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"a prefix corresponding to the server of origin will be added
(for example, Player -> Playerx1)"

It's suffix or the example is wrong.

ted si dame Deli

Quote from: iQQ on June 22, 2010, 03:31:16 PM
Okey, tak buud tise doufat ze se co nejdriv objevi informace a ze se to conejdrive otevre. Cetl sem neco o konci srpna, ale modlim se za konec cervna nebo tak, protoze to bude mit vetsina prazdniny tudiz vice casu na hrani a dobry cas na poradne rozehrati na new severu 

A administrátoři budou mít dovolenky a bude se jim strašně chtít řešit nějaký nový server...

Download Gracia Final client or simply ignore the wall, its possible to get there through the rocks...

any new idea how to force DMG to showing up on the screen?

Quote from: Udunnome on April 08, 2010, 04:25:58 PM
like I said before you can't display dmg anymore apparently ,tnx to korean developers,at least that is what I found out and,like you prolly ,when I tried to modify system msg for OSD display all I got was my nick instead of the damage variable.if I'm wrong and someone knows otherwise pls share.tnx again 

Same experience. I wonder if its only client side. If it is, there should be some solution...doesnt have to be an easy one of course. 

Quote from: MichaelV on March 29, 2010, 11:29:13 AM
How about this idea, what if we make Fantasy Island the main trade area where every kind of sell/buy/craft shop is permitted and in towns we only allow the most common shops that are used most often? Like shots, potions, crafting ... It's easy to get in fantasy island and free and those with limited bandwidth connections and weak pc's won't have to endure this in every major town, only when they're forced to go there. If u think the idea is not good, tell me why and how can we improve it.
This is the best i can come up with for now.

If you want to earn money, will you create private store at some town or at main trade area? So the question: Will there any crafters/sellers at towns? And if they will, the weak PC's customer probably will have to try more than one town until find any or what they needed.
I daresay they will practically forced to go to FI all the time.

Nevertheless I am for your suggestion. Its not possible to shorten load time or lower bandwidth if you want to go shopping. Market means a lot of people, doesnt matter how you solve that. Of course you can spread the people all over the world and  there will be no market, which doesnt solve anything. If someones connection or HW doesnt fulfil minimal requirements of some game he cant simply play it or he has to count that will be limited in some way.
The important thing is to make the game playable if you do not want to go shopping.

And the last but not least if you will block private craft/stores in towns make excepcions inside of CHs for obvious reasons.

Quote from: Rozjebunda on March 28, 2010, 06:33:24 PM
so u want to tell me if i run 3 game clients and put shops in 3 different towns, only 1 client will receive data from server? seriously something is pretty weird in this........

Omg of course not, but do you really thing that anybody has problem with three running trade bots?
And my previous post doesnt implicate what you are saying. I clearly said that one client receives the data only from location where is located. If someone has so low bandwitdh then he naturally cant log in three accounts, there isnt any help for him.  
I hope we are talking about people who need to go throught the towns or buy the things, who have to wait ages than other people and NPCs load, not about ability to login traders.

Quote from: Rozjebunda on March 28, 2010, 03:03:57 PM
i was talking about clients too, what eats more dandwidth - 1 client in giran or 3 clients in 3 different towns?

If youre really talking about clients it eats the same amount of bandwidth, because the server doesnt send you data from 3 differend towns at the same time, only from the one where you actually are.

Quote from: Rozjebunda on March 28, 2010, 02:48:38 PM
if there wont be any universal trade zone like previous poster mentioned, ppl will have to set more shops what completely misses the point of decreasing bandwidth usage

Michael wasnt talking about bandwidth of server, but bandwidth of some clients.
I have a little weird experience from one server about disconecting in overcrowded Giran. The solution wasnt to pay for faster   internet connection, but to download the NetLimiter and decrease the connection speed to some really ridiculous value like 5kbps and it really worked

I like the idea of dividing shops acording to goods, but to make it really useful you should:

1) Make ONLY ONE place for "one" (group) type of good. No universal places such as MDT.
Reasons:
a)Why its divided if I still have to teleport to more places to find something or to compare the prices.
b)If you make universal place, everybody will use it as the main trade zone and the whole idea is gone.

