BW3 Teamzone.biz dominating 3v3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhmg5bSChZo
'cus they can !
Sterbt zeitnah in einem Feuer.
jacky , there has to be some problem with that game
Guild Wars 2 BWE3 Teamzone.biz (http://www.teamzone.biz) Thief Hit'n Run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6vjZZ9rukQ
It was 3v2 and one guy was afk for most of it. Good fraps.
Quote from: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 29, 2012, 07:53:39 AM
It was 3v2 and one guy was afk for most of it. Good fraps.
More to come :))
Something different:
Guild Wars 2 - Thoughts on the final beta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtG0kkDviTU
Guild Wars 2 - server VS server VS server (WvWvW):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCJ61zvJ57U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMTrsXsb0B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlYUVvyDMNs
Guildwars, overrated.
gw2 sucks dick
Quote from: assemble on July 30, 2012, 12:14:34 AM
Quote from: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on July 29, 2012, 07:53:39 AM
It was 3v2 and one guy was afk for most of it. Good fraps.
More to come :))
Something different:
Guild Wars 2 - Thoughts on the final beta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtG0kkDviTU
Guild Wars 2 - server VS server VS server (WvWvW):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCJ61zvJ57U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMTrsXsb0B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlYUVvyDMNs
that server vs server thingie looked like 2 partys vs 2 partys
this video was unrelated to new rpg-club server launch. only care enough to make this post.
Quote from: dlrtpipemlkshk on July 30, 2012, 09:31:08 AM
this video was unrelated to new rpg-club server launch. only care enough to make this post.
Thanks for pointing this out. This is the main reason why this topic belongs to offtopic section.
GW2 revolutionizing PvP as we know it?http://www.teamparadigm.net/articles/blogs/Guild-Wars-2/25/Guild-Wars-2-is-Revolutionizing-PvP/
Team Paradigm : http://www.teamparadigm.net/
Team Legacy : http://teamlegacy.net/
... and others: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/32389-world-choice-guilds-and-communities/
More to come.
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teamparadigm.net%2Fuploads%2Farticle_images%2FGuild_Wars_2_502406_full.jpg&hash=ffc14e3213ea32cf97e14bd5124fa9ea00d68df5) (http://www.guildwars2.com)
yet another crapy game for 2 months.
Quote from: kornez on July 31, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
yet another crapy game for 2 months.
Thank you very much for sharing your opinion, but you might be VERY WRONG.
Official ArenaNet Video: World vs. World in Guild Wars 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnOhMeYxhRM
Official ArenaNet Video: Combat in Guild Wars 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDyKPXjA9eU
Official ArenaNet Video: PvP in Guild Wars 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru5K4HIlPuM
One Job Is Easier than Three Jobs (WoW vs GW2 Combat): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjcoeShiI7o
Stresstest footage
GW2 Thief - I'll make you bleed Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2lKU1PN4-Q
gw2 will suck, Will buy it anyway because B2P.
Quote from: ►Kuro1n on August 03, 2012, 07:29:07 PM
gw2 will suck, Will buy it anyway because B2P.
i think gw2, will be like diablo3 nice at the begin and then boring like a 5000x custom pvp server.
Quote from: assemble on August 03, 2012, 06:55:09 PM
Stresstest footage
GW2 Thief - I'll make you bleed Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2lKU1PN4-Q
Free tip:
If you want to show how good GW2 is dont show a guy who jump around and finish dead ppl. Elementalist pov would be much better for that purpose.
Quote from: Mrkiller on August 03, 2012, 10:16:16 PM
Quote from: ►Kuro1n on August 03, 2012, 07:29:07 PM
gw2 will suck, Will buy it anyway because B2P.
i think gw2, will be like diablo3 nice at the begin and then boring like a 5000x custom pvp server.
GW2 isn't RPG.
Quote from: Groar on August 03, 2012, 10:45:06 PM
Free tip:
If you want to shop how good GW2 is dont show a guy who jump around and finish dead ppl. Elementalist pov would be much better for that purpose.
That vid was from a dude who's enjoying thief. For pro gaming I guess I can show some vids from team legacy or paradigm.
