As you can see, there is a sticky here with info from admins. So, cause time is pretty much flying, i made this thread so anyone can post their questions for administration. After a few days we will choose those that seem more important and post them in sticky. Hopefully we will get answers for them too :).
Guess ppl need to know clear info about the rates and the specs of the server / sql server, so i'll post questions about them. If anyone has other questions please post them so we can add them to the sticky.
PLEASE no spam, thnx.
Will they fix sod on x5 or it's gonna be like on x30?
1. When can we expect english version of main site ?
2. Are bugs from 30x going to be fixed on 5x ? ( at start or in a near future )
3. Could you give us a one or two live moderators on english forums and maybe english speaking gm ?
4. Rest of mine questions about dual boxes, rates I already asked on other topics. Hope somebody is going to answer them.
so my question is:
why u dont fix sod on 30x?
Is it possible for 5x to start with the squash event?
Quote from: U.C.C on February 06, 2010, 08:47:07 PM
Is it possible for 5x to start with the squash event?
that's easy one, even I can answer it...yes, it is possible
NO SPAM please, his question can be transformed to "will we have any event at start of the server" ?
Quote from: sluki on February 07, 2010, 02:27:52 AM
Quote from: U.C.C on February 06, 2010, 08:47:07 PM
Is it possible for 5x to start with the squash event?
that's easy one, even I can answer it...yes, it is possible
I was asking the admin, if there is one here.
Looking for official info on the location of the server.
Rummors says NL/DE.
It is posible to know, what hardware settings will have x5 server?
Alice is online very often but no answers at all :(
/spam off
She won't answer here. I will post this questions in the official topic and we will wait for answers there. I'll leave this thread for 1 more day then update the official one.
Where the server will stand? Moscow? Or is there any chance that it will be in Germany etc.?
Go read the how many dual-clients vote thread.
Least voted: 3 boxes
Admin's decision: 3 boxes.
Guess what, they don't care about your opinion, please close and delete this thread.
Quote from: Volume on February 09, 2010, 12:21:59 AM
Go read the how many dual-clients vote thread.
Least voted: 3 boxes
Admin's decision: 3 boxes.
Guess what, they don't care about your opinion, please close and delete this thread.
They ask about info, this is not opinion... your better close your computer and use brain.
Quote from: Volume on February 09, 2010, 12:21:59 AM
Go read the how many dual-clients vote thread.
Least voted: 3 boxes
Admin's decision: 3 boxes.
Guess what, they don't care about your opinion, please close and delete this thread.
i played a lot of private server and its a lot better if server owners do what they have planned earlier, not asking forum morons for opinion... this way always things work better, ofc ppl can make a petition to change somethting and it CAN be considered by staff.
this way everything is a lot easier
It's going to be 3 clients since on every server IT IS like this.
What's the point of changing it if it works fine?
I've updated the sticky with new questions. If u will have other q's post them here. And please, refrain from SPAMING this topic. Thanx
- what will be offers from NPC shop (on 30x is D,C crystals, shots and buffs till 40; on 1x is only buffs till 40)
- what will be offers from cat NPC (on 30x is first and second class change for FREE, mammon functions)
- quest rates: HS, varka, 700, IT/FoG, pagan/monastery, GC 1+2, loa 2, dimensional fragments, blank scrolls (hope i didn't forget any other important quest)
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QuoteAnd, just a little bit less important, will we have a better antibot system? Because right now even an idiot can bot without problems.
Alice didn't answered to this important question for me.
If the answer is no ,Does there will be actives gm for ban those bot ?
I'm pretty sure there will be gm's to search&destroy the botters and the bot report button works so... petition wars shoot away
Btw there is some news on ru site just click on x5, still to info about final rates on q. etc
https://www.rpg-club.org/?p=events
My question is:
Which features from the game up to the Gracia Final ain't yet working on the 5x but will be working in a near future?
Quote from: msonix on February 10, 2010, 03:38:57 AM
My question is:
Which features from the game up to the Gracia Final ain't yet working on the 5x but will be working in a near future?
all features up to gracia final r working
Quote from: BadDude on February 10, 2010, 04:06:13 AM
Quote from: msonix on February 10, 2010, 03:38:57 AM
My question is:
Which features from the game up to the Gracia Final ain't yet working on the 5x but will be working in a near future?
all features up to gracia final r working
i guess he's talking about oly points (no clue if they fixed it already) and sod
He asked about features, not bugs.
Everything is working my dear friend :) u could play retail and not notice any difference.
BUT! There are a couple of annoying bugs and we don't know why admin doesn't fix them... mby it's too hard.
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 10, 2010, 12:09:54 PM
He asked about features, not bugs.
Everything is working my dear friend :) u could play retail and not notice any difference.
