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Title: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 09:51:39 AM
HI.
I have a problem with my enchant skill. I play Ghost hunter lvl 79. I enchant skill critical power for +7 and dagger mastery for critical damage for +7.When I has this skills +1 I give more damage for every stab. I tested in duel,mobs and GK in Giran. Now when I enchant +7 my damage is about 500 dmg small. I think it isn' t normal because I give more dmg(normal  critic+ critical damage).In Giran when I enchant skill +1 I hit GK for  1940 damage now when I have skill +7 I hit for 1445 dmg. Plz repair this formule.  I don't see sense enchant skill.....

Sry for my english.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: Kiu on July 13, 2010, 10:01:08 AM
the dmg is really random...
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 10:29:03 AM
It can critical damage in Angel Slayer is really random? I think  when i enchant this  skill ++++ my dmg =normal critic skill+ cd in enchant skill. I should hit 500 damage more.It is my opinion.I tested in high rate and when i enchant this skill i give more dmg.I think it is bug and admin should be repair this.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 10:35:23 AM
Normal:
Critical Power lvl.7
Increases the power of critical attacks with 406 Power.

When enchant
Critical Power +7 Power
Increases the power of critical attacks with 448 Power. Enchant Power: Increases effectiveness.

Normal:
Dagger Mastery lvl.45
P. Atk. increases by 112.8 when using a dagger. Expertise in using a dagger increases, making it possible to use the dagger more skillfully.

When enchant:
Dagger Mastery +7 Modify Critical
P. Atk. increases by 112.8 when using a dagger. Expertise in using a dagger increases, making it possible to use the dagger more skillfully. Enchant Modify Citical: Increases critical damage by 0.77%


All give more??????No, give small:)
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: MichaelV on July 13, 2010, 11:12:14 AM
Do some tests please and make screens. Do 100 stabs on a target with your dagger char that has this skills enchanted then do another 100 stabs with another dagger char on the same target from the same direction (from the BACK would be best).

Be sure that you have exactly the same race/class, equip (would be best only with the weapon equiped), level and buffs (would be best with no buffs at all). Then we will see if anything is wrong. Thank you.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 11:32:28 AM
All I have this same race/class,lvl, equip,dont use buff.I tested in Giran GK.In both test I use only skills Focus death and mortal strike +7 Time.I hit only back GK,use only backstab.I can make a screens as I just like hitting skills enchants+ 7 but enchant  +1 i cant, beacuse i don't want enchant again (I dont have money to buy Giant Codex).Michel can you tested in high rate RPG server?PLZ
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: Tyhr on July 13, 2010, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: zawad on July 13, 2010, 11:32:28 AM
All I have this same race/class,lvl, equip,dont use buff.I tested in Giran GK.In both test I use only skills Focus death and mortal strike +7 Time.I hit only back GK,use only backstab.I can make a screens as I just like hitting skills enchants+ 7 but enchant  +1 i cant, beacuse i don't want enchant again (I dont have money to buy Giant Codex).Michel can you tested in high rate RPG server?PLZ

dont use it
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 12:13:23 PM
Why I dont use Focus death?
Focus Death
For 2 minutes, decreases user's critical attack rate by 30% and frontal critical damage by 30%. Increases the probability of deadly attack by 60% and rear critical damage by 90%. Requires a dagger.
When i use FD,this skill give me only 90% more dmg in back.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: baho on July 13, 2010, 12:16:49 PM
Dude, are you stupid? Not use it because it can influence results. When ur making a test, u always should use the absolutely minimum required stuff. And using FD is not required and can actually influence the result. Maybe the 2nd time when u tested stabs u didn't hit exactly from back, so the bonus from FD wasn't the same.

And u don't need to delete ur skills, just get another char without enchanted skills. And you can try it on the 1000x server.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 01:06:02 PM
dude if I offend you? just want to know, probably like every player AW.I thought that the fastest and best check is GM.Today about 16 will do another test and presents results. Still maintains its view that the FD is added to the damage in the back and nothing else (not reduce it).Of course, adds 60% chance of entry deadly attack, but not counting this.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: baho on July 13, 2010, 01:22:15 PM
Dude, FD adds or even decreases damage depending on which side u attack from. If on one of ur tests u are not exactly on the back of the char, it will add a smaller bonus, thus completely nullifying ur test.

TESTS ARE DONE WITH MINIMUM INFLUENCE FROM OTHER SKILLS/STUFF! What is it so hard to understand?
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: Kiu on July 13, 2010, 01:27:41 PM
no for test u need full buff with fd , sing / dance and cov!!
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: MichaelV on July 13, 2010, 01:27:59 PM
Here you are, 20 mins of my life wasted. I hope i've made you happy at least:

Without skills enchanted:
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg43.imageshack.us%2Fimg43%2F7909%2Fwithoutg.jpg&hash=e8dc162cec5062a559945c4fc1f185eaec155f32)

With skills enchanted:
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg517.imageshack.us%2Fimg517%2F8003%2Fwithi.jpg&hash=93c6fd48183de76216f73c629935d370cb5c5e72)
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 01:41:43 PM
Remember to read with understanding! When I had these skills for a banged in the back of GK in Giran on the FD and MS, on average about 30 hits (1954, 1924,1916,1956, and sometimes after 3256dmg). Enchants When these two skills at seven, and give 30 hits in the GK in Giran (1424,1485,1464,1452,1443, and sometimes 3056). Damage fell by 500. As if the enchant was acting in the other side, did not increase reduced. That is my feeling.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 01:46:18 PM
Thx Michael for test and sorry for the loss of time. Could you repeat it with focus death, I could sleep peacefully.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: baho on July 13, 2010, 01:56:33 PM
rofl ... the test is more then clear. You reported that those skill enchants are decreasing damage, he showed you that they increase it. If you don't know the game mechanics, don't blame us. Learn the game then come to complain about "not working" stuff.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 02:22:11 PM
CIECIU to this damage should be added 90% to fd beating in the back. For example, to enchant +1 and have fd  you hit(1950 1957 1958 1954) damage. On enchants 7 to fd (2001 1998 1956 2003) is dmg.That is correct. You do not know the daggers, not speak.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: baho on July 13, 2010, 02:30:04 PM
Try phrasing that in english, then we can continue our discussion.
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: baho on July 13, 2010, 02:33:34 PM
Quote from: mouarf
Quote from: baho on July 13, 2010, 02:30:04 PM
phrasing
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Ok, spelling, same sh1t. And please, delete moar replies
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 02:35:50 PM
OMG BAHO  You write beacuese u want more post!!!BAN
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: baho on July 13, 2010, 02:36:22 PM
BAN TEH STICK!!11
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: zawad on July 13, 2010, 02:38:23 PM
Michael if you can test the focus of death? PLZ
Title: Re: BUG ENCHANT SKILL
Post by: Shabaka on July 13, 2010, 02:46:28 PM
Login on test-event server and test what you want.
And yes, in 10 months nobody dont seen this "regular bag"
We all blind.