gm shop

[Rager]

If removing forever adena is not an option, at least remove any gameplay influencing stuff for the first month, so everyone has an equal start.

believe me that its way worse that way, ppl dont want to start a low rate and after 1 month get a surprise like that.
Donations Should start from the same day or shouldnt start at all.

Its the same like saying after 1 month "Server will be x200 rate" or "Custom full buff npc in giran" ppl would just dont like it and they have the right to know what will happen later.

looks like you have completly no idea what are we talking about OR youre just one of those that want to take advantage over others via DONATIONS and thats why you are saying: DONATIONS FROM START!! Me want spend 400$ and have first nobl/hero and then say "GF noobs i owned you all" and then "you are no competition to me! you suck, bye"

Lol, i personally never donated. And i dont see how donations affects in endgame. I pwned in many donation servers without even buying buff from buffer npc 

Implementing donations after 1 month will just be a "kick in the nuts" for many players.

[Mouarf]

If removing forever adena is not an option, at least remove any gameplay influencing stuff for the first month, so everyone has an equal start.

believe me that its way worse that way, ppl dont want to start a low rate and after 1 month get a surprise like that.
Donations Should start from the same day or shouldnt start at all.

Its the same like saying after 1 month "Server will be x200 rate" or "Custom full buff npc in giran" ppl would just dont like it and they have the right to know what will happen later.

looks like you have completly no idea what are we talking about OR youre just one of those that want to take advantage over others via DONATIONS and thats why you are saying: DONATIONS FROM START!! Me want spend 400$ and have first nobl/hero and then say "GF noobs i owned you all" and then "you are no competition to me! you suck, bye"

You speak about competition?

What's the best way to have competition :
1 ) Let 1 bigt clan ( with number and nolife player ) with bigger organisation play 24/24, be the first to reach nobless. Get first heros, first epics, ...
2 ) Give chance to more little clan ( or even random ) to get nobless by donation, take cakes to get xp faster to give competion w/o been online 24/24.

If you let people ( who dont want to spend all the night to look at barakiel spawn, and be KS by other clan ) have nobless with donation, you will see more nobless char at the end of March, so more competition...

So please, dont speak about competition when you speak about donation. Thxs

This serv work with that... Why do you want to change it?

About nobless donation : The best way to get $ by nobless for administration, is in the first month. ( get 20k token from start, maybe à heros in your clan for April, is better for player who want to donate. ... ) so admin will make 'easy and fast' money with that. And you ask them to change it, lol.

[itstime]

If removing forever adena is not an option, at least remove any gameplay influencing stuff for the first month, so everyone has an equal start.

believe me that its way worse that way, ppl dont want to start a low rate and after 1 month get a surprise like that.
Donations Should start from the same day or shouldnt start at all.

Its the same like saying after 1 month "Server will be x200 rate" or "Custom full buff npc in giran" ppl would just dont like it and they have the right to know what will happen later.

looks like you have completly no idea what are we talking about OR youre just one of those that want to take advantage over others via DONATIONS and thats why you are saying: DONATIONS FROM START!! Me want spend 400$ and have first nobl/hero and then say "GF noobs i owned you all" and then "you are no competition to me! you suck, bye"

You speak about competition?

What's the best way to have competition :
1 ) Let 1 bigt clan ( with number and nolife player ) with bigger organisation play 24/24, be the first to reach nobless. Get first heros, first epics, ...
2 ) Give chance to more little clan ( or even random ) to get nobless by donation, take cakes to get xp faster to give competion w/o been online 24/24.

If you let people ( who dont want to spend all the night to look at barakiel spawn, and be KS by other clan ) have nobless with donation, you will see more nobless char at the end of March, so more competition...

So please, dont speak about competition when you speak about donation. Thxs

This serv work with that... Why do you want to change it?

