General Settings.
Dualbox ; Not allowed. 1 PC = 1 IP
Donations ; Nothing that can have effect in-game, including name colors, noblesse , 3rd class
Class change ; 1st and 2d class for free, all the others by quest,
Olympiads : Monthly retail
Castle Sieges : every 2 weeks retail
7sings : weekly retail
Rates.
I hope Server is going to be all out retail. Low rate, retail style.
* Normal Monsters: x5x XP/SP, x5x Adena, 3x Seal Stones amount 1x chance
* Raid Bosses: x5 XP/SP, 5x Drop/spoil chance
* Chronicle Bosses: x5 XP/SP, 5x Adena, 1x Drop/spoil
* Treasure Chests: x5 XP/SP, 5x Adena, 1x Drop/spoil
* Drop for basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
* Drop for non-basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
* Spoil for basic mats: x5 chance 1x Amount
* Spoil for for non-basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
List of what I consider basic mats :
* Stem
* Varnish
* Suede
* Animal skin
* Thread
* Iron ore
* Coal
* Charcoal
* Animal bone
* Silver nugget
* Oriharukon ore
* Stone of purity
* Mithril ore
* Admantite nugget
* Braided hemp
* Cokes
* Steel
* Coarse bone powder
* Leather
* Iron thread
* Cord
* High grade suede
* Compound braid
* Oriharukon
* Crafted leather
* Metallic fiber
* Metallic thread
* Mold glue
* Mold lubricant
* Mold hardener
* Metal hardener
* Enria
* Asofe
* Thons
* Durable metal plate.
Epics
random respawn window of 4 hours;
* Antharas: 08d +/- 4h
* Valakas: 08d +/- 4h
* Frintezza: 02d +/- 4h
* Baium: 04d +/- 4h
* Core: 37h +/- 4h
* Queen Ant: 19h +/- 4h
* Orfen: 28h +/- 4h
* Zaken: 40h +/- 4h
Quests:
* Yoke of the Past: x5 Reward Amount (Blank Scroll)
* Fragments of the Dimension: x5 Quest Item Drop Amount (Dimensional Fragment)
* Exploration of Giant's Cave, Part I: x3 Quest Item Drop Rate (Giant's Scroll and Mysterious Book)
* Exploration of Giant's Cave, Part II: x2 Quest Item Drop Rate (Ancient Titan's Book)
* Supplier of Reagents: x3 Quest Item Drop Amount (Reagent Pouch 1-3, Reagent Box, Wyrm's Blood, Lava Stone, Moonstone Shard, Rotten Bone Piece, Demon's Blood, Volcanic Ash, and Quicksilver)
* Legacy of Insolence: x3 Quest Item Drop Amount (Ancient Red Papyrus, Ancient Blue Papyrus, Ancient Black Papyrus, and Ancient White Papyrus)
* Relics of the Old Empire: 1x, retail
* Ketra/Varka Alliance: 2x
* Gather the Flames: 1x, retail
* Paliaka x5
/discuss
indeed, agree with all those, tho i bet most ppl will cry about boxed chars, and admins wont even care about nothing said here
Dualbox should be allowed.
Its 5x, so 1st and 2nd class q. should be in donation list or you need to do it.
Sealstones also 5x.... RB drop 5x is too much.
Material drop/spoil should be 5x amount, 1x chance...for better economy.
Quote from: isuldor on January 18, 2010, 05:45:58 PM
Dualbox should be allowed.
Its 5x, so 1st and 2nd class q. should be in donation list or you need to do it.
Sealstones also 5x.... RB drop 5x is too much.
Material drop/spoil should be 5x amount, 1x chance...for better economy.
Better economy? Explain what u mean with it
Quote from: isuldor on January 18, 2010, 05:45:58 PM
Dualbox should be allowed.
Its 5x, so 1st and 2nd class q. should be in donation list or you need to do it.
Sealstones also 5x.... RB drop 5x is too much.
Material drop/spoil should be 5x amount, 1x chance...for better economy.
how much i know in retail in gracia you can buy 2class, so that q shouldnt be in donation list.
Rb drop i think is normal.
Paliaka 5x
1 PC = 1 Client, not 1 PC = 1 IP. This stops people from playing on LAN or two PCs in a house. This was previously discussed as doing memory checks on the PC, rather than checking IP.
I like that. No dualbox allowed.
face it ya scrubs.
Quote from: pred5 on January 18, 2010, 05:41:44 PM
indeed, agree with all those, tho i bet most ppl will cry about boxed chars, and admins wont even care about nothing said here
Thank you, i know ppl will cry about boxes chars,but i don't care, and admins only looks like they don't care too, but they read everything. BTW I have played in a lot of great community's , all of them l2off servers with more than 1k players and they are still alive because they have choose good server settings and rules, and this is the only way to create a great l2gammers community.