BUT! There are a couple of annoying bugs and we don't know why admin doesn't fix them... mby it's too hard.
Oh ok, thanks for the kind reply then =)
I was just asking this cause I saw some people saying that SOD doesn't work on the 30x, so I was wondering if it would work here :/
Main problem is oly, i think they can`t fix it at all, max amount of points you can lose/win per match is 10 and here there is no cap, also hero zerk not working, removed inmunity to debuffs, just becouse some ppl complained on the ru servers.
SOD is not working as retail, atm on x30 sod is open almost 24/7, only closed 2 times per day for 1h while is closed you can kill tiat but it`s at 3pm and 3am pretty bad time to gather a raid force.
U can count the bugs on the fingers of one hand BUT they are annoying. Most annyoing ones are:
-- the oly bug, u can win more then 10 points in one match and normaly u shouldn't. Admin tried to fix it a few times with bad results;
-- the SoD bug, which ... well i have no idea what causes this bug but it seems to be a minor one (the time sod is open is too long) and it's not fixed cause admin wants to be this way. At least that's how i understood it from shabaka's reply.
There is also the hero zerk which doesn't gives u immunity to raid curse cause admin removed it, ppl from x1 server complained about it and odly enough, it was changed for all servers. That's about it.
fishing pots , desert heat pots not working in oly
ue etc not evading dmg from some skills
mystic immunity resisting raid curse
Ok, fingers from one and a half hands :))
It's still PTS files, don't forget that :P
Any real admin reading this forum or we are talking to a wall? sry russ wall
I think there's only 1 admin here, just like on other servers. And he is russian as most of his staff.
The only ones that know GOOD english are aibo and alice and i didn't see aibo in since like forever. Alice is checking the forum daily but i don't think (s)he posts without speaking with admin first... and geting answers from him seems to take quite a while. Shabaka also reads the forum daily and posts from time to time but his english is pretty weak.
Anyway, please tell us Alice if u can, will we have a proper english announcement any time soon? The main site allready got the announcement but it's in russian. Also, please check the official information sticky, i've posted some new questions gathered from players, maybe you can get us some answers. Thnx
any possibilty that you could add also my questions from page 2? :) thanks
It is true, what x30 and x5 server harware was swiched, and we will have old x30 hardware for x5 server start?
If there's crazy lags on x30 that means they put the old x3 hardware on it and we gonna play on x30 hardware :D
This also means that we gonna have lags with 1600-1700 ppl on so... it looks kinda bad. Admin should clear this stuff up :'(
Quote from: Remember on February 10, 2010, 09:59:09 PM
Any real admin reading this forum or we are talking to a wall? sry russ wall
welcome to rpg server
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 10, 2010, 11:42:13 PM
If there's crazy lags on x30 that means they put the old x3 hardware on it and we gonna play on x30 hardware :D
This also means that we gonna have lags with 1600-1700 ppl on so... it looks kinda bad. Admin should clear this stuff up :'(
man is thats true just lol
basicly throw out ppl from 30x
They cannot afford good hardware for new 5x ? ;/ Doesn't look good. But I understand this. It's kinda new server and good hardware is rather expensive. sadly 30x is going to death. I can smell too many emo raged quits.
a lot of ppl on 30x donated money they bought hw maybe from that money and now they put it away?????
and i thought i cant be more amazed :-X
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 10, 2010, 11:42:13 PM
If there's crazy lags on x30 that means they put the old x3 hardware on it and we gonna play on x30 hardware :D
This also means that we gonna have lags with 1600-1700 ppl on so... it looks kinda bad. Admin should clear this stuff up :'(
there are 0 lag on 30x server itself, its more likely routing problems, I have with serveral other 0 delay and no lags at all so it rly cant be exchanged hardware and lags due to it xD, come up with some better conspiracy theory.
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 10, 2010, 05:27:50 PM
Ok, fingers from one and a half hands :))
It's still PTS files, don't forget that :P
y and thats why they customise some skills like hero zerk and some other things
Quote from: greennight on February 11, 2010, 12:10:02 PM
y and thats why they customise some skills like hero zerk and some other things
That's something else, those are intended changes. We were talking about bugs... although some of them are probably caused by same admin :)
Quote from: Jacky on February 11, 2010, 12:02:15 PM
there are 0 lag on 30x server itself, its more likely routing problems, I have with serveral other 0 delay and no lags at all so it rly cant be exchanged hardware and lags due to it xD, come up with some better conspiracy theory.
Didn't knew that, was waiting to try server today and see if it lags. If only some ppl have lags then it's clearly routing problems, hence, no hardware change. That's a relief
Confirmed :) No lags at all for me.
today no lags for me as well, unlike all the other days after that technical downtime
Precise donation list:
1.Can you donate for 3 d class/Sub/Nobl (in case you do are you gonna make it not available for 1 st month?)?
