1. Players are not allowed to:
1.1 Use any kind of 3rd party software (l2control, l2walker, l2ranger, l2phx, l2net, l2Wx, ACP, hLapex, Uopilot, etc).
1.1.1 Be in one party with a bot. If bot is detected, the full party will be punished.
1.2 Interfere or mess with client-server data packet exchange.
1.3 Take advantage of the server bugs (including geodata flaws).
1.4 Use ingame names containing offensive/obscene language.
1.5 Impersonate server Administraiton/GMs or act on behalf of server Administration/GMs.
1.6 Flood or flame in the game chats.
1.7 Buy, sell or exchange ingame goods/adena/accounts for real goods/currency.
1.8 Advertise other projects, servers or sites in game.
1.9 Discuss Administration/GMs' actions in game.
1.10 Scam other players (including buff or item scamming).
1.11 Insult other players, server Administration or GMs.
1.12 Violate the rules.
2. Players may:
2.1 Use official RPG-club trade bot (see here) for trade purposes only.
2.1.1 Write for trade only to trade chat 1 time in 1 minute, no more.
2.2 Use multiple accounts simultaneously.
2.3 Apply minor modifications to the client files (as long as it not interferes with gameplay or giving significant advantage to the player)
2.4 Ask questions and/or suggest ideas for server improvement.
2.5 Follow the rules.
as i see here i can box a whole party right ? cause in new rules i dont see anything against more than 3 boxes
not good :(
1.1.1 Be in one party with a bot. If bot is detected, the full party will be punished.
So what happens if we join a random party and someone decides to turn on bot lol.
Think this rule needs to be thought out a bit more.
Quote from: n0click on February 27, 2010, 06:29:45 PM
as i see here i can box a whole party right ? cause in new rules i dont see anything against more than 3 boxes
Maybe it's just a typo, he forgot to add it.
i have hope :p
Quote from: ukyo on February 27, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
1.1.1 Be in one party with a bot. If bot is detected, the full party will be punished.
So what happens if we join a random party and someone decides to turn on bot lol.
Think this rule needs to be thought out a bit more.
Its simple, you must be in pt only with trusted friends and if you dont have any then you must play solo
Quote from: n0click on February 27, 2010, 06:29:45 PM
as i see here i can box a whole party right ? cause in new rules i dont see anything against more than 3 boxes
https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php?topic=2680.0
are you blind?
Quote from: ukyo on February 27, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
1.1.1 Be in one party with a bot. If bot is detected, the full party will be punished.
So what happens if we join a random party and someone decides to turn on bot lol.
Think this rule needs to be thought out a bit more.
yea, its a stupid rule, better admins should think about it again.
Quote from: n0click on February 27, 2010, 06:29:45 PM
1. Players are not allowed to:
1.1 Use any kind of 3rd party software (l2control, l2walker, l2ranger, l2phx, l2net, l2Wx, ACP, hLapex, Uopilot, etc).
1.1.1 Be in one party with a bot. If bot is detected, the full party will be punished.
1.2 Interfere or mess with client-server data packet exchange.
1.3 Take advantage of the server bugs (including geodata flaws).
1.4 Use ingame names containing offensive/obscene language.
1.5 Impersonate server Administraiton/GMs or act on behalf of server Administration/GMs.
1.6 Flood or flame in the game chats.
1.7 Buy, sell or exchange ingame goods/adena/accounts for real goods/currency.
1.8 Advertise other projects, servers or sites in game.
1.9 Discuss Administration/GMs' actions in game.
1.10 Scam other players (including buff or item scamming).
1.11 Insult other players, server Administration or GMs.
1.12 Violate the rules.
2. Players may:
2.1 Use official RPG-club trade bot (see here) for trade purposes only.
2.1.1 Write for trade only to trade chat 1 time in 1 minute, no more.
2.2 Use multiple accounts simultaneously.
2.3 Apply minor modifications to the client files (as long as it not interferes with gameplay or giving significant advantage to the player)
2.4 Ask questions and/or suggest ideas for server improvement.
2.5 Follow the rules.
what the...
Шабака, are you going to review the rule 1.1.1 or it's permanent version of it?
Quote from: itstime on February 27, 2010, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: ukyo on February 27, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
1.1.1 Be in one party with a bot. If bot is detected, the full party will be punished.
So what happens if we join a random party and someone decides to turn on bot lol.
Think this rule needs to be thought out a bit more.
