that it took you 1 hour to spoin 100 ori ore ... and for example http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/recipe/6899/recipe-arcana-mace.html (http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/recipe/6899/recipe-arcana-mace.html) you need 154 ori ore = 1.5 hour,  ok, lets say you have all the Cokes for Creating Synthetic cokes .... 154 VOPs - 154 SoPs, so lets say again 1.5 hour and still need many CPBs and Varnishes .. .but lets say you have already all (we are already on 3 hours for just 2 mats .. i don't count in the time you need to refill with shots etc .. or the time of moving to other spoil location ...); Mithril Alloy - Mithril Ore you have (lets says so), VoPs you just spoiled ... and Steels, from my experience i know that they are missing all the time, but lets say again you have at least 50% of the total 308, so you have 154 and still need to spoil 154, so another 1.5 hour ... ok and now finaly DMP, well tbh i don't really know the best place to spoil them here, on Gracia Final, but lets say you would spoil 100 in 1 hour (which i honestly doubt) and you need 300 of them ... so another 3 hours ....

Alltogether 7.5 hours and i counted that you already had like 50% of almost all mats !!! with even key mats for the weapon ! ... and i didn't counted in the time for some rest of the party / ppl, some refills of shots, moving to some other spoil place ... so at least from 7.5 hours it would be 9 hours ...

BTW and as you know (or should know) there are some mats which should be spoiled in amount of 1-3, well here it is allways 1 ! ... so don't say that you have mats for an S weapon in like 3-4 hours .. maybe in your dreams ..
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Tomasi on April 09, 2010, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: Mercenary on April 09, 2010, 01:05:01 PM
Quote from: Rozjebunda on April 09, 2010, 11:58:41 AM
it takes us 3-4 hours to get mats for 1 S weapon, i think its not much if u play on 5x server...

hahah rofl ... suuure it takes you 3-4 hours to spoil all the mats for some S weapon, or at least 50% of it ... suuuure....

you just wrote that it took you 1 hour to spoin 100 ori ore ... and for example http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/recipe/6899/recipe-arcana-mace.html (http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/recipe/6899/recipe-arcana-mace.html) you need 154 ori ore = 1.5 hour,  ok, lets say you have all the Cokes for Creating Synthetic cokes .... 154 VOPs - 154 SoPs, so lets say again 1.5 hour and still need many CPBs and Varnishes .. .but lets say you have already all (we are already on 3 hours for just 2 mats .. i don't count in the time you need to refill with shots etc .. or the time of moving to other spoil location ...); Mithril Alloy - Mithril Ore you have (lets says so), VoPs you just spoiled ... and Steels, from my experience i know that they are missing all the time, but lets say again you have at least 50% of the total 308, so you have 154 and still need to spoil 154, so another 1.5 hour ... ok and now finaly DMP, well tbh i don't really know the best place to spoil them here, on Gracia Final, but lets say you would spoil 100 in 1 hour (which i honestly doubt) and you need 300 of them ... so another 3 hours ....

Alltogether 7.5 hours and i counted that you already had like 50% of almost all mats !!! with even key mats for the weapon ! ... and i didn't counted in the time for some rest of the party / ppl, some refills of shots, moving to some other spoil place ... so at least from 7.5 hours it would be 9 hours ...

BTW and as you know (or should know) there are some mats which should be spoiled in amount of 1-3, well here it is allways 1 ! ... so don't say that you have mats for an S weapon in like 3-4 hours .. maybe in your dreams ..

He said "us". So he probably plays with party. They can go to stakato nest and farm fast. 3-4 hours is correct.

Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Mercenary on April 09, 2010, 01:28:10 PM
Quote from: Tomasi on April 09, 2010, 01:22:06 PM

He said "us". So he probably plays with party. They can go to stakato nest and farm fast. 3-4 hours is correct.


