I haven't played on a low-rate server since C4. I have played though on many high-rate servers of newer chronicles (Hellbound, Gracia Final/Epilogue, Freya, Hi5), so I already know all the basic stuff such as attribute system, new skills, Kamaels etc.
My problem is that I don't know anything about the end-game, 80lvl ++. I know nothing about Hellbound, neither about Gracia, or how to farm S80,S84 items and attribute stones/crystals.
Another problem of mine is that I have weird playing hours cause of college and work and it is impossible for me to find a cp.
Is it possible to do anything solo? Or at least with a boxed bd + buffer?
I would be grateful for any kind of information or tips, I really need somebody's help and opinion.
P.S.: I will probably be playing a Duelist, or maybe a GK.
play mage with box se or destro/tyrant with wc box
Will I ever be able to touch Hellbound without a full party?
Yea and no
U can make party with randoms so yes and no because u canot solo not even at juniors but u can solo at the 1st mobs but is kinda waste of time . ;)
Isn't it hard finding randoms?
I am bored like hell so...
After HB will be open i believe it will be locked down for few weeks by strong clans so... Later of course there will be people making random partys and u can exp with them, mobs at start drops dark stones, in uper part of HB there are chimeras which drops all kind of atri stones...good for you. But for farm items for dynasty u need Premium Caravan Certificate which is a bit hard to get and i doubt that some random party will farm it for you.
Graci hm? Well on gracia there are seeds which i think u already know.
Seed of infinity - There is instance where u can go with party. U need to finish instance fast as possible to get best reward. U can get there S grade weps/armors and some books for skills (for 81 lvl i guess) or u can get nothing, just exp :)
Seed of Destruction - Another instance with raid boss Tiat in the end. He drops Icarus and Vesper weps but u need mucho ppl for that so forget about it. BUT... When Tiat die 10 times, SOD is opened for everyone. It becomes smth like dungeon where u can farm ECS (from ecs u can craft atribute crystals). U should make some alt char just for sod farm cuz usualy its locked and u will be pked all the time. I always farmed it at very early morning when all normal and inteligent people sleep. Its very good way to make adena.
U should also make alt char for KE (Knight Epauletes) farm. Its item droped by guards in every fort which is in siege state. U can buy GCM for them or just sell it. Also very good way to make adena. i farmed it often and made enough adena for vesper weps.
If u will have problem with exp later there will be people selling power exp so its another option. Thats all in shortcut, i hope it helped a bit. Just play if u want to play.
Quote from: Shattered on September 12, 2012, 07:06:28 PM
I am bored like hell so...
After HB will be open i believe it will be locked down for few weeks by strong clans so... Later of course there will be people making random partys and u can exp with them, mobs at start drops dark stones, in uper part of HB there are chimeras which drops all kind of atri stones...good for you. But for farm items for dynasty u need Premium Caravan Certificate which is a bit hard to get and i doubt that some random party will farm it for you.
Graci hm? Well on gracia there are seeds which i think u already know.
Seed of infinity - There is instance where u can go with party. U need to finish instance fast as possible to get best reward. U can get there S grade weps/armors and some books for skills (for 81 lvl i guess) or u can get nothing, just exp :)
Seed of Destruction - Another instance with raid boss Tiat in the end. He drops Icarus and Vesper weps but u need mucho ppl for that so forget about it. BUT... When Tiat die 10 times, SOD is opened for everyone. It becomes smth like dungeon where u can farm ECS (from ecs u can craft atribute crystals). U should make some alt char just for sod farm cuz usualy its locked and u will be pked all the time. I always farmed it at very early morning when all normal and inteligent people sleep. Its very good way to make adena.
U should also make alt char for KE (Knight Epauletes) farm. Its item droped by guards in every fort which is in siege state. U can buy GCM for them or just sell it. Also very good way to make adena. i farmed it often and made enough adena for vesper weps.
If u will have problem with exp later there will be people selling power exp so its another option. Thats all in shortcut, i hope it helped a bit. Just play if u want to play.
