skill enchant bug

Started by zomg1, January 05, 2010, 05:04:23 AM

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iPKu

#50
As for the bug itself. I'm not sure - haven't logged in to 30x for weeks.

However, seems like there are quite few people telling that it does exist.

As thinking for logic, it could exist, since lag-is-lag. It makes things to work less accurate as they spouse to.

Wouldn't really surprised if it was true after all.
And if bug did existed, and ETC knew about it - THEY DID EXPLOIT IT. Just saying.

<3 Toxic

Jacky

Quote from: iPKu on January 06, 2010, 11:24:06 AM
As for the bug itself. I'm not sure - haven't logged in to 30x for weeks.

However, seems like there are quite few people telling that it does exist.

As thinking for logic, it could exist, since lag-is-lag. It makes things to work less accurate as they spouse to.

Wouldn't really surprised if it was true after all.
And if bug did existed, and ETC knew about it - THEY DID EXPLOIT IT. Just saying.

<3 Toxic
We didnt exploit single bug and we never will, go cry somewhere else pls.
If ppl know what are mastery books and how many bogs, nobody with brain could be crying about some skill enchants in our clan lol, actually I think we are pretty low and unlucky in skill enchanting.
BTW I cant even imagine how can lag help ppl enchant skills it doesnt make sence at all.

Rafting from Argentina to Miami (FL) since 2005.
Quote from: pub on July 13, 2010, 01:40:45 PM
why the fuck i should join anyone?
Quote from: bolo5 on September 29, 2010, 01:01:34 PM
forgs united with afl had less numbers than bobs
Quote from: Ruyko on January 13, 2016, 05:06:06 PM
What a noob, how you will make faster with giran clan lvl 9 , such feil hahahahaha

James_p

OMG Jacky.......R U sure for all your clan mates?I think no,U cannot swear this....and if U dont believe this exploit,U R just blind an U dont wanna see it.....here is manual for U:
1) w8 for our beloved lags
2) take some bogs/masterys and go to your skill enchant NPC
3) if U have more than 1 bog/mastery, keep just 1 in your inv and put others for ex to your wolf
4) press enchant skill which U wanna enchant and immediately start enchanting other skills with the same bog/mastery(maybe it works for the same skill too)
5)your bog/mastery will disappear after few seconds bcs of lags.....

still dont understand this?I dont think so.And for ex,one my friend get 52+52 badges in TW before more than month so this bug/xploit is here for long time....so some rollback is pointless. I am interested how many ppls used it...and now Jacky when U know how to do it,buy muchoooooooooo masterys and hurry to enchant so U will not be late against your clan mates :-*

Jacky

How does lagging items help u to get to +30 skills, u are retarded...lol, u will break skills like this anyway, if anybody is trying to use this, hes risking to get caught by logs.
Anyway there has been plenty of noobs crying about enchant skills and even one GM was so naive and stupid and believe it and deleted one of my members skill completly, because there are mastery books and when u rly want u will enchant your skills too and ETC have rly good opportunity since we have a lot of bogs from castles/heroes all the time aviable unlike all others who cry here, the GM had to give it fast back as it was since it was completly done legit way. Crybabies like creator of this topic and clueless ppl make huge QQfest around enchanted skills, while I know only rly few ppl with RLY rly highly enchanted skills and i know very well what it costs them and how they farm to get it done.
And once again FOR retards: ETC was never using anykind of bugs/exploits, thats our clan credo, I speak for the clan yes, ofc I cant stand behind each individual, but as clan we have it clear and ppl know i wouldnt allow anybody use exploits or bugs thats how it is. So when some IDIOT write ETC would use it for sure when they know it, I have to write NO FUCKING way ETC as clan using bugs/exploits.

