It is opened but it shouldn't! Please close it or if you don't know how to fix it just remove NPC Allenos and nobody can enter any more unless you fix it
normally it is opened only if some clan kills Tiat (i think five times or more in row) but it is impossible to kill such raid now so it is major bug
proof?
ETC farm this seed themself, as i know :) Btw, this could be caused by killing Tiat when this was a test server.
Quote from: Stoum on October 03, 2009, 01:54:15 PM
this could be caused by killing Tiat when this was a test server.
This ^
GG ETC
Quote from: NullPoint on October 03, 2009, 11:25:16 PM
GG ETC
stop cry and go farm like other half of servur...... this bug has been reported few days ago and some GM know about it...
Quote from: ptsd on October 04, 2009, 12:09:31 AM
Quote from: NullPoint on October 03, 2009, 11:25:16 PM
GG ETC
stop cry and go farm like other half of servur...... this bug has been reported few days ago and some GM know about it...
Like i would give a shit
well it should be fixed asap... it's really a serious issue
Quote from: DoOrDie on October 06, 2009, 12:22:52 AM
well it should be fixed asap... it's really a serious issue
tuat taken over da fortress anyway now
i think GMstaff dont know how to fix it.... how is it working on other RPG RUSSIA servers?
tuat tuat twat?
So, we wait 300 attribute weapon, or maybe it is already.
Quote from: bambam on October 03, 2009, 03:17:55 AM
It is opened but it shouldn't! Please close it or if you don't know how to fix it just remove NPC Allenos and nobody can enter any more unless you fix it
normally it is opened only if some clan kills Tiat (i think five times or more in row) but it is impossible to kill such raid now so it is major bug
got 300 attrib and now wanna get the bug fixed?
lamish imo
Quote from: pandemonium on October 08, 2009, 12:03:01 PM
Quote from: bambam on October 03, 2009, 03:17:55 AM
It is opened but it shouldn't! Please close it or if you don't know how to fix it just remove NPC Allenos and nobody can enter any more unless you fix it
normally it is opened only if some clan kills Tiat (i think five times or more in row) but it is impossible to kill such raid now so it is major bug
got 300 attrib and now wanna get the bug fixed?
lamish imo
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Word.
gms arent reacting on bug reports even on supoprt option on page and also deleting my postst about bugs so GG
spasibo
Quote from: pokemontrainer on October 24, 2009, 04:19:44 PM
gms arent reacting on bug reports even on supoprt option on page and also deleting my postst about bugs so GG
spasibo
Thats one of my reasons why I left this server. Lack of admin activity, low english skills, uninterest in various bugs and doing poitless votes like GM shop, NPC buffer etc. Well, with this position of admins, this server wont be as good as it could be. At least respond Mr. and Mrs. Admin please!
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This wasn't handled very well. Now there's a huge advantage to the people who have attributes to those who don't.
Now if you do shut down (change) seed of destruction, that would be making big unbalance cose of people that are using this "bug" got huge advantage with their weapon that is above 150 element.
i have 150 atribute weapon and i dont care if there are ppl with 300
sod is closed GJ, suddenly its fixed
Quote from: pokemontrainer on October 25, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
i have 150 atribute weapon and i dont care if there are ppl with 300
sod is closed GJ, suddenly its fixed
Ye but rest of your clan got 200-300 atribute and you know it.
Quote from: oldcrew on October 25, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
Quote from: pokemontrainer on October 25, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
i have 150 atribute weapon and i dont care if there are ppl with 300
sod is closed GJ, suddenly its fixed
Ye but rest of your clan got 200-300 atribute and you know it.
No, we didnt and stop cry about it.
Quote from: Jacky on October 25, 2009, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: oldcrew on October 25, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
Quote from: pokemontrainer on October 25, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
i have 150 atribute weapon and i dont care if there are ppl with 300
sod is closed GJ, suddenly its fixed
Ye but rest of your clan got 200-300 atribute and you know it.
No, we didnt and stop cry about it.