Regarding KE, what lvl should the alt char be and how am I supposed to go to fortress sieges by my self?
Should I go WC or SE+haste pots for stigma?
Having a boxed BD too is overkill?
For farm ke u need smth around 64 lvl i think. Make clan for your alts and with that clan register for atack fort of your clan. Siege will start in hour, destroy gate and kill guards. I farmed it with BD + wolf and boxed cov. And yeah i forgot... Make wolf at start and exp him, it will become your very strong partner later :) Fck SE...go for COV for sure.
Quote from: Mrkiller on September 12, 2012, 06:40:11 PM
Yea and no
U can make party with randoms so yes and no because u canot solo not even at juniors but u can solo at the 1st mobs but is kinda waste of time . ;)
loled, not even endgame there are classes that can easy solo junior spots :)
titan/gk/pk even TH as benc did, luring 1 by 1 GS mobs and killing them on oasis side, with 3 boxes i was doing there fine with HK... fairly farmed glad can kill chimeras 1by1, same as warlord with proper boxes
but yeah, for more "random" player its kinda hard
Quote from: miou on September 12, 2012, 07:30:38 PM
Quote from: Mrkiller on September 12, 2012, 06:40:11 PM
Yea and no
U can make party with randoms so yes and no because u canot solo not even at juniors but u can solo at the 1st mobs but is kinda waste of time . ;)
loled, not even endgame there are classes that can easy solo junior spots :)
titan/gk/pk even TH as benc did, luring 1 by 1 GS mobs and killing them on oasis side, with 3 boxes i was doing there fine with HK... fairly farmed glad can kill chimeras 1by1, same as warlord with proper boxes
but yeah, for more "random" player its kinda hard
What chars were your 3 boxes?
pp83, bd, sws
Quote from: miou on September 12, 2012, 07:39:13 PM
pp83, bd, sws
Did you have them assisting you or just on follow?
Quote from: Shattered on September 12, 2012, 07:15:21 PM
For farm ke u need smth around 64 lvl i think. Make clan for your alts and with that clan register for atack fort of your clan. Siege will start in hour, destroy gate and kill guards. I farmed it with BD + wolf and boxed cov. And yeah i forgot... Make wolf at start and exp him, it will become your very strong partner later :) Fck SE...go for COV for sure.
If I farm KE on my main char will the drop late will be low? So 64 is the best level?
61-66 is good imo but dont remember well..its like year when i farmed that last time :)
Quote from: miou on September 12, 2012, 07:39:13 PM
pp83, bd, sws
Just 3 chars are allowed, so you should be banned. ;)
Quote from: qqqq on September 12, 2012, 09:02:55 PM
Quote from: miou on September 12, 2012, 07:39:13 PM
pp83, bd, sws
Just 3 chars are allowed, so you should be banned. ;)
I know a lot of ppl who should be banned over him for 3rd software which is more important
I am surely going to roll a buffer pet, PP or WC?
Should I also roll a BD or is it too much?
destro/tyrant + bd + WC
its the best combo
and for farm for its the best to have bd or sws dlvl from 3rd class to 65.
and as a DD u should start doing random parties on laba. at rune. realy nice drop chance of S guns and draco armor.
later on start to do SOI for book + drops. the faster u do it the better % to get drops u have.
gl dude!
make nuker or archer and get 84 on varka
the easy way is find a CP dude, that chronicle is kinda bored alone..
Quote from: Mikuu on September 12, 2012, 10:55:05 PM
the easy way is find a CP dude, that chronicle is kinda bored alone..
I dont have standard hours/days to play the game. Who would want me in a cp?
well that server isnt for casuals, "I mean ppl playing alone" you go be bored fast, for that i say u to find a cp, maybe as driver or idk and when you dont do nothing lvl ur own char.
Quote from: Geo96 on September 12, 2012, 10:17:59 PM
I am surely going to roll a buffer pet, PP or WC?