Quote from: cms on January 18, 2010, 06:44:37 PM
I like that. No dualbox allowed.
face it ya scrubs.
Thank you too,
Quote from: xtM on January 18, 2010, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: isuldor on January 18, 2010, 05:45:58 PM
Dualbox should be allowed.
Its 5x, so 1st and 2nd class q. should be in donation list or you need to do it.
Sealstones also 5x.... RB drop 5x is too much.
Material drop/spoil should be 5x amount, 1x chance...for better economy.
Better economy? Explain what u mean with it
5x amount means that if you have chance 70% for 1cbp (for example) you will have 5cbp with 70% chance...that imho much better than 1 cbp with chance 350% ... same style was on azure servers, mats had original chance but x rates amount and there will be best economy i meet on private servers
agree with all except spoildrop chance (+1 to florio) and epic spawn time (they should be kept retail-like...)
Quote from: pred5 on January 18, 2010, 05:41:44 PM
indeed, agree with all those, tho i bet most ppl will cry about boxed chars, and admins wont even care about nothing said here
Plus One to you. Agreed
Quote from: xtM on January 18, 2010, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: isuldor on January 18, 2010, 05:45:58 PM
Dualbox should be allowed.
Its 5x, so 1st and 2nd class q. should be in donation list or you need to do it.
Sealstones also 5x.... RB drop 5x is too much.
Material drop/spoil should be 5x amount, 1x chance...for better economy.
Better economy? Explain what u mean with it
Expensive materials = expensive items= adena will lost power.
Quote from: xtM on January 18, 2010, 05:34:09 PM
Rates.
* Drop for basic mats: x1 Chance 5x Amount
* Drop for non-basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
* Spoil for basic mats: x1 chance 5x Amount
* Spoil for for non-basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
Quests:
* Yoke of the Past: x5 Reward Amount (Blank Scroll)
* Fragments of the Dimension: x5 Quest Item Drop Amount (Dimensional Fragment)
* Exploration of Giant's Cave, Part I: x5 Quest Item Drop Rate (Giant's Scroll and Mysterious Book)
* Exploration of Giant's Cave, Part II: x5 Quest Item Drop Rate (Ancient Titan's Book)
* Supplier of Reagents: x5 Quest Item Drop Amount (Reagent Pouch 1-3, Reagent Box, Wyrm's Blood, Lava Stone, Moonstone Shard, Rotten Bone Piece, Demon's Blood, Volcanic Ash, and Quicksilver)
* Legacy of Insolence: x5 Quest Item Drop Amount (Ancient Red Papyrus, Ancient Blue Papyrus, Ancient Black Papyrus, and Ancient White Papyrus)
* Relics of the Old Empire: 2x
* Ketra/Varka Alliance: 2x
* Gather the Flames: 2x
id change these
ews/eas quests:
Guardians of the Holy Grail: Monk's Scripture - 5x amount
Seekers of the Holy Grail: Pagan's Totem - 5x amount
and loa quest for robes:
Whisper of Dreams, Part I,II: 5x amount
qq
Quote from: xtM on January 18, 2010, 05:34:09 PM
General Settings.
Dualbox ; allowed. 2 box
Donations ; Nothing that can have effect in-game, including name colors, noblesse , 3rd class /agree
Class change ; 1st and 2d class for free, all the others by quest, /agree
Olympiads : Monthly retail /agree
Castle Sieges : every 2 weeks retail /agree
7sings : weekly retail /agree
Rates.
I hope Server is going to be all out retail. Low rate, retail style.
* Normal Monsters: x5x XP/SP, x5x Adena, 5x Seal Stones amount 1x chance
* Raid Bosses: x5 XP/SP, 5x Drop/spoil chance
* Chronicle Bosses: x5 XP/SP, 5x Adena, 1x Drop/spoil
* Treasure Chests: x5 XP/SP, 5x Adena, 1x Drop/spoil
* Drop for basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
* Drop for non-basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
* Spoil for basic mats: x5 chance 1x Amount
* Spoil for for non-basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
List of what I consider basic mats :
* Stem
* Varnish
* Suede
* Animal skin
* Thread
* Iron ore
* Coal
* Charcoal
* Animal bone
* Silver nugget
* Oriharukon ore
* Stone of purity
* Mithril ore
* Admantite nugget
* Braided hemp
* Cokes
* Steel
* Coarse bone powder
* Leather
* Iron thread
* Cord
* High grade suede
* Compound braid
* Oriharukon
* Crafted leather
* Metallic fiber
* Metallic thread
* Mold glue
* Mold lubricant
* Mold hardener
* Metal hardener
* Enria
* Asofe
* Thons
* Durable metal plate.