Its simple, you must be in pt only with trusted friends and if you dont have any then you must play solo
that's cool and everything, would like to see you controlling who's party are you joining on sieges/raids/pvps, last minute changes and setups.
it simply isn't how L2 works, you can't know what are people in your party doing all the time.
Quote from: ukyo on February 27, 2010, 07:57:05 PM
Quote from: itstime on February 27, 2010, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: ukyo on February 27, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
1.1.1 Be in one party with a bot. If bot is detected, the full party will be punished.
So what happens if we join a random party and someone decides to turn on bot lol.
Think this rule needs to be thought out a bit more.
Its simple, you must be in pt only with trusted friends and if you dont have any then you must play solo
that's cool and everything, would like to see you controlling who's party are you joining on sieges/raids/pvps, last minute changes and setups.
it simply isn't how L2 works, you can't know what are people in your party doing all the time.
yeah, this rule is ridiculous....hope they will change it
1.1.1 permanent
if your party member was on bot, all thank to him
+1, very good i see alot qq here ^^
No "flaming" in chat is going to be fucking absurd. There's always going to be a lot of rivalry with people and clans in L2, that's just how L2 is. Saying that flaming will get you in trouble means the competitive half of the server is probably going to get jailed sooner or later.
Also, do not trust the 1.1.1 rule. I don't like botters, by all means ban their asses, but it doesn't make sense that innocent people get banned for it.
OH WAIT.
You can pay to get unbanned now. This is a money making scheme from the admin's. VERY CLEVER.
If u wont notice bot in your party - you are retarted( or a bot), and getting banned will actually help you clear your head.
I think its efficient way to make ppl disencourage other ppl to use bots.
As for no flame, dunno if its all kind of flame or just server/gm specific?
Well less qq is fine with me, but it was always funny to see some ppl emoraging.
Seriosly admins why you dont follow the "suggestions " from VaronRojo, and add this shit things, seriosly !
Instead of this you kick him .... OMG.
Well I alredy have annouce that so long this administration stays on RPG, Exodus dint will play here, I hope you change your ruski mind soon..
And why you delete VaronRojo's post from yesterday, there was all the truth with Maxims menssages, and all srious staff that community should know..
u didnt see VJs posts? :D more ppl banned = more ppl will pay for unban = more money, its clear for me :)
this is not a flame, its a fact
Quote from: ssj3 on February 27, 2010, 09:07:54 PM
u didnt see VJs posts? :D more ppl banned = more ppl will pay for unban = more money, its clear for me :)
this is not a flame, its a fact
/agree
We left the server too, HF everybody with the administration incoming decisions :)
VaronRojo's post was perfect for open our eyes about maxim. Poor Alice, and all other admins.
As long as Maxim leaders this project we wont play here
VaronRojo was the only one who tryed to change administrations decisions, and instaend of take a look, they kick them.
Nice
Quote from: Ltd on February 27, 2010, 09:11:49 PM
We left the server too, HF everybody with the administration incoming decisions :)
VaronRojo's post was perfect for open our eyes about maxim. Poor Alice, and all other admins.
As long as Maxim leaders this project we wont play here
and....who are you ? ???
Quote from: Ltd on February 27, 2010, 09:11:49 PM
We left the server too, HF everybody with the administration incoming decisions :)
VaronRojo's post was perfect for open our eyes about maxim. Poor Alice, and all other admins.
As long as Maxim leaders this project we wont play here
VaronRojo was the only one who tryed to change administrations decisions, and instaend of take a look, they kick them.
Nice
who are you?
QuoteVaronRojo was the only one who tryed to change administrations decisions, and instaend of take a look, they kick them.
not the only one and not the only one kicked out for that ;)
Quote from: Шабака on February 27, 2010, 08:43:58 PM
1.1.1 permanent
if your party member was on bot, all thank to him
I hope you realize what consequences this rule will have, half of the people intending to play won't even start and half of the server population will be banned, most of them not by their fault.
@dude commenting about being retarded not noticing a bot, what happens if bot is detected 5 minutes after you join a party?
not to mention difficulty distinguishing boxed character on ingame macros and bot, and many other situations which may lead to banning a player that hasn't done anything wrong or wasn't aware of the bot in his/her party.
Quote from: Coil on February 27, 2010, 09:17:24 PM
QuoteVaronRojo was the only one who tryed to change administrations decisions, and instaend of take a look, they kick them.
not the only one and not the only one kicked out for that ;)
new acc aibo?