Dare to link your weapons? (no need to show atribute offc, and yes already know punisher linked his 150 AS so i am not talking about him once again), is not crying btw is just that is unbalanced, not saying only your clan have this type of weapons. But for new people it does make big difference.
SOD is closed? LOL, GMs are acting weirder by the minute...
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I was like half an hour in SoD, get bored and not came back there anymore.
Quote from: oldcrew on October 25, 2009, 09:14:17 PM
Dare to link your weapons? (no need to show atribute offc, and yes already know punisher linked his 150 AS so i am not talking about him once again), is not crying btw is just that is unbalanced, not saying only your clan have this type of weapons. But for new people it does make big difference.
Sure I will ask whole clan to link weapons here so u can see...NOT, it just 3 or 4 ppl in my clan who has 300 attribute, I am pretty sure, in this case we dont have any advantage against others, since all this shitty clans were farming it like crazy even in full parties. And stop cry finally about our whole clan having 300 atributes in weapons, its hilarious lie.
Quote from: Jacky on October 25, 2009, 09:36:18 PM
Quote from: oldcrew on October 25, 2009, 09:14:17 PM
Dare to link your weapons? (no need to show atribute offc, and yes already know punisher linked his 150 AS so i am not talking about him once again), is not crying btw is just that is unbalanced, not saying only your clan have this type of weapons. But for new people it does make big difference.
Sure I will ask whole clan to link weapons here so u can see...NOT, it just 3 or 4 ppl in my clan who has 300 attribute, I am pretty sure, in this case we dont have any advantage against others, since all this shitty clans were farming it like crazy even in full parties. And stop cry finally about our whole clan having 300 atributes in weapons, its hilarious lie.
since i have nothing to do right now i made pics of mine weapons.
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Quote from: Jacky on October 25, 2009, 09:36:18 PM
it just 3 or 4 ppl in my clan who has 300 attribute
More then enough, my guess is Ozama has +300 wind. Since he hits people from 5k-10k. So yes no advantige, and is 3,4 that you admit that have it who knows how many more does have. And once again is not all about your clan, there is other people who have +300 and i was talking about global how many people will have advantage.
Quote from: oldcrew on October 25, 2009, 11:14:49 PM
Quote from: Jacky on October 25, 2009, 09:36:18 PM
it just 3 or 4 ppl in my clan who has 300 attribute
More then enough, my guess is Ozama has +300 wind. Since he hits people from 5k-10k. So yes no advantige, and is 3,4 that you admit that have it who knows how many more does have. And once again is not all about your clan, there is other people who have +300 and i was talking about global how many people will have advantage.
rofl now you just showed up that you are totaly clueless about how things work. GZ
Quote from: oldcrew on October 25, 2009, 11:14:49 PM
More then enough, my guess is Ozama has +300 wind. Since he hits people from 5k-10k. So yes no advantige, and is 3,4 that you admit that have it who knows how many more does have. And once again is not all about your clan, there is other people who have +300 and i was talking about global how many people will have advantage.
Exactly its not about our clan, thare are more other than our clan who have 300 atribut weapon , so it isnt our advantage for sure, i wouldnt mind if GMs reset all 300 weapons to 150 as it should be and armors from 120 to 60.
polarbears can give here screens about weapons : ))))))))))))))))))) They were there alltime...
half of servur farmed SOD
if u will be resetting guns to 150 also remove attribute crystals and compresseds from inventories,warehouses etc.
Quote from: oldcrew on October 25, 2009, 11:14:49 PM
Quote from: Jacky on October 25, 2009, 09:36:18 PM
it just 3 or 4 ppl in my clan who has 300 attribute
More then enough, my guess is Ozama has +300 wind. Since he hits people from 5k-10k. So yes no advantige, and is 3,4 that you admit that have it who knows how many more does have. And once again is not all about your clan, there is other people who have +300 and i was talking about global how many people will have advantage.
let me laughing my ass out.
u have no clue how attributes workin' right?
on +150 attr u got +71% damage IF the target has ZERO resistance against your attribute(in this case wind).
on +300 attr u got +100%(means from 1k ->2k and so on) dmg IF the target has 0 res against ur attr.
