Any possibility to do it? My business are going just 50%, because here is no offline shop :| also maybe its better, than to leave other accounts online for shop :| (maybe less lag?) in other servers i seen offline shop tickets (like shadow tickets for offline shop) so maybe its posible to do it here? any words from admins?
Quote from: Odin on November 19, 2010, 12:39:59 AM
Any possibility to do it? My business are going just 50%, because here is no offline shop :| also maybe its better, than to leave other accounts online for shop :| (maybe less lag?) in other servers i seen offline shop tickets (like shadow tickets for offline shop) so maybe its posible to do it here? any words from admins?
+1 to my friend ....it's good idea
Use tradebot ?!
Quote from: Bulle on November 19, 2010, 02:41:13 AM
Use tradebot ?!
1239490193 topic about this learn how to use search also learn something about server. Quoted guy summed it up dude.
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trade bot isn't the same as offline shop.
With offline shop you use the "shadow item" and the l2 client close but the account is still on, even if you shutdown the pc.
go back to dex
offline shop > leaving ur pc on
Can be nice radiator
well in other servers u just log out after creating the shop and the account stays online, have u tried it just like that?
Good idea ! :)
Offline shop is great idea.
Now GM should say smth about it.
+1 idea
Just forget it and get used to tradebot. There was no offline shops at x30, x5 and won't be here.
close mind is close mind.
If you can improve server services, why don't do it?
Nalarien at dex,wrath,arion it worked (these i tested) but in others also. Practically right now, all servers have this feature
Quote from: Nalarien on November 19, 2010, 04:50:50 AM
well in other servers u just log out after creating the shop and the account stays online, have u tried it just like that?
well the other servers were L2j not this GF pts files, its easy to change l2j core, but here they wont to change anything, so just log in with oog and sell/buy whole days
Quote from: muagez on November 19, 2010, 12:46:27 PM
Quote from: Nalarien on November 19, 2010, 04:50:50 AM
well in other servers u just log out after creating the shop and the account stays online, have u tried it just like that?
well the other servers were L2j not this GF pts files, its easy to change l2j core, but here they wont to change anything, so just log in with oog and sell/buy whole days
It's not like that either. Offline shops are retail feature (w/o some cupons you have to pay for like on other servers), but for some reason RPG prefers to have live players/bots on shop instead offline ones. It's been asked so many times and responce was always the same, means NO.
Quote from: Arcain on November 19, 2010, 12:52:08 PM
Quote from: muagez on November 19, 2010, 12:46:27 PM
Quote from: Nalarien on November 19, 2010, 04:50:50 AM
well in other servers u just log out after creating the shop and the account stays online, have u tried it just like that?
well the other servers were L2j not this GF pts files, its easy to change l2j core, but here they wont to change anything, so just log in with oog and sell/buy whole days
It's not like that either. Offline shops are retail feature (w/o some cupons you have to pay for like on other servers), but for some reason RPG prefers to have live players/bots on shop instead offline ones. It's been asked so many times and responce was always the same, means NO.
its on russian official? cause on na/eu you cant have offline shops
Quote from: ayozito on November 19, 2010, 12:40:16 PM
close mind is close mind.
If you can improve server services, why don't do it?
Nalarien at dex,wrath,arion it worked (these i tested) but in others also. Practically right now, all servers have this feature
Explain why feature it`s better than oog trader, you can`t turn off pc only, beside that with oog trader you can relog when the server crash and you can put all the items on a queue with auto set up shop.
Quote from: Pel8 on November 19, 2010, 01:07:14 PM
Explain why feature it`s better than oog trader, you can`t turn off pc only, beside that with oog trader you can relog when the server crash and you can put all the items on a queue with auto set up shop.
Trade Bot wil lsave you adena coz of the relogin and auto setup cycle items and auto shout
but the offline ticket will save you IRL money that you would pay to the power company
both aspects are + for the players
the point is what is better or easier for the server and the admins
Quote from: muagez on November 19, 2010, 01:01:31 PM
its on russian official? cause on na/eu you cant have offline shops
I though i saw it somewhere in changelog on lineage2 site. It's not there now so maybe that was just an idea they abandoned, weird.
i dont get u people, offline shop ir godlike thing, u can sit shop and go sleep, and in morning all items are bougth... thats how u can sell items event +20 30% more expencive..