Im from, Hatecrew, we wanted to join here silently, but with such and administration server will die soon, like x30 did, and in the future if some new server with this files open, nobady will play here
old news
Quotenew acc aibo?
dunno what you're sayin my good sir, im here for teh dramah ;D
Quote from: Шабака on February 27, 2010, 08:43:58 PM
1.1.1 permanent
if your party member was on bot, all thank to him
Lol face the facts and admit it. That rule is just plenty of stupid, change it for the good of the server.
Quote from: Ltd on February 27, 2010, 09:20:02 PM
Im from, Hatecrew, we wanted to join here silently, but with such and administration server will die soon, like x30 did, and in the future if some new server with this files open, nobady will play here
actualy 30x started with 100-200 ppl and went up to 2700 server didnt fail cause of that , it failled cause there was noone to kill ETC and ppl didnt want to play like that but w/e
Quote from: Ltd on February 27, 2010, 09:20:02 PM
Im from, Hatecrew, we wanted to join here silently, but with such and administration server will die soon, like x30 did, and in the future if some new server with this files open, nobady will play here
that hatecrew that is playing on dex? :D did u alreay failed?
@Ukyo
And u seriously think u will get banned after entering a pt with bot, or after 5 minutes of such party? I guess it was really hard to bot on x30 with such a supreme bot detection :D
@hc/exodus
Wow, u just said u wont join because of strict antibot regulations after complaing other servers were such a bot fest.
I guess when u come with a clan/friends its so hard not to have someone botting in your party to get you all banned.
Maybe this rule is too hard but if they don`t do it this way ppl can just bot support and play with your main, this is the only way they have to ensure nobody will be playing with bots
Quote from: Шабака on February 27, 2010, 08:43:58 PM
1.1.1 permanent
if your party member was on bot, all thank to him
WTF? Now I can't try to make a random party.
srry but u just r looking for money.
Quote from: yaw85 on February 27, 2010, 09:01:35 PM
If u wont notice bot in your party - you are retarted( or a bot), and getting banned will actually help you clear your head.
I think its efficient way to make ppl disencourage other ppl to use bots.
As for no flame, dunno if its all kind of flame or just server/gm specific?
Well less qq is fine with me, but it was always funny to see some ppl emoraging.
+1 qq moar mi cant bot qq
Quote from: yaw85 on February 27, 2010, 09:34:24 PM
@Ukyo
And u seriously think u will get banned after entering a pt with bot, or after 5 minutes of such party? I guess it was really hard to bot on x30 with such a supreme bot detection :D
@hc/exodus
Wow, u just said u wont join because of strict antibot regulations after complaing other servers were such a bot fest.
I guess when u come with a clan/friends its so hard not to have someone botting in your party to get you all banned.
We dont left because of this rule, we left cuz of the administration.
well dude that rule will make ppl to play live , and better for u to find an constant ;)
I trully hope administration will reconsider about this rule.
Quote from: Шабака on February 27, 2010, 08:43:58 PM
1.1.1 permanent
if your party member was on bot, all thank to him
ty for info, i still dont get where is the logic in that but after all its ur server you are free to set the rules and we players are free to choose the server
p.s
if u or other ppl from staff think me/we will wasting 4-5 months here to be banned at lvl 80 because of this rule u are wrong sir
have a nice weekend an gl to all
Quote from: xtM on February 27, 2010, 10:17:32 PM
We dont left because of this rule, we left cuz of the administration.
Left what lol server didnt even started
Quote from: Sant0s on February 27, 2010, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: xtM on February 27, 2010, 10:17:32 PM
We dont left because of this rule, we left cuz of the administration.
Left what lol server didnt even started
You'ill see
Majority is saying the rule should go, if people start getting banned abruptly over this rule, the server will die quicker than the 30x did.
yea, thanks for announcing this and gl.
LF new server (preferably not in a brain damaged country)
if any1 has coppied varon's posts and can send me pls? very curious :)
now feeling like a kid whos been promised a piece of cake and finally realizing that cake was a sand one aoaoaoao
The rule is fine, stop over reacting. Only issue with it is when joining a random party. If ur in such high need to get in a random party, pay attention. You can leave party if u notice anyone boting. If we remove this rule everyone and their grandma will bot themselves support chars.
OMG, please, don't make VaronRojo a martyr or culture hero. He's just a person who doesn't get things from the first time, who has no idea of universal insider information policy and makes forum twinks to bewail himself in this topic.
If I would know this stupid ideas just one week earlier i will be playing on dex now... Hope admins will see it and listen to us. If not, its going to be even more dead than 30x is.
Ok. Lets see. Dual box - allowed, Bots - not.