2.Class change 1st,2nd at GM Npc?
3.Is there gonna be shots D/C grade at GM Npc?
Might have been asked earlier, but explanation such as "same npc as on x30 but just a bit closer to x1 set up". Cose when you do log on x5 beta you can't find any of this atm, so is this final set up of GM Npc in not would be good to know it at least 1 week before start.
i already asked those, but everybody overlooked them
Can u check the official sticky? I've already posted this questions at last update. Add ONLY new questions if u have them.
sorry, but i see only questions about donation items
The questions u posted are included in the donation question, npc shop more exactly. And the quest rates question was already answered, not EXACLTY because rates are not final yet. When they will decide 100% on rates they will tell us.
Your question should have been much more clear, they can just answer you with Yes/No and we still got no clue when/how much/how long...
Mby u want me to ask about every specific item in the npc shop so we make it clear enough? I touched on the most important aspects of it. ur questions were:
1.Can you donate for 3 d class/Sub/Nobl (in case you do are you gonna make it not available for 1 st month?)?
already asked
2.Class change 1st,2nd at GM Npc?
it's a 5x, it would be retarded to have this at cat
3.Is there gonna be shots D/C grade at GM Npc?
same answer as question 2
Not that hard to think a bit before posting ur questions.
Edit: ok, sure, this might not be ur usual server and we might get to see this things at cat but i'm sure they will show us the donation list before server will go live. We will talk with administration after that happens and IF we see those things there. Right now we should touch only on the most important aspects like 3rd/sub/nobl and adena/enchants/xp-sp runes and bogs.
Why it would be retarded?You anyway can pretty much by the 2 nd class with 3 mil and shot quest of 5 min, considering what else gonna be at that NPC that is nothing else then just making ppl pay 3 mil for class change.
Because it's a low rate, and from where i'm coming from a low rate is supposed to be as close as possible to retail. That includes making ALL quests, even 1st class, AND no donation for stuff that influences gameplay. And quests do it, 1st and 2nd not to much, but 3rd sub and nabless do a LOT. Same for xp/sp runes, enchants (lol), bogs (bigger lol) and adena biggest lol of all. So that's why i asked specificly about those. When we know about them we can ask about other less important stuff from donation shop.
I want 1st/2nd in GM shop lol,and I bet 80% of the players want it too.I don't care if it's easier now and u get adena reward.... I hate those things!!!!11!!1!
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 12, 2010, 03:01:41 PM
Because it's a low rate, and from where i'm coming from a low rate is supposed to be as close as possible to retail. That includes making ALL quests, even 1st class, AND no donation for stuff that influences gameplay. And quests do it, 1st and 2nd not to much, but 3rd sub and nabless do a LOT. Same for xp/sp runes, enchants (lol), bogs (bigger lol) and adena biggest lol of all. So that's why i asked specificly about those. When we know about them we can ask about other less important stuff from donation shop.
That means no donations for nobl/sub i hope so, cose just remember what hapened on Celes cose of donations. Also Cakes x4 faster xp hm...Not affecting game?
Quote from: SplichO on February 12, 2010, 03:03:21 PM
That means no donations for nobl/sub i hope so, cose just remember what hapened on Celes cose of donations. Also Cakes x4 faster xp hm...Not affecting game?
translate into $$$ pls
Quote from: SplichO on February 12, 2010, 03:03:21 PM
That means no donations for nobl/sub i hope so, cose just remember what hapened on Celes cose of donations. Also Cakes x4 faster xp hm...Not affecting game?
I also hope for no such quest donations. And cakes, well, i think it's a pretty balanced item. First of all it's x3 faster (vita lvl 4 = 300% xp) and second of all, u can lose them to anyone. Putting them for a very high price in shop would make them very rare and actually create some nice extra pvp situations for the cakes :)
Arky i also hate making sub and nobls. Come to think of it, i also hate to grind S equip so let's put them all in shop and make a high rate. What? I can't compare the things i said to what u said? Who says so, you? Just because they are part of very early game it's STILL part of the game. As so, u NEED to do them or we might as well make a high rate.
RIM (solo) Kamaloka will be awayble?
so fullbuff from the npc till 40 (as it is on 1x) isn't retarded? i'd rather see 1st and 2nd class change for free than that buffer
and mana pots for my bro splicho
Quote from: ssj3 on February 12, 2010, 04:08:49 PM
and mana pots for my bro splicho
Love is still alive. :)
i see no info about the npc buffer, no info about free class changes from the cat, no info if the cat would have mammon functions. maybe it's because you didn"t include the questions there?
No problem, just add ur questions (that haven't been answered yet) and i will add them in sticky in the next batch of questions.
inf about server specs: coming soon.
is that "soon" tomorrow, or today or next week or when?