So get S grade armor,boost up some resists and pwn deal with it.
Quote from: oldcrew on October 25, 2009, 11:14:49 PM
Quote from: Jacky on October 25, 2009, 09:36:18 PM
it just 3 or 4 ppl in my clan who has 300 attribute
my guess is Ozama has +300 wind. Since he hits people from 5k-10k.
He is TEH BEAST.
Quote from: pandemonium on October 26, 2009, 02:52:27 AM
let me laughing my ass out.
u have no clue how attributes workin' right?
on +150 attr u got +71% damage IF the target has ZERO resistance against your attribute(in this case wind).
on +300 attr u got +100%(means from 1k ->2k and so on) dmg IF the target has 0 res against ur attr.
So get S grade armor,boost up some resists and pwn deal with it.
It doesn't add +100% Damage with 300 Attribute you genius.
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http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122599
Quote from: Lionna on October 26, 2009, 09:57:40 AM
Quote from: pandemonium on October 26, 2009, 02:52:27 AM
let me laughing my ass out.
u have no clue how attributes workin' right?
on +150 attr u got +71% damage IF the target has ZERO resistance against your attribute(in this case wind).
on +300 attr u got +100%(means from 1k ->2k and so on) dmg IF the target has 0 res against ur attr.
So get S grade armor,boost up some resists and pwn deal with it.
It doesn't add +100% Damage with 300 Attribute you genius.
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http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122599
hi,u can test it urself its more like a pts than the normal retail files..
http://www.pirateninjas.net/lineage2/gracia-final-early-element-attribute-reports/#more-224
but hey,i doubt normally i do 2.4k /hit on oly with lolsh(if i count on your story).
I won't quote you because it would look huge so I'll just point out something to you.
Ignore the chart for a second and look at what comes underneath.
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1,6210
20,6685
300,12347
Now I'm going to use the hits per attribute point because they're more specific.
Anyone can see that the 300 hit for 12.3k is pretty damn close to double the base hit of 6.2k.
The chart and the hits per point don't match up and when it comes to dealing with facts you use the more precise measurements. I don't know if he's gone back and edited one set of data and not the other but that post pretty much backs up the claim that it's double damage.
GG Lionna. When trying to seriously prove someone wrong and provide data you self own yourself.
Quote from: Hildr on October 26, 2009, 03:47:39 PM
I won't quote you because it would look huge so I'll just point out something to you.
Ignore the chart for a second and look at what comes underneath.
Quote
1,6210
20,6685
300,12347
Now I'm going to use the hits per attribute point because they're more specific.
Anyone can see that the 300 hit for 12.3k is pretty damn close to double the base hit of 6.2k.
The chart and the hits per point don't match up and when it comes to dealing with facts you use the more precise measurements. I don't know if he's gone back and edited one set of data and not the other but that post pretty much backs up the claim that it's double damage.
GG Lionna. When trying to seriously prove someone wrong and provide data you self own yourself.
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YES COS LOGIC =/= MAD TO ETC
LOL
Set all 150+ weaps to 150 and 60+ armors to 60 :)
Quote from: Live on October 26, 2009, 04:18:22 PM
Set all 150+ weaps to 150 and 60+ armors to 60 :)
and remove all Crystals and all Compresed, u forgot
Or open sod for everyone but ETC !!!!
Quote from: Hildr on October 26, 2009, 04:41:49 PM
Or open sod for everyone but ETC !!!!
yes, i like that. xD 2all - spam support, it'll have result.
Quote from: pandemonium on October 26, 2009, 04:07:11 PM
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Im really mad (
Quote from: Hildr on October 26, 2009, 04:09:37 PM
YES COS LOGIC =/= MAD TO ETC
LOL
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Quote from: Lionna on October 26, 2009, 04:50:37 PM
Quote from: pandemonium on October 26, 2009, 04:07:11 PM
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Im really mad (
Quote from: Hildr on October 26, 2009, 04:09:37 PM
YES COS LOGIC =/= MAD TO ETC
LOL
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keep googlin' those funny(...NOT) images instead of giving a hand and admit u failed at this topic,yea.
DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU GET LIONNA. DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU MESS WITH THE WARRRIORRR.
wat warrior? Go back in your Cave BR kid =/
can`t believe what im going to write :
Lionna is right. Just admit it, his data is correct + ptsd is right about the removal if this is a bug (not sure im newbie in gracian stuff)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTngBI51gJc
Quote from: valandril on October 26, 2009, 05:14:50 PM
can`t believe what im going to write :
Lionna is right. Just admit it, his data is correct + ptsd is right about the removal if this is a bug (not sure im newbie in gracian stuff)
Ok. Now go back and read what I wrote. There is a larger proportion of data AGAINST what he says and proving that 300 element vs 0 is indeed very close to double damage.
for 150+ atr need 10 tiat kills i think they don`t do that...
a lot ppl farm there soo i guess u should think about fix it :)
Still the +300 weapons only deal around 30% more than 150 and the only breakpoint is at 300 so gl farming for crystals.
You all think Admins are so stupid to close it at this moment ? if they DO iam sure they wil loose alot of players and they know it.
Quote from: Keto on October 28, 2009, 12:05:28 AM
You all think Admins are so stupid to close it at this moment ? if they DO iam sure they wil loose alot of players and they know it.
its already closed,so : o
new sig
Quoteits already closed,so
so ... GF ;D
soo open again ;x
If they indeed closed it, it would be a good ideea te remove the elemental crystalls from ppl and weapons. It's quite an advantage for those that made it to 300 on weapons.
Quote from: baho on October 28, 2009, 09:34:25 AM
If they indeed closed it, it would be a good ideea te remove the elemental crystalls from ppl and weapons. It's quite an advantage for those that made it to 300 on weapons.
iff ppls spend lot time to farm it, or spend lot money to buy it, and you say now to delete from it? ;D
Quote from: Lender on October 28, 2009, 10:33:15 AM
Quote from: baho on October 28, 2009, 09:34:25 AM
If they indeed closed it, it would be a good ideea te remove the elemental crystalls from ppl and weapons. It's quite an advantage for those that made it to 300 on weapons.
iff ppls spend lot time to farm it, or spend lot money to buy it, and you say now to delete from it? ;D
It was a bug, people knew that this is a bug. They did take the risk to invest time/money into it. If the Admin deletes the items from SOD, than they did lose their investment. Like so many times in life.
Btw attribute was partly removed (200+ to 200, as i know) Gz all ;)
I had 300 attribute .. now got 200 but I think Its the best way anyway to solve it ;)
i had 195, hope they made it to 200 :P
So, ppl have 300 and got a cap to 200
And ppl with 195 dont have a cap?
Totally fair don't? :D
And the armors with 100+ elements on it? Caps on then too?
Should've been made 150 ... now ppl which had over 200 (like the guy above) will QQ that the guys who had between 150-200 weren't affected by this decission and it's not fair. It's not to late, it can still be done :).
Edit: come to think of it, why not 150? Why 200? So that players won't QQ to much? It was their risk when they decided to invest their time there.
You say that is not fair ? And decreased from 300 to 200 Its fair ? (around 3 weeks to made from 200 to 300)
I lost 100 attribute in weapon but iam sure its the best way.
And ppl that never went to SoD
That make elements just buying and trading on giran?
You can see a lot of then...
One adena 'refund' for then?
Have no ideia how to solve it without 'fuking' smdy...
well,im afraid about armors more than weapons coz 120 resists on armors(instead of 60 from normal stones) still playing,and weapon attr.-s dont have boost from 150 till 300,so gf =)
Quote from: pandemonium on October 28, 2009, 05:01:36 PM
and weapon attr.-s dont have boost from 150 till 300,so gf =)
Ur wrong
Quote from: Stoum on October 28, 2009, 11:59:03 AM
Btw attribute was partly removed (200+ to 200, as i know) Gz all ;)
Not THE BEST SOLUTION, but still, nice to see some of our whining is heard by admins/GMs :)
Good job!
now fix herozerk
ok u nerfed atributes now remove all crystals and compreseds
here comes the qq
fix dem hero zerk already!