prices changed for items
why is it?
some ppl got advantaged of cheaper donation items and now rest is faked up?
stop donate pls
qq no moar donatars?
u see? if u would be better boy ur mom would give u more money for donations
The administration of rpgclub really should put the price back to 100 considering people are in the process of donating expecting to buy a certain number of cakes with their money. Changing it unannounced is a bad business practice that will discourage people from continuing to try and deal with your unnecessarily complicated and unfriendly payment system.
Quote from: lithium on March 06, 2010, 04:27:25 AM
The administration of rpgclub really should put the price back to 100 considering people are in the process of donating expecting to buy a certain number of cakes with their money. Changing it unannounced is a bad business practice that will discourage people from continuing to try and deal with your unnecessarily complicated and unfriendly payment system.
cake prises was sanged? what's the new price?
200 and you can`t buy sc with adena anymore
ahahaha now thats "unexpected" :P
that's fucked up .. atleast you could warn us now the top parties witch used cakes from the begging has even more advantages because they bouth up cakes and they have much more adenas and now everyone will have to buy cs from giran and no that won't ruin the economy :'(
its actually better, people will care more about them = more intense pvp
i couldn't warn you, i have no relation to this project anymore. i just know how some people do things here.
ask current moderators :D
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 04:54:00 AM
its actually better, people will care more about them = more intense pvp
admins just showed that money > players :) everyone was crying about q rate 1x but they worked ti change donation not to fix the q ... btw those parties that are high on lvl now have mucho mucho mucho atvantages.. atleast next time if you start a server use common sence and w8 till half of the server reaches 3rd prof then put more expencive cakes so they would use them to raise to 85 and raise sub classes ...
Quote from: Aibo on March 06, 2010, 04:59:01 AM
i couldn't warn you, i have no relation to this project anymore. i just know how some people do things here.
ask current moderators :D
And they do it bad ;)
this change brings more fun to the game, if you care more about rl money than having fun playing l2 you shouldnt be playing but working.
so idk whats the point of complaining really, its well known fact that nobody hosts a server because they love L2 but to make money. as long as they provide decent service theyll earn cash, simple as that.
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 05:02:06 AM
this change brings more fun to the game, if you care more about rl money than having fun playing l2 you shouldnt be playing but working.
so idk whats the point of complaining really, its well known fact that nobody hosts a server because they love L2 but to make money. as long as they provide decent service theyll earn cash, simple as that.
yeah, people can adapt to everything. and that's why this project is still "alive" (and that's why it's not the best having the best files ;))
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 05:02:06 AM
this change brings more fun to the game, if you care more about rl money than having fun playing l2 you shouldnt be playing but working.
so idk whats the point of complaining really, its well known fact that nobody hosts a server because they love L2 but to make money. as long as they provide decent service theyll earn cash, simple as that.
Yes it is very fair all the people that got their donations early that weren't Americans get everything for half price. True story.
many people from USA got their donations already, dunno what ure talking about.
People In US cant donate using phones. People who used Paypal have not got their shit yet. Very few people from US managed to donate.
people from USA that donated via paypal got their shit already. 100% sure.
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 05:18:14 AM
people from USA that donated via paypal got their shit already. 100% sure.
I know people who donated 5 days ago that still have not got their shit, 100% sure.
that might be the case, but still your first post regarding "americans not getting their donations" isnt valid. as 1st they paid the old price i believe and as 2nd it has nothing to do with being american. cold war is over bro.
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 05:02:06 AM
this change brings more fun to the game, if you care more about rl money than having fun playing l2 you shouldnt be playing but working.
so idk whats the point of complaining really, its well known fact that nobody hosts a server because they love L2 but to make money. as long as they provide decent service theyll earn cash, simple as that.
you my friend don't know a thing called logic . I'm not talking about money , i'm talking about dispalance in all the game that this donation made . It would be all right if it would be announced that- after 1 week from the start cakes will be more expensive so people would donate more etc . etc and everyone would rush more now everyone was shilled because they see that they will be able to buy cakes when they will lvl up and now they made them more expensive and they made them in first week... now cake pack cost 1/3 of a daily salary in my country gf .. I would swear a lot but i won't because i don't want to get a ban :D
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 05:21:03 AM
that might be the case, but still your first post regarding "americans not getting their donations" isnt valid. as 1st they paid the old price i believe and as 2nd it has nothing to do with being american. cold war is over bro.
It is very valid, your an idiot.
someone who donated for coins 1 day or more ago that did not receive them now gets half of what he could buy before.
once again AMERICANS CANT DONATE WITH PHONE, so they have to use other methods which are not instant. EX: still waiting for there stuff.
