Considering this is an English friendly server, can we consider the English players playing here?
Olympiad starts at 8 AM for our west coast players, this absurd for players especially with much of the top clans on this server being from NA timezones.
Pushing the olympiad back 2-3 hours will be good for everyone, it doesn't make it too late for Euros and will actually give NA players a chance to compete.
Also siege times for CHs/Castles are too early, no one should have to wake up before the sun rises to play on an English server.
+1 to that altough it is the 2nd time u post and i bet it is getting closed without anything happening :x
There was a thread about this allready wasnt there?
+1, Once again. It's simply stupid that NA players have to wake up at 8-10 am for oly. Not to mention on week days, People who work are usually coming home around the time olympiad is ending.
Agree, but the only reasonable change i see is it to push it forward a few hours. Right now it starts at 6 pm gmt+1 (russia time) so i guess +2 or +3 hours would make it manageable for everyone. I don't think more then this is possible.
Edit: i'll propose it to them unless some people from some odd timezone in middle of pacific come and cry that it will be too late or too in the morning for them.
Quote from: MichaelV on March 26, 2010, 09:51:50 PM
Agree, but the only reasonable change i see is it to push it forward a few hours. Right now it starts at 6 pm gmt+1 (russia time) so i guess +2 or +3 hours would make it manageable for everyone. I don't think more then this is possible.
Edit: i'll propose it to them unless some people from some odd timezone in middle of pacific come and cry that it will be too late or too in the morning for them.
again the same topic and again no :)
sorry but Europeans aren't going to go to oly at 1 - 2 am so get used to it .
U won't. My proposed time would make it for GMT+2 (example) between 8pm and 1am. That's very reasonable and should make everyone happy. And US players will have it on 11am to 4pm.
Dont cheng it we cant go oly when we are in work.
Whatever the setup might be someone is bound to get screwed ,,, damn the dude that made the earth round : (
We all know L2 players stay up late. 1-2 AM is more reasonable then 8-10 AM.
Another solution would be to make it a 4 hour olympiad instead of 6 hours. Therefore it will end at 11-12am for Euro.
Quote from: CJ2000 on March 26, 2010, 11:00:51 PM
We all know L2 players stay up late. 1-2 AM is more reasonable then 8-10 AM.
Another solution would be to make it a 4 hour olympiad instead of 6 hours. Therefore it will end at 11-12am for Euro.
for Europe where the server stand's the oly time is perfect because it's already pushed away from the spot that oly normally goes . About cs they could push the first one a bit to the day but leave the second one the same witch would reduce the time between castle sieges . Because if you push cs's more into the night if a person would have a chanse to go out he couldn't because of cs . And i don't know why are you crying as i remember in one server witch we all know but i can't mention it's name because it's forbidden fortresses was at 5 am for euros and none cared
p.s olympiad was made longer so NA ppl could go to oly because it normally would end even 2 hours earlier
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 26, 2010, 11:41:28 PM
Quote from: CJ2000 on March 26, 2010, 11:00:51 PM
We all know L2 players stay up late. 1-2 AM is more reasonable then 8-10 AM.
Another solution would be to make it a 4 hour olympiad instead of 6 hours. Therefore it will end at 11-12am for Euro.
for Europe where the server stand's the oly time is perfect because it's already pushed away from the spot that oly normally goes . About cs they could push the first one a bit to the day but leave the second one the same witch would reduce the time between castle sieges . Because if you push cs's more into the night if a person would have a chanse to go out he couldn't because of cs . And i don't know why are you crying as i remember in one server witch we all know but i can't mention it's name because it's forbidden fortresses was at 5 am for euros and none cared
p.s olympiad was made longer so NA ppl could go to oly because it normally would end even 2 hours earlier
So put it 2hours later start with -2 hours of duration and everyone is happy ;)
Quote from: BackfromDead on March 26, 2010, 11:46:34 PM
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 26, 2010, 11:41:28 PM
Quote from: CJ2000 on March 26, 2010, 11:00:51 PM
We all know L2 players stay up late. 1-2 AM is more reasonable then 8-10 AM.
