Returning from C4. Need info.

[Lusty]

yes dont forget your pet (wolf) it is very useful, and a lot of partys ask for wolf. much more easy to do a RB with one party+wolfs. they do a lot of damage with good equip.

if you have time, raise a PP as other ppl say, and you can go party with the PP in HB and. you buff ( usualy they only need 1 buff from you, counter critical that is) and sit+get stones=profit.

meantime you xp with your main

[Wilk]

I had dark in weapon, because of SK skills for pvp/oly, but this is probably worst atri for HB, because many mobs there use dark atri attacks and are dark resisted too
Holy should be best atri for hb farm

Wolf is very usefull for random parties and laba, especially at the beginning, but is totally useless on HB / Tiat / other end game stuff (IMHO)

[Lusty]

yeah, was not like the divine/dark stones the most expensive ones ? and the fire ones cheapest

[qqqq]

yeah, was not like the divine/dark stones the most expensive ones ? and the fire ones cheapest

The fire/water are the only stones, which will be sold before HB will be opened. (Maybe also some wind/earth, but I doubt that people will sell them to randoms).

After HB is opened, dark/divine are the cheapest.

[Lusty]

i remeber about the wind ones .pure gold . chimera drop them 1st ?  also is the quest in aden which can give you some attribute stones,untreadable,but easy to get. a 10 min quest or so . i think 3 stones, and if you are lucky, can get 90 attri

[miou]

I had dark in weapon, because of SK skills for pvp/oly, but this is probably worst atri for HB, because many mobs there use dark atri attacks and are dark resisted too
Holy should be best atri for hb farm

Wolf is very usefull for random parties and laba, especially at the beginning, but is totally useless on HB / Tiat / other end game stuff (IMHO)

i had on my HK sawsword 150dark focus and 150holy focus, both did same dmg on juniors

i remeber about the wind ones .pure gold . chimera drop them 1st ?  also is the quest in aden which can give you some attribute stones,untreadable,but easy to get. a 10 min quest or so . i think 3 stones, and if you are lucky, can get 90 attri

quest in aden/rune grocery which u can take on level 75 gives you 2 stones, and if you are lucky you get 25 attri
wind stones can be also farmed on IoP, from dragons deep inside island

[Geo96]

I thank everyone (except Dreamers and chester7lp) for helping me. At first I thought that I would get flammed. I am really thankfull for all of your tips/knowledge etc.


I have another question that I have googled but didn't find any answers.
Since C4 has anything changed regarding how you acquire S grade armors and items?
All I know are Varka/Ketra/FoG and IT/4Sepulchers quests.


P.S.: Nice sig you got there miou.

[kagome]

I thank everyone (except Dreamers and chester7lp) for helping me. At first I thought that I would get flammed. I am really thankfull for all of your tips/knowledge etc.


I have another question that I have googled but didn't find any answers.
Since C4 has anything changed regarding how you acquire S grade armors and items?
All I know are Varka/Ketra/FoG and IT/4Sepulchers quests.


P.S.: Nice sig you got there miou.

ketra /varka still for s armor recs
it/fog for s weapon recs
also laba 78/80 drops s gr
beside that only place u can get s gr armor rec drops is tiat instance if u get lucky but u need 36+ chars to enter there
so pretty much it's still the same ever since c4
and s80 armor/weapon rec farmed in hb

[QQ]

if you play some dagger class learn to active CC by reflect
if you hit your target with Normal attack crit 700dmg+ and your target have atleast 20% reflect and your counter crit will active ,
you will see like 90% of ppls using reflect

so. to do 700dmg+.. use Focus death/power and go behind your target .. (my opinion you dont need to use dyes so you dont - str or  -con)

(its  just for mass pvps and not at 1v1 cuz at face to face you will do low dmg.. and with focus power/death even less)
most daggers dont know that if you keep focus power/death in face-to-face  you will do kinda low dmg , its better than removing focus power/death than keep it on if you decide to hit face to face

(CC=Counter Critical= it actives for 8sec and increase dmg 100%.. and also this buff gives 30% reduce crit(dont need to active to have the reduce crit, you always have it if the buff is on).. pp can learn this at 83..you need book from oly)

IT can also active when fighter classes hit you, but its cool also to active it alone with reflect style
(if mages hits you, in 2years your cc will active)

[Geo96]

Is it possible to aoe with two people( Duelist/Duelist, GK/GK or Duelist/GK.) and boxed buffers(WC, BD)?