Thanks for the tip. Do you have anything in mind?
Xlayer Elementalist PvPhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afcZ20bbfkY -> 1080p for pure awesomeness
i played beta few times and i rly enjoyed this game so it wont be a such fail like aion or tera:d T
"Register to just to post this."
lmfao.... europeans saying GW2 will suck???????? 500 vs 500 vs 500 in World vs. World. Thats like castle seiges 24/7. The fun never stops. The pvp ACTUALLY TAKES SKILL. NO MORE CLICKING F1 F2 SPAM. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO AIM.
You are stuck in the stone age, Lineage 2 is DEAD. You have no competition from Americans since 2006. Thats why you guys always win these servers. GG.
OOC would get rolled by Condemned. Or any clan in Titan alliance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnL6irpvwDc
This game is legit, but you are too poverty too play it???? QQ .
Have fun playing a 8 year old game while the best game since Lineage 2 has come out.
Quote from: Khios on August 04, 2012, 09:07:36 PM
"Register to just to post this."
lmfao.... europeans saying GW2 will suck???????? 500 vs 500 vs 500 in World vs. World. Thats like castle seiges 24/7. The fun never stops. The pvp ACTUALLY TAKES SKILL. NO MORE CLICKING F1 F2 SPAM. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO AIM.
same hype had place before aion/tera/swotr (aka. 2 months game) launch :)
Quote from: Khios on August 04, 2012, 09:07:36 PM
"Register to just to post this."
lmfao.... europeans saying GW2 will suck???????? 500 vs 500 vs 500 in World vs. World. Thats like castle seiges 24/7. The fun never stops. The pvp ACTUALLY TAKES SKILL. NO MORE CLICKING F1 F2 SPAM. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO AIM.
You are stuck in the stone age, Lineage 2 is DEAD. You have no competition from Americans since 2006. Thats why you guys always win these servers. GG.
OOC would get rolled by Condemned. Or any clan in Titan alliance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnL6irpvwDc
This game is legit, but you are too poverty too play it???? QQ .
Have fun playing a 8 year old game while the best game since Lineage 2 has come out.
Old games are the best, EVE, L2 etc. All new games are like fucking themepark crap on wheels with a faggot guide to hold your hand from first second until you got all your "epixzzzzz". Fuck that shit.
that game is like wow so it sux, the pvp takes skills? yea as much skills as l2 takes
Quote from: Soul` on August 04, 2012, 11:24:40 PM
that game is like wow so it sux, the pvp takes skills? yea as much skills as l2 takes
Sorry but you are wrong. In GW2 you aren't gear based as in WoW and L2.
so u are saying if i play 2h/day i can fight ppl who plays 10h/day ?
Quote from: Soul` on August 05, 2012, 12:33:41 AM
so u are saying if i play 2h/day i can fight ppl who plays 10h/day ?
yes Soul`
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Structured_PvP
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World_PvP
Structured PvP enough reading.
so how come its the same to play 2h or 10h, since u start u got evrything, items, max lvl blabla there is no farm or pve?
Quote from: Soul` on August 05, 2012, 01:02:54 AM
Structured PvP enough reading.
so how come its the same to play 2h or 10h, since u start u got evrything, items, max lvl blabla there is no farm or pve?
as i see u stuck in l2 world ... grind grind and grind..
This game have 3 structures .. pve world with storyline for each class like asura/human/etc
Worlvs Worl= perma pvp (depends on what lvl u participate)
structured pvp = 5vs 5 max lvl top gear etc= as u see only pvp
instead of saying hw much u know about me, tell me how it works on gw2 im just curious :/
gw2 wil last even less than tera, it wont keep ppl enjoyed for too long
Quote from: xenom on August 05, 2012, 01:47:09 AM
gw2 wil last even less than tera, it wont keep ppl enjoyed for too long
You forget one thing: there is no monthly fee.
And trust me, you have LOTS of things to do.
