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Title: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 01:26:13 AM
Hey.

I don't know if this has been posted already but... did you ever think about raising the buff duration of dances/songs to, i dunno..., 20 or at least 10 minutes?

It gets really annoying while boxing with a BD and switch the client every 10th mob because dances are gone...

I hope that the general reception of this idea will be positive.

Greetz,
LegionX
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Umcyk on September 06, 2010, 01:45:40 AM
 :D

Great joke. :D
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: socketk on September 06, 2010, 04:14:24 AM
what about mana potions?  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: kornes on September 06, 2010, 05:38:06 AM
u dont need them in jail..

@topic
Lold.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: iKiu ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on September 06, 2010, 09:08:46 AM
yea! i agree!!!!
also put a npc buffer in any town!!!! and a GM shop so we buy vesper gunzzz!!! LOL
/sarcasm_off
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: tombrokaw on September 06, 2010, 11:21:44 AM
there is already an npc buffer in town kiu, a free one until 6x; and then one that costs silver coins for higher lv players.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 11:44:25 AM
Wow guys... like a request for a slight increase in dance/song duration would come ANY close to some random "omg add absolute easy mode to the game" begging.

I'm just asking to minimize an imo slight strain in the game, not for GMs to put everything in my inventory and ding me 85 instantly.

And if you disagree with someone, there are much more mature ways of doing that instead of lol-trolling around. You could actually bring arguments for example, too so that I may be convinced, that it's better the way it is now.

But yeah... I kinda see the next trolling-wave coming so whatever...
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: onlindeath on September 06, 2010, 12:25:43 PM
hmm welll ,what about the balance in PVP ?

if your bd/swm can do once disko per 10-20 min than they wont need recharge so they can use hell lot of other skils like agro/fear , also ee/se will be able to do more heals/recharge/mana burn to enemies , all this is afecting directly PVP .
Many battles are won because one of the sides is out of MP and no d/s mean dead for them .

So NO to this kind of unblanancing features .

Go back to your lol pvp servers with 24 hours buffs/disko/+129 weapons and armors .
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Sardy on September 06, 2010, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 01:26:13 AM
It gets really annoying while boxing with a BD and switch the client every 10th mob because dances are gone...

Haha not only is it annoying, but you are also risking getting banned for using 3rd party software because our good GMs apparently never heard of the old good "macro" feature. You certainly wouldn't be first or last  :D
Also, never gonna happen.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 01:43:52 PM
Quote from: Sardy on September 06, 2010, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 01:26:13 AM
It gets really annoying while boxing with a BD and switch the client every 10th mob because dances are gone...

Haha not only is it annoying, but you are also risking getting banned for using 3rd party software because our good GMs apparently never heard of the old good "macro" feature. You certainly wouldn't be first or last  :D
Also, never gonna happen.

? I'm switching between clients manually, and that should be ok, isn't it?

@onlindeath
This was actually the first reply that helped understanding the issue. Except for your last sentence. I play L2 on private servers since C1 (with breaks in between) but I never played on your so-called "lol pvp servers with 24 hours buffs/disko/+129 weapons and armors", but yeah... flame on.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Sardy on September 06, 2010, 02:01:12 PM
Quote from: Sardy on September 06, 2010, 01:31:55 PM
? I'm switching between clients manually, and that should be ok, isn't it?

We thought and did the very same thing, got banned anyway. Apparently, they are paid for quantity, not quality.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: tombrokaw on September 06, 2010, 02:38:56 PM
@onlinedeath

song/dance duration doesnt effect pvp, its all about cost. since there are so many canceling classes in this server version, any average sws/bd will be regularly re buffing their party. aggression costs zero mp to use, and arrest costs only 34 mp. i wont speak about psycho or sword symphony in open pvp because they are low lv skills and costs a ridiculous amount of mp to use.

@legionx, sardy

boxing a sws/bd on a 2nd or 3rd client and using in-game macros to for example sing/dance and then leave party is allowed as far as im aware.

if you get banned it is for another reason then what i have described above.

@legionx

sorry but i think editing the duration of buff timers is a terrible idea, and i cant be asked to explain why.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: dental on September 06, 2010, 02:43:45 PM
Quote from: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 11:44:25 AM
Wow guys... like a request for a slight increase in dance/song duration would come ANY close to some random "omg add absolute easy mode to the game" begging.

