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Title: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: SpeedStick on June 05, 2010, 05:56:10 AM
I'm finishing my subclass quest, and I have some doubts about my subclass. Any suggestions?
I Was thiking on paladin ;D
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: madein on June 05, 2010, 10:02:49 AM
Quote from: SpeedStick on June 05, 2010, 05:56:10 AM
I'm finishing my subclass quest, and I have some doubts about my subclass. Any suggestions?
I Was thiking on paladin ;D

Any support for Celestial trigger/Warrior for cp boost/Tank for ud
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: n0click on June 05, 2010, 11:13:33 AM
Warrior - CP
Tank - Mini UD trigger
swm - celestial
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: venduj on June 05, 2010, 11:51:30 AM
reroll on kamael, he has all the stuff mentioned above in one and active skills  ;D
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: Relic on June 05, 2010, 02:36:27 PM
CP is useless for class like EE,since you can heal yourself all the time,its even more useless if you are going for oly .
I would say Cele/UD/Spirit.
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: KnGhtmRe on June 05, 2010, 05:32:50 PM
Quote from: Relic on June 05, 2010, 02:36:27 PM
CP is useless for class like EE,since you can heal yourself all the time,its even more useless if you are going for oly .
I would say CP/UD/Spirit.

u mean celestial/ud/spirit
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: Relic on June 05, 2010, 06:12:31 PM
Quote from: KnGhtmRe on June 05, 2010, 05:32:50 PM
Quote from: Relic on June 05, 2010, 02:36:27 PM
CP is useless for class like EE,since you can heal yourself all the time,its even more useless if you are going for oly .
I would say CP/UD/Spirit.

u mean celestial/ud/spirit
ahh yes :D
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: Lokocz on June 06, 2010, 03:36:08 AM
so having 4.5k cp on healer is useless?
wait....
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: Relic on June 06, 2010, 04:44:03 AM
Quote from: Lokocz on June 06, 2010, 03:36:08 AM
so having 4.5k cp on healer is useless?
wait....
Yes it is quite useless for class which can heal himself for unlimited amount of hp,once that cp will be gone it will take you a while to restore it,not to mention you are healer which makes you primary target quite often,and i doubt enemys will allow you to restore these 4.5k cp's ,after you just got ress.
I wont even talk about all these lethals/backstabs,and lets not forget oly.
Dont get me wrong CP boost is quite awesome for few classes,but for healers it simply sucks.
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: Lokocz on June 06, 2010, 12:41:27 PM
i wouldnt argue about that if there werent any OL's on server and 99% of dds would be daggers....
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: babyface on June 06, 2010, 12:56:25 PM
imo cp is needed for healer...like guy up here says, its not like only dagers here and no ols, there are zerkers there are other dds and nuker, on full buff bnoost cp is like 1-2 more nukes alive
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: myzor on June 06, 2010, 02:05:04 PM
Not to mention that the spirit doesnt seem that good.isnt it a counter trigger skill?  a full buffed ES(aint) will easily reach top casting speeds.
Anyone has info on warrior resist debuff, is it decent or rubish
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: n on June 06, 2010, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: myzor on June 06, 2010, 02:05:04 PM
Not to mention that the spirit doesnt seem that good.isnt it a counter trigger skill?  a full buffed ES(aint) will easily reach top casting speeds.
Anyone has info on warrior resist debuff, is it decent or rubish
you cant get even close to top casting speed unless you use enlightement while fullbuffed.
yes, summoner spirit is a trigger and its pretty useful when some cancelstick user is sitting on you