Another solution would be to make it a 4 hour olympiad instead of 6 hours. Therefore it will end at 11-12am for Euro.
for Europe where the server stand's the oly time is perfect because it's already pushed away from the spot that oly normally goes . About cs they could push the first one a bit to the day but leave the second one the same witch would reduce the time between castle sieges . Because if you push cs's more into the night if a person would have a chanse to go out he couldn't because of cs . And i don't know why are you crying as i remember in one server witch we all know but i can't mention it's name because it's forbidden fortresses was at 5 am for euros and none cared
p.s olympiad was made longer so NA ppl could go to oly because it normally would end even 2 hours earlier
So put it 2hours later start with -2 hours of duration and everyone is happy ;)
no i'm not happy :D
i'm +1 to move it 2-4 h later.
1-2h later is not so bad
it can't be right for everyone so better leave it as it is; 8-10 AM it's oky for NA players they only have to wake the frac up.
so i vote for NO CHANGE.
8 AM it's early for u guys ? ppl in Europe wake up even at 5 AM to be to work at 8 AM ....yes 8 AM so set your clocks and wake your fat ass.
Wake the fuck up? We have school and work buddy.
Quote from: MichaelV on March 26, 2010, 09:51:50 PM
Agree, but the only reasonable change i see is it to push it forward a few hours. Right now it starts at 6 pm gmt+1 (russia time) so i guess +2 or +3 hours would make it manageable for everyone. I don't think more then this is possible.
Edit: i'll propose it to them unless some people from some odd timezone in middle of pacific come and cry that it will be too late or too in the morning for them.
gmt+1 start at 4pm so maybe russia is gmt+0 or w/e
Quote from: BackfromDead on March 26, 2010, 11:46:34 PM
So put it 2hours later start with -2 hours of duration and everyone is happy ;)
+1 from me
so it was perfect when euros had to go to oly from 10 pm to 2 am every day, manor was at 11 pm and siegeable ch's at 4-5 am at weekends on azure but it sux here and is not fair... u must really think world revolves around your ass.
btw the time is ok for ENGLISH players so your post doesn't really make much sense (yeah i get it but still).
anyway oly is long so u can log later and miss early hours of it. it's russian server so the times will be set so they fit russians best. get used to it. i wouldn't expect any major changes if i were you.
Quote from: CJ2000 on March 27, 2010, 10:27:16 AM
Wake the fuck up? We have school and work buddy.
you need to consider what's more important for you dude, school / work or l2olympiad ? you probably can't have both at once
ps: russia is gmt+3 :P
Quote from: Pel8 on March 27, 2010, 10:34:29 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 26, 2010, 09:51:50 PM
Agree, but the only reasonable change i see is it to push it forward a few hours. Right now it starts at 6 pm gmt+1 (russia time) so i guess +2 or +3 hours would make it manageable for everyone. I don't think more then this is possible.
Edit: i'll propose it to them unless some people from some odd timezone in middle of pacific come and cry that it will be too late or too in the morning for them.
gmt+1 start at 4pm so maybe russia is gmt+0 or w/e
Quote from: BackfromDead on March 26, 2010, 11:46:34 PM
So put it 2hours later start with -2 hours of duration and everyone is happy ;)
+1 from me
Yes, my bad, gmt+1 makes it 4pm not 6pm. But if Russia is gmt+3 it still starts at 6 and i don't think that anything more then a max 2h change is possible. If u really want it to start 2h later, i can ask.
If it starts 2 hours later it would make things better.
Quote from: aYotech on March 27, 2010, 12:04:43 PM
If it starts 2 hours later it would make things better.
agree
Ending oly at 2AM is more reasonable then starting it at 8 AM.
