why are you gonna boost chance again instead of ammount?
the whole population was complaining about it on 5x, its just totally stupid and you will waste tons of time to drop/spoil mats, im not asking for 15x ammounts obviously but 3-5x with drop rate depending on that should definitly be considered.
thought it would have been obvious after tons of ppl complaining about it on 5x server for 2 months. add it in the poll or at least reconsider boosting ammount for mat drops/spoils
Cuz if they improve ammount they need to change some items 1by1, so much work .)
It isn't mentioned in the poll, but the rates are supposed to reverse if chance is over 100%.
If 1x retail item "ex" has chance 5% and our rates are 10x chance 1x amount, then final rate will be 50% with 1x amount.
If 1x retail item "ey" has chance 20% and our rates are 10x chance 1x amount then final rate will be 20% with 10x amount.
This is what i understood, i'm not sure it's like this. And ofc it's only for basic mats.
okay that would be fine then, i hope its really true tho
Quote from: MichaelV on October 15, 2010, 01:54:51 AM
It isn't mentioned in the poll, but the rates are supposed to reverse if chance is over 100%.
If 1x retail item "ex" has chance 5% and our rates are 10x chance 1x amount, then final rate will be 50% with 1x amount.
If 1x retail item "ey" has chance 20% and our rates are 10x chance 1x amount then final rate will be 20% with 10x amount.
This is what i understood, i'm not sure it's like this. And ofc it's only for basic mats.
Lets talk about that more closey, since its a mandatory point in server economy and therefor also responsible for the success...
If the chacne rate would go higher than 100%, the ammount will be raised instead? and if, at which rate?
Will that also apply to quests?
is the ammount always retail like? or is it raised from the beginning ?
He said it more then clear, he even gave you a clear example. Maybe you need some more QI to understand:
Quote from: MichaelV on October 15, 2010, 01:54:51 AM
rates are supposed to reverse if chance is over 100%.
ok overread that in the early morning! im miserably sorry mr smartass... "QI" me has enuff.
what about the ammount increase then?
i also agree
f.e x15 SP/XPrates. The drop rates will be 10x chance and 1x amount. Spoil rates will be 10x chance and 1x amount. Quest rates will be 5x (only reward in adena/xp/sp and amount of items obtained from mob; also, not all quests will be boosted)
should be
The drop rates will be 1-3x chance and 10-5x amount. Spoil rates will be 3x chance and 5x amount. Quest rates will be 5x (only reward in adena/xp/sp and amount of items obtained from mob; also, not all quests will be boosted)
Quote from: MichaelV on October 15, 2010, 01:54:51 AM
It isn't mentioned in the poll, but the rates are supposed to reverse if chance is over 100%.
If 1x retail item "ex" has chance 5% and our rates are 10x chance 1x amount, then final rate will be 50% with 1x amount.
If 1x retail item "ey" has chance 20% and our rates are 10x chance 1x amount then final rate will be 20% with 10x amount.
This is what i understood, i'm not sure it's like this. And ofc it's only for basic mats.
I think you should put this on the "news" stick
and talking about quests. i remember me farming (senseless i know) for GC quest for ages to get a tallum plate recipe.
Therefor it would also be interessting which quest are going to be raised.
getting 5 times ammount in IT with a slightly increased rate, adjusted to the 15X exp rate would fit better imho. But maybe it goes too fast then =o
anyways the IT quest should imo be as effordable as the FOG quest because i think thats how it was intended by nc soft ...
and also should have 5x varka and mss from the start, on the 5x server ppl already farmed that stuff on 1x rates and then u changed it some days later ;\
Quote from: sNd on October 15, 2010, 05:35:15 PM
and also should have 5x varka and mss from the start, on the 5x server ppl already farmed that stuff on 1x rates and then u changed it some days later ;\
Good you remember to mention this, also i got to add 1 more thing DO NOT CHANGE CAKES PRICES WITHOUT ANNOUNCE like they did on x5 so ppl who donated after 3 days till they receive Coins they could buy only half for what they payed for.
sry but ... this topic is not jet about cakes =P
since any other topic already argues about those id say let this one focus on the rates only.
Quote from: sNd on October 15, 2010, 05:35:15 PM
and also should have 5x varka and mss from the start, on the 5x server ppl already farmed that stuff on 1x rates and then u changed it some days later ;\
snd 100% rigth in every post :)
and i think most ppl gonna be up for increasing amount of mats not only chance so i hope it s gonna be like u wrote upper
does it say anywhere or have they said what the quest drop rate amount is going to be? and the quest rate experience?
Quest xp rate and adena rate 5x for all quests and 5x drop rate only for some of the important quests (like FoG, IT etc.)
Quote from: MichaelV on October 28, 2010, 02:22:15 AM
Quest xp rate and adena rate 5x for all quests and 5x drop rate only for some of the important quests (like FoG, IT etc.)
so 1x drop amount from FoG / IT / Varka?
Quote from: hello on October 28, 2010, 02:39:55 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on October 28, 2010, 02:22:15 AM
Quest xp rate and adena rate 5x for all quests and 5x drop rate only for some of the important quests (like FoG, IT etc.)
so 1x drop amount from FoG / IT / Varka?
no u stupid moron
probably a typo, he meant 5x drop amount imo
Quote from: Challenger on October 28, 2010, 03:26:51 AM
Quote from: hello on October 28, 2010, 02:39:55 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on October 28, 2010, 02:22:15 AM
Quest xp rate and adena rate 5x for all quests and 5x drop rate only for some of the important quests (like FoG, IT etc.)
so 1x drop amount from FoG / IT / Varka?
no u stupid moron
maybe learn to read idiot, rate != amount
snd time for fk
Yes, i meant to say amount. Sorry for the mix up.
Quote from: MichaelV on October 28, 2010, 01:18:14 PM
Yes, i meant to say amount. Sorry for the mix up.
It's ok i forgive you.