Yap, info abouth hardware spec. is most inportant, and we dont get an answer >:(
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 16, 2010, 08:41:39 PM
No problem, just add ur questions (that haven't been answered yet) and i will add them in sticky in the next batch of questions.
my questions are only about the 40lvl npc buffer (because it's on 1x too), 1st and 2nd occupation change for free (cat), mammon functions (cat) and detailed info about quest rates in important quests (HS, varka, 700, IT/FoG, pagan/monastery, GC 1+2, loa 2, dimensional fragments, blank scrolls)
Quote from: culinko on February 16, 2010, 09:28:01 PM
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 16, 2010, 08:41:39 PM
No problem, just add ur questions (that haven't been answered yet) and i will add them in sticky in the next batch of questions.
my questions are only about the 40lvl npc buffer (because it's on 1x too), 1st and 2nd occupation change for free (cat), mammon functions (cat) and detailed info about quest rates in important quests (HS, varka, 700, IT/FoG, pagan/monastery, GC 1+2, loa 2, dimensional fragments, blank scrolls)
i think 40lvl nc buffer is not a problem, buffs arent for free and at the beggining u wont use it anyway, later - who cares?
npc buffer my ass. would be retarded if they add it. there is a newbie buffer who gives buffs to lvl 63.
Quote from: Schizo on February 16, 2010, 09:41:03 PM
npc buffer my ass. would be retarded if they add it. there is a newbie buffer who gives buffs to lvl 63.
thats why i say its useless, u got newbie buffs to 62lvl for free, no1 will buy buffs @ npc, at least at the beggining..
i only want info, if it will be there or not
it would be. And its not makes any problems at server starts, 20k for buffs its to bug price @ server start, and later its better for newcomers ir someone sponsors them. ;)
info about hardware:
is the game and sql servers are 1 machine or separated ones?
if separated, what are the specs of sql server?
what storage is in place?
what type of connection is between storage and server(s)?
how large is the bandwith?
info about software:
will there be any custom changes to raids, skills, ... like on x30? (hero zerk,potions in oly,...)
any scheduled maintenance is planned for database coalescing? (aka. 1 time per week for 1hour downtime)
info about staff:
is there planned any recruitation of GM's? (aka bot hunters, not forum moderators)
I'm going to add new questions to the sticky the day after tomorrow so we have time to gather and choose the best questions. Before posting ur questions, be sure to read the sticky for the questions and more specially, the answers allready given.
Quote from: BadDude on February 16, 2010, 09:53:42 PM
Quote from: Schizo on February 16, 2010, 09:41:03 PM
npc buffer my ass. would be retarded if they add it. there is a newbie buffer who gives buffs to lvl 63.
thats why i say its useless, u got newbie buffs to 62lvl for free, no1 will buy buffs @ npc, at least at the beggining..
i wfill! focus/dw hax!
Two questions:
1. You will fix the vitality system? (its not retail like, its very far away from retail).
2. What will be the party exp?
What exactly is wrong with the vitality system? I don't get it. Does it end too fast? Does it take too long to recharge back?
They prolly mean it ends fater cause vitality is calculated per xp points, so since you have rates x5 here it ends x5 faster.
But that should be a problem since while ending x5 faster it gives the same effect xp wise as it would on rates x1.
Well, yeah, you get the same bonus as on an x1 server cause it ends faster (cause of more xp per mob) but dude, isn't it enough that the server is x5? You also need x5 more vitality points? That would be overkill.
Vit bonus should stay x1 .... It would be just stupid to put it x5 .... would that mean you have bonus to like lvl 50 ? xD
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 18, 2010, 02:54:39 PM
What exactly is wrong with the vitality system? I don't get it. Does it end too fast? Does it take too long to recharge back?
Here you got: http://lineage2.rochand.com/Knowledge/vitality.php
Example:
avarage exp time:
RPG: Retail:
Vitality lvl 4 10 min 10-15 min
Vitality lvl 3 10 min 20-25 min
Vitality lvl 2 15 min ~ 1 hour
Vitality lvl 1 don't know ~ 5 min
refuel time being offline:
RPG: Retail:
Vitality lvl 4 ~ 1 day 7,5 hours
Vitality lvl 3 ~ 1 day 15 hours
Vitality lvl 2 don't know 53,33 hours
Vitality lvl 1 don't know 6,5 hours
Finaly:
Retail like you can exp ~ 1 hour 45 minutes on vitality and to refuel it back to full you will need 83 hours (4,5 days)
RPG - you can exp on vitality ~40 minutes? and to refuel it you will need....? (looks like much longer then 4,5 days)
IMO vitality system like this is a big lol, vitality is for players that cant/want play 24/24h but still want to play (for example 1 hour/day, so they can use the vitality) but play 40 minutes and then wait a week to refuel it isn't inviting ;)
This are vitality stats from Gracia Epilogue
I've been playing on retail from Gracia part 1 till epilogue and everything is fine here. Impoved vitality is from epologue.