Quote from: MightyGrape on March 06, 2010, 05:24:34 AM
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 05:21:03 AM
that might be the case, but still your first post regarding "americans not getting their donations" isnt valid. as 1st they paid the old price i believe and as 2nd it has nothing to do with being american. cold war is over bro.
It is very valid, your an idiot.
someone who donated for coins 1 day or more ago that did not receive them now gets half of what he could buy before.
once again AMERICANS CANT DONATE WITH PHONE, so they have to use other methods which are not instant. EX: still waiting for there stuff.
i agree he's an idiot ;)
Quote from: MightyGrape on March 06, 2010, 05:24:34 AM
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 05:21:03 AM
that might be the case, but still your first post regarding "americans not getting their donations" isnt valid. as 1st they paid the old price i believe and as 2nd it has nothing to do with being american. cold war is over bro.
It is very valid, your an idiot.
someone who donated for coins 1 day or more ago that did not receive them now gets half of what he could buy before.
once again AMERICANS CANT DONATE WITH PHONE, so they have to use other methods which are not instant. EX: still waiting for there stuff.
whatever, rage more over a video game. and mr. "flame section rules" go find a real job, crying about costly coins makes u look pathetic.
Someone I know donated for 198 coins, expecting to buy 10 cakes, now he can't even buy 5 because he is short 2 coins. I'm impressed.
Not raging about a video game. Raging about the money being spent on a video game. If it was 200 from the start it would not have mattered and this discussion would have been irrelevant.
The point is they are jewing a ton of people that have no received their coins yet and anyone who did not donate in the first few days.
http://cgx.ru/temp/putin_cake.swf
as we've seen before, most of the changes they implement arent permanent and are easily reversible. so give them some time, filing in a regular complaint would help more than associating with the LT forum mascot in bashing them.
And about 200 instead of 198 is pretty lame, i agree. if it was 99 before, doubling the price shouldnt be 200. They have to fix it.
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 05:41:40 AM
as we've seen before, most of the changes they implement arent permanent and are easily reversible. so give them some time, filing in a regular complaint would help more than associating with the LT forum mascot in bashing them.
And about 200 instead of 198 is pretty lame, i agree. if it was 99 before, doubling the price shouldnt be 200. They have to fix it.
The smart thing to do for them if they DO want to raise it to 200 is.
1: Make it cost what it was before ASAP
2: Make sure everyone that has donated gets all their coins
3: Give a 2 day warning saying that after those two days the price will be set at 200.
Quote from: MightyGrape on March 06, 2010, 05:54:35 AM
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 05:41:40 AM
as we've seen before, most of the changes they implement arent permanent and are easily reversible. so give them some time, filing in a regular complaint would help more than associating with the LT forum mascot in bashing them.
And about 200 instead of 198 is pretty lame, i agree. if it was 99 before, doubling the price shouldnt be 200. They have to fix it.
The smart thing to do for them if they DO want to raise it to 200 is.
1: Make it cost what it was before ASAP
2: Make sure everyone that has donated gets all their coins
3: Give a 2 day warning saying that after those two days the price will be set at 200.
a warning is a must .. Making it two times more expensive should be negated . if you want to get more money just remove adena trade to sc and leave ewerything like it was before but ANOUNCE before you do that ... first big fail for the server .. You're messing arround with 5k players so please don't forget that they have an opinion to
omg i just donated today and now they changed it... this fucking sucks
Quote from: lithium on March 06, 2010, 04:27:25 AM
The administration of rpgclub really should put the price back to 100 considering people are in the process of donating expecting to buy a certain number of cakes with their money. Changing it unannounced is a bad business practice that will discourage people from continuing to try and deal with your unnecessarily complicated and unfriendly payment system.
This. And what the hell.. Was there even an announcement warning us about the price change? Or you just decide on a whim? Its ridiculous
And you should put the adena option back in. The only reason I didnt mind having game-effecting donations available was BECAUSE people could purchase them with adena instead if they chose to.
put the fucking prices back. you obviously knew we would become cake addicts, now I cant exp without level 4 vitality, i get anxious and nervous when im without cake buff and I see my vitality dropping. its gonna cost me $2 per hour just to feed my habit, thats more than I earn in 5 hours labour. i had to rob a mobile phone this morning.. gonna keep me going for a few more days but how am i supposed to make this kinda of moneyz
pls i need cakes i cannot handle this pls gm give cakeeee
what u expected?
admins are russ :D
I think this was a bad thing to do for the server in two seperate ways.