Epics
random respawn window of 4 hours;
* Antharas: 08d +/- 4h
* Valakas: 08d +/- 4h
* Frintezza: 02d +/- 4h
* Baium: 04d +/- 4h
* Core: 37h +/- 4h
* Queen Ant: 19h +/- 4h
* Orfen: 28h +/- 4h
* Zaken: 40h +/- 4h
Quests:
* Yoke of the Past: x5 Reward Amount (Blank Scroll)
* Fragments of the Dimension: x5 Quest Item Drop Amount (Dimensional Fragment)
* Exploration of Giant's Cave, Part I: x5 Quest Item Drop Rate (Giant's Scroll and Mysterious Book)
* Exploration of Giant's Cave, Part II: x5 Quest Item Drop Rate (Ancient Titan's Book)
* Supplier of Reagents: x5 Quest Item Drop Amount (Reagent Pouch 1-3, Reagent Box, Wyrm's Blood, Lava Stone, Moonstone Shard, Rotten Bone Piece, Demon's Blood, Volcanic Ash, and Quicksilver)
* Legacy of Insolence: x5 Quest Item Drop Amount (Ancient Red Papyrus, Ancient Blue Papyrus, Ancient Black Papyrus, and Ancient White Papyrus)
* Relics of the Old Empire: 2x, retail
* Ketra/Varka Alliance: 2x
* Gather the Flames: 2x, retail
* Paliaka x5
/fixed)
Quote from: 1s1knhjs))) on January 19, 2010, 02:08:56 AM
Quote from: xtM on January 18, 2010, 05:34:09 PM
General Settings.
Dualbox ; allowed. 2 box
Donations ; Nothing that can have effect in-game, including name colors, noblesse , 3rd class /agree
Class change ; 1st and 2d class for free, all the others by quest, /agree
Olympiads : Monthly retail /agree
Castle Sieges : every 2 weeks retail /agree
7sings : weekly retail /agree
Rates.
ahahhaha thank you man
I hope Server is going to be all out retail. Low rate, retail style.
* Normal Monsters: x5x XP/SP, x5x Adena, 5x Seal Stones amount 1x chance
* Raid Bosses: x5 XP/SP, 5x Drop/spoil chance
* Chronicle Bosses: x5 XP/SP, 5x Adena, 1x Drop/spoil
* Treasure Chests: x5 XP/SP, 5x Adena, 1x Drop/spoil
* Drop for basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
* Drop for non-basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
* Spoil for basic mats: x5 chance 1x Amount
* Spoil for for non-basic mats: x5 Chance 1x Amount
List of what I consider basic mats :
* Stem
* Varnish
* Suede
* Animal skin
* Thread
* Iron ore
* Coal
* Charcoal
* Animal bone
* Silver nugget
* Oriharukon ore
* Stone of purity
* Mithril ore
* Admantite nugget
* Braided hemp
* Cokes
* Steel
* Coarse bone powder
* Leather
* Iron thread
* Cord
* High grade suede
* Compound braid
* Oriharukon
* Crafted leather
* Metallic fiber
* Metallic thread
* Mold glue
* Mold lubricant
* Mold hardener
* Metal hardener
* Enria
* Asofe
* Thons
* Durable metal plate.
Epics
random respawn window of 4 hours;
* Antharas: 08d +/- 4h
* Valakas: 08d +/- 4h
* Frintezza: 02d +/- 4h
* Baium: 04d +/- 4h
* Core: 37h +/- 4h
* Queen Ant: 19h +/- 4h
* Orfen: 28h +/- 4h
* Zaken: 40h +/- 4h
Quests:
* Yoke of the Past: x5 Reward Amount (Blank Scroll)
* Fragments of the Dimension: x5 Quest Item Drop Amount (Dimensional Fragment)
* Exploration of Giant's Cave, Part I: x5 Quest Item Drop Rate (Giant's Scroll and Mysterious Book)
* Exploration of Giant's Cave, Part II: x5 Quest Item Drop Rate (Ancient Titan's Book)
* Supplier of Reagents: x5 Quest Item Drop Amount (Reagent Pouch 1-3, Reagent Box, Wyrm's Blood, Lava Stone, Moonstone Shard, Rotten Bone Piece, Demon's Blood, Volcanic Ash, and Quicksilver)
* Legacy of Insolence: x5 Quest Item Drop Amount (Ancient Red Papyrus, Ancient Blue Papyrus, Ancient Black Papyrus, and Ancient White Papyrus)
* Relics of the Old Empire: 2x, retail
* Ketra/Varka Alliance: 2x
* Gather the Flames: 2x, retail
* Paliaka x5
/fixed)
Why start pointless discussions? They won't read your shit anyway or just ignore it like 99% of the stuff on the english forums. Antharas, Valakas and Tezza already got no window and 5x chance for Mats is just retarded.