No problem to repport a bug but please, first make sure it is one. Read the two posts above mine + it's normal vitality ends faster on the 5x (if u tested there) then on retail, u get 5x more xp per mob. Vitality doesn't last on fixed amount of time, u have some vitality points for every level. The more xp u earn, the more vitality points u consume --> vitality level goes down faster. And here u get a LOT more xp then on retail. Simple logic my dear friend :)
If u really want to insist with this "bug" go test it on x1 rpg server then come back. Ofc, with vitality info from gracia 1/2/final, not epilogue, it's been improved there.
Quote from: Szaket on February 18, 2010, 02:51:57 PM
Two questions:
1. You will fix the vitality system? (its not retail like, its very far away from retail).
2. What will be the party exp?
1. u know shit about how it works on retail
2. already 200 frustrated randoms asked that question, just w8 for fakkin answer instead of spammin
Quote from: Szaket on February 18, 2010, 03:26:19 PM
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 18, 2010, 02:54:39 PM
What exactly is wrong with the vitality system? I don't get it. Does it end too fast? Does it take too long to recharge back?
Here you got: http://lineage2.rochand.com/Knowledge/vitality.php
Example:
avarage exp time:
RPG: Retail:
Vitality lvl 4 10 min 10-15 min
Vitality lvl 3 10 min 20-25 min
Vitality lvl 2 15 min ~ 1 hour
Vitality lvl 1 don't know ~ 5 min
refuel time being offline:
RPG: Retail:
Vitality lvl 4 ~ 1 day 7,5 hours
Vitality lvl 3 ~ 1 day 15 hours
Vitality lvl 2 don't know 53,33 hours
Vitality lvl 1 don't know 6,5 hours
Finaly:
Retail like you can exp ~ 1 hour 45 minutes on vitality and to refuel it back to full you will need 83 hours (4,5 days)
RPG - you can exp on vitality ~40 minutes? and to refuel it you will need....? (looks like much longer then 4,5 days)
IMO vitality system like this is a big lol, vitality is for players that cant/want play 24/24h but still want to play (for example 1 hour/day, so they can use the vitality) but play 40 minutes and then wait a week to refuel it isn't inviting ;)
You forgot, that here you get much MORE exp, couse its x30 rates! And vit is not on farming time (swings on mob) but it drains by geting "x" amount of exp and "x" amount of killed mobs. Go to x1 rates, x5 rates, and test it, russia x1 you cal farm like 30mins, x5rates like 15mins and etc.. or you want admins to add vit system rate x30 to?
Quote from: Malicious on February 18, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
You forgot, that here you get much MORE exp, couse its x30 rates! And vit is not on farming time (swings on mob) but it drains by geting "x" amount of exp and "x" amount of killed mobs. Go to x1 rates, x5 rates, and test it, russia x1 you cal farm like 30mins, x5rates like 15mins and etc.. or you want admins to add vit system rate x30 to?
Its a x5 server forum so we speak here about x5 server (i checked it too on x5 server) and the refuel time shoul be on all serv's the same
Quote from: Szaket on February 18, 2010, 05:58:42 PM
Its a x5 server forum so we speak here about x5 server (i checked it too on x5 server) and the refuel time shoul be on all serv's the same
this is a useless post.since most will never spend that much time offline anyway.atm who cares about replenishing vitality when u can bot all day'n'night...really.we need anti-bot system (at least to make less ppl bot) then fixing an already working well vitality system.
Wtb Brain for you guys. Vita is working good ! If you are smarter than NCsoft than plizz leave and go play tibia. Its annoying. How many times we got to tell you that is working good ? jesus christ.
Gonna add a few more questions to the sticky tonight, so if u have something important to ask (that hasn't been asked already) please do so. Should be the last ones 'till start.
Good Questions Communism ! Hope they are going to be answered soon ;)
when will be english language on site? I cant unerstand this russian letters :D
You have a very basic english site right here https://www.rpg-club.org/en
The new one is still in development, no ETA for now.
what happened to varonrojo
is my question )
Quote from: aYotech on February 23, 2010, 10:52:33 PM
what happened to varonrojo
is my question )
he got BANananed
Becouse he was the only one who worked with community... And was trying to tell the truth. COMMUNISM FTW
What ever the reason, i'm sure it was a good one.
well, for sure they must had some reason
Good to know that you were not banned. What was the reason for removing you from staff ?
Becouse You were talking with community ? I have no words..
btw. what ?! Maxim can speak in english ? So why the hell he can't tell us what we are asking for ?!
You can see only... Soon, we are working on it, I can't tell, later etc..
