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Poll
Question: Should rates be 10x ? like on test server
Option 1: yes votes: 86
Option 2: no votes: 37
Title: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: SSX on November 10, 2010, 10:21:34 PM
ok why are the rates same as 5x server? i mean wtf?! imagine making retail 1x quest rate and lets lower it 10x times normal than it should be. 10x was fine was testing server and it was perfect ... so why make same rates as 5x server? we lvl 10 times faster than they do ... i mean its only logical to make all rates higher dont you agree? 

P.S. am talking about 10x exp/sp adena reward not the amount
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Udunnome on November 10, 2010, 10:24:53 PM
you want to vote again what 10k people already voted?
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: CrossFirepwnz on November 10, 2010, 10:25:29 PM
plz die
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: SSX on November 10, 2010, 10:30:36 PM
[Quote author = Udunnome link = topic = 8830.msg114024 # msg114024 date = 1289417093] you want to vote again what 10k people already voted? [/ Quote]

its just an option that ppl can vote or not to it doesnt matter i just wana know how do ppl feel about having same rates as 5x server
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: SSX on November 10, 2010, 10:31:50 PM
[Quote author = CrossFirepwnz link = topic = 8830.msg114025 # msg114025 date = 1289417129] plz die [/ quote]

gtfo pls thanks

dont like the post dont read dont answer its a simple question
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: CrossFirepwnz on November 10, 2010, 10:33:33 PM
Quote from: SSX on November 10, 2010, 10:31:50 PM
[Quote author = CrossFirepwnz link = topic = 8830.msg114025 # msg114025 date = 1289417129] plz die [/ quote]

gtfo pls thanks

dont like the post dont read dont answer its a simple question

the only one, who should gtfo is you.

me 2: ssx 0
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: SandStorm on November 10, 2010, 10:38:10 PM
Well x5 is fine by some quests. On server start its simply too much to be lvl 29 after 1 class quest. But quests after 60 should be atleast x10.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Udunnome on November 10, 2010, 10:42:51 PM
there was a poll,people voted,rates are final ,why make useless threads? doesn't matter how people think now,they should have though before the official voting ended,Why didn't any of you make a thread than?
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Malicious on November 10, 2010, 10:45:38 PM
go fuck yourself...
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: SSX on November 10, 2010, 10:51:10 PM
[Quote author = Udunnome link = topic = 8830.msg114041 # msg114041 date = 1289418171] there was a poll, people voted, rates are final, why make useless threads? doesn't matter how people think now, they should have though before the official voting ended, Why didn't any of you make a thread than? [/ quote]

well there was no vote for 10x quest rates was there? and why did they make 10x quest rates in test server in the first place.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: CrossFirepwnz on November 10, 2010, 10:52:03 PM
ffs learn to quote
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Malicious on November 10, 2010, 10:52:06 PM
becouse its "test" server?
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Life on November 10, 2010, 10:55:58 PM
bigest bullshit is spoil amount x1, material economy gonna be fuked up once again, rest can gtfo.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: CrossFirepwnz on November 10, 2010, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Life on November 10, 2010, 10:55:58 PM
bigest bullshit is spoil amount x1, material economy gonna be fuked up once again, rest can gtfo.

My bet is 2 week, until it will be increased. ;D
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: McCoy on November 10, 2010, 10:59:54 PM
Quote+ Materials spoil and drop will be set up as on x5: amount randomly boosted.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Udunnome on November 10, 2010, 11:06:48 PM
my point is why hasn't anyone noticed for the whole 2 weeks while the vote was up?now it's pointless to complain,the server is "User Setup" isn't it? :p
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: orthos on November 10, 2010, 11:42:45 PM
To be honest, such big difference in regular xp/adena and quest xp/adena is a huge fuck up.