Donations not affecting in-game!? Even stupid accesories or Birthday Cake does it, don't expect miracles
Come on I'd understand you crying about 1st and 2nd CCQ if it was x30 or x15 rate, but its damned x5 rate and those quests are still part of the game, just like sub noble and 3rd CCQ
Same for 4h epics windows, you've gotta be kidding me. 8h window makes it more fun, and more available for some random clans since not everyone can camp it 8h long
xtM, why the fuck leave an application if you're not going to respond to anything said on it?
Quote from: kasiok on January 19, 2010, 01:17:08 PM
Donations not affecting in-game!? Even stupid accesories or Birthday Cake does it, don't expect miracles
Come on I'd understand you crying about 1st and 2nd CCQ if it was x30 or x15 rate, but its damned x5 rate and those quests are still part of the game, just like sub noble and 3rd CCQ
Same for 4h epics windows, you've gotta be kidding me. 8h window makes it more fun, and more available for some random clans since not everyone can camp it 8h long
Only 8h left window is on anthy/baium, 2nd cs can be done with 3kk in 10 min, some new quest for avoid the old way
Quote from: Pel8 on January 19, 2010, 01:42:15 PM
2nd cs can be done with 3kkk in 10 min, some new quest for avoid the old way
new? Oo
http://forum.pmfun.com/viewtopic.php?p=88257
Quote from: Pel8 on January 19, 2010, 01:56:14 PM
http://forum.pmfun.com/viewtopic.php?p=88257
Props for the info!
Frintezza's respawn is 49 hours, without any + -
Quote from: BadDude on January 19, 2010, 01:43:47 PM
Quote from: Pel8 on January 19, 2010, 01:42:15 PM
2nd cs can be done with 3kkk in 10 min, some new quest for avoid the old way
new? Oo
Alo? Giran Blacksmith quest pay and get 2 class change, retail feature.
don't have time to explain but
1st money > your opinion so you will be able to buy everything that's in 30x gmshop :) for the coins ofc .
2nd 5x amount > 5x chanse
it 1x? wtf? maybe lets do hb/gracia 1x and keep varka ketra 5x because S set in GF is the same as A set in c6 so why to grind so mucho for it?
3rd don't really liked a lot of rates but maybe will post mine later
lol at the copy paste from other server anyway this aint a democracy son, why do you think many people don't see a bright futur to the x5 :D
Quote from: Chris on January 19, 2010, 04:09:06 PM
Quote from: BadDude on January 19, 2010, 01:43:47 PM
new? Oo
Alo? Giran Blacksmith quest pay and get 2 class change, retail feature.
o rly?
i had on my mind that its NOT new, its like 1.5 year old quest.....
no one cares ;D from gm side for shure ::)
best server = retail like - dualbox - bot <3
Quote from: pardi on January 20, 2010, 03:49:53 AM
best server = retail like - dualbox - bot <3
what's wrong with boxing?
Quote from: BadDude on January 20, 2010, 03:16:27 PM
Quote from: Gawain on January 20, 2010, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: pardi on January 20, 2010, 03:49:53 AM
best server = retail like - dualbox - bot <3
what's wrong with boxing?
what's wrong with botting?
Personally i would allow boxing, it doesn't change anything at all. Everyone knows active support > boxed support.
When it comes to botting, it's obvious at least 70% of server population will bot as long as there is no bot protection.
sae as 70% of server population will use dualbox
Quote from: isuldor on January 18, 2010, 05:45:58 PM
Dualbox should be allowed.
Its 5x, so 1st and 2nd class q. should be in donation list or you need to do it.
Sealstones also 5x.... RB drop 5x is too much.
Material drop/spoil should be 5x amount, 1x chance...for better economy.
i doubt this will be in the "official rates" but would be a great change to the system that exists in the 30x
x1 quest rates or no ballz!
everything x5. fuck grinding fuck farming :D
5x ETA. Open in 5 more months.
August 1st 2010.
Quote from: Volume on January 22, 2010, 09:21:28 PM
5x ETA. Open in 5 more months.
August 1st 2010.
who said it?
who care when it will be opened if gms no care about servers? in x30 all week bugs online and gms dont do anything so in x5 will be same just you spend lot time and for what?
Quote from: Pipiras on January 23, 2010, 01:53:46 PM
who care when it will be opened if gms no care about servers? in x30 all week bugs online and gms dont do anything so in x5 will be same just you spend lot time and for what?
bcuz there is no better server for which we could wait?
