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Title: spoil (1-2)
Post by: piot on March 25, 2010, 05:37:24 PM
lots of mobs should spoil from 1 to 2 mats  but all you get is 1
will it be fixed with new spoil rates ?
after the changes it should be like 5-10
examples:
Grave Predator should drop 1-2 steel
Liele Elder should drop 1-2 stone of purity
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: MichaelV on March 25, 2010, 07:29:33 PM
Yes, it should be 5-10 when it will be changed.
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: ENko on March 27, 2010, 10:58:35 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 25, 2010, 07:29:33 PM
Yes, it should be 5-10 when it will be changed.

when it will be changed ?
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: MichaelV on March 27, 2010, 01:53:17 PM
Quote from: ENko on March 27, 2010, 10:58:35 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 25, 2010, 07:29:33 PM
Yes, it should be 5-10 when it will be changed.

when it will be changed ?
This coming week.
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: Mercenary on March 30, 2010, 01:14:43 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 25, 2010, 07:29:33 PM
This coming week.

This coming week means this week already or the next week please ?
Thanks, bye.
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: Riv on March 30, 2010, 01:50:15 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 27, 2010, 01:53:17 PMcoming
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: Deathwish on March 30, 2010, 02:13:26 PM
Quote from: Riv on March 30, 2010, 01:50:15 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 27, 2010, 01:53:17 PMcoming
aka "next week"
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: MichaelV on March 30, 2010, 05:04:15 PM
It SHOULD be this week, same as it should have been last week but because of the recent problems it has been postponed. I can't promise u anything cause admin din't promised me anything also but i really hope it's done this week (that's the idea right now).
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: Mercenary on March 30, 2010, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on March 30, 2010, 05:04:15 PM
It SHOULD be this week, same as it should have been last week but because of the recent problems it has been postponed. I can't promise u anything cause admin din't promised me anything also but i really hope it's done this week (that's the idea right now).

ok, thanks a lot for at least this information :)
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: Kiu on April 06, 2010, 07:19:31 AM
this next coming week. which part cant you get?!!   :D
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: BackfromDead on April 08, 2010, 12:10:26 AM
when c5 clan system goes in!
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: Deathwish on April 08, 2010, 11:24:41 AM
"This coming week.", read this topic every week and everything will be fine with ETA :D
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: Legoz on April 15, 2010, 09:05:35 PM
thread started 25 march. 15 april atm.

almost 3 weeks has passed (since this topic, becoz the x5 spoil rate was promissed since begining) so in total 3+ months has passed.. ppl is getting pissed m8, better u speak whit head admin soon.

MV: who promised you x5 spoil rate from the start? Don't confuse us with other servers. Spoil was announced from before the start as being "Spoil: chance x3, amount x1" and the decision to be changed has been made because of the player complaints. You played like this until now, i'm sure u can take it a little more until it's changed.
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: Legoz on April 16, 2010, 01:52:12 AM
not rly MV, we cant wait anymore.
u know i lead a clan, i have 5 hours free on weekdays (due I HAVE TO WORK), and i dont wanna waste those 5 hours for just spoil 400 -600 sops.

and btw, yes it was x3:x1 but it was changed a little after server start becouse the players "complaints".

And dont come whit the excuse "its free, if u wanna u can leave" becoz i pushed 40+ players to come here. And btw, if u have experience on forums like u say, go check azure forums, celes server were rly cool, but c5 clan system fucked everything and every1 left after 4-5 months. check around here, not just me complaining about it, almost every1 do, and even WORST ppl comparing the shit (the promissed spoil rate) whit the promissed c5 clan system on celes (and taking the "next week" like a joke, same like happened whit celes game masters).

btw whit rates like this, is close to retail, me + my whole team have chars on retail lv 79+ whit at least S / S80, if we wanna waste 5 hours spoiling 400 sops, we better do there...
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as i said and i repeat, ppl is getting pissed bro, dont take it like an aggresion, take it like a player that is getting pissed off (like many, but most of them dont say a shit and quit instead of talk, anyway most of the ppl, like me, ATM stay on the server becoz the gr8 competition).
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: sNd ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on April 16, 2010, 04:20:29 AM
just be cool and drop/buy mats, its enough by far if you got a constant grp :<
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: MichaelV on April 16, 2010, 10:22:53 AM
Your wall of text overwhelmed me Legoz. I'll be as short as possible.
First of all, just to be crystal clear about 1 important thing: there is only one admin that handles the modifications to the files.
Spoil change was announced ~3 weeks ago (with no promised eta, and i specifically said it), just before the dupe incident. And since then he had a lot of problems, either related to the server but more important then the spoil change, or real life. You're getting pissed off because he prioritized other stuff before the spoil change? Too bad for you then...

And as a P.S. the current spoil rates are not as unbalanced as you might think. With the 3x chance you can look at the spoil something like this:
-perfectly balanced for items with 33,(3)% chance or less on x1
-acceptable for items with chance between 33,34% and 66,(6)% on x1
-unbalanced for items with chance 66,67% and above
If u want, we can go into detailed specifics about this but it's not worth it as it should be changed soon. You already got the 1-5 amount drop change.
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: pokemontrainer on April 16, 2010, 10:37:37 AM
Quote from: MichaelV on April 16, 2010, 10:22:53 AM
Your wall of text overwhelmed me Legoz. I'll be as short as possible.
First of all, just to be crystal clear about 1 important thing: there is only one admin that handles the modifications to the files.
Spoil change was announced ~3 weeks ago (with no promised eta, and i specifically said it), just before the dupe incident. And since then he had a lot of problems, either related to the server but more important then the spoil change, or real life. You're getting pissed off because he prioritized other stuff before the spoil change? Too bad for you then...

And as a P.S. the current spoil rates are not as unbalanced as you might think. With the 3x chance you can look at the spoil something like this:
-perfectly balanced for items with 33,(3)% chance or less on x1
-acceptable for items with chance between 33,34% and 66,(6)% on x1
-unbalanced for items with chance 66,67% and above
If u want, we can go into detailed specifics about this but it's not worth it as it should be changed soon. You already got the 1-5 amount drop change.

thats why ppl dont have equip :) cuase its balanced
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: culinko on April 16, 2010, 10:45:31 AM
what are spoil and drop rates at this moment for both mats and keys?
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: MichaelV on April 16, 2010, 11:27:55 AM
Quote from: pokemontrainer on April 16, 2010, 10:37:37 AM
thats why ppl dont have equip :) cuase its balanced
Do you have reading comprehension problems? Read again please.
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: culinko on April 16, 2010, 01:51:16 PM
shouldn't it be like:

drop keys, rcps - chance x5, amount x1
drop mats - chance x1, amount x5
spoil keys, rcps - chance x5, amount x1
spoil mats - chance x1, amount x5

now (for mats, dunno bout keys):

drop - chance x5, amount x1-5
spoil - chance x5, amount x1-2

are those the final rates or not?
Title: Re: spoil (1-2)
Post by: piot on April 16, 2010, 03:05:12 PM
what ?