Rafting from Argentina to Miami (FL) since 2005.
Quote from: pub on July 13, 2010, 01:40:45 PM
why the fuck i should join anyone?
Quote from: bolo5 on September 29, 2010, 01:01:34 PM
forgs united with afl had less numbers than bobs
Quote from: Ruyko on January 13, 2016, 05:06:06 PM
What a noob, how you will make faster with giran clan lvl 9 , such feil hahahahaha

Nas

Quote from: James_p on January 06, 2010, 01:10:01 PM
OMG Jacky.......R U sure for all your clan mates?I think no,U cannot swear this....and if U dont believe this exploit,U R just blind an U dont wanna see it.....here is manual for U:
1) w8 for our beloved lags
2) take some bogs/masterys and go to your skill enchant NPC
3) if U have more than 1 bog/mastery, keep just 1 in your inv and put others for ex to your wolf
4) press enchant skill which U wanna enchant and immediately start enchanting other skills with the same bog/mastery(maybe it works for the same skill too)
5)your bog/mastery will disappear after few seconds bcs of lags.....

still dont understand this?I dont think so.And for ex,one my friend get 52+52 badges in TW before more than month so this bug/xploit is here for long time....so some rollback is pointless. I am interested how many ppls used it...and now Jacky when U know how to do it,buy muchoooooooooo masterys and hurry to enchant so U will not be late against your clan mates :-*
Nice guide, bro. Looks like u know how to cheat,but thats not a proof that we are using it. Btw ,zomg1 or w/e ur nick is, ask ur friend(the one that was enchanting his lvl 77 skill to +18) again how he is buggind oe skills and post the guide here, id like to make few lvl 77 skills +18(and mb more?).

lolek


RaMi

Quote from: James_p on January 06, 2010, 01:10:01 PM
OMG Jacky.......R U sure for all your clan mates?I think no,U cannot swear this....and if U dont believe this exploit,U R just blind an U dont wanna see it..
It goes other way around u know? Are you sure that ETC were using a bug? u have any proof for this? Shut the fuck up than, coz its simply a trashtalk and fake accusation.... That should be punished aswell. It goes for you iPKu

QuoteAnd if bug did existed, and ETC knew about it - THEY DID EXPLOIT IT. Just saying.

thats low.

nkYellOw

any admins show this topic? wtf ? yesterday server will be down again and have lags, good job guys...

Toxic

#58


proof for too much quest reward (certification skills)

bjorn

:D first of all i would check the creators of the topic and the ones, who are so sure about that "bug" cause they apparently dont know how skills are enchanted in gracia final or they just act like retards :) . try to bug somethin else like u claim book are used ... for example cp pots or w/e ... everything youses the item it needs, even with a lag it uses it with a time difference. everyone would run with +30 skills by your conspiracy theory but there are only few ppl with rly high oed skills and only 1 or maybe max 2 ... and guess what ... its hellish expensive to make it so ye, all around made their skills with 1 book. gtfo forum trolls  ;D

P.S.: i see only a proof (like words are a proof) that 2 quests gave more items than it should. so report it and dont troll here with your theories

Arris

#60
Quote from: bjorn on January 06, 2010, 03:15:29 PM
:D first of all i would check the creators of the topic and the ones, who are so sure about that "bug" cause they apparently dont know how skills are enchanted in gracia final or they just act like retards :) . try to bug somethin else like u claim book are used ... for example cp pots or w/e ... everything youses the item it needs, even with a lag it uses it with a time difference. everyone would run with +30 skills by your conspiracy theory but there are only few ppl with rly high oed skills and only 1 or maybe max 2 ... and guess what ... its hellish expensive to make it so ye, all around made their skills with 1 book. gtfo forum trolls  ;D

P.S.: i see only a proof (like words are a proof) that 2 quests gave more items than it should. so report it and dont troll here with your theories

The problem is that enchants are different... if we had normal lags, it would be fine. But the problem is with item lag. You can enchant skill and server will react to it immediately but your mastery book will dissapear in 5-8 seconds. It means that If you will click next time, server will still see that you have enchant book and will allow you to continue enchanting as long as this book will be in your inventory. I'm waiting to get GC - Mastery and item lag to make screens becouse some retards are blind as hell.

QuoteWe didnt exploit single bug and we never will, go cry somewhere else pls.

Ahahahaha. That made my day. And how will you call, healing your baium party from outside/below of Baium room? :>

EDIT: If you will break your skill with mastery book, Game will still allow you to continue if book didn't dissapeared yet. So you can have idk, let's say Mass disarm +9, click 5 times and even if you will have 3 times, you will stil have +2 more.

kornes

I rly dont understand why u still think that there is no bug, all these ppl are just haters ? and come here to flame ur clan?
This is topic about major bug and was made to inform administration, not for flame ETC which even w/o it are untouchable atm. Why ppl here strongly repeat that there is no any bug? Maybe just leave this to resolve by administration and stfu?
Also no1 said that whole etc use that bug, but for sure one of that 100+ member noticed that already. You ask why not every1 have all skills +100 ? imo cuz bogs/master bogs are expensive and also till now not much ppl known about that.