Ok, i don't say that i know everything, maybe it goes much faster in Stakato as the mobs are quite easy to kill and there is lots of mobs .. or there is like some mats quest i don't know ....
however at least with a normal spoiling it would take the time which i wrote ...
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Rozjebunda on April 09, 2010, 01:32:34 PM
Quote from: Mercenary on April 09, 2010, 01:05:01 PM
Quote from: Rozjebunda on April 09, 2010, 11:58:41 AM
it takes us 3-4 hours to get mats for 1 S weapon, i think its not much if u play on 5x server...

hahah rofl ... suuure it takes you 3-4 hours to spoil all the mats for some S weapon, or at least 50% of it ... suuuure....

you just wrote that it took you 1 hour to spoin 100 ori ore ... and for example http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/recipe/6899/recipe-arcana-mace.html (http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/recipe/6899/recipe-arcana-mace.html) you need 154 ori ore = 1.5 hour,  ok, lets say you have all the Cokes for Creating Synthetic cokes .... 154 VOPs - 154 SoPs, so lets say again 1.5 hour and still need many CPBs and Varnishes .. .but lets say you have already all (we are already on 3 hours for just 2 mats .. i don't count in the time you need to refill with shots etc .. or the time of moving to other spoil location ...); Mithril Alloy - Mithril Ore you have (lets says so), VoPs you just spoiled ... and Steels, from my experience i know that they are missing all the time, but lets say again you have at least 50% of the total 308, so you have 154 and still need to spoil 154, so another 1.5 hour ... ok and now finaly DMP, well tbh i don't really know the best place to spoil them here, on Gracia Final, but lets say you would spoil 100 in 1 hour (which i honestly doubt) and you need 300 of them ... so another 3 hours ....

Alltogether 7.5 hours and i counted that you already had like 50% of almost all mats !!! with even key mats for the weapon ! ... and i didn't counted in the time for some rest of the party / ppl, some refills of shots, moving to some other spoil place ... so at least from 7.5 hours it would be 9 hours ...

BTW and as you know (or should know) there are some mats which should be spoiled in amount of 1-3, well here it is allways 1 ! ... so don't say that you have mats for an S weapon in like 3-4 hours .. maybe in your dreams ..
varnishes, cbp - only from drop we have 3k+ of them
about mats 1-3 always 1, some mobs still give 1-3 amount from spoil
and dont forget u can do quests and spoil at the same time.....

i think all this is matter of organization and some basic knowledge about quests/drops/spoils
sometimes finding a mob with the highest spoil chance by using drop calculator is not the best solution to get ur mats fast, sometimes u must use ur brain also, this way even ppl on official have planty of mats while others cry about it...

we made 2 S sets, 3 S weapons and a lot of other not needed S items and somehow we didnt have to cry about mats...

and btw SOLO it will always take a lot of time
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Mercenary on April 09, 2010, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Rozjebunda on April 09, 2010, 01:32:34 PM
varnishes, cbp - only from drop we have 3k+ of them
about mats 1-3 always 1, some mobs still give 1-3 amount from spoil
and dont forget u can do quests and spoil at the same time.....

i think all this is matter of organization and some basic knowledge about quests/drops/spoils
sometimes finding a mob with the highest spoil chance by using drop calculator is not the best solution to get ur mats fast, sometimes u must use ur brain also, this way even ppl on official have planty of mats while others cry about it...

we made 2 S sets, 3 S weapons and a lot of other not needed S items and somehow we didnt have to cry about mats...

and btw SOLO it will always take a lot of time


ok, i agree with you in most of your points ... but for example i don't quite know any mats quest .. yes this is my 'problem' or 'my lack of knowledge' ... but cannot really find any site with all Gracia Final quest listing ;/
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Rozjebunda on April 09, 2010, 01:53:26 PM
Quote from: Mercenary on April 09, 2010, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Rozjebunda on April 09, 2010, 01:32:34 PM
varnishes, cbp - only from drop we have 3k+ of them
about mats 1-3 always 1, some mobs still give 1-3 amount from spoil
and dont forget u can do quests and spoil at the same time.....

i think all this is matter of organization and some basic knowledge about quests/drops/spoils
sometimes finding a mob with the highest spoil chance by using drop calculator is not the best solution to get ur mats fast, sometimes u must use ur brain also, this way even ppl on official have planty of mats while others cry about it...

