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Title: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 06:23:51 AM
I've looked at all the tutorials and everything. I just still cant seem to get it right. Either the quality fecks up badly, or the size is massive.. Please someone help me :<
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Forebear on July 05, 2010, 07:38:02 AM
Vegas 7.0?
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: eric on July 05, 2010, 08:16:33 AM
what res
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Dec on July 05, 2010, 11:41:45 AM
lf lame mp3 or any other compresed audio codecks plx
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pel8 on July 05, 2010, 02:07:45 PM
I have problems with the codecs on wun7 for render with mp3 as well
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 03:55:07 PM
1256*864
Vegas 9.0
No problems with audio.

I have like a pretty good quality render, but its gonna make the vid like 700mb for 20minutes. Is that bad? I'm sure it is.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Malicious on July 05, 2010, 04:05:37 PM
Quote from: Pepsi on July 05, 2010, 03:55:07 PM
1256*864
Vegas 9.0
No problems with audio.

o my gosh, flatscreen ress...  :-\

open vegas otions, heres somwhere is option "project properties" ar somthing, ok now fill:
frame rate: 25fps/30fps (leave 30fps at maximum, dont try to make ir more.)
Wight/hight: 1256/864, dont try to change, you cant get better resoliution if your fraps setings filmed at this one (1256/864).
pixel ascpect ratio or somthing like that: 1.000 square.
rotation and etc by default.
Gama :1
rendering quality: best
deinterlace: none
pixels: 32
and remember to mark "start new projects with this setings"
save..

Then start to make your vid, croop and etc.. save and render.

GL.

Quote from: Pepsi on July 05, 2010, 03:55:07 PM
I have like a pretty good quality render, but its gonna make the vid like 700mb for 20minutes. Is that bad? I'm sure it is.

Try change audio codex, but 35mb/min its prety normal size.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Odene on July 05, 2010, 04:34:04 PM
WTS Rendering lessons!! xO

Just do it like that ale all will be fine ;)
http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117688
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 04:38:06 PM
As I said I've done all guides, and still got bad results.
As for the project settings I'm fine with that. Its just the rendering settings.
And this test render I did was without audio :/ (10 second footage was 6mb)

Edit: With audio has the same size.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Malicious on July 05, 2010, 04:42:31 PM
screen your project setings.

btw, which format for file you choosing?
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 04:50:27 PM
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg716.imageshack.us%2Fimg716%2F9186%2Fprojectsettings.png&hash=73c808cad2cea1bb37234bbcbdce94d01bd6530c)

.wmv seems to be best.
Whenever I try the old XViD Mpeg-4 option. It not only takes years to render, but comes out looking the same as the .wmv, but larger size.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Odene on July 05, 2010, 05:01:07 PM
U should rly try out the h.264 codec.
It works fine for me on win 7.

I'm guessing that ur problems are made by the sound compresion. When u don't compres audio, the file is getting rly large.
Btw, its normal that SV is rendering a 20min vid for like 4-5h [depends on the codec u use].
So just try to render small parts of ur move to check if its of with the quolity/size.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 05:02:29 PM
I've been rendering a 10 second snippet, just to test. I'll try again with that codec, and I'm on XP  btw.
Lame MP3 just seems to error whenever i try it... so what audio codec should I use?

Also, vegas 9 makes this codec look so much more complicated then on the tutorial... should I just leave everything default? Or.. what? :[

(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg686.imageshack.us%2Fimg686%2F411%2Fcodecd.png&hash=3c52fe372b38bb53132b64c6e3d019bc63a99370)

PS:

Now its saying that this codec does not support the current render settings...
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: ssj on July 05, 2010, 05:17:43 PM
x.264 - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/853450/movie/ppowned.avi (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/853450/movie/ppowned.avi)
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 05:23:59 PM
Omg tell me how to do that! :<
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Sirius92 on July 05, 2010, 05:38:46 PM
x264 is like screwed up totally on 9.0, I've been following Mek's guide and several guides and I get non-quality lost but almost the same file size, I'm using MainConcept AAC and the quality it's really good & I can turn 2.5gb into 180mb.

It's the first time I'm rendering or using any of these programs dunno what the fuck is wrong.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Odene on July 05, 2010, 05:39:23 PM
Ok.. U made me to check my render set up! Gah.. p;

Well, lets begin, so when u render a movie, u can do it in 2 ways. I checked many guides and did 2 setups that works for me fine.

1) U have to render it twice, 1pass and 2pass [it takes hell long, but the size is rly good
2) Render it ABR, i render it once, but i will get a bigger size, like 60 mega on a 500 mega vid

I don't haver much time so I'll just make screens of my render set up, and just try it out ;)
This time we'll use the ABR type of render.
http://img153.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=58814833.jpg
Save the video as .avi
Ofc change the frame rate for that w00t u like ;)

ps. Don't switch anything on the x 264 analysis~ and rate~ config.


@Ninjaedit: I'm using SV 8
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 05:45:58 PM
The selected codec does not support these render settings.
Sigh..
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 05:48:48 PM
I tried to render uncompressed and the video doesn't show up, just the audio..
Any ideas?

P.S. I think I got it, nevermind..
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Odene on July 05, 2010, 05:57:01 PM
U rendered it 1pass ? ;)
If u won't compres the audio, the movie will be much bigger then is should be..

But still I don't get it why it don't work for u...