I won't start to explain everything here, but maybe this will help you to understand it better:
Guild Wars 2 - Mass info for the uninitiated. READ ME! http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1058358 (http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1058358)
GW2: New player handbook http://www.bob-guild.net/gw/page.php?69 (http://www.bob-guild.net/gw/page.php?69)
if u cant farm gear,neither grind exp. theres only pvp or brainless pve for 24/7
You can grind if you want. If that's your choice :)
Say you're killing a mob and someone comes along and starts killing it as well, when the mob dies you both get FULL XP and loot for it regardless if you're grouped with them or not. ArenaNet is designing a game where you no longer dread seeing other players around you, you WANT to group up with them.
thx for the links more reasons this game doesnt look good to me
Hahah this game will bet better than Lineage, I have only played 1 game since 2004, Lineage 2 and League of Legends. Guild Wars 2 IS BETTER THAN LINEAGE. Like it or not. The game is the next generation. Top Clans on L2 are misssing out, everyone else already moved off this grindfest of a game we know as lIneage
Quote from: Khios on August 05, 2012, 04:36:19 AM
Hahah this game will bet better than Lineage, I have only played 1 game since 2004, Lineage 2 and League of Legends. Guild Wars 2 IS BETTER THAN LINEAGE. Like it or not. The game is the next generation. Top Clans on L2 are misssing out, everyone else already moved off this grindfest of a game we know as lIneage
l2 is way better. Like it or not.
as i said
gw2 sucks dick
give it 2 months tops for people to realize it isn't a competetive clan/group game like lineage 2, that its a game u cant play 12 hours in a row and not get bored, and they'll all hop back
l2 is a farm game, but guess what, if it wasn't, you'd quit servers in 2 weeks instead of 4 months, just take high rates for example. you run out of things to do, you get bored. atleast in l2, you run out of things to do once ur mad farmed, you can do oly, gank, epic pvps, and so on.
in gw2, you'll do world vs world like you been doing since the start of server, or youll do that 5v5, you think that won't get repetetive and boring?
there simply won't be a game as good as L2
Lineage 2 is not Lineage since c4.
THIS IS REAL LINEAGE . THE GAME SUCKS NOW BRO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nhg0ywOwG8
Besides, in L2 , the game is all decided by gear/level. NOT SKILL
Quote from: Khios on August 06, 2012, 03:38:17 AM
Lineage 2 is not Lineage since c4.
THIS IS REAL LINEAGE . THE GAME SUCKS NOW BRO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nhg0ywOwG8
Besides, in L2 , the game is all decided by gear/level. NOT SKILL
sure too much skill on that vid.. xD
Quote from: aYotech on August 05, 2012, 11:18:10 AM
as i said
gw2 sucks dick
give it 2 months tops for people to realize it isn't a competetive clan/group game like lineage 2, that its a game u cant play 12 hours in a row and not get bored, and they'll all hop back
l2 is a farm game, but guess what, if it wasn't, you'd quit servers in 2 weeks instead of 4 months, just take high rates for example. you run out of things to do, you get bored. atleast in l2, you run out of things to do once ur mad farmed, you can do oly, gank, epic pvps, and so on.
in gw2, you'll do world vs world like you been doing since the start of server, or youll do that 5v5, you think that won't get repetetive and boring?
there simply won't be a game as good as L2
^this, and the only reason l2 low rates die unlike retail are because they dont get updated content a few months after everyone hits end game )
Quote from: Khios on August 06, 2012, 03:38:17 AM
Lineage 2 is not Lineage since c4.
THIS IS REAL LINEAGE . THE GAME SUCKS NOW BRO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nhg0ywOwG8
Besides, in L2 , the game is all decided by gear/level. NOT SKILL
Dvp is/was pro l2 player but get serious c4 wasn't that hard chronicle (eventhough the best..) and also he was full buffed-geared against weak enemies.
Quote from: assemble on August 03, 2012, 11:05:51 PM
Xlayer Elementalist PvP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afcZ20bbfkY -> 1080p for pure awesomeness
Thanks, it worth the time spent watching.
Quote from: kostakisss on August 06, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
Dvp is/was pro l2 player but get serious c4 wasn't that hard chronicle (eventhough the best..) and also he was full buffed-geared against weak enemies.