I just hope that admins will at last do something and check logs ~.~
x5

dagothur

Feel free to check anyone from ETC. My disarm for example was checked by gm cause Meow reported me. We didnt use anythin besides normal enchanting with gc mastery books. And its insane expensive i must say :). Spent like 40kkk already for it.

kornes

Quote from: dagothur on January 06, 2010, 03:52:33 PM
Feel free to check anyone from ETC. My disarm for example was checked by gm cause Meow reported me. We didnt use anythin besides normal enchanting with gc mastery books. And its insane expensive i must say :). Spent like 40kkk already for it.
ah, now u will keep ur hero status not only for 100% but for 199% ! ;d
x5

Jacky

#64
Quote from: Arris on January 06, 2010, 03:39:16 PM
Ahahahaha. That made my day. And how will you call, healing your baium party from outside/below of Baium room? :>
This issue has been discussed several times on several server, even on retail and it has been confirmed as not a bug but feature by nc-soft, same we better consulted all such things with GM before doing it, because sometimes some ppl see things from other POV, but not in this case on this server. So call your mommy and cry to her pls...
Too bad u spent your energy on crying about ETC members skill enchants instead of trying to find out, IF even such bug exist and how does it work to report it properly, only one person i think it was Toxic gave here at least something like a proof that sub-skill mastery book was used twice in matter of lag, again this should be really easy to find out and punish the ppl same as I wanted while some users were exploiting vote/sms system to DC ppl on olympiad. BTW high lvl skill enchants were made in my clan before this lags occured anyway...
And to the theory of using some bog or mastery book to start enchanting more skills well yea if it really work like this this would help mostly to poor ppl who doesnt have bogs to make a lot of basic skill enchants on low +++, but still skills imo do break this way so its not rly helpfull making some insane enchants anyway.

Rafting from Argentina to Miami (FL) since 2005.
Quote from: pub on July 13, 2010, 01:40:45 PM
why the fuck i should join anyone?
Quote from: bolo5 on September 29, 2010, 01:01:34 PM
forgs united with afl had less numbers than bobs
Quote from: Ruyko on January 13, 2016, 05:06:06 PM
What a noob, how you will make faster with giran clan lvl 9 , such feil hahahahaha

razz

You should ask Jacky how many BOGs we get from olympiad and all castles. It's way more than 1k per month. Pure mathematics.

Arris

Quote from: Jacky on January 06, 2010, 04:17:43 PM
Quote from: Arris on January 06, 2010, 03:39:16 PM
Ahahahaha. That made my day. And how will you call, healing your baium party from outside/below of Baium room? :>
This issue has been discussed several times on several server, even on retail and it has been confirmed as not a bug but feature by nc-soft, same we better consulted all such things with GM before doing it, because sometimes some ppl see things from other POV, but not in this case on this server. So call your mommy and cry to her pls...
Too bad u spent your energy on crying about ETC members skill enchants instead of trying to find out, IF even such bug exist and how does it work to report it properly, only one person i think it was Toxic gave here at least something like a proof that sub-skill mastery book was used twice in matter of lag, again this should be really easy to find out and punish the ppl same as I wanted while some users were exploiting vote/sms system to DC ppl on olympiad. BTW high lvl skill enchants were made in my clan before this lags occured anyway...
And to the theory of using some bog or mastery book to start enchanting more skills well yea if it really work like this this would help mostly to poor ppl who doesnt have bogs to make a lot of basic skill enchants on low +++, but still skills imo do break this way so its not rly helpfull making some insane enchants anyway.

Jacky, but with books mastery, skills do not break. You can fail enchanting but on lag just click few times more and you will still enchant it higher. I can understand why you deny that ETC used any exploits (even though i'm almost sure that you did used some exploits, even if that was just few times) but i don't get it why you fanatically deny bug existence. Just go and try it by yourself (even though checking such important report should be GMs duty).