[mrPANIC]

Yes its possible and going nice but u need EE or SE to recharg...

[PublicEnemy]

I played on rpg x15 w/o cp. Class: adventurer.
I exp 78-83 in fog making trains. i used saint spear +150 + set draco.   Box: wc 79 + bd 74
83-85 try find party for hb.
Counter Critical is great.. but pp 83 + nobles + 26k fame + 52k tokens... 

[Lusty]

adv saint spear ? dafuq?

[Geo96]

I meant with aoe skills. All I know is that till you get attri on your weapon you should keep your aoe skills at lvl 1, cause the extra mp consumption isnt worth the minimum extra dmg. After you get attri you should learn all levels and enchant them.

[yoker]

adv saint spear ? dafuq?

read again his post. He was making trainz in FoG. Best way to lvl up next to HB in GF.

[Geo96]

Pole aoe:
I have heard that without pole masteries you are nerfed regarding how many targets you can hit at once. Warlords, destros, dwarves hit the most. Gladis hit a couple less with mastery lvl 8. And everybody else hit the lowest amount. Does this happen in GFinal?

GK/Duelist aoe:
Keep aoe storm and buster at lvl1 for less mp consumption cause the difference in dmg isnt worth it. Once you get attri on weapon, learn all levels of skills and enchant to your attri.

[50c]

Will I ever be able to touch Hellbound without a full party?

BD, for advices PM RazieIII

[Lusty]

adv saint spear ? dafuq?

read again his post. He was making trainz in FoG. Best way to lvl up next to HB in GF.

yeah,but but but what acu have a dagga with pole Oo ?

in the same way of things, can an ee aoe with pole,or whatever other class non skilled in pole...

[PublicEnemy]

yeah,but but but what acu have a dagga with pole Oo ?
in the same way of things, can an ee aoe with pole,or whatever other class non skilled in pole...

lol, dagger isn't bad with pole, atribute do all. Adventurer 79+ (+5 str -5 con) + wc 79 + bd 74 ( for vampiric ). Subclass titan, bd ( for haste + celestial subskill ) with that can train 12+ moobs. I did it in rpg x15, with 1h vitality 79 0% - 79 40%.

[miou]

gladi 150 +4 s duals + wc/bd and i did much more % in bug room in IT ;p

[Geo96]

Seed of Destruction - Another instance with raid boss Tiat in the end. He drops Icarus and Vesper weps but u need mucho ppl for that so forget about it. BUT... When Tiat die 10 times, SOD is opened for everyone. It becomes smth like dungeon where u can farm ECS (from ecs u can craft atribute crystals). U should make some alt char just for sod farm cuz usualy its locked and u will be pked all the time. I always farmed it at very early morning when all normal and inteligent people sleep. Its very good way to make adena.

With what setup did you farm ECS early in the morning?

[Lusty]

setup ??  you don't farm ecs with that agathion ?

[Geo96]

setup ??  you don't farm ecs with that agathion ?

He says that he went there with an alt-char.
I just find it hard to believe that it is soloable to farm ECS(I haven't been there but I think that it is common sense).
And I am asking him with what char did he go there and with what boxed buffers.

[Lusty]

y alt char has to have min lvl to enter gracia (74-75 ??)  and you port inside and you dont fight nobody, just gather those craps ecs .or you get pked. most of the time . or you sit in a room and spam / target blabla = profit


how many ecs needed to craft 1 cry ?

[Wilk]

In SOD you won't find any mobs (when it is open), just ECS and A LOT of pvp / PK
SOD is the most cool place in gracia final imo, you can go there with your main + as much boxes as you can and fight + collect ECS,  or you can be pain in the ass and go with low lvl char just to collect ECS  and piss off everybody around without even flagging yourself


20 ecs = 1 cry