Ok, another idea, try to do it the exact same way as on my settings, this way we will find out if just the frame size don't work, or ur sv9/codeks are fucked up ;)

@Edit: What was the problem ? ;>
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 06:01:37 PM
Even with ur reso i get same error.
Atm im trying to render uncompressed in vegas and compress in virtualdub. But the files turn out to be 2x the size from virtual dub.. :/ And bad quality..
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Odene on July 05, 2010, 06:10:07 PM
If my render set up is blowing a error, I'm 100% siure that u got smt fucked up on the softwere..
Guess SV9, but the codeks can also be wrong..
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 06:11:59 PM
Whats the best sony vegas? Ill try to download it before I start editing.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Odene on July 05, 2010, 06:14:22 PM
I'm working on SV8, dunno w00t is the best one.. p;
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 06:16:54 PM
im downloading 5, im sure that was good.
Ok now i compressed 10 seconds with h264 and my fraps is so light and has strange flickering dark bits
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Odene on July 05, 2010, 06:43:48 PM
On my  set up..
http://www.filefront.com/16968763/NTC%20TEST%20H264.avi
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: n0click on July 05, 2010, 06:54:21 PM
if u have high resolution --> mucho mb , just use x264 as codec , i've made like 2-3 movies with 1680x1050 always had 700-800 mb for 20-23 mb , so u cant do smth better than 700 for sure
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 05, 2010, 09:02:20 PM
I cant get that codec to work.. I guess it will just have to be a huge file with wmv..
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: losiakus on July 05, 2010, 10:16:25 PM
Nice movie incomming?
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: n0click on July 05, 2010, 10:44:14 PM
Quote from: Pepsi on July 05, 2010, 09:02:20 PM
I cant get that codec to work.. I guess it will just have to be a huge file with wmv..

just install klm codec pack or so :D and mark h264 or x264 , or u can make it avi it will have 1 gb and after u open it with avidemux and u make it in 20 mins with codec x264 from avidemux at half :D simple
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: eric on July 06, 2010, 05:42:11 AM
using x264vfw:

use 2600-2700 for bit rate, the rest of the settings you should know

render with multi-pass (multi-pass - 1st pass for the first time, multi-pass - nth pass for the second time, overwrite the old file when you're doing second pass)

there are 2 primary reasons that generates the incorrect render settings error:

1. resolution: i don't remember the exact numbers but i think the width and height have to be divisible by 16
2. wrong version of x264vfw, if you installed the 64-bit version, try using the 32-bit version instead. and vice versa
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: venduj on July 06, 2010, 09:34:30 PM
Quote from: Pepsi on July 05, 2010, 03:55:07 PM
1256*864
Vegas 9.0
No problems with audio.

I have like a pretty good quality render, but its gonna make the vid like 700mb for 20minutes. Is that bad? I'm sure it is.
no, it is not
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 09, 2010, 04:44:03 PM
Sigh.. Now when I'm trying to render the entire vid, it just stops at 40%ish with an error "Your running low on virtual memory". But I clearly am not. It says "I should try closing some stuff" but only thing I have only is vegas.. :/
WOW I hate rendering.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Relic on July 09, 2010, 04:56:16 PM
Maybe try to set affinity only on 1 core  ???
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 09, 2010, 04:56:59 PM
How do u do that?
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Relic on July 09, 2010, 05:06:11 PM
Dunno if this will help you ,but it was helping me when pc was constantly shutting down during rendering in sony vegas.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7996/afft.jpg
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: eric on July 09, 2010, 06:15:19 PM
Quote from: Pepsi on July 09, 2010, 04:44:03 PM
Sigh.. Now when I'm trying to render the entire vid, it just stops at 40%ish with an error "Your running low on virtual memory". But I clearly am not. It says "I should try closing some stuff" but only thing I have only is vegas.. :/
WOW I hate rendering.

clean up ur hard drive
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 09, 2010, 06:15:44 PM
my hard drive has like 100gb free.
I'm rendering using a different codec now, and its gotten to 65% so far.. lets pray.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Odene on July 09, 2010, 06:23:54 PM
Well, hope that the vid will be good ;)
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 09, 2010, 06:45:46 PM
Hmm I by mistake highlighted like 20% of the vid.. and took 2 hours to render that.. yay so I'll leave the whole vid to render over night... and hopefully upload it within the next day...(s)...
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 09, 2010, 11:03:16 PM
Sigh...
Exact same error at exact same position... what the fuck do I do?
This is so fucking annoying.

I'm guessing it all boils down to me using 32-bit XP, even though I have rendered every single video previously with no problems.
Sigh... Please someone save the day Q___Q
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: eric on July 10, 2010, 06:01:27 AM
whats generating the error? windows, vegas, or the codec
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 10, 2010, 07:22:42 AM
Well, I changed a few things on my computer, not really sure if they helped anything. But I'm rendering again and its at 58% now. I'm gonna go to bed and wake up in the estimated 5 hours and hope to god it says 100% complete.

Thanks to everyone for helping me.. I'm sorry that I am a rendering noob :D
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: papeles on July 10, 2010, 02:27:32 PM
Quote from: eric on July 10, 2010, 06:01:27 AM
whats generating the error? windows, vegas, or the codec
its a known vegas error. Anyways, all the fixes ppl did didnt work with pepsi QQ
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: elfy on July 10, 2010, 06:33:06 PM
after effects, go.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 10, 2010, 06:42:39 PM
Don't worry, I finally got it. No idea what was wrong tho, just lucky i guess. Or unlucky.
Its uploaded just waiting for my VIP guests to give the OK to post.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: Hater ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on August 07, 2010, 10:19:21 PM
Ok i didnt wanted to open new thread so i will just do it here
when i try to render my movie it always gets 50% and stops with no error  i got the movie rendered but no audio i tried many times and always get it that way looking for solution ty.

Edit: using sony vegas 9.0

Edit2: i just found out its some problem with codec AC-3 ACM so im looking for sugestions about another codec.
Title: Re: Looking for help Rendering in Vegas
Post by: eric on August 08, 2010, 02:52:43 AM
don't compress the audio, it'll only be a few mb larger