1. The adena for Silver Coins thing was perfectly fine. This allowed non-donators to have a chance of at least getting the same things that the donators got. I think this should definitely be put back in.
2. There were MANY people who donated down to the exact silver coin amount for how many cakes they expected/wanted to get. You should at least allow people to get the amount of items they were expecting to get with their initial donation. You are going to alienate a LOT of the donators with this.
If you're going to change the prices of the cakes and take out the adena for coins thing you need to TELL PEOPLE in advance. As you can tell by the outroar you're having this is going to cost you more money than it will make.
in 2 weeks we will have 10kk adena for 200 silvercoins back ;)
What about to lose your Cake when server goes down? we lost like 3 cakes becouse of this... you should make something is not funny spend some $ in cakes, pop it up and then server just go down and you lost your cake... GF next time i gonna drop money from my window in my house and this will be more funny.
Cake addicts :D (no, i don't know anything yet, just got up)
Quote from: MichaelV on March 06, 2010, 10:07:18 AM
Cake addicts :D (no, i don't know anything yet, just got up)
micheal can you be a good moderator and explain out possisiot to admin? maybe he will change he's mind for 1 more week and announce that after a week it will be changed so everyone would have a week to get used to it :)
Already did.
well for dear admins , if you want to get better donations just remove coins bought with Adena , and let the same prices of 100 coins , so u will get way more donations ;) cause ppl wont buy anymore with adena will donate and buy with 100 SC , i dont feel very good now , because i bought lots of coins to see now i can buy half cakes , thats not fair
Atm this is biggest mistake :]
lol...
Imagine they reverse it back now... how many EU people will just grab their phone and donate with the old price knowing that in 2 days it might get back to 200?
:)
you can't buy bank notes with adena anymore?
+ if some1 already exchanged coins for cakes yesterday, its fuking redarded. I mean come on - yesterday i donated to get 15 cakes, but ofc delays in getting silvercoins meant i got coins today. And guess what? i cant buy what i paid for :|
This is just retarded, so what now you gonna make it cost 400 coins in 1 week?
Put back coins to 100 per pack of 5 cakes!
This is like stealing $$$ from people, cose me and a friend of mine did donation yesterday and till donation was given to chars you decided to change price of cakes, wtf?
Quote from: SplichO on March 06, 2010, 12:59:25 PM
This is just retarded, so what now you gonna make it cost 400 coins in 1 week?
Put back coins to 100 per pack of 5 cakes!
+1
I already donate for 5cake ( 99sc ), and i would take more.
But now at this price, its better to pk guys and take them cakes...
They want make more $$$ ?
They wont...
Before 100 guys gave $ for sc.
Now only 20 will ( at this price )....
Admin you will loose $ with this decision !
Is 1 thing changing spoil rate or drop rate, but this is changing DONATION, is riping off people for $$$$, wtf.
Well, as SplichO said - its just ripping people off their real money. Because if yesterday i knew that price will be doubled by the time i get my SC - i wouldnt donate at all. GJ Admins! Really Great Job!
i got now 10 cakes instead of 20 in total, so GF Admins?
Quote from: Aibo on March 06, 2010, 05:08:16 AM
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 05:02:06 AM
this change brings more fun to the game, if you care more about rl money than having fun playing l2 you shouldnt be playing but working.
so idk whats the point of complaining really, its well known fact that nobody hosts a server because they love L2 but to make money. as long as they provide decent service theyll earn cash, simple as that.
yeah, people can adapt to everything. and that's why this project is still "alive" (and that's why it's not the best having the best files ;))
col story bro
What admins should do is something with the shut downs, we lost multiple cakes because of that, for that I would give away my money to poor people instead of wasting it in e-cakes.
how long will it take us to QQ in forums to make cakes 100 again? and how much time will we have to wait to 5x q items
+1 for quest items, theres not much to do w/o eq on 77/78+ -,-
Quote from: miou on March 06, 2010, 01:50:31 PM
+1 for quest items, theres not much to do w/o eq on 77/78+ -,-
There's a thread for that. Don't turn this into an another "5x quest items", I'm sure they're aware of that already
Just saying. :)
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 04:54:00 AM
its actually better, people will care more about them = more intense pvp
Einstein has spoken.
LMAO
no moar cakez, no 5x Q rate... why ? oh snap bcs
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communism or russia has nothing to do with certain person's ignorance and greed :P
So many unhappy players and no gm arround gf 8)
guys, the only way we can change this is if we stop donating for a week. then they'll realise they havw to change it back
Well this is fucking bullshit.