Quote from: reni on February 24, 2010, 02:03:38 AM
Becouse You were talking with community ? I have no words..
btw. what ?! Maxim can speak in english ? So why the hell he can't tell us what we are asking for ?!
You can see only... Soon, we are working on it, I can't tell, later etc..
i guess its more bcuz he was talking too much, not bcuz he was talking at all :)
Quote from: VaronRojo on February 24, 2010, 01:48:04 AM
Don't be so lamer, kiss admins ass constantly isn't good for the health, and for your libs
I only was trying to take care about the community, and share some infos,...
So you're saying they removed u just for the lulz of it? I find that hard to believe.
why gm removed 1st and 2nd class from npc for free ? sh1t :'(
Becouse its not a high rate. Its 5x for sake. Quest have been cuted in half so its not pain in the ass any more
Hey broham, why do people open private servers? oh shi to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Quote from: Rokub on February 24, 2010, 03:04:46 AM
Hey broham, why do people open private servers? oh shi to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Yea, and you can earn money and have a happy community at the same time
Quote from: VaronRojo on February 24, 2010, 03:05:42 AM
Quote from: Rokub on February 24, 2010, 03:04:46 AM
Hey broham, why do people open private servers? oh shi to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Yea, and you can earn money and have a happy community at the same time
look at azure's donation bar.
Without happy community i doubt that you will earn any $$. Happy community -> more donations.
Quote from: reni on February 24, 2010, 03:09:35 AM
Without happy community i doubt that you will earn any $$. Happy community -> more donations.
A)Best files of the market > Unhappy people with admins = 2.000+ population = Money
B)Normal files HB, C5 > Unhappy people with admins = 300 population = FAIL.
With System A , you dont have to take care about nothing, files do everything
Quote from: Rokub on February 24, 2010, 03:07:22 AM
Quote from: VaronRojo on February 24, 2010, 03:05:42 AM
Quote from: Rokub on February 24, 2010, 03:04:46 AM
Hey broham, why do people open private servers? oh shi to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Yea, and you can earn money and have a happy community at the same time
look at azure's donation bar.
while c5 was "fresh" it was always filled up before the end of the month
when c3 was fresh it was full to
Quote from: VaronRojo on February 24, 2010, 03:12:53 AM
Quote from: reni on February 24, 2010, 03:09:35 AM
Without happy community i doubt that you will earn any $$. Happy community -> more donations.
A)Best files of the market > Unhappy people with admins = 2.000+ population = Money
B)Normal files HB, C5 > Unhappy people with admins = 300 population = FAIL.
With System A , you dont have to take care about nothing, files dot everything
so u suggest administration dont give a fuck since they got files? :)
Quote from: miou on February 24, 2010, 10:55:30 AM
so u suggest administration dont give a fuck since they got files? :)
not exactly. it means that although the community might not be happy with administration(mostly because of slow responses on some player related issues) people will still play/donate on the server because it's a high quality one. unlike a server with shitty files and/or major bugs which constantly needs "adjusting",but with admins which are constantly reassuring that everything will work eventually :)
All topic's about VaronRojo has been deleted. Sadly.
Quote from: reni on February 25, 2010, 12:08:08 AM
All topic's about VaronRojo has been deleted. Sadly.
My post on topic for administration..... "Is VaronRojo still forum moderator? If not, why?"
Cuz he posted the donation list/made a thread talking about removing cakes/runes ig, so he lost his mod status.
I guess he was making stuff not according to his mod status so he lost it.
Quote from: Pel8 on February 25, 2010, 12:27:31 PM
Cuz he posted the donation list/made a thread talking about removing cakes/runes ig, so he lost his mod status.
I guess he was making stuff not according to his mod status so he lost it.
Idiot Spotted.
You're angy with him because he close your favorit post "ETC is Over" but VaronRojo did good his work, was communicativ, he has self iniciative and also was active, he only was trying to help the community and he did it better than nothing else in 12h.
So please, STFU
Quote from: xtM on February 25, 2010, 02:23:16 PM
Quote from: Pel8 on February 25, 2010, 12:27:31 PM
Cuz he posted the donation list/made a thread talking about removing cakes/runes ig, so he lost his mod status.
I guess he was making stuff not according to his mod status so he lost it.
Idiot Spotted.
You're angy with him because he close your favorit post "ETC is Over" but VaronRojo did good his work, was communicativ, he has self iniciative and also was active, he only was trying to help the community and he did it better than nothing else in 12h.
So please, STFU
actually i he wrote the truth....
Yea, I think too, that VaronRojo was doing his work good, :)
And he was stopping the "Forum trolling" closing "Troll posts", hope see you soon
Quote from: xtM on February 25, 2010, 02:23:16 PM
Idiot Spotted.