Ohhh son, trust me that everyone can be that "pro player" dvp was with the gear he had. In his movies he`s full s grade, enchanted (and his party) when everyone else had A grades. He was one of those lucky, or rich, guys that had the chance of getting the first top gear, overgearing everyone else! It`s the same with mages now at a start of server, or when they get 300 on wep before everyone else stack rezists.
As for GW2, i think it`s a game that worth the 60euro you have to pay once. Also remember that there will never be a game that will last forever... you get a game, you play it, you get bored and you press NEXT button.
Kesil 2 - Guild Wars 2 Elementalist spvp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9zHoIuTF_Q
I can't deny the fact that you're doing a good job with your class, but would you fucking stop to flood the video with fancy light effects and all the other stuff you throw at my darn eyes? I can't see jack shit.
I've been playing GW1 since its very start and i still enjoy it up to this day. Maybe it's nostalgia - i don't know, but that does not matter. The whole hype with GW2 was to completely revamp the carebear stuff that was the key of gameplay in GW1 (to make it short for those who don't know, you could play through the whole game without ever having to party with another person for anything), later they decided to revamp the genre itself to make more hype. And what did they do? They added bling to the game, fancy graphics, jumping and move/dodge based combat, but the rest is all the same. Those dynamic events are not that dynamic as they promised, there are exploits which are not being fixed for no reason, all the people are playing the game like a single player with killing rats and picking fkng flowers while running around and singing 'Raining Man'. My point is - if you want to revamp and redefine the MMORPG genre, you have to do it step by step, not all at once, it took them what, 6 or 7 years to complete this, and this game looks like a ps2 rpg with story for role players and never ending carebear pve. You never ever will have an element of surprise when 20 people run to you and your crew from your back and you have to defend yourself - this is dynamic, not presetting everything and calling it 'dynamic' to make it look random and 'innovative' . I've seen these innovations before, with Terra, WoW, Rift, and still - nobody ever came close to making pvp combat as complex and team play based as Lineage II did, to bad L2 has the worst marketing team I've seen, which lead this game to being underdog of MMORPG's.
GW2 is so amazing that they put wrong prices in shop and then banned players ;D
Quote from: dotpwnz on September 02, 2012, 12:34:41 AM
I've been playing GW1 since its very start and i still enjoy it up to this day. Maybe it's nostalgia - i don't know, but that does not matter. The whole hype with GW2 was to completely revamp the carebear stuff that was the key of gameplay in GW1 (to make it short for those who don't know, you could play through the whole game without ever having to party with another person for anything), later they decided to revamp the genre itself to make more hype. And what did they do? They added bling to the game, fancy graphics, jumping and move/dodge based combat, but the rest is all the same. Those dynamic events are not that dynamic as they promised, there are exploits which are not being fixed for no reason, all the people are playing the game like a single player with killing rats and picking fkng flowers while running around and singing 'Raining Man'. My point is - if you want to revamp and redefine the MMORPG genre, you have to do it step by step, not all at once, it took them what, 6 or 7 years to complete this, and this game looks like a ps2 rpg with story for role players and never ending carebear pve. You never ever will have an element of surprise when 20 people run to you and your crew from your back and you have to defend yourself - this is dynamic, not presetting everything and calling it 'dynamic' to make it look random and 'innovative' . I've seen these innovations before, with Terra, WoW, Rift, and still - nobody ever came close to making pvp combat as complex and team play based as Lineage II did, to bad L2 has the worst marketing team I've seen, which lead this game to being underdog of MMORPG's.
Nobody could say it beter .. about L2
so teamzone fail in every l2 server and have to move to a 10 kid game to win a 3v2?? gl hf
Is Splicho camping AQ on GW2? :O
Why u say TZ fail? newbs they put AQ in lockdown on some server/s and they fucked up the 7sins wining the lilith/anakim on important server/s
Damn fanboys .. u again
Sure, TeamZone locked down AQ, when nobody gave a flying fk about it already. Everywhere they go they make fools out of themselves, dunno if its the leader or the population of the clan in general.