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Quote from: vaurk on March 06, 2010, 02:07:20 PM
Quote from: ukyo on March 06, 2010, 04:54:00 AM
its actually better, people will care more about them = more intense pvp
Einstein has spoken.
LMAO
yo scammer, cj is dry, go hump.
WTB> cakes for 99 sc and sc for adena ;o
Back on the topic, still question for Admins are they gonna change it back how it was or they gonna "fu*k" up the people who did donation lately, and those who planed to do it now or in near future?
MichaelIV: Did the main admins said anything to you?
Dear GM dont do this shit. Server was almost perfect. I was donating yesterday $$ via liqpay. i just buyes 5 cakes and my pc fucked up. now what? i must buy new pc and pay 2x more for cakes. dont be retarded :(
Changing Rules in midle of game its not good. The same chance for all.
Change things without previous warning/discussion is the fastest way to loose reputation, money and players.
At least promote a day to change SC for Cakes (Old prices) for people who donate before this great idea (price change).
Good Lucky.
Quote from: nab on March 06, 2010, 03:37:05 PM
guys, the only way we can change this is if we stop donating for a week. then they'll realise they havw to change it back
+1
/signed
Quote from: hifi4 on March 06, 2010, 05:10:10 PM
Dear GM dont do this shit. Server was almost perfect. I was donating yesterday $$ via liqpay. i just buyes 5 cakes and my pc fucked up. now what? i must buy new pc and pay 2x more for cakes. dont be retarded :(
Changing Rules in midle of game its not good. The same chance for all.
again, GMs have nothing to do with this. ask the one who is really "doing this shit".
hint: https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php?action=profile;u=924
here's the guy who's in charge of all the $$$-related stuff. yea, the one who never even speaks to people who pay him money.
and others just "do what he says". by complaining and waiting an answer from moderators like MichaelV you're just making it harder for the moderator. if you want an answer - ask the one responsible. i hope you get one.
SC for adena most probably won't be returned to shop. About the item prices, you'll have to wait for an answer from an admin.
yep.. we donated yterday and now we lost half of our cakes.
pls, advise before making changes like this..
???
cmon guys, be fair and fix it..
put it back for 100sc, if u want keep it for 200sc, no problem just let ppl who donated b4 get their cakes cus when we did it we were thinking that 100sc = 5 cakes. Those changes w/o any kind of announce is a total disrespect with ppl who helped the server
/agree
u have 2 month to make good donation list!!! why u dont change cake price before server start? if u think with bigger price u get more money u are wrong.
yes and its very unfair other players got this advantage cuz they had verifed accounts already it took alot longer for em to get my donation
Well we see 6 Pages of proper reasons why the donation's should putted back, but still no word from Admins.
Its ridiculous to have cakes not in the shops for adena either! You will still make money if they are in the shop for adena, but it makes it fair to those who don't have tons of RL $$$ who will have a BIG advantage over people without $$$ in real life. Thats ridiculous for someone to have an advantage in a VIDEO GAME because they have money in real life. Defeats the purpose of the game!
The only reason I didn't mind having exp donations, hats, and whatever else was because you could buy the coins with adena also! Make them more expensive or w/e, but at least still have them!
Quote from: Hypurr on March 06, 2010, 06:23:37 PM
Its ridiculous to have cakes not in the shops for adena either! You will still make money if they are in the shop for adena, but it makes it fair to those who don't have tons of RL $$$ who will have a BIG advantage over people without $$$ in real life. Thats ridiculous for someone to have an advantage in a VIDEO GAME because they have money in real life. Defeats the purpose of the game!
The only reason I didn't mind having exp donations, hats, and whatever else was because you could buy the coins with adena also! Make them more expensive or w/e, but at least still have them!
is not about $$ in rl......is about the ways of donating
Agree, It's not ( well, wasn't :p ) even 6$ for a set of cakes, I think it's not that much and I live in a 3rd world country :D
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Fix QI b4 change the prices ;D
I donated for 198 coins(now not enough to get any cakes), so I added 202 more and I get this.
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gratz
Because of the slow turnaround on donations (cough waiting for 3 days cough) we're fucked out of...25 fucking cakes. We donated for 50, and now we get 25 cakes because of this bullshit.
Your a baker, people come in to get some cake, order what they want, pay you, and you tell em to come back in a few days it'll be ready. When they come back in, you tell them to cough up for the price of another cake. How Bullshit is that? No warning, no reason but greed.
Now instead, I have to donate with a huge sadface on.
Like the guy said before the only way to get em to change the price is to not donate but that pretty much wont happen.