Should I also roll a BD or is it too much?
pve class + se + bd, stigma macro will do u better job than pretty much anything since i doubt u will get easily counter crit which is prophet all about, while having more survival from powind and dances are obvious. imo manly orc
just dont play l2, its bad for ur skin
Quote from: sTrafe. on September 13, 2012, 12:16:38 AM
just dont play l2, its bad for ur skin
Literally...
I had a friend that played L2 so much that the sun hadn't seen him for 3 months. He was as pale as a bucket of milk.
I don't know if that day will ever come but what are the best certification skills for a duelist?
ud, ud and more ud
Quote from: Mrkiller on September 12, 2012, 06:40:11 PM
Yea and no
U can make party with randoms so yes and no because u canot solo not even at juniors but u can solo at the 1st mobs but is kinda waste of time . ;)
was a long long time ago a crazy SK with BD boxed i think, who was soloing the green spot,hm ?
when our party was leaving in the morning hours, he was comming, was like the crazy neighbor who try to cut fire woods with a swiss knife...
Quote from: qqqq on September 12, 2012, 09:02:55 PM
Quote from: miou on September 12, 2012, 07:39:13 PM
pp83, bd, sws
Just 3 chars are allowed, so you should be banned. ;)
3 clients per pc, actually i have 2 PCs and 3 laptops
Quote from: Lusty on September 17, 2012, 05:41:44 AM
Quote from: Mrkiller on September 12, 2012, 06:40:11 PM
Yea and no
U can make party with randoms so yes and no because u canot solo not even at juniors but u can solo at the 1st mobs but is kinda waste of time . ;)
was a long long time ago a crazy SK with BD boxed i think, who was soloing the green spot,hm ?
when our party was leaving in the morning hours, he was comming, was like the crazy neighbor who try to cut fire woods with a swiss knife...
idealistas was farming alone, but he was doing this quite fast as for solo player
edit. yep, sorry for double post
U talking about Raziel who solo chimieras ? :)
i solo chimeras on WC, get off
Quote from: Jun0 on September 17, 2012, 03:22:59 PM
i solo chimeras on WC, get off
Solo? Do you have any boxed characters? With what equipment?
He is just troling...
i do not think you will be able to solo crap in hb on the empire server . not at least for a few months..
clans, and CPs stronger than clans will farm most of it, and will take any small spot available in hb. there will be no place for "solo"
the guy who started this thread comes from c4...... there are soo much thing to say about gracia ... oh well, have a look at these http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/t2
just make a tirant and a wc on box and try to find a dude using BD
Make warlord and farm AA in cata 24/7
RazieIII? Who is this mystical being that I must befriend?
1. Tyrant + WC boxed.
2. Raise a wolf, It'll be ur BFF.
3. Spam shout 24/7 saying something like !PRO100DD LF EXP PARTY or !PT LF BD/SWS/BISH/DD/EVERYTHING.
4. Start adding everyone to /friendlist and make friends (preferably if they're always on).
5. Farm KE's and get rich.
6. Cry coz u'll never be able to get dynasty stuff w/o a decent cp.
7. Quit l2.
8. Enjoy ur real life.
9. Die
10. Reborn in ur favorite animal.
WC = Greater Might +some dps +Buff All Part or
SE = Empower + Wild Magic + STIGMA +Recharge or
PP = Greater Might + Berz + Blesses + Resists
which one from above for BD+ Duelist+2 wolves?
for BD WC, for duelist SE/WC if u want make aoe get SE.
Quote from: mrPANIC on September 19, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
for BD WC, for duelist SE/WC if u want make aoe get SE.
I meant BD + Gladi.
How can I aoe with gladi? Using buster and storm for aoe solo isnt worth it.
ohh, sorry my mistake, so ofc WC.