Still the majority is Euro timezone and i doubt the idea would come trough. Needs a poll tbh to let the players decide... Since you cant make all ppl happy with changing the times...
but you have to make pool in ru forrum and in sub forums so everyone could easily vote but then there won't be any changes . As i said it was already took 2 hours later from where it should be so taking 4 hours later is to good for so just get used to it :)
I've let them know and they'll talk about it in the next days. Wait for an answer.
Poll is not needed in such situation, as there will be surely be ppl annoyed by the change (if it happens) so they'll vote no, and people who will like it. And it's clearly who will win the poll, majority, and those are euro ppl. W/e the decision will be, you'll have to accept it.
Quote from: MichaelV on March 27, 2010, 03:49:14 PM
I've let them know and they'll talk about it in the next days. Wait for an answer.
Poll is not needed in such situation, as there will be surely be ppl annoyed by the change (if it happens) so they'll vote no, and people who will like it. And it's clearly who will win the poll, majority, and those are euro ppl. W/e the decision will be, you'll have to accept it.
it's already the end of the week ant still no 5x spoil ;D
MV: I know, but it's not up to me : (. I mean, i have my role in this, but before i can start working on this i need something from admin first. As soon as he gives it to me, it will be a matter of days until the spoil is rdy.
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 26, 2010, 11:41:28 PM
Quote from: CJ2000 on March 26, 2010, 11:00:51 PM
We all know L2 players stay up late. 1-2 AM is more reasonable then 8-10 AM.
Another solution would be to make it a 4 hour olympiad instead of 6 hours. Therefore it will end at 11-12am for Euro.
for Europe where the server stand's the oly time is perfect because it's already pushed away from the spot that oly normally goes . About cs they could push the first one a bit to the day but leave the second one the same witch would reduce the time between castle sieges . Because if you push cs's more into the night if a person would have a chanse to go out he couldn't because of cs . And i don't know why are you crying as i remember in one server witch we all know but i can't mention it's name because it's forbidden fortresses was at 5 am for euros and none cared
p.s olympiad was made longer so NA ppl could go to oly because it normally would end even 2 hours earlier
You are dumb and i dont get why you care about something that you are not a part of aka oly
Pretty true, I bet nearly half the server's oly players are from NA timezones, while people that don't want the change will never in step foot in the olympiad.
Quote from: rimortis on March 27, 2010, 10:53:55 AM
so it was perfect when euros had to go to oly from 10 pm to 2 am every day, manor was at 11 pm and siegeable ch's at 4-5 am at weekends on azure but it sux here and is not fair... u must really think world revolves around your ass.
As I said before, it is easier for L2 players to stay up late, then to get up early.
I live in poland(gmt+1) so i dont really care about oly times for me but i think its unfair for NA players.
I think it should be changed.
Quote from: HaugeH on March 27, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 26, 2010, 11:41:28 PM
Quote from: CJ2000 on March 26, 2010, 11:00:51 PM
We all know L2 players stay up late. 1-2 AM is more reasonable then 8-10 AM.
Another solution would be to make it a 4 hour olympiad instead of 6 hours. Therefore it will end at 11-12am for Euro.
for Europe where the server stand's the oly time is perfect because it's already pushed away from the spot that oly normally goes . About cs they could push the first one a bit to the day but leave the second one the same witch would reduce the time between castle sieges . Because if you push cs's more into the night if a person would have a chanse to go out he couldn't because of cs . And i don't know why are you crying as i remember in one server witch we all know but i can't mention it's name because it's forbidden fortresses was at 5 am for euros and none cared
p.s olympiad was made longer so NA ppl could go to oly because it normally would end even 2 hours earlier
You are dumb and i dont get why you care about something that you are not a part of aka oly
2 lvl's to oly :) yeh i have barakiel
strong 78 oly farmer
I killed him on my 70lvl sub w/o him even hitting me
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 27, 2010, 11:01:34 PM
Quote from: HaugeH on March 27, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 26, 2010, 11:41:28 PM
Quote from: CJ2000 on March 26, 2010, 11:00:51 PM
We all know L2 players stay up late. 1-2 AM is more reasonable then 8-10 AM.