Did you guys learned anything since the server started? If it's anything to be learned, that is to have PATIENCE. It's the weekend, they have no obligations to do it in this second so you can be happy. They will do it when they'll have time and think it's right. Keep your SC until they answer you. I try to inform them about stuff like this as fast as i can but they're not always available, specially in the weekend.
lol when u guys finally get a decent comunity
with 5k+ players ull just fu.ck up cuz u want only get more money
since u are already getting lot of money on the old price
ull just kill ur server brah gl
Quote from: MichaelV on March 06, 2010, 07:56:24 PM
Did you guys learned anything since the server started? If it's anything to be learned, that is to have PATIENCE. It's the weekend, they have no obligations to do it in this second so you can be happy. They will do it when they'll have time and think it's right. Keep your SC until they answer you. I try to inform them about stuff like this as fast as i can but they're not always available, specially in the weekend.
You mean they will wait till after the weekend after everyone has spent their money....
nobody forces you to buy stuff ::)...
No, i have no idea when and if they'll do anything. I just said you should have patience, this is a private server and the owners have no obligations to do anything in this second. Like it or not that's how it is. I'm waiting for an answer also.
Its like 'Yo guys i'm on your side, gimme god damn cake maxim!'?
You'll get your answers as soon as possible, most of this things are being discussed at the moment.
please add chocolate cake to donation shop, i feel that only have vanilla cake in shop is clearly showing a racist bias.
And a chicken pot pie, that would be juicy, oh yes oh yes :-*
202+198 = 399 apparently.
Binkz donated 198 for 2 packs of 99 cakes. Then he donated 202 to get 2 packs of cakes since price went up and they jipped him 1 coin.
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8702/russianmath.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8702/russianmath.jpg)
I just wonder, do you even know why people play here instead of some private european/us server ?
a) Good files
b) FAIR DONATION.
You just broke rule b) by RUINING THE GAME BALANCE with REMOVING CAKE FOR ADENA.
And BTW this is the first time I see a server doubling the prices of donations after they saw they are making a lot of money. SO LAME. You just DO NOT DO THAT. Nobody DOES. You have a few months to think of a donation system, you announce it, then wait for the server to start and then suddenly TOTALLY CHANGE IT. GF, nice server.
p.s. If this shi.t doesn't go back to its previous state I'm defenenately quitting.
I quess ppl would say nothin if those cakes would be same price since the beggining and no cakes for adena :-\
Quote from: Forebear on March 06, 2010, 09:39:18 PM
I quess ppl would say nothin if those cakes would be same price since the beggining and no cakes for adena :-\
They wouldn't but many of the non donators would just not start because of unfair advantage of donators. Its alright if u can catch up to the donators after some time (with cake for adena) but seriously who would ever play here if they knew that donators will get x3 the exp they do ?
then i think that will be my last donate :) .....gf gms
Quote from: Y0yOy0 on March 06, 2010, 09:34:37 PM
I just wonder, do you even know why people play here instead of some private european/us server ?
a) Good files
b) FAIR DONATION.
You just broke rule b) by RUINING THE GAME BALANCE with REMOVING CAKE FOR ADENA.
And BTW this is the first time I see a server doubling the prices of donations after they saw they are making a lot of money. SO LAME. You just DO NOT DO THAT. Nobody DOES. You have a few months to think of a donation system, you announce it, then wait for the server to start and then suddenly TOTALLY CHANGE IT. GF, nice server.
p.s. If this shi.t doesn't go back to its previous state I'm defenenately quitting.
That.
Quote from: Y0yOy0 on March 06, 2010, 09:34:37 PM
I just wonder, do you even know why people play here instead of some private european/us server ?
a) Good files
b) FAIR DONATION.
You just broke rule b) by RUINING THE GAME BALANCE with REMOVING CAKE FOR ADENA.
And BTW this is the first time I see a server doubling the prices of donations after they saw they are making a lot of money. SO LAME. You just DO NOT DO THAT. Nobody DOES. You have a few months to think of a donation system, you announce it, then wait for the server to start and then suddenly TOTALLY CHANGE IT. GF, nice server.
+1..
its the 30x all over again
QQ? just simple as dont donate and play legit
its all kewl man.
i have heard that people are quitting server and recalling any money spent..
admin should change this before other people do this..it will hurt server to be greedy
Can you say 'Blackmail'?
SC for adena was removed because:
1) Later on when adena will be in excess nobody will donate --> no money to pay server bills;
2) Later on when adena will be in excess server will be flooded with cakes and other items from donation shop.
Putting the old prices back for a short period of time is being considered but don't count on it. What i can tell you is that next time something like this happens you will be announced in advance. Sorry for the troubles created.