In order to make it well balanced q rates should be like 8x-10x or so
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: zosiek on November 11, 2010, 12:54:07 AM
no one will give a shiet about paliaka nao
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Chourre on November 11, 2010, 04:36:24 AM
quests should be 10-15x (10x sounds fair)

if the admins would have let users vote for that, 10x would have won for sure like on that poll. If we want 5x there is a server for that, we voted for high rate, that is what players want.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Saze on November 11, 2010, 04:46:11 AM
Quote from: Chourre on November 11, 2010, 04:36:24 AM
quests should be 10-15x (10x sounds fair)

if the admins would have let users vote for that, 10x would have won for sure like on that poll. If we want 5x there is a server for that, we voted for high rate, that is what players want.
+1
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Bulle on November 11, 2010, 05:12:48 AM
Quest XP/SP reward should be x10/x15 and not x5, make quest more interesting.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: SSX on November 11, 2010, 06:52:08 AM
The ppl and votes have spoken for them selfs. There wasnt just an option for 10x quest rates and that moment atleast  i didnt think about quest rates couse i was thinking about Exp/sp rates no npc buffer, no cakes. I just didnt even saw them on the botom of the voting system only now i noticed its my problem yes. Still if they are making server for us by asking us what rates do we want , they just need to read this tread and see the votes, i dont think its too hard to change Quest reward rates to 10x EXP/SP Adena  .
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: MichaelV on November 11, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
Since the poll was made we decided on smaller quest rates, as they would give too big of a boost if they were higher then 5x. The only quests that are done for xp are the pailaka's, the other quests are not done for xp/sp. And pailaka x5 is still very good to be done on x15, as it gives a very good xp boost compared to just grinding. When the poll was made, this was done with the intention to try and make it a little slower from 0 to 76+, as it is a very nice part of the game to enjoy at the start of a server. I hope you understand now. Plus, pailakas have a limited number of concurrent instances and those that would be lucky enough to catch one of them, would severely out xp the other ppl on server.

And about materials, drop will be 1x...3x and spoil 1x...something bigger like 5x/7x or even 10x not sure exactly atm. Talking about amount here.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: bfddu on November 11, 2010, 09:57:13 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on November 11, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
Since the poll was made we decided on smaller quest rates, as they would give too big of a boost if they were higher then 5x. The only quests that are done for xp are the pailaka's, the other quests are not done for xp/sp. And pailaka x5 is still very good to be done on x15, as it gives a very good xp boost compared to just grinding. When the poll was made, this was done with the intention to try and make it a little slower from 0 to 76+, as it is a very nice part of the game to enjoy at the start of a server. I hope you understand now.
And about materials, drop will be 1x...3x and spoil 1x...something bigger like 5x/7x or even 10x not sure exactly atm.

mind changing the quest rates in the test server now? cuz it's 4 days till live server and the rates are still x10,, that's why u distract people to create shitload of new topics.. cuz the rates are wrong.. voting poll shows one - in game there's another story
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: SSX on November 11, 2010, 10:18:26 AM
Quote from: bfddu on November 11, 2010, 09:57:13 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on November 11, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
Since the poll was made we decided on smaller quest rates, as they would give too big of a boost if they were higher then 5x. The only quests that are done for xp are the pailaka's, the other quests are not done for xp/sp. And pailaka x5 is still very good to be done on x15, as it gives a very good xp boost compared to just grinding. When the poll was made, this was done with the intention to try and make it a little slower from 0 to 76+, as it is a very nice part of the game to enjoy at the start of a server. I hope you understand now.
And about materials, drop will be 1x...3x and spoil 1x...something bigger like 5x/7x or even 10x not sure exactly atm.

mind changing the quest rates in the test server now? cuz it's 4 days till live server and the rates are still x10,, that's why u distract people to create shitload of new topics.. cuz the rates are wrong.. voting poll shows one - in game there's another story

i would agree. Change the quest rates to 5x on test server so we could test it out is it fine or not.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: SandStorm on November 11, 2010, 11:48:57 AM
Offtopic question :

What is Paliaka instances limit? How many ppl can enter?
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: orthos on November 11, 2010, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on November 11, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
Since the poll was made we decided on smaller quest rates, as they would give too big of a boost if they were higher then 5x. The only quests that are done for xp are the pailaka's, the other quests are not done for xp/sp. And pailaka x5 is still very good to be done on x15, as it gives a very good xp boost compared to just grinding. When the poll was made, this was done with the intention to try and make it a little slower from 0 to 76+, as it is a very nice part of the game to enjoy at the start of a server. I hope you understand now. Plus, pailakas have a limited number of concurrent instances and those that would be lucky enough to catch one of them, would severely out xp the other ppl on server.