Quote from: werewolf on September 05, 2012, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: Mrkiller on September 05, 2012, 01:14:20 PM
Why u say TZ fail? newbs they put AQ in lockdown on some server/s and they fucked up the 7sins wining the lilith/anakim on important server/s
Of course, in rpg history for example, sure?
I dont like TZ, but yes i have to admit they fucked up 7sign on rpg, and made a lot of adena ( free crystal and high aa value ).
Big achievement.
this game is so bad, once again i listened to all the rumors people saying.. first TERA, best mmo in the world coming same pvp system as l2 = fail
diablo 3 = best game ever coming = fail
gw2 = best mmo ever made = maybe, its cool, story lines are awesome and graphics/mobility is cool, but pvp is trash, so once again = fail
I have to disagree about Tera, this game is amazing. The only problem is content and pvp goals, give it some years ;]
Quote from: aYotech on September 06, 2012, 08:09:00 AMfirst TERA, best mmo in the world coming same pvp system as l2 = fail
Small fanboy-base said that, no one else.
Quote from: aYotech on September 06, 2012, 08:09:00 AM
diablo 3 = best game ever coming = fail
Big fanboy-base said that, no one else.
Quote from: aYotech on September 06, 2012, 08:09:00 AM
gw2 = best mmo ever made = maybe, its cool, story lines are awesome and graphics/mobility is cool, but pvp is trash, so once again = fail
The pvp is fair, skill based and honest, which l2 always lacked. Hands down, all the pro parties from pro clams used and will use cp clickers, xyz-ranger and enchant bugs like it's totally part of the game. Even if not everyone, l2 pvp is still mostly about gear. Who gets it first is the fame-hoe of the server.
Well, WvWvW in gw2 is quite similar to l2's castle sieges/boss fights . Jump into the zerg, spam aoe, have fun or lag out.
inb4 gw2 sucks and l2 is best pvp system evaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
I dont think there wil be a game with farm and pvp mixed in a such a good way how is l2 , anytime sooner .
Quote from: Bulle on September 06, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
I have to disagree about Tera, this game is amazing. The only problem is content and pvp goals, give it some years ;]
I played it for some weeks but I got bored of the pve pretty early. Sure it's "skill based pve" blahblah, but as a Berserker, all I did was killing mob-train after mob-train in the same skill rotation. Even tho pvp looked kinda cool, everyone stopped to talk about it and so did I.
Well, berserker class got some problems but the combat system is awesome, you can really enjoy the pvp and the pve. I played mystic and it was great. Will play it again maybe in a year !
ArcheAge guys !
orc must die!
gw2 = casual game
remember one thing, pve leads to pvp
thats how l2 works and i think it works great.
this game is only sieges and fortress pvp, (if id have to compare it to l2)
This guy is funny but his review it's good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-_06Acj8Y&feature=player_embedded#!
Quote from: aYotech on September 06, 2012, 09:00:13 PM
gw2 = casual game
remember one thing, pve leads to pvp
thats how l2 works and i think it works great.
this game is only sieges and fortress pvp, (if id have to compare it to l2)
Developer and Publisher doesn't make money with hardcore games like Lineage 2, thats why every MMORPG is a casual game now. Guild Wars 2 was so hyped, but it's fucking fail. Tera is alot better, just lack on content (battlegrounds, raid system and new instances were already a good step for future content).
Guild Wars 2: WvW Elementalist PVP Gameplay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XYe_FrA1dI
Quote from: aYotech on August 05, 2012, 11:18:10 AM
as i said
gw2 sucks dick
give it 2 months tops for people to realize it isn't a competetive clan/group game like lineage 2, that its a game u cant play 12 hours in a row and not get bored, and they'll all hop back
l2 is a farm game, but guess what, if it wasn't, you'd quit servers in 2 weeks instead of 4 months, just take high rates for example. you run out of things to do, you get bored. atleast in l2, you run out of things to do once ur mad farmed, you can do oly, gank, epic pvps, and so on.
in gw2, you'll do world vs world like you been doing since the start of server, or youll do that 5v5, you think that won't get repetetive and boring?
there simply won't be a game as good as L2
Yo ayo ;)
You can't compare l2 to gw2. I was surprised by how good gw2 is. At the start I was very sceptical, not sure wtf was up with the split PvE and PvP. But it is a brilliant idea...