Quote from: MichaelV on March 06, 2010, 11:09:47 PM
SC for adena was removed because:
1) Later on when adena will be in excess nobody will donate --> no money to pay server bills;
2) Later on when adena will be in excess server will be flooded with cakes and other items from donation shop.
Putting the old prices back for a short period of time is being considered but don't count on it. What i can tell you is that next time something like this happens you will be announced in advance. Sorry for the troubles created.
Well, tell the admins(or whoever is responsible for prices) that they are fuktards, who even after delaying server for 2 months, cant think of a good donation system that they dont have to change. SC for adena - ok, can live with that. But we just got ripped of half of the money we donated. They literally STOLE it from us. I dont care if this shit is normal in russia, but its not cool at all. They just fuked up a really nice server.
Quote from: MichaelV on March 06, 2010, 11:09:47 PM
Putting the old prices back for a short period of time is being considered but don't count on it. What i can tell you is that next time something like this happens you will be announced in advance. Sorry for the troubles created.
Where is the balance in this? Why so sudden DOUBLE the price for Cakes? Is not like is 10 coins or 20 coins more is DOUBLE? Does administration wants to have reputation such as this one atm?
I told you it's being discussed. How about waiting for a decision and after start to complain, ok?
If the decision is made against it there is no point in complaining.......because they wont change it.
MV: whatever the decision there is no point in continue complaining. We understand your complaints after 8 pages, point is made very clear.
Quote from: goferzo on March 06, 2010, 11:15:39 PM
Well, tell the admins(or whoever is responsible for prices) that they are fuktards, who even after delaying server for 2 months, cant think of a good donation system that they dont have to change. SC for adena - ok, can live with that. But we just got ripped of half of the money we donated. They literally STOLE it from us. I dont care if this shit is normal in russia, but its not cool at all. They just fuked up a really nice server.
i know that noone listens to me anyway, but (cause i've told you, who responsible for the prices):
it's not normal in russia, and i'd like to ask MichaelV to stop bringing in "russian mentality" every time admins fuck something up. personal ignorance and greed of some narcissistic sob has nothing to do with people's mentality.
i'm russian too and i don't like that. thank you.
Quote from: MichaelV on March 06, 2010, 11:21:02 PM
I told you it's being discussed. How about waiting for a decision and after start to complain, ok?
right way is FIRST discuss THEN implement. but discussions with an ass is impossible (VaronRojo case).
and i won't ever believe that "omg server is hardly paying the bills so now prices are 2x". yeah, right.
get used to being used.
P.S:
and more or less right way to do this was for the almighty admin to come down from his fucking golden throne and say something like: "guys, thanks for your support, but we have additional expenses coming up, so we have to change donation system in 2 or 3 days: [changelist]".
it's not that hard to spend few minutes on the people who donate money to you. of course it'd still be bad, but you won't get so much disrespect from your players like in this case.
but i'm afraid someone's ego is much too bloated to fit in the forum, isn't it? :Dnow i rest my case. :P
And really don't remove adena for coins all together at least. Make it 10x more expensive or something... at least make it be available for people to farm adena for and buy.
Its like a donator server without it. BRB donating for 15x, have fun with x5 poor fucks. >_>
They better at least halt all donations for a while till they sort out everyones donations and let them buy the stuff before reinstating the 2x donation price.
awesome scam, gg staff :D
Quote from: Hypurr on March 06, 2010, 11:27:49 PM
Its like a donator server without it. BRB donating for 15x, have fun with x5 poor fucks. >_>
You mean BRB looking for a new server on l2top.
Quote from: MichaelV on March 06, 2010, 11:21:02 PM
I told you it's being discussed. How about waiting for a decision and after start to complain, ok?
In a normal world, we discuss before make a change. Not after. Or I'm wrong?
only can say that u can lose ppl coz this .
Quote from: BojanNBGD on March 06, 2010, 11:56:59 PM
only can say that u can lose ppl coz this .
They will probably also loose money instead of making more. People don't like being blackmailed.
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Ofcourse it's normal to discuss, but we got the idea from the first 2 pages. Last 6 pages is the same thing over and over again. Understand now? At least add your comments without dramatizing.
Aibo, i told them that it was a bad move to change it without announcing it and they said it was always done this way until international ppl came here. That's why i said "russian mentality", cause it seemed they are used to do it like this while ppl outside of russia are not used the same way.
Anyway, most probably SC for adena won't make it back (unless any of you will offer later in the servers life to pay the bills) so better get used to it. About the change in price, i have no idea yet what will be done.