we made 2 S sets, 3 S weapons and a lot of other not needed S items and somehow we didnt have to cry about mats...

and btw SOLO it will always take a lot of time


ok, i agree with you in most of your points ... but for example i don't quite know any mats quest .. yes this is my 'problem' or 'my lack of knowledge' ... but cannot really find any site with all Gracia Final quest listing ;/
this should be helpful:

http://l2vault.ign.com/View.php?view=guides.list&category_show_all=1
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: baho on April 09, 2010, 03:42:56 PM
http://www.graciafinal.com/ this site belongs to this server and it has both the drop list and the quests. Check em out
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Aurakk on April 09, 2010, 04:11:15 PM
Quote from: baho on April 09, 2010, 03:42:56 PM
http://www.graciafinal.com/ this site belongs to this server and it has both the drop list and the quests. Check em out
it doesnt have skill list for kamaels  :'(
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: lawlbot on April 09, 2010, 06:20:53 PM
This spoil rate is only good for porta room (great place also if you want dorf pvp and drama) and mobs that drop mats in stacks.
:-[
Make basic mats 5x with 1x chance, from experience it was much better for spoilers that way and leave the rest the same. I had about 100+ SOP and CBP (cata) easily with an hour of spoiling with crappy gears and  no party back then. And economy wasn't a mess.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Elisha on April 09, 2010, 09:53:24 PM
Quote from: lawlbot on April 09, 2010, 06:20:53 PM
This spoil rate is only good for porta room (great place also if you want dorf pvp and drama) and mobs that drop mats in stacks.
:-[
Make basic mats 5x with 1x chance, from experience it was much better for spoilers that way and leave the rest the same. I had about 100+ SOP and CBP (cata) easily with an hour of spoiling with crappy gears and  no party back then. And economy wasn't a mess.

haha dorfies dealing with others in porta room, thats funny :D
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: n0click on April 09, 2010, 11:52:44 PM
damn imagine if high lvl's would be alowed inside cruma tower , there would be an masacre for 1 CL spoiled !
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: lawlbot on April 10, 2010, 04:43:35 AM
BTW, i don't want to create a new thread but is there anyway the devs could implement auto pick up feature? Its really annoying trying to pick up all that stuff with uber slow pick ups.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Kewlpwnz1 on April 10, 2010, 04:51:42 AM
Quote from: lawlbot on April 10, 2010, 04:43:35 AM
BTW, i don't want to create a new thread but is there anyway the devs could implement auto pick up feature? Its really annoying trying to pick up all that stuff with uber slow pick ups.

it is a good idea but ppl would flame u with things like *go back to l2jbrstarwar* and shiatz
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: vaurk on April 10, 2010, 02:35:21 PM
Quote from: Kewlpwnz1 on April 10, 2010, 04:51:42 AM
Quote from: lawlbot on April 10, 2010, 04:43:35 AM
BTW, i don't want to create a new thread but is there anyway the devs could implement auto pick up feature? Its really annoying trying to pick up all that stuff with uber slow pick ups.

it is a good idea

no its not.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: petrajss on April 10, 2010, 04:33:27 PM
Quote from: Kewlpwnz1 on April 10, 2010, 04:51:42 AM
Quote from: lawlbot on April 10, 2010, 04:43:35 AM
BTW, i don't want to create a new thread but is there anyway the devs could implement auto pick up feature? Its really annoying trying to pick up all that stuff with uber slow pick ups.

it is a good idea but ppl would flame u with things like *go back to l2jbrstarwar* and shiatz
cause it is l2jbrstarwar dumbshit, taking RB drops with last hit, lol
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Cande on April 10, 2010, 06:30:16 PM
any real ETA about this? week is almost gone and nothing so far
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 10, 2010, 09:18:37 PM
Next week mengz™ : )
Wait for Alice to finish with her university graduation paper/exam, things will move faster after she has more time to spend around here.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: petrajss on April 10, 2010, 10:08:44 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on April 10, 2010, 09:18:37 PM
Next week mengz™ : )