You're angy with him because he close your favorit post "ETC is Over" but VaronRojo did good his work, was communicativ, he has self iniciative and also was active, he only was trying to help the community and he did it better than nothing else in 12h.
So please, STFU
I rlly care about the ETC topic lol, i`m not saying he was a bad mod/admin, he did a good job beside i don`t lke closing/removing topics he did try to help this comunity.
I said before the reason why he lost the mod status, he was only a mod and he wanted more responsability and administration didn`t like that.
He wanted more responsability? Maybe. But this is wath RPG needs, a man like VaronRojo. Active, with nice suggestions, and he keep forum controled, seeking for forum trolls, not this forum is again the Wild west
Quote from: Pel8 on February 25, 2010, 02:31:09 PM
I said before the reason why he lost the mod status, he was only a mod and he wanted more responsability and administration didn`t like that.
/True story
Quote from: VaronRojo on February 25, 2010, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: Pel8 on February 25, 2010, 02:31:09 PM
I said before the reason why he lost the mod status, he was only a mod and he wanted more responsability and administration didn`t like that.
/True story
Any chances of you coming back? You did much at those 2 days.
This is Alice's decision.
I don't understand why you don't are already back GM, all the community seems to like you, and everybody is saying that you did your work good, so I hope they think about your , and set you back in the team.
yea yea that was great, everything's changed while the guy was a mod.
yea. right.
Quote from: Aibo on February 25, 2010, 04:54:47 PM
yea yea that was great, everything's changed while the guy was a mod.
yea. right.
Jelous spotted
and still noone told me, why i should be jealous.
VaronRojo failed for 1 reason - haven't found the balance between players and administration. you can't just jump in and do what you think is right, believe me. (and i believe i've explained the "uneasy" situation to him when he was assigned as a mod)
yea, people like you will jump ot of their pants screaming "yay he cares for us, woot", but that's not the only thing GM/moderator should care about, and that alone doesn't change anything. that'll be just a false hope.
and even if someone will change something, 90% of people won't even remember it in a month or so. :D
and yea, he will be back if he wishes so ;)
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Quote from: Aibo on February 25, 2010, 05:29:40 PM
and still noone told me, why i should be jealous.
VaronRojo failed for 1 reason - haven't found the balance between players and administration. you can't just jump in and do what you think is right, believe me.
What he thought was "right" was a shared ideal within the community without breaking any rules as far as the anal Administration is concerned. If this is not finding a proper balance between players and administration then I do not know what is.
This is not VaronRojo making a mistake, this is the Administration in a whole making a mistake. It's not really anything new. Why were you dismissed, Aibo? Pretty shitty reasons, if I recall correctly. The Administration team wanted you to take every order without hesitation, and pretty much just be their bitch. Not a job anyone wants to really be. The Administration frowns upon initiative which is exactly why they...
1.) Fail at hiring moderators who do their job properly.
2.) Fail at bothunting because they don't hire anyone to bothunt because that'd be counter-productive with the way they do things around here.
3.) Fail at enforcement themselves unless you make a direct attack against them.
Because these things do not fall under the direct interest of the Administration itself. There is no "balance" between community and Administration. It's all about the money, end of. You do something they didn't tell you to do, regardless of how they liked it or not, you will be removed in fear of you not being some kind of robot slave they hoped for you to be.
Easily, the worst bunch of Administrators I've seen in my entire life of online gaming. Don't you worry, I'm sure I'll be banned for this post. The truth hurts them more than anything. Not that I care, these boards have nothing going for them.
Quote from: Szaket on February 18, 2010, 03:26:19 PM
Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 18, 2010, 02:54:39 PM
What exactly is wrong with the vitality system? I don't get it. Does it end too fast? Does it take too long to recharge back?
Here you got: http://lineage2.rochand.com/Knowledge/vitality.php
Example:
avarage exp time:
RPG: Retail:
Vitality lvl 4 10 min 10-15 min
Vitality lvl 3 10 min 20-25 min
Vitality lvl 2 15 min ~ 1 hour
Vitality lvl 1 don't know ~ 5 min
refuel time being offline:
RPG: Retail:
Vitality lvl 4 ~ 1 day 7,5 hours
Vitality lvl 3 ~ 1 day 15 hours
Vitality lvl 2 don't know 53,33 hours
Vitality lvl 1 don't know 6,5 hours
Finaly:
Retail like you can exp ~ 1 hour 45 minutes on vitality and to refuel it back to full you will need 83 hours (4,5 days)
RPG - you can exp on vitality ~40 minutes? and to refuel it you will need....? (looks like much longer then 4,5 days)
IMO vitality system like this is a big lol, vitality is for players that cant/want play 24/24h but still want to play (for example 1 hour/day, so they can use the vitality) but play 40 minutes and then wait a week to refuel it isn't inviting ;)
Vitality Consumption
Vitality Points Consumed = ( (Exp) / (Level^2)*100 ) / 9
Exp = Base exp gained from mob Level = Mob level
Example
Example 1 1xHP Mob Bone Grinder 12,903xp Level 70 ( (12,903) / (70^2)*100 ) / 9 Vit Consumed = 29 points.