Another solution would be to make it a 4 hour olympiad instead of 6 hours. Therefore it will end at 11-12am for Euro.
for Europe where the server stand's the oly time is perfect because it's already pushed away from the spot that oly normally goes . About cs they could push the first one a bit to the day but leave the second one the same witch would reduce the time between castle sieges . Because if you push cs's more into the night if a person would have a chanse to go out he couldn't because of cs . And i don't know why are you crying as i remember in one server witch we all know but i can't mention it's name because it's forbidden fortresses was at 5 am for euros and none cared
p.s olympiad was made longer so NA ppl could go to oly because it normally would end even 2 hours earlier
You are dumb and i dont get why you care about something that you are not a part of aka oly
2 lvl's to oly :) yeh i have barakiel
Doubt you'll ever be a hero. It's almost like RW ever succeeding.
Quote from: HaugeH on March 28, 2010, 04:37:02 AM
I killed him on my 70lvl sub w/o him even hitting me
pro chicken you are.
Quote from: aYotech on March 27, 2010, 12:04:43 PM
If it starts 2 hours later it would make things better.
should work even if you push it 3-4 hours later
just add 2 more hours and let's have 8 hour oly :DD
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 28, 2010, 06:17:46 AM
just add 2 more hours and let's have 8 hour oly :DD
sharap
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 28, 2010, 06:17:46 AM
just add 2 more hours and let's have 8 hour oly :DD
??? some ppl dont understand what part Oly have in L2 and why is 6h to much and 8h just unacceptable ::)
Quote from: MichaelV on March 26, 2010, 09:51:50 PM
Agree, but the only reasonable change i see is it to push it forward a few hours. Right now it starts at 6 pm gmt+1 (russia time) so i guess +2 or +3 hours would make it manageable for everyone. I don't think more then this is possible.
Edit: i'll propose it to them unless some people from some odd timezone in middle of pacific come and cry that it will be too late or too in the morning for them.
For all those who are GMT+1,GMT+2 (MNT,PL,RO,etc..) that would be like 9 pm,10 pm and then 6 hours of oly o.O? So to wait for 2, 3 am for oly to finish? Is better as Cj2000 said move it earlier 2 hours that would be for Russia 4 pm and for most of europe ok, and still good for USA ppl.
USA will have it from 6am to 11am, how is that good?
Quote from: MichaelV on March 28, 2010, 12:22:31 PM
USA will have it from 6am to 11am, how is that good?
witch time it's in euro? :)
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 28, 2010, 01:54:32 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 28, 2010, 12:22:31 PM
USA will have it from 6am to 11am, how is that good?
witch time it's in euro? :)
Having it 6 to 11am for usa would make it 3 to 8 pm for euro (gmt+2). That's not good for anyone imo, acceptable for euro but hellish for us. US ppl would have to wake up earlier, do oly for half, maybe 1h, then leave to school/work. That's not a good idea at all. Only solution is to move it a few hours later but even so ...
Quote from: CJ2000 on March 27, 2010, 06:01:18 PM
Pretty true, I bet nearly half the server's oly players are from NA timezones, while people that don't want the change will never in step foot in the olympiad.
Quote from: rimortis on March 27, 2010, 10:53:55 AM
so it was perfect when euros had to go to oly from 10 pm to 2 am every day, manor was at 11 pm and siegeable ch's at 4-5 am at weekends on azure but it sux here and is not fair... u must really think world revolves around your ass.
As I said before, it is easier for L2 players to stay up late, then to get up early.
You should go ahead and quit with the elitist attitude. I'm in the NA timezone but even I'm not so bold to say that it's mostly only us American's (and Canadian's I guess :() who play L2 seriously enough to Olympiad. Considering the fact that it is indeed mostly European's who play this server (and L2 in general, if I'm honest), it is outrageous to sit here and say that Olympiad is mostly NA people and always will be throughout this server's lifespan.