2nd class transfer shouldnt be free, you dont even have to do the quests on retail anymore
+1 ;D
btw Pardi do u know if any clans from DEX coming to RPG ?
Afaik dex clans will remain on dex (the old one). Rest of clans, from server like azure and w/e will either choose there or here but i have a feeling most of them will go there. It seems for most of people the multitude of bugs is not a problem and having an administration that answers the community questions at least from time to time is better then playing on a server with this files but invisible administration (lately, cause they at least used to respond once a month at first, but now ... nothing).
Quote from: CommunismFTW on January 28, 2010, 12:35:01 PM
Afaik dex clans will remain on dex (the old one). Rest of clans, from server like azure and w/e will either choose there or here but i have a feeling most of them will go there. It seems for most of people the multitude of bugs is not a problem and having an administration that answers the community questions at least from time to time is better then playing on a server with this files but invisible administration (lately, cause they at least used to respond once a month at first, but now ... nothing).
i dont think so, yea there are some clans registered on arion forum... like 2ppl clans :D
Order Of White Wolf - 120+ ! :P
Only decent clan announced there until now is OOWW yes, but still, forum is a few days old. I don't see clans rushing to announce themselves here either. Maybe most of the clans are still on the fence on what to choose and given the reasons above, i believe most of them will choose arion. But i guess we'll have to wait and see...
BUT, i do hope we won't have a zerg of ppl rush this new server. I'd rather have about 5 serious clans and some randoms with no lag then a few dozen l2j clans and a million randoms with pr0 lagz. Let them go there so we can all have fun. They can enjoy their caring (?) administration there and we can enjoy our normal lineage gameplay here, hopefully all without lagz.
Quote from: CommunismFTW on January 28, 2010, 01:20:17 PM
Only decent clan announced there until now is OOWW yes, but still, forum is a few days old. I don't see clans rushing to announce themselves here either. Maybe most of the clans are still on the fence on what to choose and given the reasons above, i believe most of them will choose arion. But i guess we'll have to wait and see...
BUT, i do hope we won't have a zerg of ppl rush this new server. I'd rather have about 5 serious clans and some randoms with no lag then a few dozen l2j clans and a million randoms with pr0 lagz. Let them go there so we can all have fun. They can enjoy their caring (?) administration there and we can enjoy our normal lineage gameplay here, hopefully all without lagz.
personally i dont give a fuck about administration.... i want to play normally and choose class whichever i want without feeling the pain of its bugged skills/features, so if i would like to play on dex i wouldnt be able to choose dagger, glad, tyrant, summoner and few more (almost all) and that makes me consider this server as a lot better.
no comment about implementing gracia epilogue on dex network in even far future with files based on l2j (yes i know they want to do so)
Same for me. Now, if dex would have this files, it would be a whoooole other story, but as of right now the choice is a no brainer in my opinion.
P.S. U missed the most bugged classes there :) kamaels are a disaster on dex.
Quote from: CommunismFTW on January 28, 2010, 03:15:15 PM
Same for me. Now, if dex would have this files, it would be a whoooole other story, but as of right now the choice is a no brainer in my opinion.
P.S. U missed the most bugged classes there :) kamaels are a disaster on dex.
i didnt mention about kamaels bcuz they dont exist there... that custom crap cant be called kamael only bcuz it looks same as kamaels :D
HB > 10 hits / 1 ss GF
dex ftw
Quote from: Hater on January 29, 2010, 05:38:47 AM
HB > 10 hits / 1 ss GF
dex ftw
We will see how dex fairs in that respect :) . Although the hardware for their new server looks pretty bad ass it will still lag if limit will be set up above 3.5k AND if there's going to be so many players there. And although ur probably spot on with the item lag that will also be on 5x here u can't say that yet, maybe administration here REALLY did learned from past mistakes and they will get better badder hardware for the new server. I'm pretty sure that's why they delayed the start date anyway.
They did never reveal the hardware specs on the x30 and for me atm looks like they can`t rlly do anything else, after the server hardware and several attemps to configure sql or other stuff the cap w/o lag increased only 1k players.
Quote from: Pel8 on January 29, 2010, 11:43:22 AM
They did never reveal the hardware specs on the x30 and for me atm looks like they can`t rlly do anything else, after the server hardware and several attemps to configure sql or other stuff the cap w/o lag increased only 1k players.
Still 30x is lagging with 1500 people online....dont look on website,which is lieing
Quote from: Pel8 on January 29, 2010, 11:43:22 AM
They did never reveal the hardware specs on the x30 and for me atm looks like they can`t rlly do anything else, after the server hardware and several attemps to configure sql or other stuff the cap w/o lag increased only 1k players.
there were some post from gm with hardware configuration :)
sry to bother you from your daily discussions but could any of you be more specific regarding the donation system? since we're talking about a 5x server it kind of surprises me that no one has taken this into debate; guess it isn't that game breaking, anyway some more info would be appreciated.