warrior resist debuff is a trash, as far as i know.
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: Relic on June 06, 2010, 05:39:01 PM
Quote from: Lokocz on June 06, 2010, 12:41:27 PM
i wouldnt argue about that if there werent any OL's on server and 99% of dds would be daggers....
Ok how many times in a day you are running around with 3-4 OL's behind you,restoring all the time cp ? 
Quote from: babyface on June 06, 2010, 12:56:25 PM
imo cp is needed for healer...like guy up here says, its not like only dagers here and no ols, there are zerkers there are other dds and nuker, on full buff bnoost cp is like 1-2 more nukes alive
How 730+ cp will help you to resist zerkers ? i wont even talk about nukers which hit like trucks on anything what is moving.
Quote from: myzor on June 06, 2010, 02:05:04 PM
Not to mention that the spirit doesnt seem that good.isnt it a counter trigger skill?  a full buffed ES(aint) will easily reach top casting speeds.
Anyone has info on warrior resist debuff, is it decent or rubish
It triggers when you got hitted,you are healer you are getting hitted all the time,it increase m.attack and cast speed by 8% ,more casting/mattack =more heals,more mp drained higher chance to land debufs etc etc.
And like nab said there is no way you will get even close to max casting speed w/o using zerks/enlightment and such crap,not to mention s80 set doesnt give you any +wit ,which means - casting speed compared to dc set.

Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: Gezas on June 07, 2010, 03:58:51 AM
as far as i remember boe(83 ee skill)  restores cp, so no reason not to take cp boost, as well you won't always have enough buff slots for one more trigger like summoner spirit,so another +1 for taking cp boost instead of spirit
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: KnGhtmRe on June 07, 2010, 06:53:29 AM
Quote from: Gezas on June 07, 2010, 03:58:51 AM
as far as i remember boe(83 ee skill)  restores cp, so no reason not to take cp boost, as well you won't always have enough buff slots for one more trigger like summoner spirit,so another +1 for taking cp boost instead of spirit
boe reuse is what? 30 min?
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: Elohai on June 07, 2010, 07:59:31 AM
Afaik spirit is an active skill e.g. it triggers when you attack, no ?
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: M1st on June 07, 2010, 10:07:23 AM
Quote from: SeXeH on June 07, 2010, 07:59:31 AM
Afaik spirit is an active skill e.g. it triggers when you attack, no ?
it triggers when you under attack
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: Elohai on June 07, 2010, 06:05:59 PM
since when ?
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: ssj on June 07, 2010, 06:42:06 PM
PS,ES,Warlock are best 3 subs for EE
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: hello on June 07, 2010, 07:20:59 PM
Quote from: KnGhtmRe on June 07, 2010, 06:53:29 AM
Quote from: Gezas on June 07, 2010, 03:58:51 AM
as far as i remember boe(83 ee skill)  restores cp, so no reason not to take cp boost, as well you won't always have enough buff slots for one more trigger like summoner spirit,so another +1 for taking cp boost instead of spirit
boe reuse is what? 30 min?

15 minutes and so what, you will still get to use it every oly match so i honestly dont see any reason why not to take CP, as in outside olympiad there's cp pots
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: Relic on June 07, 2010, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: hello on June 07, 2010, 07:20:59 PM
Quote from: KnGhtmRe on June 07, 2010, 06:53:29 AM
Quote from: Gezas on June 07, 2010, 03:58:51 AM
as far as i remember boe(83 ee skill)  restores cp, so no reason not to take cp boost, as well you won't always have enough buff slots for one more trigger like summoner spirit,so another +1 for taking cp boost instead of spirit
boe reuse is what? 30 min?

15 minutes and so what, you will still get to use it every oly match so i honestly dont see any reason why not to take CP, as in outside olympiad there's cp pots
Its 30 minutes.
http://www.lineage2.com/news/graciafinal_05.html
Changes to existing skills, point 7.
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: hello on June 07, 2010, 09:28:09 PM
must've mistaken it with some other skill then, was pretty sure it was 15

oh well, either way, no matter the reuse, boe will still restore your cp in oly and outside ull have cp pots and having 700 extra cp isnt bad at all
Title: Re: Wich Subclas for Eva Saint
Post by: KnGhtmRe on June 08, 2010, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: hello on June 07, 2010, 09:28:09 PM
must've mistaken it with some other skill then, was pretty sure it was 15

oh well, either way, no matter the reuse, boe will still restore your cp in oly and outside ull have cp pots and having 700 extra cp isnt bad at all

any amount of extra CP is good. but as robes are targeted first in any pvp, those 700+ cp will count only at the begining of the fight. after that, you almost never have full cp. imo getting smth else (like summoner spirit, or even a passive m.def) would be better than cp