As much as I think 8AM is ridiculous for NA people, especially because I'm bias and only get home from work at around 10AM~, we must consider the people in the other timezones equally to be fair. That said, due to the complication of this particular issue, I don't really have any solid input. I'm choiceless, the decision is going to be a difficult one.
Quote from: SplichO on March 28, 2010, 11:43:35 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 26, 2010, 09:51:50 PM
Agree, but the only reasonable change i see is it to push it forward a few hours. Right now it starts at 6 pm gmt+1 (russia time) so i guess +2 or +3 hours would make it manageable for everyone. I don't think more then this is possible.
Edit: i'll propose it to them unless some people from some odd timezone in middle of pacific come and cry that it will be too late or too in the morning for them.
For all those who are GMT+1,GMT+2 (MNT,PL,RO,etc..) that would be like 9 pm,10 pm and then 6 hours of oly o.O? So to wait for 2, 3 am for oly to finish? Is better as Cj2000 said move it earlier 2 hours that would be for Russia 4 pm and for most of europe ok, and still good for USA ppl.
are u dumb? we are talking about making it +2 hours not -2
oly is at 8 am and like cj said players stay up late for oly but waking up at 8 am is just absurd.
since everyone is talking about personal preferences i will give mine
hours are just fine the way they are for me right now. they would also be fine 2 hours later.
what is not fine is the fact that on other server no one gave a dam about euros and their play time possibilities. however the euro server should give a dam about na players. that's just bull :P what makes the na players more important than eu ones ??? they qq more ?? imo that's not enough to change the hours.
there's gonna be someone qqing about this either way you put it. so there's no real win win scenario.
good point mistah
its simple. make it start 2 hours later, same thing for sieges.
/lock
Quote from: aYotech on March 29, 2010, 05:30:42 AM
its simple. make it start 2 hours later, same thing for sieges.
/lock
+++ plz
don't change anything ;)
Good to know my entire continent is represented in full force here, you can practically see people's brains dribbling out of their ears in this thread.
leave it like its now
IF oly started at 8 am your time and finished at 2 pm you wouldn't be posting that.
but it doesn't
eot
Oly now starts at 7 AM for NA players. Push it 2 hours back for the love of God.
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 29, 2010, 01:58:57 PM
don't change anything ;)
this guy posts like he even will go into Olympiad LOL, just stop posting please thanks.
2 hours later start with 4h durating = win
who the fuck fights all 6h of oly? Also, with less time on oly = more action, it will be even better for ppl watching it as well.
Quote from: Classick on March 30, 2010, 12:09:37 AM
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 29, 2010, 01:58:57 PM
don't change anything ;)
this guy posts like he even will go into Olympiad LOL, just stop posting please thanks.
already going to oly for 3 days ;) btw because it was time moving you could add +1 hour do it one hour later i would agree on that :)
imo, less time = more competition. So making the oly 4h or even 3h is way better, even if u are not fighting.
Quote from: Classick on March 30, 2010, 12:09:37 AM
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 29, 2010, 01:58:57 PM
don't change anything ;)
this guy posts like he even will go into Olympiad LOL, just stop posting please thanks.
he has 2 points in his warsmith, dont mess with the nig.
Seriously tho, I just saw that the olympiad got moved 1 hour earlier? WTF? Or did my clock get fucked?
Yesterday it was ending at 4:40 PM, today it ended at 3:40 PM. Im assuming that means it starts 1 hour earlier?
wtf gms doing seriously. You know on week days its pretty much impossible for any NA players with a job or classes to do oly until the last hour(s). That's just completely unfair. It's sieges this weekend also. 7 AM for 1st sieges, 11 am for 2nd sieges.
Fun fun. Change it seriously. Dont know what the fuck is taking so long to decide. Making Sieges/Oly periods start 2 hours later isnt gonna hurt euros AT ALL. and if it does, its less than 5%. and right now there is alot of na players getting fucked over cuz of these times.
daylight saving time
Quote from: aYotech on March 30, 2010, 01:36:37 AM
Quote from: Classick on March 30, 2010, 12:09:37 AM
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on March 29, 2010, 01:58:57 PM
don't change anything ;)
this guy posts like he even will go into Olympiad LOL, just stop posting please thanks.
he has 2 points in his warsmith, dont mess with the nig.