Quote from: Foamy on January 30, 2010, 02:18:30 PM
sry to bother you from your daily discussions but could any of you be more specific regarding the donation system? since we're talking about a 5x server it kind of surprises me that no one has taken this into debate; guess it isn't that game breaking, in anyway some more info would be appreciated.
https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php?topic=2179.0 gm has spoken!! 8) donation close to 30x
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on January 30, 2010, 02:19:23 PM
Quote from: Foamy on January 30, 2010, 02:18:30 PM
sry to bother you from your daily discussions but could any of you be more specific regarding the donation system? since we're talking about a 5x server it kind of surprises me that no one has taken this into debate; guess it isn't that game breaking, in anyway some more info would be appreciated.
https://forumen.rpg-club.net/index.php?topic=2179.0 gm has spoken!! 8) donation close to 30x
closer to 1x
Quote from: Foamy on January 30, 2010, 02:18:30 PM
sry to bother you from your daily discussions but could any of you be more specific regarding the donation system? since we're talking about a 5x server it kind of surprises me that no one has taken this into debate; guess it isn't that game breaking, anyway some more info would be appreciated.
Log ingame, join the x1 server and check up the gm shop. The donation on 5x will be pretty much the same like there, probably with a few small adjustments.
Quote from: CommunismFTW on January 30, 2010, 05:59:37 PM
Quote from: Foamy on January 30, 2010, 02:18:30 PM
sry to bother you from your daily discussions but could any of you be more specific regarding the donation system? since we're talking about a 5x server it kind of surprises me that no one has taken this into debate; guess it isn't that game breaking, anyway some more info would be appreciated.
Log ingame, join the x1 server and check up the gm shop. The donation on 5x will be pretty much the same like there, probably with a few small adjustments.
so i have only 1 question how much does cakes cost in 1x? 8)
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on January 30, 2010, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: CommunismFTW on January 30, 2010, 05:59:37 PM
Quote from: Foamy on January 30, 2010, 02:18:30 PM
sry to bother you from your daily discussions but could any of you be more specific regarding the donation system? since we're talking about a 5x server it kind of surprises me that no one has taken this into debate; guess it isn't that game breaking, anyway some more info would be appreciated.
Log ingame, join the x1 server and check up the gm shop. The donation on 5x will be pretty much the same like there, probably with a few small adjustments.
so i have only 1 question how much does cakes cost in 1x? 8)
too much :(
Quote from: Alice
Adena/Exp/SP: amount x5
SealStones: amount x5
Adena, SealStones: chance 100%
Drop: chance x5
Spoil: chance x3, amount x1
Quest: x5 (not for all quests)
Quest awards: exp x5, adena x5
just one suggestion for spoil.
mats: chance x1, amount 3x
rec,parts,enchants etc: chance 3x, amount 1x
Quote from: pardi on January 30, 2010, 07:19:36 PM
just one suggestion for spoil.
mats: chance x1, amount 5x
rec,parts,enchants etc: chance 5x, amount 1x
fixed
same for drop
If cakes cost mucho i won't donate :-X
Quote
just one suggestion for spoil.
mats: chance x1, amount 5x
rec,parts,enchants etc: chance 5x, amount 1x
+1
Srsly make it 5x lol...
Quote from: gismo on January 30, 2010, 10:42:26 PM
Quote
just one suggestion for spoil.
mats: chance x1, amount 5x
rec,parts,enchants etc: chance 5x, amount 1x
+1
+2? lol
5x its to much. 3x its just perfect.
3x is ok but please, make it 3x AMOUNT not chance. It's far better overall. Only recipes/parts should be 3x chance at spoil.
Quote from: CommunismFTW on January 31, 2010, 12:38:01 AM
3x is ok but please, make it 3x AMOUNT not chance. It's far better overall. Only recipes/parts should be 3x chance at spoil.
enchants aswell
Quote from: gold on January 31, 2010, 12:38:53 AM
Quote from: CommunismFTW on January 31, 2010, 12:38:01 AM
3x is ok but please, make it 3x AMOUNT not chance. It's far better overall. Only recipes/parts should be 3x chance at spoil.
enchants aswell
as i sayd.
mats: chance 1x amount 3x
rec,parts,enchants etc : chance 3x amount 1x
Quote from: pardi on January 31, 2010, 02:54:28 AM
Quote from: gold on January 31, 2010, 12:38:53 AM
Quote from: CommunismFTW on January 31, 2010, 12:38:01 AM
3x is ok but please, make it 3x AMOUNT not chance. It's far better overall. Only recipes/parts should be 3x chance at spoil.
enchants aswell
as i sayd.
mats: chance 1x amount 3x
rec,parts,enchants etc : chance 3x amount 1x
Exactly! Perfect setup. Hope it will be changed like this.