I've been PvE'ing also and it has it's own charm, but the only thing you gain for PvE is that you get to know your character. You could basically go PvP on level 1 but you might get fucked hard because you are clueless on how to play it. Unlike l2 where you can rape if someone hands you a level 85 mystic muse for example.
In gw2 you need to know how to play it + you need to customize your set up which you can do it many many ways. Apart from that you can join 5 vs 5 tournaments where you actually need a tactic and different roles. Only then you will consistently win tournaments. You will win gear and fame, gear which will only change your looks btw cus everything has the same stats.
And I do agree about l2. It will always be my favorite. There is absolutely nothing wrong with competition needing a combination of skills in PvE and PvP.
Oh god how I love getting to know and explore my characters lore and story line. Its great. Owait no its not I'm not a fucking casual roleplayer.
This game is identical to WoW in the pve system, just that you dont take the quests, they automatically get taken as you enter the zone. I played it, the only thing that made me enjoy it was my obsession with completing 100% a zone, because I'm somewhat a perfectionist.
Its definitely not a revelation in MMOs but it is somewhat fun to play casually, I haven't even tried the pvp because its extremely laggy, and you just get zerged over and have 0 waypoints to get back to the pvp, you have to run for 10 minutes to find a zerg of people that instantly destroy you.
Lineage 3 will be the only thing that will be better than lineage 2. Hopefully :]
Quote from: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on September 09, 2012, 04:52:59 PM
Oh god how I love getting to know and explore my characters lore and story line. Its great. Owait no its not I'm not a fucking casual roleplayer.
Since when are you a 'fucking casual role player' when you enjoy a story line based PvE game? You never played skyrim or any other non pvp game?
Quote from: Schizo on September 09, 2012, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on September 09, 2012, 04:52:59 PM
Oh god how I love getting to know and explore my characters lore and story line. Its great. Owait no its not I'm not a fucking casual roleplayer.
Since when are you a 'fucking casual role player' when you enjoy a story line based PvE game? You never played skyrim or any other non pvp game?
is it that wierd? for me, last nonpvp game i played was gta3 oO i just dont find it satisfying to play vs computer
Quote from: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on September 09, 2012, 04:52:59 PM
Oh god how I love getting to know and explore my characters lore and story line. Its great. Owait no its not I'm not a fucking casual roleplayer.
This game is identical to WoW in the pve system, just that you dont take the quests, they automatically get taken as you enter the zone. I played it, the only thing that made me enjoy it was my obsession with completing 100% a zone, because I'm somewhat a perfectionist.
Its definitely not a revelation in MMOs but it is somewhat fun to play casually, I haven't even tried the pvp because its extremely laggy, and you just get zerged over and have 0 waypoints to get back to the pvp, you have to run for 10 minutes to find a zerg of people that instantly destroy you.
Lineage 3 will be the only thing that will be better than lineage 2. Hopefully :]
actually +1 to the whole thing
nothing more to say, except that perphaps "open PvP" servers might actually help that game(ill still not play it).
but u wont get them, most of the community playing that game is a wow/pve oriented community, there is some threads, and theres -9999 people voting against it lol
I'm actually playing it 5 vs 5 as if it were Counter Strike or HON...
3 hours in WvW queue and still can't enter, in low populated server. GW2 PVE gameplay is ridicously casual, you don't have to be part of a group or guild to make all quests and Dynamic Events, maybe for dungeons. You get full XP from mobs even if you run around KSing other people, and they are actually happy because they don't lose any XP. You can make level 80 just by crafting, you get XP for basically anything you do.
Dunno about PVP system (PVP character) but something about small groups fighting in arena isn't that appealing.
The game itself is very very well developed if you're a hardcore roleplayer, but after years of L2 I can't find any interest in it.
P.S. Anyone who mentions TERA is not cool, that game is the worst, seriously.