Party with one live person and 8 boxes = looks like bots.
Some1 made a video, send to admins.
= You got banned becouse of dual boxes.
And i could say even more shitty ideas like spoil 3x chance and 1x amount or drop. 3x chance when you have 70% possibility on 1x... 210% ? O_o and you still gets one material.
Al this disccus isnt about the rules Alice, is about how you Admins are administering the server..
over react? only mods/admins cant see how this rule sux
Quote from: Sant0s on February 27, 2010, 10:37:50 PM
over react? only mods/admins cant see how this rule sux
They have the files , so they dont care about
- this rules
- boss status on main we
- unban bots for money
- and a large etc
and now people is expersing his disspointment
Please explain to us, how does this rule sux? Clear, well thought out answer please. Who ever will continue to spam or flame from now on will get 1 day off to clear their heads. If you can show me a good enough reason i will bring this topic in discussion with the other admins.
it's simple .. don't join random pts ;D
nah i think that rule is quite retarded bcoz they are gonna "punish" many innocent ppl for sure :)
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 10:40:19 PM
Please explain to us, how does this rule sux? Clear, well thought out answer please. Who ever will continue to spam or flame from now on will get 1 day off to clear their heads. If you can show me a good enough reason i will bring this topic in discussion with the other admins.
ima snick into a enemy party with an alt, start to bot call a gm and get them all banned.
And that enemy party is blind? If they are ok with u boting in their party they deserve to get banned. Other examples?
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 10:40:19 PM
Please explain to us, how does this rule sux? Clear, well thought out answer please. Who ever will continue to spam or flame from now on will get 1 day off to clear their heads.
Why we player can never express our dissapointment?
So never will Admins wake up! seriosly im sure that incluing you dont really like how they are administrating the server, but if you say something, you will kicked, like varonrojo for express players opinion
a question now whut will make more dmg to a server - adena donation or even free adena to everyone or this silly rule about banning all pt cause of 1 bot? that will make an impact on how randoms will make parties and so on so on. wtf this game has never been a clan only game and even there you can never know how fair everyone is. this is russia style - allow the buy-out for being banned and make this kind of rule lol. same as give vodka for ppl for free but put them in jail for being drunk in a public place. cmon guys, stop makin a joke of yourselves. this is no flame im just angry cause u r trying to take a cake from a kid!
ban the botters not the fair ppl!
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 10:42:42 PM
And that enemy party is blind? If they are ok with u boting in their party they deserve to get banned. Other examples?
lol why should i tell them im boting?
When bot doesnt stuck on texture you sometiimes can't see that it is a bot. He can be only assisting
Quote from: xtM on February 27, 2010, 10:42:55 PM
Why we player can never express our dissapointment?
So never will Admins wake up! seriosly im sure that incluing you dont really like how they are administrating the server, but if you say something, you will kicked, like varonrojo for express players opinion
Did i tell you ur not allowed to express your opinion? You are free to express how many opinions u want, just don't do it flaming the administration or other users. Also, keep the spam out.
Quote from: reni on February 27, 2010, 10:44:54 PM
When bot doesnt stuck on texture you sometiimes can't see that it is a bot. He can be only assisting
If they can't figure that he's boting, neither will gm. GM are also ppl, they see the same thing u see.
Don't forget that soon a new antibot will be installed. Ofc boting will still be possible, everywhere is. But it will reduce the botting ten fold and there will barely be a need for gm's to bot hunt.
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 10:45:30 PM
If they can't figure that he's boting, neither will gm. GM are also ppl, they see the same thing u see.
New anti bot protection is going to be installed "soon" and it will figure that some1 is boting. Hopefully.
Do what ever you want, its your server but If Admins don't give a f ck with a community we will do the same and this server will end like Azure Celes, 30x etc. We don't wanna this and i think you shouldn't too.
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 10:45:30 PM
If they can't figure that he's boting, neither will gm. GM are also ppl, they see the same thing u see.
Your not getting my point of view.
What if that player start to bot on purpose just to fuck up that party? Is it fair for others to get ban?
And your not getting what i have to say also. IF he starts to bot KICK him from party. If they're unable to recognize if he's boting or not neither will gm and they'll continue to play. Anyway, i really doubt clans will get randoms in their parties when multiple boxing is allowed.
As Sant0s said. I can join enemy clan, get to a party, run bot and whole enemy party will be banned.
That's an extreme situation isn't it? It will not happen, you just trolling.
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 10:42:42 PM
And that enemy party is blind? If they are ok with u boting in their party they deserve to get banned. Other examples?
