dual dagger elemental, looking for opinion

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mk89

Quote from: hello on January 02, 2012, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: mk89 on January 02, 2012, 12:33:51 AM
Quote from: hello on January 02, 2012, 12:27:52 AM
Quote from: mk89 on January 01, 2012, 11:49:33 PM
Quote from: Wayne on December 29, 2011, 11:32:09 PM
Quote from: mk89 on December 29, 2011, 09:57:52 PM
1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best :)

You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4  got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD

Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE.
with duals u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1 that is equal to 1H dagger Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.3 u will make same dmg with both daggers and the only reason dual daggers are better is that u can use dual blow and have more dps. when u add pvp on dual daggers u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.3 while on 1H dagger its only lvl1 :) so I don't need any screens it's just pure facts... go test urself and qq then.

i hope you realize that all weapons above top A(?) get extra pvp damage when you SA them, it's not just dual daggers, single handed daggers also get it.
o rly?
http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=2&id=14127
http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=2&id=13884

Now u can start troll that it's l2j database :)

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Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.2
Active
Increases Critical Damage. Inflicts additional damage during PvP.

I can troll that you're dumb and can't read.
look twice my friend :D u get SA pvp bonus when u make duals +4 and u get lvl 1 pvp dmg totaly diferent skill just from dual daggers even+0 so gf :D

mk89


Soul`

so u post a link where both makes almost same dmg and single one is w/o pvp, ok dude

Static

Quote from: Wayne on December 29, 2011, 11:32:09 PM
Quote from: mk89 on December 29, 2011, 09:57:52 PM
1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best :)

You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4  got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD

Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE.
+

mk89

Quote from: Soul` on January 02, 2012, 10:15:54 PM
so u post a link where both makes almost same dmg and single one is w/o pvp, ok dude

hater gonna hate :) i will make a damn test to stfu f like u :D

Aquilo

Dual dual here that we have to complain about the server jajajajajaj  :D
Toma Toma Wayne Toma xD

hello

Quote from: mk89 on January 02, 2012, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: hello on January 02, 2012, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: mk89 on January 02, 2012, 12:33:51 AM
Quote from: hello on January 02, 2012, 12:27:52 AM
Quote from: mk89 on January 01, 2012, 11:49:33 PM
Quote from: Wayne on December 29, 2011, 11:32:09 PM
Quote from: mk89 on December 29, 2011, 09:57:52 PM
1h dagger and dual daggers +4 both pvp same dmg, tested on OBT so imo dual daggers are best :)

You're wrong, test it again and prove with screenshots, 1h daggers with SA CD make more dmg than dual daggers that have no SA (-CD) and remember that dual dagger +4  got 2-3% lower CD then 1H Dagger +CD

Is like eyolis said, the propose to use dual daggers is only for cancel ofc if u have it on {pvp} and for PVE.
with duals u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1 that is equal to 1H dagger Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.3 u will make same dmg with both daggers and the only reason dual daggers are better is that u can use dual blow and have more dps. when u add pvp on dual daggers u get Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.3 while on 1H dagger its only lvl1 :) so I don't need any screens it's just pure facts... go test urself and qq then.

i hope you realize that all weapons above top A(?) get extra pvp damage when you SA them, it's not just dual daggers, single handed daggers also get it.
o rly?
http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=2&id=14127
http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=2&id=13884

Now u can start troll that it's l2j database :)

Quote
Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.2
Active
Increases Critical Damage. Inflicts additional damage during PvP.

I can troll that you're dumb and can't read.
look twice my friend :D u get SA pvp bonus when u make duals +4 and u get lvl 1 pvp dmg totaly diferent skill just from dual daggers even+0 so gf :D

wow fucking dumbass do you have any idea how those skills even work? i said both give pvp damage once they're SA'd, and fyi the standart pvp bonus for SA'ing a weapon is the same for the same weapon grade (10% for vesper).
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Soul`

Quote from: mk89 on January 02, 2012, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: Soul` on January 02, 2012, 10:15:54 PM
so u post a link where both makes almost same dmg and single one is w/o pvp, ok dude

hater gonna hate :) i will make a damn test to stfu f like u :D

waiting for it, but why dont u comment on the link u posted urself.

hello man u know shit, Sa single vesper is lv1 pvp dmg and dual Sa is lv3 while that lv3 = the cd from single+the pvp bonus, fuk

edit: and didnt even mention +4 bonus from dual man

mk89

Are u stupid or wtf?

Vesper Shaper Critical Damage

Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.2
Active
Increases Critical Damage. Inflicts additional damage during PvP.

Vesper Dual Daggers

Special Ability: Focus Lv.1
Active, enabled, when enchanted for +4 or more
Increases critical rate. Inflicts additional damage during PvP.
and
Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1
Active
Inflicts additional damage during PvP.


problem?

vesslan

mk89,

Everyone has their playstyle.

If you want to use that sh1t dual dagger you're free to use it..

Problem?


mk89

no problem i'am using them, but still someone asked witch one is the best :)

hello

Quote from: mk89 on January 03, 2012, 02:20:57 AM
Are u stupid or wtf?

Vesper Shaper Critical Damage

Special Ability: Crtical Damage Lv.2
Active
Increases Critical Damage. Inflicts additional damage during PvP.

Vesper Dual Daggers

Special Ability: Focus Lv.1
Active, enabled, when enchanted for +4 or more
Increases critical rate. Inflicts additional damage during PvP.
and
Special Ability: PvP Damage Lv.1
Active
Inflicts additional damage during PvP.


problem?

You still didn't get it did you?
)

vesslan

Quote from: mk89 on January 03, 2012, 03:28:36 AM
no problem i'am using them, but still someone asked witch one is the best :)

The best will be forevah 1h dagger with SA CD, not that sh1t dual dagger for pve xaxa0x.


mk89


vesslan