Seriously tho, I just saw that the olympiad got moved 1 hour earlier? WTF? Or did my clock get fucked?
Yesterday it was ending at 4:40 PM, today it ended at 3:40 PM. Im assuming that means it starts 1 hour earlier?
wtf gms doing seriously. You know on week days its pretty much impossible for any NA players with a job or classes to do oly until the last hour(s). That's just completely unfair. It's sieges this weekend also. 7 AM for 1st sieges, 11 am for 2nd sieges.
Fun fun. Change it seriously. Dont know what the fuck is taking so long to decide. Making Sieges/Oly periods start 2 hours later isnt gonna hurt euros AT ALL. and if it does, its less than 5%. and right now there is alot of na players getting fucked over cuz of these times.
in eu we moved clocks so the time zone moved abit until you will move clocks 8) or you forgot to move clock :D but i agree that we can move oly 1 hour later and first cs seage for first castles 2 hours later but don't move the second seages time
Quote from: piot on March 30, 2010, 02:03:50 AM
daylight saving time
im gmt -5 dst and oly is starting at 10 am for me
life aint always fair, oly in celes was 11pm to 3am for me, i almost failed my uni.
stop cry bonechecks.
7AM is col!! u wake up, take your coffee and make oly. What is it better than that?
Perfect waking up.
advantages: u can skip 3 hours of school/ uni/ work.
Why not sleep earlier and wake up earlier? ::)
NA already has advantages in other things like less competition on raidbosses when all EU are sleeping and not to talk about epic bosses.
i dont think it will be fair to do w/e suits the NA players considering they already have huge advantage playing on EU server.
just like Manowar said, EU suffered much more @ azure and none cared so seeing NA whinning now is kinda annoying.
Quote from: BackfromDead on March 30, 2010, 12:43:29 AM
2 hours later start with 4h durating = win
who the fuck fights all 6h of oly? Also, with less time on oly = more action, it will be even better for ppl watching it as well.
this. If you push it +2 hours then make it also 2 hours shorter. Imo 4 hours of fights are MORE then enough...
And btw NA ppl has no school and work at 9 Am? Lol
Sorry manz serbar is EU zone :<
for europeans 2h later would be fine, time would be same as on official then
Quote from: Rozjebunda on March 30, 2010, 05:55:04 PM
for europeans 2h later would be fine, time would be same as on official then
+1
+1, the sad part is this server is played by russian and made by russians since they are +3 gmt, it makes that comfortable time for them, and its sucks for any NA or any person near 0 gmt even
it starts when ppl get back from work and the russians are already ready to do oly, absurd...
make it 2-3h laters
this would make it fair for most ppl
Quote from: spookyit on March 30, 2010, 10:54:09 AM
NA already has advantages in other things like less competition on raidbosses when all EU are sleeping and not to talk about epic bosses.
i dont think it will be fair to do w/e suits the NA players considering they already have huge advantage playing on EU server.
just like Manowar said, EU suffered much more @ azure and none cared so seeing NA whinning now is kinda annoying.
So the Euros were doing oly at 7 am everyday?
Don't even try and compare playing L2 at 1-3 am vs 7-9 am.
We all know staying up late for L2 players comes natural, getting up early is nearly impossible.
You're being naive.
make it last 2 hours and start 2 hours later.
pretty much can agree with CJ on this one.
i still dont know why its taking so long. Its quite an understandable request.
stop crying oly is already overflooded with ppl no need to change anything
You are so....dumb....
I've told the admins about this, saturday if i remember well (or sunday) and they said, they will talk about it "next week". Yes, that makes it this week.
Wait for answer.
Thread degenerated in flames and petty insults. /closed