And about materials, drop will be 1x...3x and spoil 1x...something bigger like 5x/7x or even 10x not sure exactly atm. Talking about amount here.

Besides paliaka, quest xp/adena rate significantly  affects leveling 1-40. Changing it from 10x to 5x makes stuff harder for the part of the game which ppl hate the most. Wtih rates 8x - 10x one can easily get 30+ just by chain of quests, and afford 3kk for second prof quest as well common C grades and it can be accomplished in 2 hours or so.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: SplichO on November 11, 2010, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on November 11, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
Since the poll was made we decided on smaller quest rates, as they would give too big of a boost if they were higher then 5x. The only quests that are done for xp are the pailaka's, the other quests are not done for xp/sp. And pailaka x5 is still very good to be done on x15, as it gives a very good xp boost compared to just grinding. When the poll was made, this was done with the intention to try and make it a little slower from 0 to 76+, as it is a very nice part of the game to enjoy at the start of a server. I hope you understand now. Plus, pailakas have a limited number of concurrent instances and those that would be lucky enough to catch one of them, would severely out xp the other ppl on server.

And about materials, drop will be 1x...3x and spoil 1x...something bigger like 5x/7x or even 10x not sure exactly atm. Talking about amount here.
True, but could you for example set up EXACT rates that gonna be on live now on test server so people could really test those rates.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Chourre on November 11, 2010, 03:05:48 PM
these quests mostly affect 1-40, as said before most people hate that part of the game, once people hit 46 this will barely change anything, while this would allow people to do 2nd cc without farming.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: zosiek on November 11, 2010, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: SplichO on November 11, 2010, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on November 11, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
Since the poll was made we decided on smaller quest rates, as they would give too big of a boost if they were higher then 5x. The only quests that are done for xp are the pailaka's, the other quests are not done for xp/sp. And pailaka x5 is still very good to be done on x15, as it gives a very good xp boost compared to just grinding. When the poll was made, this was done with the intention to try and make it a little slower from 0 to 76+, as it is a very nice part of the game to enjoy at the start of a server. I hope you understand now. Plus, pailakas have a limited number of concurrent instances and those that would be lucky enough to catch one of them, would severely out xp the other ppl on server.

And about materials, drop will be 1x...3x and spoil 1x...something bigger like 5x/7x or even 10x not sure exactly atm. Talking about amount here.
True, but could you for example set up EXACT rates that gonna be on live now on test server so people could really test those rates.
testing rates, nigga plz
just divide % u got vy 2 or 3 dunno hows it on test
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Lokocz on November 11, 2010, 05:10:03 PM
Quote from: Life on November 10, 2010, 10:55:58 PM
bigest bullshit is spoil amount x1, material economy gonna be fuked up once again, rest can gtfo.
lack of reading or understanding skill?
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: SSX on November 11, 2010, 08:45:13 PM
can any of GM's reply pl0x? could they make test server 5x quest rates so ppl can test it out before live server
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Guardian on November 11, 2010, 08:47:06 PM
log in new world and test x5 quest :D
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Ps2004 on November 11, 2010, 08:57:05 PM
can't vote QQ
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Shabaka on November 11, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
So you think admins will change rates in 5 days before server start, when they was announced on many sites and forums already?
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Riselie on November 11, 2010, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: Шабака on November 11, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
So you think admins will change rates in 5 days before server start, when they was announced on many sites and forums already?
qft
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: zosiek on November 11, 2010, 10:18:08 PM
Quote from: Шабака on November 11, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
So you think admins will change rates in 5 days before server start, when they was announced on many sites and forums already?
most new commers wont rly notice diffrece, and if they SOMEHOW will they wont care
who tha fk watch for quest rate in announce, more exp from % paliaka less time spent on korean farm
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: wawa1234 on November 11, 2010, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: Шабака on November 11, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
So you think admins will change rates in 5 days before server start, when they was announced on many sites and forums already?
yes its a must
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Cirdano on November 11, 2010, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: wawa1234 on November 11, 2010, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: Шабака on November 11, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
So you think admins will change rates in 5 days before server start, when they was announced on many sites and forums already?
yes its a must
botted to 83 or what
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: orthos on November 11, 2010, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: Шабака on November 11, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
So you think admins will change rates in 5 days before server start, when they was announced on many sites and forums already?