;D
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Malarki on April 11, 2010, 01:07:50 AM
Quote from: petrajss on April 10, 2010, 10:08:44 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on April 10, 2010, 09:18:37 PM
Next week mengz™ : )

;D

omg where did I hear this? :D
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Benek on April 11, 2010, 08:39:20 AM
Why you lie people  ??? Spoil: chance x3, amount x1
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Guardian on April 11, 2010, 10:21:09 AM
Quote from: Benek on April 11, 2010, 08:39:20 AM
Why you lie people  ??? Spoil: chance x3, amount x1

what ? :D
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Kewlpwnz1 on April 11, 2010, 10:41:55 AM
next month gms way too bussy
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Rozjebunda on April 11, 2010, 10:58:42 AM
Quote from: Benek on April 11, 2010, 08:39:20 AM
Why you lie people  ??? Spoil: chance x3, amount x1

??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 11, 2010, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: Kewlpwnz1 on April 11, 2010, 10:41:55 AM
next month gms way too bussy
GMs have absolutely nothing to do with bug fixing or spoil adjustments. There is only ONE guy that handles this stuff and it happens that RL is more important for him at the moment (who would've guessed, eh?).
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Pel8 on April 11, 2010, 11:59:25 AM
So they are working on it or they have some serius problem to change only mats amounts?

MV: i don't know if he started working on it, i'll try to get some answers tomorrow.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: fragmaa on April 11, 2010, 09:05:19 PM
tbh when bot wasn't fixed we had much more mats on market lol
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: piot on April 12, 2010, 07:31:32 AM
but bots are working fine
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: fragmaa on April 12, 2010, 09:30:49 AM
didnt seen a single bot since update exept bot sellers
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: aYotech on April 13, 2010, 11:02:54 AM
spoil rate 95% Complete guys.

Coming soon.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Udunnome on April 13, 2010, 11:09:11 AM
Quote from: fragmaa on April 12, 2010, 09:30:49 AM
didnt seen a single bot since update exept bot sellers
and fishing bots
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 13, 2010, 11:23:34 AM
Did you guys checked the spoil lately? Alice told me that admin should have changed  the spoil already. So please, if someone is kind enough, go and check it out and post here if it was changed or not.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Kuntfuk on April 13, 2010, 12:38:18 PM
Not changed.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: n0click on April 13, 2010, 12:44:48 PM
tryed few mobs with basic mats same amount
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: MichaelV on April 13, 2010, 02:04:37 PM
Ok thnx, i'll let her know.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Frorath on April 13, 2010, 02:19:33 PM
Im about to go spoil 400 SoPs so I demand 1:5 spoil rate nao!  BTW MV, Alice is female?

MV: i wouldn't call Alice a "her" unless she would be my passive boyfriend : )... and she's not.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: vaurk on April 13, 2010, 02:28:33 PM
haven't seen a guy named alice yet
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: n0click on April 13, 2010, 03:05:37 PM
unless he is ghay and likes to be called alice =)
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: BackfromDead on April 13, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
or simply Russian.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: snobbyW on April 14, 2010, 12:48:15 PM
Quote from: Frorath on April 13, 2010, 02:19:33 PM
Im about to go spoil 400 SoPs so I demand 1:5 spoil rate nao!

btw who cares what do u demand? i have spoiled 700+sop in solo. lets go to farm.
and i need 11000+ animal skin so i demand 1:1 spoil rate and i want get 55-100 A.S. from every mob.


Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Kewlpwnz1 on April 15, 2010, 12:30:50 AM
next month admins way too bussy atm
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: BackfromDead on April 15, 2010, 12:33:17 AM
with c5 clan system
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: reni on April 15, 2010, 01:45:02 AM
And fortresses are finished in 99%  By. Catalin.
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Invic7ae on April 15, 2010, 04:46:01 AM
Quote from: vaurk on April 13, 2010, 02:28:33 PM
haven't seen a guy named alice yet

Alice Cooper :)
Title: Re: Spoil Rates
Post by: Schizo on April 15, 2010, 04:56:35 AM
Quote from: vaurk on April 13, 2010, 02:28:33 PM
haven't seen a guy named alice yet

smack my ass and call me Alice