Quote from: Odin on November 19, 2010, 02:54:29 PM
i dont get u people, offline shop ir godlike thing, u can sit shop and go sleep, and in morning all items are bougth... thats how u can sell items event +20 30% more expencive..
its not as you say cause the server is restarted (in normal conditions) every night at 03:30 so that means that your offline shop will be loged out
with the trade bot that is given here you relogin as soon as the server gets up and resetup shop as it was before server restart which means that this is more efficient to assure that you will sell everything during night
Quote from: wildjohn on November 19, 2010, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: Odin on November 19, 2010, 02:54:29 PM
i dont get u people, offline shop ir godlike thing, u can sit shop and go sleep, and in morning all items are bougth... thats how u can sell items event +20 30% more expencive..
its not as you say cause the server is restarted (in normal conditions) every night at 03:30 so that means that your offline shop will be loged out
with the trade bot that is given here you relogin as soon as the server gets up and resetup shop as it was before server restart which means that this is more efficient to assure that you will sell everything during night
oh damn didnt know that, thats it my plan gone to trash =\
on some server offline shop stays up after a normal server restart
w/e not dreaming to see it here anysoon
offline shop means 5000 online (but they are offline) + 2000 real players + 6000 crying because cant log "server full"
i don't think that ofline shop necessary to this server
all giran full of shops same aden, oren and etc...
limited online and u want that ppl sit in shop ofline, then anather ppl who wonna play can't log in
mmm how to autolog when server crash?
You can't
Quote from: Bulle on November 21, 2010, 05:29:56 AM
You can't
Explain why feature it`s better than oog trader, you can`t turn off pc only, beside that with oog trader
you can relog when the server crash and you can put all the items on a queue with auto set up shop.
with the trade bot that is given here you relogin as soon as the server gets up and resetup shop as it was before server restart which means that this is more efficient to assure that you will sell everything during night
Ive red a lot of lies round here , coming r8 from the top ...
1st - free server , no imba donation - not true , u can pay for lot of imbalanced things - farm pets for fast exping , GC (no coment about that ) ...
2nd - no offline shops cuz the files are original ! true , but uve imported ur rpg shops :) ...
3rd - first day was horible and the reason was another lie - more qst monsters . Yeah they were given , but then comes another lie - powerful server mashines , that died under the pressure of 10k players!
Now about the OFFLINE SHOPS . As u can read they are offline options . All about this game is for popularity and money !!!
If they allow offline shops server will lower the ONLINE count of players , wich is bad for server popularity , and the income money lowers too ...
HOW CAN OTHER SERVERS DO IT WITH NO DONATIONS FOR IMBALANCED ITEMS ?
See cerberus , see arion , see dex ... see all the fuckin world!!!!
Yet another retarded comment just above... gratz. What r u still doing here?
the 1st point is really very sad... they said no unbalanced donations and bogs isn't no..
Quote from: Sh0k3r on November 23, 2010, 12:49:34 AM
Ive red a lot of lies round here , coming r8 from the top ...
1st - free server , no imba donation - not true , u can pay for lot of imbalanced things - farm pets for fast exping , GC (no coment about that ) ...
2nd - no offline shops cuz the files are original ! true , but uve imported ur rpg shops :) ...
3rd - first day was horible and the reason was another lie - more qst monsters . Yeah they were given , but then comes another lie - powerful server mashines , that died under the pressure of 10k players!
Now about the OFFLINE SHOPS . As u can read they are offline options . All about this game is for popularity and money !!!
If they allow offline shops server will lower the ONLINE count of players , wich is bad for server popularity , and the income money lowers too ...
HOW CAN OTHER SERVERS DO IT WITH NO DONATIONS FOR IMBALANCED ITEMS ?
See cerberus , see arion , see dex ... see all the fuckin world!!!!
Ok cool, you can quit now
PS : NICE SERVERS U QUOTED
Quote from: Sh0k3r on November 23, 2010, 12:49:34 AM
Ive red a lot of lies round here , coming r8 from the top ...
1st - free server , no imba donation - not true , u can pay for lot of imbalanced things - farm pets for fast exping , GC (no coment about that ) ...
2nd - no offline shops cuz the files are original ! true , but uve imported ur rpg shops :) ...
3rd - first day was horible and the reason was another lie - more qst monsters . Yeah they were given , but then comes another lie - powerful server mashines , that died under the pressure of 10k players!
Now about the OFFLINE SHOPS . As u can read they are offline options . All about this game is for popularity and money !!!