GW2 streams: http://www.twitch.tv/directory/Guild%20Wars%202
Played it for a few days and yes I agree it's a good game but not for someone who likes L2. The community is extremely pathetic also and rages and demand you to get kicked out as soon as you suggest a open world PVP server or something along those lines. lol
http://spvp.org/ - Profession Mechanics - Theorycrafting & Discussion
crap game :S
I wish L3 would be identical to L2 in C1 -> C6 (with updates like on l2) but with tera's beautiful graphics.
But I dont doubt that it will be beautiful because most korean mmos are, and Lineage Eternal looks pretty beautiful.
Imagine how cool and nostalgic it would be to play a brand new game with themes from l2, like walking through a new revamped Talking Island with the same music and shit :3
Some info about Lineage 3 already??
Would be nice to see lineage3 with some new classes and less instances and beter graphics and effects
Everyone is calling Lineage Eternal as Lineage 3 so I guess the Lineage 2 fans are waiting for Lineage 4 than
Quote from: werewolf on September 12, 2012, 12:40:08 PM
It can sounds kinda weird but, after these all years spent in L2, I could not play other MMOs, hard to explain but in every aspect of PvP for example I would look for similarities to the L2.
L2 it's a mostly grind game mixed with many amazing aspects of PvP, ganks, unique Wars, sieges, tw, domination, epic fights and so on.
Graphic till H5 chronicle is fine for me, in GOD eyes hurts me after 2 hours for example.
GoD is ok imo... I dislike 7 class, its so stupid idea. :S
good luck waiting for a game like L2.
lets see what defines L2:
- smallest factor unit is a group of 9 people.
- over 50 classes, so whatever a player picks is useless to big portion of groups.
- its a grind, so people have to stay in one place for long period of time to level. no quests.
- gear is the shit. the gap between character power of a geared toon and shitty toon is massive.
- world objectives and high-end content are contested, therefore only available to organized clans.
- 90% of the population are effectively slaves of the top 10%.
damn, this looks so appealing to casuals, the target market of any gaming company.
modern MMOs go in the opposite direction:
- factor unit is usually one person, and party has ~5 slots.
- under 10 classes.
- leveling = doing quests and constantly moving. got killed? np just move.
- gear progression is linear. no snowballing. focus on cosmetics.
- high-end content is separated from pvp completely, so people can do instances to get gear and then join battlegrounds to kill people for no reason.
as for gw2, its exactly that. its a game for casuals. it moved the pvp/pve separation to the next level.
on one hand, you have pve, where you level your character from 1 to 80, explore, do dungeons and all that and its pretty good, really. but there is zero pvp. you cant even duel. nothing.
yes, there is WvWvW, but thats just a zerg of unorganized headless chicken smashing buttons, where people either chase the enemy if there is more of you, or run away if there is more of them.
on other hand, you have pvp, which is a competely different game, you are lvl 80 for free, you get the best and only gear for free and you either do battleground for no reason but cosmetic items or tournaments with no ranking whatsoever.
on top of that, the combat feels really clunky and pvp is frustrating because you cant simply kill people, you have to kill them, then try to kill them for real which wont happen since the dead people will interrupt, so you want to try again but now you are dead too because dead people do damage in this game.
closest mmo to L2 is EVE online, in my opinion.
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Quote from: n on September 12, 2012, 05:41:37 PM
Quote from: Mrkiller on September 12, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
Is that superman in your signature neiz?
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ITT nearly no one knows that Tera is the abandoned L3 project and the next Lineage game will be diablo like (from the visuals so far)
There will be competetive MMORPG some day, maybe not tomorrow, but we should expect it.