SK can easy solo chimeras , even in groups. you just need 300 weapon and decent armor (IC with atr is OK). oh yeah, and 83 and SoS ;)
and remember to make PP box at the beginning, at end game prophet is very usefull, and is rare, not like BD and COV which everyone can log/borrow you ;)
this is good too:
Quote
1. Tyrant + WC boxed.
2. Raise a wolf, It'll be ur BFF.
3. Spam shout 24/7 saying something like !PRO100DD LF EXP PARTY or !PT LF BD/SWS/BISH/DD/EVERYTHING.
4. Start adding everyone to /friendlist and make friends (preferably if they're always on).
5. Farm KE's and get rich.
6. Cry coz u'll never be able to get dynasty stuff w/o a decent cp.
7. Quit l2.
8. Enjoy ur real life.
9. Die
10. Reborn in ur favorite animal.
Quote from: Wilk on September 19, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
SK can easy solo chimeras , even in groups. you just need 300 weapon and decent armor (IC with atr is OK). oh yeah, and 83 and SoS ;)
and remember to make PP box at the beginning, at end game prophet is very usefull, and is rare, not like BD and COV which everyone can log/borrow you ;)
this is good too:
Quote
1. Tyrant + WC boxed.
2. Raise a wolf, It'll be ur BFF.
3. Spam shout 24/7 saying something like !PRO100DD LF EXP PARTY or !PT LF BD/SWS/BISH/DD/EVERYTHING.
4. Start adding everyone to /friendlist and make friends (preferably if they're always on).
5. Farm KE's and get rich.
6. Cry coz u'll never be able to get dynasty stuff w/o a decent cp.
7. Quit l2.
8. Enjoy ur real life.
9. Die
10. Reborn in ur favorite animal.
What attri is needed for doing something like that?
go play aion pevepe server nab
n you re here to lose ur ballz, too gzgz :o
yes dont forget your pet (wolf) it is very useful, and a lot of partys ask for wolf. much more easy to do a RB with one party+wolfs. they do a lot of damage with good equip.
if you have time, raise a PP as other ppl say, and you can go party with the PP in HB and. you buff ( usualy they only need 1 buff from you, counter critical that is) and sit+get stones=profit.
meantime you xp with your main ;)
I had dark in weapon, because of SK skills for pvp/oly, but this is probably worst atri for HB, because many mobs there use dark atri attacks and are dark resisted too
Holy should be best atri for hb farm
Wolf is very usefull for random parties and laba, especially at the beginning, but is totally useless on HB / Tiat / other end game stuff (IMHO)
yeah, was not like the divine/dark stones the most expensive ones ? and the fire ones cheapest
Quote from: Lusty on September 21, 2012, 03:04:24 AM
yeah, was not like the divine/dark stones the most expensive ones ? and the fire ones cheapest
The fire/water are the only stones, which will be sold before HB will be opened. (Maybe also some wind/earth, but I doubt that people will sell them to randoms).
After HB is opened, dark/divine are the cheapest.
i remeber about the wind ones .pure gold . chimera drop them 1st ? also is the quest in aden which can give you some attribute stones,untreadable,but easy to get. a 10 min quest or so . i think 3 stones, and if you are lucky, can get 90 attri
Quote from: Wilk on September 20, 2012, 08:21:40 PM
I had dark in weapon, because of SK skills for pvp/oly, but this is probably worst atri for HB, because many mobs there use dark atri attacks and are dark resisted too
Holy should be best atri for hb farm
Wolf is very usefull for random parties and laba, especially at the beginning, but is totally useless on HB / Tiat / other end game stuff (IMHO)
i had on my HK sawsword 150dark focus and 150holy focus, both did same dmg on juniors
Quote from: Lusty on September 21, 2012, 03:40:46 AM
i remeber about the wind ones .pure gold . chimera drop them 1st ? also is the quest in aden which can give you some attribute stones,untreadable,but easy to get. a 10 min quest or so . i think 3 stones, and if you are lucky, can get 90 attri
quest in aden/rune grocery which u can take on level 75 gives you 2 stones, and if you are lucky you get 25 attri :)
wind stones can be also farmed on IoP, from dragons deep inside island
I thank everyone (except Dreamers and chester7lp) for helping me. At first I thought that I would get flammed. I am really thankfull for all of your tips/knowledge etc.
I have another question that I have googled but didn't find any answers.
Since C4 has anything changed regarding how you acquire S grade armors and items?
All I know are Varka/Ketra/FoG and IT/4Sepulchers quests.