Nice sig Volume : )
Quote from: MichaelV on March 07, 2010, 12:06:33 AM
Aibo, i told them that it was a bad move to change it without announcing it and they said it was always done this way until international ppl came here. That's why i said "russian mentality", cause it seemed they are used to do it like this while ppl from russia are not used the same way.
and that's one of the reasons (if not the only reason) why this server is not top even in Russia. even having the best files. because "things were always done this way". ;)
Quote from: Volume on March 07, 2010, 12:04:13 AM
My signature explains all
it makes me somehow sad :( poor guy
Things can change you know, and although at a very slow pace they do change. Best learning experience is trial and error... if u get what i'm saying : )
Do you know what ? You are not even helping urselves with that decision because lets say if 1000 people are willing to pay $1 for 1 hour of L2, and now you make it $2 I bet it will be less than 200 people who will say that is also alright.
And about the "things have always been done this way", yea I can see that, the russian players made a poll on russian forums and they had 83.33% voting that this change is ruining the server, and Admin closed the thread just like that. You don't care about peoples oppenion. And are you telling me that the thousands of dolars you will make every month is not enough to maintain the server? If you want to buy a porche go rob a bank, you already got experience robbing people.
Quote from: Y0yOy0 on March 07, 2010, 12:29:14 AM
Do you know what ? You are not even helping urselves with that decision because lets say if 1000 people are willing to pay $1 for 1 hour of L2, and now you make it $2 I bet it will be less than 200 people who will say that is also alright.
And about the "things have always been done this way", yea I can see that, the russian players made a poll on russian forums and they had 83.33% voting that this change is ruining the server, and Admin closed the thread just like that. You don't care about peoples oppenion. And are you telling me that the thousands of dolars you will make every month is not enough to maintain the server? If you want to buy a porche go rob a bank, you already got experience robbing people.
its working a bit different way u know? now a lot of ppl will donate for cake bcuz they r "addicted" to it...
And what about the ppl that cant afford to donate for them?
Just QQ :o?
Quote from: BadDude on March 07, 2010, 12:32:29 AM
its working a bit different way u know? now a lot of ppl will donate for cake bcuz they r "addicted" to it...
All i know is I had 30+ ppl donating in my clan and now I have 1 left who is willing to donate for $2.
Soo ummm... How much does it costs to buy 5 cakes?
At the moment? 200 silver coins.
(They come in a pack of 5.)
QQQQQQQQQQQ CANT PLAY WITH NO CAEK QQQQQQQQQQQ
srsly cant u fuking wait some hours/days/week/months. till they find a way to maek u happeh?
Quote from: Kewlpwnz1 on March 07, 2010, 01:05:51 AM
QQQQQQQQQQQ CANT PLAY WITH NO CAEK QQQQQQQQQQQ
srsly cant u fuking wait some hours/days/week/months. till they find a way to maek u happeh?
hahahaha, GTFO? Is weekend people donated so they could play during weekend, and this is fuking up all those who did donations lately.
Quote from: SplichO on March 07, 2010, 01:11:18 AM
Quote from: Kewlpwnz1 on March 07, 2010, 01:05:51 AM
QQQQQQQQQQQ CANT PLAY WITH NO CAEK QQQQQQQQQQQ
srsly cant u fuking wait some hours/days/week/months. till they find a way to maek u happeh?
hahahaha, GTFO? Is weekend people donated so they could play during weekend, and this is fuking up all those who did donations lately.
so ppl gotta think better in what they are spending his adena and if it is trustable or not..... ::) ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: MichaelV on March 07, 2010, 12:06:33 AM
Anyway, most probably SC for adena won't make it back (unless any of you will offer later in the servers life to pay the bills) so better get used to it.
that doesnt make sense some people simply cant donate because they are a kid or w/e i dunno there are tons of reasons
lets just say it this way lets say im the only donater in the server cus the other people are cheap fucks :P
so im pretty much in control of those silver coins now u remove the ability for me to sell those coins to other people
which means i do not feel like donating anymore the other people who cant donate for some reason where gettin coins from me they can no longer get those coins u guys get no donations anymore
unless i got it totally wrong then please ignore me but when u say SC for adena that means sellin SC to normal players right or did u mean SC for adena in donate shop?
Is anyone leveling without cakes? With 5-6k people on, and the staff taking in 1$(2$ now)/h per group they must be getting a shit load of donation money.
You can level with cake without donate.
1. Enter room
2. See cake
3. Wipe party
4. Cake
Quote from: Volume on March 07, 2010, 04:04:14 AM
You can level with cake without donate.