I'm just asking to minimize an imo slight strain in the game, not for GMs to put everything in my inventory and ding me 85 instantly.

And if you disagree with someone, there are much more mature ways of doing that instead of lol-trolling around. You could actually bring arguments for example, too so that I may be convinced, that it's better the way it is now.

But yeah... I kinda see the next trolling-wave coming so whatever...

Sad, but this is what gaming community consist mostly nowadays -  nolife-lolforumtroll-kids.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 03:23:08 PM
Thanks for the information dirtpipemlkshk  :)

However....

Ok well good that I didn't triple-box already. So let me get this straight before I get banned for doing sth. bad that I wasn't aware of.

Example:
I have 3 clients running. 1 SH, 1 BD and 1 SE. BD and SE follow the SH. All in party. I play the SH and kill the mobs while my other 2 chars only get the xp and run behind my main. When out of Dances/out of mana I sit down with my SH and switch over to the BD and SE and rebuff/recharge.

Is that allowed?
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: tombrokaw on September 06, 2010, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: dirtpipemlkshk on September 06, 2010, 02:38:56 PM
@legionx, sardy

boxing a sws/bd on a 2nd or 3rd client and using in-game macros to for example sing/dance and then leave party is allowed as far as im aware.

if you get banned it is for another reason then what i have described above.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 03:26:09 PM
Alright.

What would macros do btw? Apart from trading, I never used macros before. Does it bring some advantages while dual/triple-boxing?
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Sardy on September 06, 2010, 03:45:05 PM
Quote from: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 03:26:09 PM
Alright.

What would macros do btw? Apart from trading, I never used macros before. Does it bring some advantages while dual/triple-boxing?

If you mean the ingame macros, they'll do whatever you put in those 12 lines of commands you have there and they will be executed after you trigger the macro. e.g., they will dance all dances you put in there and will follow you main you have /attack there and will leave the party you have /leave at the end. you still have to accept the party manually a press the associated shortcut, of course.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Vertea on September 06, 2010, 05:30:25 PM
Lol, srsly man, u r playing since C1 and never heard of macros? Even on private serverts they're useful i guess. Moreover, if u play few years, why do u come up with an idea to change d/s duration TEN times on retail like server?
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 05:57:29 PM
I played on a private server called ROFAL2 back in the days and after that it were L2Hobby and L2Extreme low Rate (maybe someone still knows them). Dances were 10 minutes as I can recall, so I never had it any other way.

Macros, of course I heard of them. But I never saw a greater use for them than trade-shouting. Yeah they can make you 1-click all dances and stuff, but well... guess I'm the type of guy who does things manually more often.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Ennis on September 07, 2010, 01:27:15 AM
Some people plays since C1 and still knows nothing about the game, other started at CT and know a lot, it seems.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: satanko on September 09, 2010, 12:33:57 PM
Quote from: LegionX on September 06, 2010, 05:57:29 PM
I played on a private server called ROFAL2 back in the days and after that it were L2Hobby and L2Extreme low Rate (maybe someone still knows them). Dances were 10 minutes as I can recall, so I never had it any other way.

Macros, of course I heard of them. But I never saw a greater use for them than trade-shouting. Yeah they can make you 1-click all dances and stuff, but well... guess I'm the type of guy who does things manually more often.
rofal was like 6 years ago
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: LegionX on September 09, 2010, 12:47:30 PM
and?   :P
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: socketk on September 09, 2010, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: Ennis on September 07, 2010, 01:27:15 AM
Some people plays since C1 and still knows nothing about the game, other started at CT and know a lot, it seems.
yep like XSTRAFE...  ::)
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: kornez on September 09, 2010, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: socketk on September 09, 2010, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: Ennis on September 07, 2010, 01:27:15 AM
Some people plays since C1 and still knows nothing about the game, other started at CT and know a lot, it seems.
yep like XSTRAFE...  ::)
no1 care about u and ur posts, stop lf attention, and pay more 100$s for game :<
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: socketk on September 09, 2010, 08:57:34 PM
Quote from: kornez on September 09, 2010, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: socketk on September 09, 2010, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: Ennis on September 07, 2010, 01:27:15 AM
Some people plays since C1 and still knows nothing about the game, other started at CT and know a lot, it seems.
yep like XSTRAFE...  ::)
no1 care about u and ur posts, stop lf attention, and pay more 100$s for game :<
who paid $100 for game?
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: iKiu ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on September 10, 2010, 01:20:56 PM
*cough* you? *cough*
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: satanko on September 10, 2010, 06:12:21 PM
Quote from: LegionX on September 09, 2010, 12:47:30 PM
and?   :P
means u took a fucking big break from game and you should read some online guides instead of bumpin topics like this where only few will actually answer u decently specially after making topic like u did
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: LegionX on September 10, 2010, 07:53:08 PM
Yeah, because ROFAL2 was my one and only server. And sorry that I didn't list all the tiny servers no one even knows or knew...  ::)