P.S.: Nice sig you got there miou.
Quote from: Geo96 on September 21, 2012, 04:27:36 AM
I thank everyone (except Dreamers and chester7lp) for helping me. At first I thought that I would get flammed. I am really thankfull for all of your tips/knowledge etc.
I have another question that I have googled but didn't find any answers.
Since C4 has anything changed regarding how you acquire S grade armors and items?
All I know are Varka/Ketra/FoG and IT/4Sepulchers quests.
P.S.: Nice sig you got there miou.
ketra /varka still for s armor recs
it/fog for s weapon recs
also laba 78/80 drops s gr
beside that only place u can get s gr armor rec drops is tiat instance if u get lucky but u need 36+ chars to enter there
so pretty much it's still the same ever since c4
and s80 armor/weapon rec farmed in hb
if you play some dagger class learn to active CC by reflect
if you hit your target with Normal attack crit 700dmg+ and your target have atleast 20% reflect and your counter crit will active ,
you will see like 90% of ppls using reflect
so. to do 700dmg+.. use Focus death/power and go behind your target .. (my opinion you dont need to use dyes so you dont - str or -con)
(its just for mass pvps and not at 1v1 cuz at face to face you will do low dmg.. and with focus power/death even less)
most daggers dont know that if you keep focus power/death in face-to-face you will do kinda low dmg , its better than removing focus power/death than keep it on if you decide to hit face to face
(CC=Counter Critical= it actives for 8sec and increase dmg 100%.. and also this buff gives 30% reduce crit(dont need to active to have the reduce crit, you always have it if the buff is on).. pp can learn this at 83..you need book from oly)
IT can also active when fighter classes hit you, but its cool also to active it alone with reflect style
(if mages hits you, in 2years your cc will active)
Is it possible to aoe with two people( Duelist/Duelist, GK/GK or Duelist/GK.) and boxed buffers(WC, BD)?
Yes its possible and going nice but u need EE or SE to recharg...
I played on rpg x15 w/o cp. Class: adventurer.
I exp 78-83 in fog making trains. i used saint spear +150 + set draco. Box: wc 79 + bd 74
83-85 try find party for hb.
Counter Critical is great.. but pp 83 + nobles + 26k fame + 52k tokens... ;)
adv saint spear ? dafuq?
I meant with aoe skills. All I know is that till you get attri on your weapon you should keep your aoe skills at lvl 1, cause the extra mp consumption isnt worth the minimum extra dmg. After you get attri you should learn all levels and enchant them.
Quote from: Lusty on September 24, 2012, 07:47:42 PM
adv saint spear ? dafuq?
read again his post. He was making trainz in FoG. Best way to lvl up next to HB in GF.
Pole aoe:
I have heard that without pole masteries you are nerfed regarding how many targets you can hit at once. Warlords, destros, dwarves hit the most. Gladis hit a couple less with mastery lvl 8. And everybody else hit the lowest amount. Does this happen in GFinal?
GK/Duelist aoe:
Keep aoe storm and buster at lvl1 for less mp consumption cause the difference in dmg isnt worth it. Once you get attri on weapon, learn all levels of skills and enchant to your attri.
Quote from: yoker on September 25, 2012, 12:38:25 AM
Quote from: Lusty on September 24, 2012, 07:47:42 PM
adv saint spear ? dafuq?
read again his post. He was making trainz in FoG. Best way to lvl up next to HB in GF.
yeah,but but but what acu have a dagga with pole Oo ?
in the same way of things, can an ee aoe with pole,or whatever other class non skilled in pole...