1. Enter room
2. See cake
3. Wipe party
4. Cake
1.get lethaled by lvl 50 dagger
2. BB items :D
the caek is a lie.... u can see it but its not rlly there...
GAYGAYGAYGYAGYAGYAYGAYGAYGYAGYAGYAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAYGAGYAGAYGAYGAYGAYGAGYAGYAGYAGYAGAGY
ninja cake is ninja!
where is the gms?
where is the cake
TOPT! )))))))
can someone explain why we can't buy SC with adena anymore? can't you still buy banknotes > sc > cake?
my advice is back price like old for 1 more week and than make it higher again .
2 days + for getting an answer about this?
>:(
:) :-\ :( :-[ >:(
admins? >:(
Quote from: SplichO on March 07, 2010, 03:50:56 PM
2 days + for getting an answer about this?
They are just waiting to see if they are gonna make more money now than they made before and then decide rofl. GF Admins.
Quote from: Volume on March 07, 2010, 01:00:57 AM
At the moment? 200 silver coins.
(They come in a pack of 5.)
No mate, i mean dollars, blind bling, shiney money n shit...
https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php?topic=2179.msg29874#msg29874
Quote- NOTE that x5 server will have another currency rate. 1 Slvercoin = + 0.04 USD.
200 * 0.04 = 8$
So... 8$ for 5 cakes? That's like ... very cheap imo :/
200 silver coins = Dollars 10.96 USD
there is a fee you need to pay when u send money, and yes 11$ for 5 cakes is quite alot, it's just stupid.
Change it back allready, stop to be dumb.
Capitalist !
This is just going around in circles, the worst part about this situation is the unannounced price change.
End of story.
And the fact that Michael is the only one responding to any complaints, shows how little the admin really care.
The main admins (and owners) are // with english language, that's why u don't see them posting (at least that's what i know). Check the russian forum, they're pretty active there.
"International Server"
cool story bro
change on old fuking price
Quote from: Sexico on March 07, 2010, 09:16:50 PM
200 silver coins = Dollars 10.96 USD
there is a fee you need to pay when u send money, and yes 11$ for 5 cakes is quite alot, it's just stupid.
Change it back allready, stop to be dumb.
Holy fucking jesus mother of fucking god, thats just mean! >:( me no liky... I was about to donate cuz i thought 5 cakes would be like 2 dollars or 4, but comon, 11? That aint coo.
AOAOAOOAOAOAOOA
Blame the economic crisis, flower is extremely expensive. Sure, those peasants are greedy too, but it's mostly cause of the economic crisis : (
i blame KGB
they made money this far, they'll be making at least as much from now on; so stop complaining and deal with it or change server:P what's so hard? ::)
Quote from: MichaelV on March 08, 2010, 12:48:44 AM
Blame the economic crisis, flower is extremely expensive. Sure, those peasants are greedy too, but it's mostly cause of the economic crisis : (
LOL u know ur talking bulshit because they were making tons of money with the 5 dolar cake packs already. Only my clan donated over $1000 for a week.
Quote from: Y0yOy0 on March 08, 2010, 01:31:10 AM
LOL u know ur talking bulshit because they were making tons of money with the 5 dolar cake packs already. Only my clan donated over $1000 for a week.
I'm pretty sure that was a joke >.>
Quote from: CommunismFTW on March 08, 2010, 01:41:24 AM
I'm pretty sure that was a joke >.>
And I'm even more sure it was not.
MV: u shouldn't be so sure.
so..................
???
Quote from: Igorius on March 08, 2010, 11:24:37 AM
so..................
???
i'll tell you what he would say.
Quote from: MichaelVYou'll get your answers as soon as possible, most of this things are being discussed at the moment.
Quote from: MichaelVNo, i have no idea when and if they'll do anything. I just said you should have patience...
Quote from: MichaelV
i don't know yet, i'm not taking part in the discussion. All i can do is give them my advice and wait for their decision. And that's what i'm doing : )
Exactly, because it's not up to me. All i know is that they talked about it and that's what i told u too. I'm trying to get an answer from them now but it's morning and i'll have to leave so it will remain for later tonight... hopefully. Mby Alice or Shabaka can give you an answer until then.
Ok, i got an answer and you won't enjoy it. Decision is: it will stay like it is now with no changes at all.
We're sorry for not announcing this change in advance and we can assure you that, from now on, you will get announcements for any important changes that might occur in the future.
This decision is FINAL, thread closed.
In other news, be on the lookout for new rules later tonight concerning multi boxing, nicks containing russian characters and trade zones.