Learn to read.
Seriously? I'm fucking tired of wannabe lectures from guys who don't even grasp what the guy they're attacking said in the first place.

Apart from that, to point out the senselessness of your post:
No one is gonna write about dance duration or the common effects they have on PvP combat in a guide, because it seems to be basic knowledge (yeah, I got that now).
Knowledge, that a guy who only played on 5 to 7 private servers with ALTERED dance/song durations obviously can't know.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Ennis on September 11, 2010, 04:19:25 AM
Things here are like at retail servers (as far as possible) if you don't like it just quit and go play random L2J servers with 3hs d/s duration. Nothing here will be modified unless you can show solid proof it should be because it's like that at retail.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Vertea on September 11, 2010, 08:57:35 AM
Lol, man, srsly, who cares if u played on 10 or 20 servers? The point is u didnt know the proper duartion of d/s, u didnt know the macro system apart of trade using. And things dont work that way - omagawd lets change A to B and fucking tell me why is it wrong idea. If u want to advise sth YOU r the one that should be interesting in know as much as possbile about that. Writing blablabla and then tell me why blablabla is wrong is rly, rly lame. Srsly, we dont have to teach u how to play l2.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: LegionX on September 11, 2010, 11:21:58 AM
So funny how all of you guys still don't get the idea behind my original post.
I was just wondering about something that I didn't experience that way so far. NOTHING more. No whining or dipshitting about "omagawd gimme L2J with 10000x rates and instant vesper drops" etc. etc.

If you don't like to help other people, just don't spend time answering on their topics. You say that you don't have to teach me anything, but instead you spend your time trying to flame and lol-troll me to death. Yeah, that time's really better spent that way, I agree (...not).

That's even more pathetic than what I did, and you know it.

Topic can be closed btw, since there hasn't been any constructive feedback after Sardy's and dirtpipemlkshk's posts.
Sorry kiddos, go search for another playground to play the evil-anonymous-badass-guy on teh internetz
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: onlindeath on September 11, 2010, 12:54:36 PM
HEY you forgot to include me to the list of ussefull posts  :-\

here is another one

you can close it yourself :)

gl enjoy your stay
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Umcyk on September 11, 2010, 01:20:51 PM
LegionX, stop bumping that topic and go play on ur ROTFL2 server.
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: LegionX on September 11, 2010, 01:52:17 PM
It's at the top anyway cuz no one else is posting in other topics.

Thanks for playin'  :D
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Vertea on September 11, 2010, 09:08:08 PM
Lol, u r srsly acting like u r the only one mature guy over there. Yes, we r all lol-trolling forums and u r the good guy, we r rly bad. Tbh, we DO know the things u have never experienced (guess i havent learnt them lol-trolling forums). The truth is u can know them too, it takes about 30 secs using magic imba google friend... So mby before making such a posts consider confirmation if ur l2 knowledge is good enough?
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: Gezas on September 11, 2010, 09:18:33 PM
Quote from: Vertea on September 11, 2010, 09:08:08 PM
Lol, u r srsly acting like u r the only one mature guy over there. Yes, we r all lol-trolling forums and u r the good guy, we r rly bad. Tbh, we DO know the things u have never experienced (guess i havent learnt them lol-trolling forums). The truth is u can know them too, it takes about 30 secs using magic imba google friend... So mby before making such a posts consider confirmation if ur l2 knowledge is good enough?

actualy it takes few seconds reading skill description, but it's way too hard for some ppl
Title: Re: Dances/Songs Duration
Post by: barr on September 22, 2010, 04:53:52 PM
Quote from: LegionX on September 11, 2010, 01:52:17 PM
It's at the top anyway cuz no one else is posting in other topics.

Thanks for playin'  :D

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