I'm sorry, but I don't think you quite get it. When they implement some kind of anti-bot, this kind of thing would not matter.
It's also a really good idea, thanks muchly Santos. I will definitely be trying this on enemy parties I really do not like. MIGHT AS WELL GET THEM ALL BANNED.
It's not our fault you miss the folly in this rule, you cannot always know when someone is botting or not. You're blowing the term "botting" out of porportion. This could easily be known as running as Walker while not being AFK, typing and acting like a human being while actions are automated.
Do not bullshit me with how this never happens because it happens more than you know, and when you implement the anti-bot. Whoops, entire party banned. Hey, I had no idea he was using Walker, he was responding just fine to me in chat. Oh well. Lalalalalala. I'll just pay the unban.
Not. You won't get a fucking dime from me if you ban me unjustly, and you won't from anyone else either. Might want to rethink your financial strategies.
Hey I've got an idea. Make an alternate character on a different account, bot it up. Report myself when I'm alone then hang out in enemy parties until I get busted. This qualifies as having a botter in your party, that entire party would then be banned. Pretty cool rule, huh? And that situation isn't extreme at all considering reporting is done through PM's, they'd have no idea I'm about to set them up and rock their world with a mass ban.
Quote from: Sant0s on February 27, 2010, 10:51:21 PM
Your not getting my point of view.
What if that player start to bot on purpose just to fuck up that party? Is it fair for others to get ban?
No its not.
Quote from: reni on February 27, 2010, 10:54:58 PM
As Sant0s said. I can join enemy clan, get to a party, run bot and whole enemy party will be banned.
Yes, you do that, and have fun playing l2.
As i said and i will repeat, IF you have anyone in your party that is boting and your not kicking him from party then you deserve to get banned. If your unable to recognize if he's boting, neither will gm, so no harm done : )
It will. It's L2 all about this game is drama and pvp.
If you can't see our (players) point of view, it will be the best if you just copy/paste some big and sucessfull server rules.
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 10:58:51 PM
As i said and i will repeat, IF you have anyone in your party that is boting and your not kicking him from party then you deserve to get banned. If your unable to recognize if he's boting, neither will gm, so no harm done : )
Read what I said. I have debunked you.
That rule is senseless because somebody could bot in the party and simple fuck up everybody.
Example: Archer's party on IT
Do you think that somebody would notice if the Warlock is AFK, botting or just using a pre-designed macro on his keyboard ?
Same goes for the BD/SwS and even for the archers, on random partys you can be talking or not talking in such case you will probably do not get if somebody is live playing or cheating.
Simple as that.
What's even more strange for me is that as far as I know x30 has always been full of bots and nobody cared about it; what's going on now ? Will you put any kind of donation for unban :o ?
There's no smoke without fire, the actual possition from the staff respect to the players it's senseless, by this way the only thing you will get it's an empty server, belive me I've already seen it :-\
So keep treating us all as fool and you will get your reward even before you open your eyes.
Quote from: Crysillion on February 27, 2010, 10:58:05 PM
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 10:42:42 PM
And that enemy party is blind? If they are ok with u boting in their party they deserve to get banned. Other examples?
I'm sorry, but I don't think you quite get it. When they implement some kind of anti-bot, this kind of thing would not matter.
It's also a really good idea, thanks muchly Santos. I will definitely be trying this on enemy parties I really do not like. MIGHT AS WELL GET THEM ALL BANNED.
It's not our fault you miss the folly in this rule, you cannot always know when someone is botting or not. You're blowing the term "botting" out of porportion. This could easily be known as running as Walker while not being AFK, typing and acting like a human being while actions are automated. Do not bullshit me with how this never happens because it happens more than you know, and when you implement the anti-bot. Whoops, entire party banned. Hey, I had no idea he was using Walker, he was responding just fine to me in chat. Oh well. Lalalalalala. I'll just pay the unban. Not. You won't get a fucking dime from me if you ban me unjustly, and you won't from anyone else either. Might want to rethink your financial strategies.
Hey I've got an idea. Make an alternate character on a different account, bot it up. Report myself when I'm alone then hang out in enemy parties until I get busted. This qualifies as having a botter in your party, that entire party would then be banned. Pretty cool rule, huh? And that situation isn't extreme at all considering reporting is done through PM's, they'd have no idea I'm about to set them up and rock their world with a mass ban.
I also think this is bad way to get some money. This rule allows GM to ban innocent players with the aim to have a good profit from unban service.