About nobless donation : The best way to get $ by nobless for administration, is in the first month. ( get 20k token from start, maybe à heros in your clan for April, is better for player who want to donate. ... ) so admin will make 'easy and fast' money with that. And you ask them to change it, lol.

the thing is that actually those pro nolifer clans will donate and get way stronger

and about part with affecting the server "life" and ballance...I loled

[Mouarf]

You can 'loled' as much as you can...
Adminisration put gm shop like this, and you cant change it. so continue to loled

[itstime]

And i doubt that admins would change the donation cuz they will just lose money. Its obvious that setting any private server is just for cash earning even if GMs say different and claim that all the money they get are being spent on bills.

do I really have to quote myself?

[SplichO]

I just hope that there wont be donation for sub/nobl, at least for 1 month, other wise is gonna be bullsh1t and who will have more $$$ he will get way to big advantage, specially if you can even buy adena with coins as it is atm on the npc.

[Nerz]

They should get rid of gm-shop or just stick with minor things that dont do great impact in-game specially if those items only work with donation but still I don't agree very much with the idea of having a gm-shop,also npc-buffer what we need that for? didn´t we had beguinner's guide npc already?It's not a big deal I just think it's pointless...

[CommunismFTW]

Stop it already with the "gm shop" It is NOT an gm shop, u can think at it like the official l2.ru ingame shop. It's just the way donation system is set up here. It has extremely few items there that interfere with gameplay (and their craaaaaazy expensive, like 200 bucks for 60kk adena; i wanna see u donate for that). And that buffer only works for characters BELOW level 40 so u can pretty much say it's USELESS!

[szato1991]

we have byffer till 62 anyway

[wegotthis]

I think donations are fair.

I rather have the server supported by enhanced donations than black market corruption for boss jewels and s grade ect.

[Pel8]

Well you can donate like 100euros sell all those sc and you can buy shit load of stuff ig

[wegotthis]

u can also drop 100 euros on retail and be in full S grade at lvl 1.

Whats ur point?

How far is someone gonna get with 60kk?  First b grade luxury set.

Plz not that

[culinko]

u can also drop 100 euros on retail and be in full S grade at lvl 1.

Whats ur point?

How far is someone gonna get with 60kk?  First b grade luxury set.

Plz not that

clan hall?

[xForce]

n1 from administrators repeat ?:s

[ssj3]

i like gm shop cause i dont take money from my parents like u kids

[Ajax]

i like gm shop cause i dont take money from my parents like u kids

He's right

[reni]

I'm adult, have job and i can afford donations like many other so this is wrong and should be forbidden at the beggining.

[Arky]

Stop it already with the "gm shop" It is NOT an gm shop, u can think at it like the official l2.ru ingame shop. It's just the way donation system is set up here. It has extremely few items there that interfere with gameplay (and their craaaaaazy expensive, like 200 bucks for 60kk adena; i wanna see u donate for that). And that buffer only works for characters BELOW level 40 so u can pretty much say it's USELESS!

I just logged to 5x and the GM shop sells adena equivalent of 1-5-10-50-100-200-500-1000 coins which means 60-300-600k adena and so on.That's NOT cool lol.

[CommunismFTW]

1000 coins = 64kk adena = 204$
Wanna make the server owners rich? And u poor? Go ahead and donate 

P.S. Yes, i would like adena to be removed for ever but at least it's crazy expensive so u can be sure that the amount of adena that will come from donations is going to influence the market, imo, in less then 1%.

[Kewell]

any1 know something about cakes ? it will run normal?

and what merCy means saying it: With this, server will not handle 3.000+ expected population, and HDD's information remaining..

[bakmaita]

i'll donate $200 for hairpin

[Xuse]

I want Giant's codex removed from the GM shop too. Not like it will happen, but worth a try. D:

[CommunismFTW]

Giants codex and enchants were removed already. The only things left from our QQ list are adena and cake / xp runes. Imo, only adena should be removed, the cake and xp runes are more then ok.

[Kewell]

Giants codex and enchants were removed already. The only things left from our QQ list are adena and cake / xp runes. Imo, only adena should be removed, the cake and xp runes are more then ok.

+1

AGREE

[Remember]

A really important question would be:

All the donations that u removed from shop, when will they be put back again?

Items like fortuna cubes/ enchants/bogs just ruin the game.