Actually I can't imagine a player bitching about easing on the pain which is grinding to 40lvl and making 2nd prof marks. And it won't affect further gameplay at all.

Not mentioning that most of these poor fellas playing test server and making hundreds of chars to check things out atm is deeply convinced live q rates will be exactly the same as they're now..  it's gonna be hella surprise for'em.

Use some common sense, x15 regular xp and x5 quest xp, it's just unbalanced ratio. There never has never been any pool about these rates.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: qqqq on November 12, 2010, 12:09:00 AM
Quote from: orthos on November 11, 2010, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: Шабака on November 11, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
So you think admins will change rates in 5 days before server start, when they was announced on many sites and forums already?

Actually I can't imagine a player bitching about easing on the pain which is grinding to 40lvl and making 2nd prof marks. And it won't affect further gameplay at all.

Not mentioning that most of these poor fellas playing test server and making hundreds of chars to check things out atm is deeply convinced live q rates will be exactly the same as they're now..  it's gonna be hella surprise for'em.

Use some common sense, x15 regular xp and x5 quest xp, it's just unbalanced ratio. There never has never been any pool about these rates.

Why you are still asking same questions?
Like its some difference if few quests will be 5x , 10x or 15x. Anyway most of the people will do just 1st,2nd and 3rd class quest. And boost IT,varka,fog,... quests more than 5x would be insane.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Pel8 on November 12, 2010, 12:27:37 AM
Quote from: Шабака on November 11, 2010, 09:20:52 PM
So you think admins will change rates in 5 days before server start, when they was announced on many sites and forums already?

Most of the ppl were not paying attention about q. rates adena/xp reward on the pool
And those changes will mostly affect some lowlvl quest and paliaka.

Quoteyes    - 75 (73.5%)
no    - 27 (26.5%)
   
Total Voters: 102

Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: orthos on November 12, 2010, 12:38:08 AM
I ain't saying that any quest items amount or chance should be changed, just xp/adena reward could be kept as it is currently on test server, so errbody can get 2nd prof easily. Cruma quests line gives 3kk which is perfect to buy marks.

Anyway admins will decide is change from x5 even worth consideration. Personally i think it's not such big deal, it'd make things easier at start leaving higher level stuff unchanged.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: ayozito on November 12, 2010, 12:38:48 AM
which is the rate of get quest items? x1?
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Kiru on November 12, 2010, 02:48:15 PM
Quote from: ayozito on November 12, 2010, 12:38:48 AM
which is the rate of get quest items? x1?

https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php/topic,8713.msg113896.html#msg113896 (https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php/topic,8713.msg113896.html#msg113896)

CLOSE THIS TOPIC
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: wawa1234 on November 12, 2010, 03:33:31 PM
Quote from: Kiru on November 12, 2010, 02:48:15 PM
Quote from: ayozito on November 12, 2010, 12:38:48 AM
which is the rate of get quest items? x1?

https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php/topic,8713.msg113896.html#msg113896 (https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php/topic,8713.msg113896.html#msg113896)

CLOSE THIS TOPIC
stfu its not end
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: kohakusan on November 12, 2010, 04:16:35 PM
Yes it is, everyone voted for that, they're not changing it.
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: wawa1234 on November 12, 2010, 05:12:02 PM
Quote from: kohakusan on November 12, 2010, 04:16:35 PM
Yes it is, everyone voted for that, they're not changing it.
where u said vote for quest rates?
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: kohakusan on November 12, 2010, 05:36:30 PM
Read the end of the page on the asterisk. Each rates had all the other rates explained at the end.
https://forumen.rpg-club.net/p-voteUSSR (https://forumen.rpg-club.net/p-voteUSSR)
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Lokocz on November 12, 2010, 05:43:50 PM
everything was clear from the beggining, too many idiots bitching here
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Eze2 on November 12, 2010, 05:47:26 PM
Make the gnoms faster rich! Put 1000000000000000000000x rates!
Title: Re: Quest Rates nmr.2
Post by: Bulle on November 15, 2010, 07:58:47 PM
Up !
Why x5 Quest ? x30 Server got x30 quest, x5 server got x5 quest so why x5 on x15 ? Make it at least x10 for more interest to do quest !!!!!!!!!!