BTW Is it allowed to use keybord/nostro macros? Or i would get banned cuz of my keybord assist macro or smthn?
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 10:45:30 PM
Don't forget that soon a new antibot will be installed. Ofc boting will still be possible, everywhere is. But it will reduce the botting ten fold and there will barely be a need for gm's to bot hunt.
yes man this is the solution not some ridiculous rules.... i tell u something.... if someone will get ban for 1.1.1 rule and he is innocent i bet he will pay nothing for unban (usually just those who are guilty paying for that) and he + other ppl will leave the server faster then u think.......
so many qq post
Where'd you go, Michael? You asked for a thorough and senseful reply and I gave you one. Then you up and disappear.
First of all, don't look at my replies as the ones of an admin. I'm a player that wanted this position just so i can help you guys.
BUT, in this case, i really don't see the HUGE deal. Maybe i'm just stupid, but just kick the boter out of the party. If he's pr0 at boting and u can't notice that he's boting NEITHER will the gm.
P.S. This rule won't apply to the bans that will be given by the antibot. If anyone gets banned by the antibot while boting in a party, only he will be banned.
edit:
Quote from: Crysillion on February 27, 2010, 11:05:16 PM
Where'd you go, Michael? You asked for a thorough and senseful reply and I gave you one. Then you up and disappear.
I didn't dissapear. I'm
ONE man trying to keep up with a zerg of unsatisfied players. Don't know who to respond first.
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 10:40:19 PM
Please explain to us, how does this rule sux? Clear, well thought out answer please. Who ever will continue to spam or flame from now on will get 1 day off to clear their heads. If you can show me a good enough reason i will bring this topic in discussion with the other admins.
How do you see the difference between:
1) bot
2) character on ingame macros
3) boxed character that's played every 5 mins
4) afk character that has macro actions set to every 20 mins
Please don't insult people's intelligence, any sane person can see how this rule isn't well thought out.
You say if you don't keep this rule, everyone will bot their supports. What's up with anti-bot protection? What's wrong with simply banning characters that are being botted, you think it would be easy for them to redo supports over and over to certain level? Why not log the IP's that used walker in past and cross reference it with their newly used accounts, would make it so much easier to track botters.
There are so many available options that wouldn't kill the server before it even started. It's your right as owners of this server to pick the rules and it's our right as players to see that it's not worth of playing legit to high levels just to get banned because someone used walker in our party and we had no idea about it.
See the both sides of the coin, it's not so hard.
Do some more work on bot banning and have vivid, active, populated server or have it your current way and have 500 people total playing.
Bottom line to server Administration/Owner/Developers/GM's:
I'm asking you to reconsider the rule 1.1.1. because it will kill your server before it even starts. Not right away, most of the people will try their luck anyway with botting but eventually later, as more and more people get banned, more and more will leave because they'll realize that this rule brings more harm than benefit and in the end you'll have 3 roleplayers left on server.
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Я прошу Вас пересмотреть правила 1.1.1. потому что это убьет ваш сервер в своем распоряжении еще начинается. Не сразу, большинство людей будут испытать свою удачу в любом случае с Botting но в конечном итоге спустя, получить запрещены как все больше и больше людей, все больше и больше будет уходить, потому что они поймут, что это правило приносит больше вреда, чем пользы, и в конце концов вы Л. Л. иметь 3 roleplayers оставлено на сервере.
Quote from: MichaelV on February 27, 2010, 11:06:33 PM
First of all, don't look at my replies as the ones of an admin. I'm a player that wanted this position just so i can help you guys.
BUT, in this case, i really don't see the HUGE deal. Maybe i'm just stupid, but just kick the boter out of the party. If he's pr0 at boting and u can't notice that he's boting NEITHER will the gm.
P.S. This rule won't apply to the bans that will be given by the antibot. If anyone gets banned by the antibot while boting in a party, only he will be banned.
My mistake for the previous comment, showed you as gone but the forum lied. My point still stands.
Bot an alternate character, maybe something the enemy really needs, report myself under proxy as an anonymous bystander, let the report sink in and suddenly start hanging out in enemy parties whenever I'm online.
This will effectively get said enemy party banned.
I patiently await your counter.
My God, i'm sorry i insulted your intelligence. I will bring this topic to discussion with the other mods/admins. IF any change will be decided we will announce it. I will try to give as good as possible explanations of why this rule should be removed. (i still think the rule is ok but because majority hates it we will think about it).
Topic closed (and go chill a little, take a walk, watch a movie or something : ) )