Quote from: CommunismFTW on January 31, 2010, 03:00:26 AM
Quote from: pardi on January 31, 2010, 02:54:28 AM
Quote from: gold on January 31, 2010, 12:38:53 AM
Quote from: CommunismFTW on January 31, 2010, 12:38:01 AM
3x is ok but please, make it 3x AMOUNT not chance. It's far better overall. Only recipes/parts should be 3x chance at spoil.
enchants aswell
as i sayd.
mats: chance 1x amount 3x
rec,parts,enchants etc : chance 3x amount 1x
Exactly! Perfect setup. Hope it will be changed like this.
agree
Quote from: BadDude on January 31, 2010, 03:23:26 AM
agree
i still think that 3x amount is a bit low but its better than 5x chance for sure
Quote from: gold on January 31, 2010, 04:16:04 AM
Quote from: BadDude on January 31, 2010, 03:23:26 AM
agree
i still think that 3x amount is a bit low but its better than 5x chance for sure
yeah, we will have lvls, recipes and NO mats for craft it :D
As it was mentioned countless times before, mats drop/spoil chance should be x1 and ammoun x5, or at least x3. This is best way to scale settings in order to keep stable server economy.
Yeah, need bigger spoil amount for sure. :]
loled at " 5x to much" go and see how much mac you need for dynasti sheald 8)
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on January 31, 2010, 06:22:03 PM
loled at " 5x to much" go and see how much mac you need for dynasti sheald 8)
yeah cus spoiling is the only way to get mats!
Mana potions pls!
Amount 5x Chance 1x for Spoil/drop/Adena/exp/sp. Maybe Adena 100% chance and 4x amount.
i really hope those x5 quest amount aren't for farming quests.
these x5 quest are for soe to giran and fishing shots)
Quote from: Jacky on February 04, 2010, 03:13:24 PM
Mana potions pls!
pm me... i still have some left from last year ;)
Quote from: Jacky on February 04, 2010, 03:13:24 PM
Mana potions pls!
Because in a server w/o a gm shop and rates over 10 you fail?
cough, retail, cough*
Quote from: aYotech on February 05, 2010, 09:04:57 PM
Because in a server w/o a gm shop and rates over 10 you fail?
cough, retail, cough*
x5 will have gm shop
Pel8, to answer your "why you hate ETC so much"
if you check all my post's, im simply answering or replying to ETC kids hating on me, n they just stack up one on top of the other n keep doing it so
i don't hate, no such thing exist on my vocabulary
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x5 will have gm shop
But only with D/C shots,1/2 class change items and donation rewards. I really believe its a true story ;p
Quote from: reni on February 05, 2010, 10:20:04 PM
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x5 will have gm shop
But only with D/C shots,1/2 class change items and donation rewards. I really believe its a true story ;p
i hope gm shop w/o any shots...
would be stupid to leave d/c shots in GM shop on a 5x server lol,gf server economy
oc there wont be shots. It was on 30x cause it was needed :)
I don't know why are you doing from this so super l2jdb l2jlolfree. Please make it more retail-like it should improve healthy gameplay and retail-like environment :)
-Why lowlvl buffer? not needed, there is a triplebox allowed, so why such a thing?
-shots in gmshop? lol why do you discriminate dorfs? !!!!
-why is english ingame font so weird? :X
-as we know it is an international server, will there be a lot of azbuka?
that's all from me :)
Quote from: Malarki on February 14, 2010, 11:32:17 PM
-why is english ingame font so weird? :X
weird? whats weird in this font? same font is on official and no1 complains....
Quote from: Malarki on February 14, 2010, 11:32:17 PM
I don't know why are you doing from this so super l2jdb l2jlolfree. Please make it more retail-like it should improve healthy gameplay and retail-like environment :)
-Why lowlvl buffer? not needed, there is a triplebox allowed, so why such a thing?
-shots in gmshop? lol why do you discriminate dorfs? !!!!
-why is english ingame font so weird? :X
-as we know it is an international server, will there be a lot of azbuka?
that's all from me :)
Have you ever tried to play on 5x?
1)There are no D/C shots in gmshop, it was only on 30x.
2)Who cares about NPC buffer who's is selling buff 20k/each till 40lvl, when we have newbie's buffs up to 61lvl
3)You should go check 30x and you will see. I haven't seen any nicknames in Cyrillic alphabet.