If they allow offline shops server will lower the ONLINE count of players , wich is bad for server popularity , and the income money lowers too ...
HOW CAN OTHER SERVERS DO IT WITH NO DONATIONS FOR IMBALANCED ITEMS ?
See cerberus , see arion , see dex ... see all the fuckin world!!!!
Aren't those l2j?
Offline shops should have 24h expiration then I'd be find with it.
I hate to go servers "2k ppl online" and there's really, actually 1600 shops and 1000 of those are over week old and most of the players don't even play anymore. If it would not be included in the player count on top of the server list and u would make spesific zone for it it wud be ok.
Also last server I was on even if the server restarted/crashed the offline shops remained.
500 shops in giran is nothing but lag and fuking annoying if u ask me.
Quote from: sepid on November 23, 2010, 08:08:57 AM
500 shops in giran is nothing but lag and fuking annoying if u ask me.
Yeah and with offline shops there will be like 5000 shops in giran and most of them will be selling sh*t.
BTW did you ever tried using ALT+P or reducing NPC limit in towns?
did you retards realize that offline shops are next load for server who has still sometimes stability problems ?
when you you tradebot it run on your (client) side. when you use offline shop this shop its managed by server and take out resources (ram, cpu time,...) from him. so pls gtfo with your imba lol2j features and play as it is or go away.
Quote from: ayozito on November 21, 2010, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: Bulle on November 21, 2010, 05:29:56 AM
You can't
Explain why feature it`s better than oog trader, you can`t turn off pc only, beside that with oog trader you can relog when the server crash and you can put all the items on a queue with auto set up shop.
with the trade bot that is given here you relogin as soon as the server gets up and resetup shop as it was before server restart which means that this is more efficient to assure that you will sell everything during night
where i can set auto relogin? my tradebot didn't automatically connect after disconnect :X
MichaelV give us offline shop !!
Time limit 24h - shadow item.
Quote from: mindaz3 on November 23, 2010, 09:09:23 AM
Quote from: sepid on November 23, 2010, 08:08:57 AM
500 shops in giran is nothing but lag and fuking annoying if u ask me.
Yeah and with offline shops there will be like 5000 shops in giran and most of them will be selling sh*t.
BTW did you ever tried using ALT+P or reducing NPC limit in towns?
At least offline shops doesnt break ur balls every time u teleport on a town and at least offline shops let u find something on shout when all these morons with trade bots keep using shout chat for their trades and ofc nothing happens.So ofc +1 on offline shops prefer to spend 10 mins laggin at town but at least if i search for something i can find it than that crap as it is.
I don't think trade BOTS, can be a better option than offline shops.You want retail like.
This is how retail looks like, everyone's using bots.Where is the fun in that?How can you call someone a moron when he wants to get rid of the bots.
That l2walker has more options than the sell/buy things. And spamming continuously the chat really doesn't help the server or the community.
Learn to put the proper message when selling/buying stuffs not come I have the coolest shits and players will find what they looking for by using search from actions.
There is no need to spam the chat, especially the global one.
IF the trade bot is so great, why doesn't have only trade actions?If the trade bot is so great why it isn't forced to write only on TRADE channel...it is for trades isn't it?
Now I only enable trade, shout channel when I'm searching for pt in kama or laba.
You "GREAT" players are nothing than close minded 12 year old kidz or.... dumb fucks, which is worst because if you were kidz you had time to adjust and learn.
imagine that every shop i every town will be doubled if server implent that idea cause nobody will care how many chars will be on as offline shops, so from 1k (maybe more?) shops we have now, we will have 2k shops sitting around. (yes we will have less spam on the chat ofc which is good but the lag will remain the same, cause offline shops count as npc, npcs have cause the server to lag, (less than 1 player ofc but its like 3-4 npc cause the same lag as 1 player). so we will have a bit of reduced lag and lower spam on chat.
well thats 2 very very good things there.
But here comes the big big big issue with this, as i mentioned above, if i were to have 2 chars on while i sleep, so they can get vit (if i were using my mains as store) or to sell some items, now i can have even 10 to sell everything i want. so they will be no room for players to pass by.
its hard to run around at a town (giran for example) like it is right now, imagine these shops x2 or even x3. it will be a mess.
even if i like the offline shops (and i really do) it will cause a huge mess in towns in this server, cause of the huge community.
thats just my 2cent on this, feel free to right your opinions about my advantages and disadvantages. :)