Jacky

If u were reading my post u would see I am not fanaticly denying there might be some bug or some kind of exploit connected with lag, but its too much reading for u it seems....u just have to ignore ppl who have absolutely no clue what is possible and what not and tell them to STFU, what u need here is to find out what exactly is possible to do with such thing, report it corectly and ask admin to do smt against it. And for u again ETC as clan never used anykind of exploit or bug, tho i know a lot of them, i never allowed ppl to use any of them...we were trying always to report all bugs when possible and help to make the server better not using some kind of bugs for us like did that clan from LT, cant remember the name, but one of the ppl who are screaming on forums about others exploiting was member of that clan...so its just hilarious what are some ppl capable to do/say here.
If u rly want to report / fix some bug u have to filter retards and kids who doesnt have any clue.
Than u can hope it wont be rly rly complicated to recover/find such bug users in database/logs and admin will do smt with it. But if he didnt wanted even to take hero status from russians who were DCing ppl and gained hero status like this..dunno if he will want to spent time be recovering this kind of exploits....

Rafting from Argentina to Miami (FL) since 2005.
Quote from: pub on July 13, 2010, 01:40:45 PM
why the fuck i should join anyone?
Quote from: bolo5 on September 29, 2010, 01:01:34 PM
forgs united with afl had less numbers than bobs
Quote from: Ruyko on January 13, 2016, 05:06:06 PM
What a noob, how you will make faster with giran clan lvl 9 , such feil hahahahaha

Prince

Quote from: Arris on January 06, 2010, 05:02:56 PM
Jacky, but with books mastery, skills do not break. You can fail enchanting but on lag just click few times more and you will still enchant it higher.

Arris why u post this? ETC know about it for a loooong time..

zomg1

Damn u ppl, bring back items lags and ill fraps how is this bug working. Even if i will get ban for that.

Btw its so sad that u cant discuss without insulting other ppl... Mature ppl use arguments imo, so what? U are a banch of kids or what? WTB replays without insulting words.

Jacky

Quote from: Prince on January 06, 2010, 05:26:26 PM
Quote from: Arris on January 06, 2010, 05:02:56 PM
Jacky, but with books mastery, skills do not break. You can fail enchanting but on lag just click few times more and you will still enchant it higher.

Arris why u post this? ETC know about it for a loooong time..
This is example off idiots just spamming/hating, which u must ignore if u want to have serious topic about some bug.
How could only ETC know about such bug when there wasnt any conditions to even try it...lol but suuuuuuuuuure ETC knows, ETC uses...cry more.

Rafting from Argentina to Miami (FL) since 2005.
Quote from: pub on July 13, 2010, 01:40:45 PM
why the fuck i should join anyone?
Quote from: bolo5 on September 29, 2010, 01:01:34 PM
forgs united with afl had less numbers than bobs
Quote from: Ruyko on January 13, 2016, 05:06:06 PM
What a noob, how you will make faster with giran clan lvl 9 , such feil hahahahaha

Chris

Again the same, there is a supposed bug? lets blame ETC!
Chrispwns/lolTK
@ETC/@BoB
Surrender? this is a Spanish Tercio!

re-xa

#72
Does it matter who used bug? Important thing is that this bug exists and can be exploited by anyone.
Stop spamming about ETC with "they used it or not". Just lets think what to do and how to "convice"
admins to do something about this. I'm suprised that we still didn't get any information about this
case or if GMs even care about it. Below is list of bugs that already were posted on this forum
(propably i will just get banned again) and was deleted by server administration (ofc we still don't know why).

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Jacky

I think server staff doesnt want players to see it so they can exploit it even more and trying to find out what to do now, admin is never writing here on forums, so u can only hope he works on it and repair it....

Rafting from Argentina to Miami (FL) since 2005.
Quote from: pub on July 13, 2010, 01:40:45 PM
why the fuck i should join anyone?
Quote from: bolo5 on September 29, 2010, 01:01:34 PM
forgs united with afl had less numbers than bobs
Quote from: Ruyko on January 13, 2016, 05:06:06 PM
What a noob, how you will make faster with giran clan lvl 9 , such feil hahahahaha

Arris

Quote from: Jacky on January 06, 2010, 07:30:39 PM
I think server staff doesnt want players to see it so they can exploit it even more and trying to find out what to do now, admin is never writing here on forums, so u can only hope he works on it and repair it....

But there are many GMs and i think they communicate with each other, just official post by any GM that Administration is working on this problem would be good move...