2 - I care
Quote from: 1456 on February 15, 2010, 12:09:23 AM
Quote from: Malarki on February 14, 2010, 11:32:17 PM
I don't know why are you doing from this so super l2jdb l2jlolfree. Please make it more retail-like it should improve healthy gameplay and retail-like environment :)
-Why lowlvl buffer? not needed, there is a triplebox allowed, so why such a thing?
-shots in gmshop? lol why do you discriminate dorfs? !!!!
-why is english ingame font so weird? :X
-as we know it is an international server, will there be a lot of azbuka?
that's all from me :)
Have you ever tried to play on 5x?
1)There are no D/C shots in gmshop, it was only on 30x.
2)Who cares about NPC buffer who's is selling buff 20k/each till 40lvl, when we have newbie's buffs up to 61lvl
3)You should go check 30x and you will see. I haven't seen any nicknames in Cyrillic alphabet.
ok, if it's so it's ok, but i still don'T get WHY there is the npc buffers :D it's weir it has no reason, ppl should get their own buffs for more cooperation.... i wanna play some support char...and i like playing in party...so why this? :D
AND ingame font is not Retail-like...i'll post screen !
Quote from: BadDude on February 15, 2010, 12:01:22 AM
Quote from: Malarki on February 14, 2010, 11:32:17 PM
-why is english ingame font so weird? :X
weird? whats weird in this font? same font is on official and no1 complains....
-RETAIL FONT
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg21.imageshack.us%2Fimg21%2F4774%2Fretailw.jpg&hash=373fa0d3b624f49d7cdfb049ab0a6cde4c8d9344)
-RPG FONT
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg9.imageshack.us%2Fimg9%2F2721%2Frpgp.jpg&hash=ced12cdf8773ce0288a6aec4df8fe106538cc324)
I just want to ask if it can be changed, because the ratail font is better, ofc i just ask im not complaining or st. :)
Quote from: Malarki on February 15, 2010, 10:36:54 AM
ok, if it's so it's ok, but i still don'T get WHY there is the npc buffers :D it's weir it has no reason, ppl should get their own buffs for more cooperation.... i wanna play some support char...and i like playing in party...so why this? :D
That buffer sells buffs only to max level 40 so you're safe. That npc is useless and most probably it won't even be included.
since when retail servers have spawn protection? oO
dude dont post screens from some lolservers and say its retail......
anyway i just checked my screens from teon and ye its a lil different, i think it can be changed by usilng l2fileedit.
who cares about a freaking font ....really...Verdana FTW :P
Quote from: BadDude on February 15, 2010, 11:19:40 AM
since when retail servers have spawn protection? oO
dude dont post screens from some lolservers and say its retail......
anyway i just checked my screens from teon and ye its a lil different, i think it can be changed by usilng l2fileedit.
-omg i didn't say that's ratail server I just said it is rateil font :D
- ok i'll try it with fileedit ty
Then show us a pic from retail, u want us to take ur word for it? :)
Anyway, rpg's font looks better for me, the letters are smaller.
Retail Font if it matters :))
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg10.imageshack.us%2Fimg10%2F184%2Fshot00002nz.jpg&hash=b7789130ff80714faa876013d1bfaef62d6ff755)
Quote from: Malarki on February 15, 2010, 11:14:55 AM
Quote from: BadDude on February 15, 2010, 12:01:22 AM
Quote from: Malarki on February 14, 2010, 11:32:17 PM
-why is english ingame font so weird? :X
weird? whats weird in this font? same font is on official and no1 complains....
-RETAIL FONT
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg21.imageshack.us%2Fimg21%2F4774%2Fretailw.jpg&hash=373fa0d3b624f49d7cdfb049ab0a6cde4c8d9344)
-RPG FONT
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg9.imageshack.us%2Fimg9%2F2721%2Frpgp.jpg&hash=ced12cdf8773ce0288a6aec4df8fe106538cc324)
I just want to ask if it can be changed, because the ratail font is better, ofc i just ask im not complaining or st. :)
Do fonts really matter? Is there really a difference between New Times Roman and Arial?
Rpg-club is using russian official servers font.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUawhjxLS2I
you mean this font ? ::)
Who care about font...
Will be much better if notifications have smaller frequency...
When i go sleep with open shops, i cant read any PM from friends/clan mates cuz i have spamed every chat with this CRAP.
Make it 1xnotification per hour(2hour) or dunno... All know urls, where report bugs, where votes, etc.. cmon who need it every 20min?
Quote from: gismo on February 16, 2010, 03:06:13 AM
Who care about font...
Will be much better if notifications have smaller frequency...
When i go sleep with open shops, i cant read any PM from friends/clan mates cuz i have spamed every chat with this CRAP.
Make it 1xnotification per hour(2hour) or dunno... All know urls, where report bugs, where votes, etc.. cmon who need it every 20min?
u can use mails :)