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yeah,but but but what acu have a dagga with pole Oo ?
in the same way of things, can an ee aoe with pole,or whatever other class non skilled in pole...
lol, dagger isn't bad with pole, atribute do all. Adventurer 79+ (+5 str -5 con) + wc 79 + bd 74 ( for vampiric ). Subclass titan, bd ( for haste + celestial subskill ) with that can train 12+ moobs. I did it in rpg x15, with 1h vitality 79 0% - 79 40%.
gladi 150 +4 s duals + wc/bd and i did much more % in bug room in IT ;p
Quote from: Shattered on September 12, 2012, 07:06:28 PM
Seed of Destruction - Another instance with raid boss Tiat in the end. He drops Icarus and Vesper weps but u need mucho ppl for that so forget about it. BUT... When Tiat die 10 times, SOD is opened for everyone. It becomes smth like dungeon where u can farm ECS (from ecs u can craft atribute crystals). U should make some alt char just for sod farm cuz usualy its locked and u will be pked all the time. I always farmed it at very early morning when all normal and inteligent people sleep. Its very good way to make adena.
With what setup did you farm ECS early in the morning?
setup ?? you don't farm ecs with that agathion ?
Quote from: Lusty on September 28, 2012, 03:13:13 AM
setup ?? you don't farm ecs with that agathion ?
He says that he went there with an alt-char.
I just find it hard to believe that it is soloable to farm ECS(I haven't been there but I think that it is common sense).
And I am asking him with what char did he go there and with what boxed buffers.
y alt char has to have min lvl to enter gracia (74-75 ??) and you port inside and you dont fight nobody, just gather those craps ecs .or you get pked. most of the time . or you sit in a room and spam / target blabla = profit
how many ecs needed to craft 1 cry ?
In SOD you won't find any mobs (when it is open), just ECS and A LOT of pvp / PK :D
SOD is the most cool place in gracia final imo, you can go there with your main + as much boxes as you can and fight + collect ECS, or you can be pain in the ass and go with low lvl char just to collect ECS and piss off everybody around without even flagging yourself :D
20 ecs = 1 cry
Moosh
I have kind of an irrelevant question.
For about how long do rpg-club servers stay alive? Before people start leaving and the activity starts dying.
top clam usualy quit 2nd/3rd month, "huge" online stays for like 4-5 months, then slowly its gettin lower and lower, but for more casual players this server should be ok for like a year or so
actually there is another TOPZZZ players
Quote from: Jazz on September 30, 2012, 06:16:44 AM
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Quote from: Jazz on September 29, 2012, 11:14:35 PM
Sup bunch of random recruits. Still trying to be factor on your 84984998º server and failing miserably?
imho it's time to ask catalin or aderyn to put some server up w/o RU being able to log . so finally your all dreams gonna be reality: BE FACTOR
You should reconsider spending some time on thinking before posting. You either dont understand what factor word means or you are simply too dumb to place it properly into l2 world. I suggest to both Royalty and you to lurk for a bit of information regarding "factor" word.
Then let me teach you the meaning of the word "factor": means play for 2-3 weeks kicking the ass of everyone showing how bad your enemies are (getting all heroes, best castles, best epics), then quit.
Who stay = randoms, nonfactors, bunch of baddies.
Looks like you and your buddies fit on the second part: the kiddos that stay.
I love this factor talk. :D:D
"I factor, you scrub" yet there is no clear definition for factor in the game that people play for 2-3months tops then QQuit and cash out for "fat" money (read pocket money).
How is Berserker in PVE? With light can he tank 2-3 mobs at a time?
What are the PROS and CONS of Duelists, Grand Khavataris?
Quote from: Geo96 on October 08, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
How is Berserker in PVE? With light can he tank 2-3 mobs at a time?
Zerk can aoe whole room of angels in MOS, but he needs 1 or 2 rechargers. He needs only cov (no disco), as i remeber it was best exp ever besides aoe HB
What is better dual or single dagger?
Quote from: werewolf on October 08, 2012, 11:47:30 PM
Quote from: Geo96 on October 08, 2012, 11:35:41 PM
What is better dual or single dagger?
Forget about dual daggers in GF, out of range for randoms and newbies.
Answer the question please.
exp - dual
pvp- single
use your brain and use uncle google...
Quote from: Slajter on October 09, 2012, 05:45:31 PM
exp - dual
pvp- single
use your brain and use uncle google...
Uncle google has moved on pass Gracia Final, I don't care about GoD, H5 or Freya, cause that is all I can find.