rollback or no ??

Started by Flavi, November 03, 2009, 08:58:37 PM

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Flavi

I have question and u make rollbac or no ??:) idk play or maybe w8 now ??

killer625

u can play. there wont be rollback. justice will be served, ppl who were exploiting server bug ( killing raid bosses ) will be perma banned. thats all.

Lloth

Quote from: killer625 on November 03, 2009, 11:03:41 PM
u can play. there wont be rollback. justice will be served, ppl who were exploiting server bug ( killing raid bosses ) will be perma banned. thats all.

This is irony.. I hope:P

I dont want bans for enemys... We love pvp! just rollback and BIG WARNING for that ppl what used exploits for them.. :p

Raikiri

Quote from: killer625 on November 03, 2009, 11:03:41 PM
u can play. there wont be rollback. justice will be served, ppl who were exploiting server bug ( killing raid bosses ) will be perma banned. thats all.

Then half of players will be banned, and server will die. Rollback is a bad choice too, cause if they do it, they will punish all ppl too, who dont made anything. GMs fucked up smth, then they must delete all boss drop/new noblesse status, thats all.

Bubbleh

because not keeping your word will gain you respect. rait?

Lloth

Quote from: Raikiri on November 04, 2009, 01:44:42 AM
Quote from: killer625 on November 03, 2009, 11:03:41 PM
u can play. there wont be rollback. justice will be served, ppl who were exploiting server bug ( killing raid bosses ) will be perma banned. thats all.

Then half of players will be banned, and server will die. Rollback is a bad choice too, cause if they do it, they will punish all ppl too, who dont made anything. GMs fucked up smth, then they must delete all boss drop/new noblesse status, thats all.

Rollback is best reason for this situation..

haart

more then 2200 players were online same time in last 24 hours
if 100-200 exploited bug they should pay .. not all community

PwnInYourFace

they knew that punishment is ban and they did it anyway?  -> ban cry more

bjorn

Quote from: PwnInYourFace on November 04, 2009, 03:07:16 AM
they knew that punishment is ban and they did it anyway?  -> ban cry more

exactly, they ignored the warning. even when they were told, they shouldnt kill it cause of announcement, they just wrote: stfu or fu. they deserve a punishment, if they dont care about stuff like that.

Shunt

Sure there's logs of what RB were killed.

1)Find logs of who killed RB, perma ban.
2)Find drops of RB, find distribution, refund/delete any transactions from these items/trades.

Yes they are hard steps but rollback or other solutions will not be good enough.
(Talking about Seed of Destruction)
Quote from: Keto on October 28, 2009, 12:05:28 AM
You all think Admins are so stupid to close it at this moment ? if they DO iam sure they wil loose alot of players and they know it.

Lloth

Quote from: Shunt on November 04, 2009, 03:14:56 AM
Sure there's logs of what RB were killed.

1)Find logs of who killed RB, perma ban.
2)Find drops of RB, find distribution, refund/delete any transactions from these items/trades.

Yes they are hard steps but rollback or other solutions will not be good enough.

That's why I wrote about rollback.. Its easyer and good for allppl... No1 will die for one day

Spinxas

Its GMs fault, everything was working fine till somehow baium bugged (If you dont touch anything it wont bug right? But if you touch something it will bug), so they tryed to fix Baium, but sadly all raids started to act same... Rollback would be easyest thing to do, but over 2k people would be angry, becouse its not 2h or 1h rollback, its over 24h rollback... Banning people would make server dead too, we all know that clans abused this bug for some time, like NF, RW, Russians, UniQueS, DH and many others, if you ban them, well GL @ game... Randoms vs ETC, would love to see that, but nah i think it would be ETC vs ETC

mindiuse

Just make some advertisement fix the bugs and wipe it  :-*

DreadFull

Wipe. This is my opinion. It would be better

Lionna

Who would start again on a wiped Server? Best example is L2Reloaded. They had 3-4k Player (with dual boxes) and later the population went down to 2k Player. Some month later they wiped the fucking Server and opened again as L2Kastien and they have barely 800 Player online (with Boxes).

All the failures cry for Server-Wipe, because they couldn't do a shit. Imagine what happens after a Wipe, you gonna suck again like before.

NullPoint

If server will be wipped, im not gonna start agian for sure

Spinxas

Quote from: NullPoint on November 04, 2009, 10:25:14 AM
If server will be wipped, im not gonna start agian for sure
Just who cares about you? :P Little advertesment and you'll be changed for about 50 people.

Flavi

y if wipe bb too better Rollback

mindiuse

Quote from: Lionna on November 04, 2009, 10:21:20 AM
Who would start again on a wiped Server? Best example is L2Reloaded. They had 3-4k Player (with dual boxes) and later the population went down to 2k Player. Some month later they wiped the fucking Server and opened again as L2Kastien and they have barely 800 Player online (with Boxes).

All the failures cry for Server-Wipe, because they couldn't do a shit. Imagine what happens after a Wipe, you gonna suck again like before.
don't worry there are so many new comers and it takes 5h to lvl up with prof :) btw there where so mani bugs/botters that it wouldin't change anything :) btw who would leave after wipe gracia final 30x? :D

rambb

just permaban the exploiter and bb, it was sufficiently advertised that rb COULDNT BE KILLED, they do it at their own risk, gl and hf with rerolling if u wanna keep playing. if u dont want to keep playing gl and hf anyway somewhere else.

the problem of this server is not the quit of a hundred of ppl, since this is THE ONLY GRACIA FINAL L2OFF server around, if u put it on the occidental top sites and not only in russians ones u're going to have so many ppl in few weeks that you'll need to upgrade hardware for sure....

the problem of this server is ghosts gm except for spawned weapons, they arent ghost at all for that, and the total absence of a bot protection. With a proper bot protection, gm, and more advertising this server hasnt to fear at all an exodus coz some exploiters get banned

NullPoint

Quote from: Spinxas on November 04, 2009, 11:06:43 AM
Quote from: NullPoint on November 04, 2009, 10:25:14 AM
If server will be wipped, im not gonna start agian for sure
Just who cares about you? :P Little advertesment and you'll be changed for about 50 people.
i knew some faggot gonna quote that

Lionna

Quote from: MinDiuSe on November 04, 2009, 11:07:44 AM
don't worry there are so many new comers and it takes 5h to lvl up with prof :) btw there where so mani bugs/botters that it wouldin't change anything :) btw who would leave after wipe gracia final 30x? :D

Gratz for reading only the half post. No1 would fucking start on a wiped Server again, because then the next bug appears and then they wipe again the server? Or they run out of money, wipe the server and make again money? Serious only dumb Kids and dumb Clans would start again.

You think a wipe would fix the Botproblem? lmao

haart

wipe is not a bad idea but is not the best idea yet.

mindiuse

Quote from: Lionna on November 04, 2009, 01:25:30 PM
Quote from: MinDiuSe on November 04, 2009, 11:07:44 AM
don't worry there are so many new comers and it takes 5h to lvl up with prof :) btw there where so mani bugs/botters that it wouldin't change anything :) btw who would leave after wipe gracia final 30x? :D

Gratz for reading only the half post. No1 would fucking start on a wiped Server again, because then the next bug appears and then they wipe again the server? Or they run out of money, wipe the server and make again money? Serious only dumb Kids and dumb Clans would start again.

You think a wipe would fix the Botproblem? lmao
lol? wipe it's not 4 the bugs itself it's for comercial :) all good wiped servers get a lot of players :)

ptsd

why rollback? just check logs a delete items dropped from bugged raids