The main problem with new mmos is the fact that game genere like this require more dedications than others, you can't create any decent mmo game without community that makes it full of life. Such community need, so called, hardcore gamers that take this kind of entertainment very seriously. Surely- there are way more casual players than hardcore gamers, so most devs are looking for such customers, but as we can see- it doesn't go well together, at least in this genere. I guess the game should attract players who are looking for a challenge, so there should be lots of competetive stuff like PvP (small scale, big scale), some political beings like clans, alliances and demanding PvE that promote being smart rather than having too much time. There should be also some content for casual players- both kind of gamers benefit from each other- dedicated players create unpredctable and dynamic game environment that is way more interesting than scripted history, while casual players create the community- suppliers, customers and very often allies (at some point) for those who are factors. Beside that, I really don't believe that you are casual/hardcore for life- for example I never thought that gaming will become my new and main hobby, I don't even imagine that I could spend some money on a online game before I discovered L2. The main difference between those two groups is attitude, and we all know that attitude might change if you are experiencing something new. Now, the puzzlement is to actually forge this idea into a brand new MMORPG, which might be "a little" harder than just thinking of it.
About GW2- the game is probably more polished than products, that claimed to be new gen MMO and failed miserably. Still, it's based on the same concept- to attract casual players and deny the existance of a competetive gamers. It's all new, bright and interesting to discover new content that rewards you for everything and doesn't punish for being dumb/unskilled/sociopathic. Untill everything is discovered, it's interesting, but at some point it will be just repetetive, the all benefits of having many people at one place are neglected- you basically play single player game with a chat and a little bit smarter NPCs that run around you. I really don't think that this game will survive very long, content creation process is much slower than discovering it, therfore game will be abandoned, since players are unable to create their own way to enjoy the game.
Srsly I dont care, I just want to play old c4/5/6 thats all.
Guild Wars 2 Tutorial: How to PvP against thieves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq8BJrmrUaU
Guild Wars 2 PVP: Warrior/Guardian vs Elementalist/Warrior
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmMoPVEuzBc
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Quote from: Pepsi ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on September 12, 2012, 07:48:28 AM
I wish L3 would be identical to L2 in C1 -> C6 (with updates like on l2) but with tera's beautiful graphics.
But I dont doubt that it will be beautiful because most korean mmos are, and Lineage Eternal looks pretty beautiful.
Imagine how cool and nostalgic it would be to play a brand new game with themes from l2, like walking through a new revamped Talking Island with the same music and shit :3
Didn't see this post until now but ArcheAge is made by the team who made L2 Prelude - C5 and will have L2 type of PvP afaik (you can make your own factions or crap like that).
Quote from: n on September 12, 2012, 04:32:13 PM
good luck waiting for a game like L2.
lets see what defines L2:
- smallest factor unit is a group of 9 people.
- over 50 classes, so whatever a player picks is useless to big portion of groups.
- its a grind, so people have to stay in one place for long period of time to level. no quests.
- gear is the shit. the gap between character power of a geared toon and shitty toon is massive.
- world objectives and high-end content are contested, therefore only available to organized clans.
- 90% of the population are effectively slaves of the top 10%.
damn, this looks so appealing to casuals, the target market of any gaming company.
modern MMOs go in the opposite direction:
- factor unit is usually one person, and party has ~5 slots.
- under 10 classes.
- leveling = doing quests and constantly moving. got killed? np just move.
- gear progression is linear. no snowballing. focus on cosmetics.
- high-end content is separated from pvp completely, so people can do instances to get gear and then join battlegrounds to kill people for no reason.
as for gw2, its exactly that. its a game for casuals. it moved the pvp/pve separation to the next level.
on one hand, you have pve, where you level your character from 1 to 80, explore, do dungeons and all that and its pretty good, really. but there is zero pvp. you cant even duel. nothing.
yes, there is WvWvW, but thats just a zerg of unorganized headless chicken smashing buttons, where people either chase the enemy if there is more of you, or run away if there is more of them.
on other hand, you have pvp, which is a competely different game, you are lvl 80 for free, you get the best and only gear for free and you either do battleground for no reason but cosmetic items or tournaments with no ranking whatsoever.
on top of that, the combat feels really clunky and pvp is frustrating because you cant simply kill people, you have to kill them, then try to kill them for real which wont happen since the dead people will interrupt, so you want to try again but now you are dead too because dead people do damage in this game.
closest mmo to L2 is EVE online, in my opinion.
Also this is all very true and EVE is the shit.
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