Example 2 5xHP Mob Karik 32,922xp Level 70 ( (32,922) / (70^2)*100 ) / 9 Vit Consumed = 75 points.
This means even if you only gain 1 exp point your vitality 'points' will still change. If you kill a gremlin at level 80 and gain 1 exp point you will lose the same number of vitality points as you would if you were only level 1.
In the example, the Karik has approx. 5x the HP as the Bone Grinder and removes 2.5x the vitality and only gives 2.5x the experience. With this said, unless you're in a full group for the XP bonus, don't hunt anything with any multiplier - go for the 1x mobs if you're specifically looking to make good use of your vitality.Vitality Points
Level 0 - 1 contains 240 points. Those 240 points take 1 hour of being logged out to regain. Level 1 - 2 contains 1,560 points. Those 1,560 points take 6hr30m of being logged out to regain. Level 2 - 3 contains 12,800 points. Those 12,800 points take 53hr20m of being logged out to regain. Level 3 - 4 contains 3,600 points. Those 1,560 points take 15 hours of being logged out to regain. Level 4 - Max contains 1,800 points. Those 1,800 points take 7hr30m of being logged out to regain
Max vitality points = 20,000 taking a total 83hr 20m to regain (approx. 3.5 days from 0 - 20,000).
You get 1 point regained for every minute in a peace zone.
You get 4 points regained every minute when logged out.
From lvl 76+ the vitality consumption rate is 1.5x normal. From 79 its 2x normal.
Vitality herbs reverse the process of killing mobs. No additional bonus.
Parties increase your vitality drop too but this hasn't been worked out.
Raids generally return 20-30 points, not calculated exactly yet.
Additional exceptions which aren't listed apply.
http://www.lineagejunkies.com/wiki/Vitality#Earn_Vitality (http://www.lineagejunkies.com/wiki/Vitality#Earn_Vitality)
Quote from: Crysillion on February 25, 2010, 06:17:25 PMThis is not VaronRojo making a mistake, this is the Administration in a whole making a mistake. It's not really anything new. Why were you dismissed, Aibo? Pretty shitty reasons, if I recall correctly. The Administration team wanted you to take every order without hesitation, and pretty much just be their bitch. Not a job anyone wants to really be. The Administration frowns upon initiative which is exactly why they...
and i didn't say he made a mistake, i said he failed. even though he was doing the right thing, imo. and honestly it was a surprise to me that he was removed so fast.
as for shitty ways, i wouldn't say that it's true for the everyone in the administration, but pretty much it is, or turns out in the end.
like kicking out the very few GMs/moderators they have is not a very smart move. especially when they haven't done anything to deserve that. and especially the day after moderator is even hired.
but administration runs the server (and community cannot change that), that's why balance is needed. cause i doubt that "unity" of community and administration is ever possible here, though it would be ideal.
Yea! all the community hope, that varonrojo will come back soon, he was doing all fine
Quote from: Aibo on February 25, 2010, 06:32:37 PM
Quote from: Crysillion on February 25, 2010, 06:17:25 PMThis is not VaronRojo making a mistake, this is the Administration in a whole making a mistake. It's not really anything new. Why were you dismissed, Aibo? Pretty shitty reasons, if I recall correctly. The Administration team wanted you to take every order without hesitation, and pretty much just be their bitch. Not a job anyone wants to really be. The Administration frowns upon initiative which is exactly why they...
and i didn't say he made a mistake, i said he failed. even though he was doing the right thing, imo. and honestly it was a surprise to me that he was removed so fast.
as for shitty ways, i wouldn't say that it's true for the everyone in the administration, but pretty much it is, or turns out in the end.
like kicking out the very few GMs/moderators they have is not a very smart move. especially when they haven't done anything to deserve that. and especially the day after moderator is even hired.
but administration runs the server (and community cannot change that), that's why balance is needed. cause i doubt that "unity" of community and administration is ever possible here, though it would be ideal.
first of all if u become a lil part of staff u shouldnt do/write anything what would have any influence on admins/server, u should stay non-sided. After i saw the topic about the cakes i was pretty sure varonjo will lose his mod status pretty quick - its not that admins r so mean here, its like that everywhere, if u do something ur boss doesnt like - u will be warned or kicked. maybe the punishment was too hard but its not to us to decide about that.
about the unity of community and admins - it exists only on servers with very small community
and my addon:
i much more appreciate if they write "we cant fix sod atm" than when other server owners lie to ppl "it will be working soon", or the more "on time" example: we r under DDOS attack.
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