2) Make these trade zones at SPECIAL PLACES, which are available from EVERY GK for free. You can use the existing ones (for ex. I like the idea of Fantasy Island) or create a new ones at normally unreachable places and dont forget to add WH and Grocery to these places. (these places are usually one huge flat area with one texture = nothing to load for users with slow PCs)
If you do so, it makes also teleporting times shorter, you dont have to wait for GK in towns and so on.

3)If you let it in towns:
a) Use towns which has huge, spacious, well arranged areas close to GK (imagine Giran). I really dont like Dion, where you have to run XY meters from GK. I want to teleport in, see what i need, click it  and teleport out. Only advatage of Dion is it has the nearest Grocery from trade spot. (maybe it was intention, dont know)
b) One of these places should be in Giran. Giran was always the main trade center and maybe some clans were calculating with that fact when they were bidding their CHs.

At last we should realize the NEGATIVES of dividing stores:
a)You cant sell/buy more differend things at the same time (it will lead to creating more chars per person only for sitting at three or four differend places, which also means higher load for server)
b)The magic of markets, when you are just going around the traders and watching if there isnt something interesting without clear itention is gone.

Quote from: Deathwish on March 25, 2010, 07:53:19 PM
How about to add to your theory that server-client exchange can include some ID specifed for each PC?

It can, but it doesnt

My theory:

There isnt another method how to check  it, than client per IP, but its impractial solution beacause of routers/proxys etc. so they removed it from rules.
But if they were admit it, it would also mean that everyone can log in unlimited number of accounts, which is also very positiv message for botters.

If I am wrong why nobody got a clean answer.

Quote from: ChRiS82 on March 22, 2010, 03:45:35 AM
How i can be sure that we will not had any problem ?

You cant be sure, you are playing at free server with no garantions.

Secondly, you support breaking the user agreement of NCsoft product if you let your clients to join non offical server. Its not a big deal until your income is based on that fact. Still, not my problem I am just curious.

There isnt anything about same IP in server rules. Actually, dont know what does it implicate. There are 4 topics at least with basicly the same problem without any more specific answer.
I would like to know as well which  facts can lead to ban the player.

change resolution to 800x600 

https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php?topic=3016.0

https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php?topic=3027.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsWG0wOZLjg&feature=related

If you take into account  that you can have logged in unlimited number of trade bots = more than three connections from one IP, it shoudnt be a reason to get  banned.

Also, if you look at server rules there isnt anything about IPs any more.

From my point of view:

Cakes ONLY for Vote Coins or NO Cakes. Many people are starting to you use them in the same way as healing potions...its necessary to have some if you go mobing, not  privilege.

NO radical CHANGES during server existence with final setup.  The rules for all players should stay the same forever. I can accept some changes NOW but not "tomorrow".

Every GM is potential server ruiner. Be very carefull with choosing them. Dont look for a new GM until you really have to.

2 box ONLY...the server has really enough people.

...maybe some of these points are a bit OT so sorry for that

Quote from: Malicious on February 25, 2010, 01:31:11 AM
Just loled, you cant play with port closed, I/E game server requares 7777/7778/7779 and etc ports, try to block then in your router, pc or w.e and run game. Most ppls in uni baraks cant play l2, couse of port blocking.

Tp play L2, this ports must be opened:

   * 53 UDP
   * 80 TCP
   * 2009 TCP
   * 2106 TCP
   * 7777 TCP

Glad if helped.

Just  let me know after you solve your problem by opening ports, cos I am pretty sure it will never happend.

I believe there could be a solution based on MAC, but a bit complicated and not very user friendly.
The loader have to chcek your MAC adress, save it in text form and send it to the database server. There the MAC adress is compared with other adresses in database. If there is more than three same MAC adresses, loader respond something like "You have more than three logged account, if not please change your MAC adress." It could also generate new MAC which isnt in database yet and of course there should by manual how to change MAC or better it could create  a script which do that.

Maybe another solution could be based on something like HW fingerprint....  

Quote from: CommunismFTW on February 25, 2010, 08:58:32 AM
I don't think u can log more then 3 accounts from same ip right now.

Its agains the rules, but actually you can (tested not by me).
If admins see 20 or more people connected from one IP, i doubt they banned them. So if you re in this group with 4 or more clients, nobody can do anything about that, I quess

About MAC...
1st problem...MAC adress is throwed away on the first router. (in other words is replaced by the MAC adress of the router)
2nd problem...there is no garantion that its unique

You can play with all ports closed. The one who needs to have the ports opened is the server not you!

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