Im just wondering. I've seen plenty times weapons with elementals which I couldnt justify. For example:
HD+dark or FB+fire or FB+wind or AM+earth etc.
Recently Ive seen FB+MW+F+5+150 wind. Honestly speaking I've got no idea why some1 have put this ele. Water would still sounds reasonable since TK has some skill to boost water ele (wow, +20 ele :P). I can also explain holy in every case (PvE weapon) but wind on FB is for me totally weird. Same with AM - the only reason I can see to put earth ele is having nuke aug, but if some1 had earth nuke aug then why the hell he wants to sell it?
May be they are old weapons, that people used to PvP before. Long age was easy cheaper to put fire/water, so most of the people put this resist on armors so enemy make earth/wind weapons to counter them.
Even now fire/water is most common resist.
Mate - fb+150wind is for SK - SOS gives you +20 wind attribute.
That`s why you saw that.
what is SOS?
AM+earth - maybe he was a bishop or elven elder and got earth nuke augment.
fb +fire its ok . u will hit so hot like fire . problem???
Earth on AM can be also good for a WC or as above said, for the old reasons (weak earth resists).
Quote from: Maro79 on May 24, 2011, 12:51:22 PM
Mate - fb+150wind is for SK - SOS gives you +20 wind attribute.
That`s why you saw that.
I think 20 atri wont make a big difference while SK has drains, judgement and maybe sth else. OK, in fact both can be used with AM dark, but still I think dark is better choice for FB (cheaper, easier to sell etc.)
Quote from: dreph on May 24, 2011, 02:33:50 PM
AM+earth - maybe he was a bishop or elven elder and got earth nuke augment.
Thats what I thought about - then the question is: why is he getting rid of it? Hard for me to believe he already has 3 new icarus/versper weapons with nuke aug.
Quote from: yoker on May 24, 2011, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: Maro79 on May 24, 2011, 12:51:22 PM
Mate - fb+150wind is for SK - SOS gives you +20 wind attribute.
That`s why you saw that.
I think 20 atri wont make a big difference while SK has drains, judgement and maybe sth else. OK, in fact both can be used with AM dark, but still I think dark is better choice for FB (cheaper, easier to sell etc.)
Quote from: dreph on May 24, 2011, 02:33:50 PM
AM+earth - maybe he was a bishop or elven elder and got earth nuke augment.
Thats what I thought about - then the question is: why is he getting rid of it? Hard for me to believe he already has 3 new icarus/versper weapons with nuke aug.
Yes - but if you have enemy with 120 dark resist and you have 150 dark - you have only 30 dark more.
If you have 150 wind + 20 from SOS = you have 170 and enemy has 120 = so you have 50 more attribute damage
Drains are magic like LS and FS, etc. - so better to have AM for them - higher Matack - higher chance to land and dmg.is a bit higher - FB is for sting / judgement / normal hits.
Quote from: yoker on May 24, 2011, 11:48:58 AM
Im just wondering. I've seen plenty times weapons with elementals which I couldnt justify. For example:
HD+dark or FB+fire or FB+wind or AM+earth etc.
Recently Ive seen FB+MW+F+5+150 wind. Honestly speaking I've got no idea why some1 have put this ele. Water would still sounds reasonable since TK has some skill to boost water ele (wow, +20 ele :P). I can also explain holy in every case (PvE weapon) but wind on FB is for me totally weird. Same with AM - the only reason I can see to put earth ele is having nuke aug, but if some1 had earth nuke aug then why the hell he wants to sell it?
AM+150 earth = dworf with enchanted stun and having active heal on that am.
Quote from: trn on May 24, 2011, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: yoker on May 24, 2011, 11:48:58 AM
Im just wondering. I've seen plenty times weapons with elementals which I couldnt justify. For example:
HD+dark or FB+fire or FB+wind or AM+earth etc.
Recently Ive seen FB+MW+F+5+150 wind. Honestly speaking I've got no idea why some1 have put this ele. Water would still sounds reasonable since TK has some skill to boost water ele (wow, +20 ele :P). I can also explain holy in every case (PvE weapon) but wind on FB is for me totally weird. Same with AM - the only reason I can see to put earth ele is having nuke aug, but if some1 had earth nuke aug then why the hell he wants to sell it?
AM+150 earth = dworf with enchanted stun and having active heal on that am.
lol
Nothing wrong with FB+Fire or FB+Wind, AM+Earth was maybe an old AM with Earth attack thats all
Anyway there is no rules for fighter weapon, you pick one and you hide it, no one care about +20 element bonus with some skill (Ofc class who can enchant skills with element will never pick Dark or Holy or at least not in this chronicle but rest are all free !)
what would be an earth nuke aug? ???
Stone
Quote from: JaCoX on May 24, 2011, 07:28:11 PM
what would be an earth nuke aug? ???
Boulder - Strongest nuke IG :) it cast like aura flash , has magic dmg of 125 if i remember corectly but had it only on hellbound so maby it is changed since then and it came from best lf 80 lvl at that time :)
Quote from: ...MinDiuSe... on May 25, 2011, 07:40:18 AM
Quote from: JaCoX on May 24, 2011, 07:28:11 PM
what would be an earth nuke aug? ???
Boulder - Strongest nuke IG :) it cast like aura flash , has magic dmg of 125 if i remember corectly but had it only on hellbound so maby it is changed since then and it came from best lf 80 lvl at that time :)
cool story bro
how about HD+150 water !!??wtf?
Quote from: ufoc on May 31, 2011, 04:01:44 PM
how about HD+150 water !!??wtf?
DB and his RI enchanted on water element
Strange elementaled weapon is:
Fist with +150/300 dark
Anw, at H5, type of element wont matter since every1 will have +270 resist to all, before adding buffs, and players should switch to Duel/Power enchants.
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 05:55:37 PM
Anw, at H5, type of element wont matter since every1 will have +270 resist to all, before adding buffs, and players should switch to Duel/Power enchants.
Not really, going duel/power makes sense only at really high OE (like +25 at least)
Quote from: yoker on May 31, 2011, 08:34:25 PM
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 05:55:37 PM
Anw, at H5, type of element wont matter since every1 will have +270 resist to all, before adding buffs, and players should switch to Duel/Power enchants.
Not really, going duel/power makes sense only at really high OE (like +25 at least)
and going element makes sense only for mobs
Quote from: yoker on May 31, 2011, 08:34:25 PM
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 05:55:37 PM
Anw, at H5, type of element wont matter since every1 will have +270 resist to all, before adding buffs, and players should switch to Duel/Power enchants.
Not really, going duel/power makes sense only at really high OE (like +25 at least)
can u be more clueless? :D
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 09:33:34 PM
Quote from: yoker on May 31, 2011, 08:34:25 PM
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 05:55:37 PM
Anw, at H5, type of element wont matter since every1 will have +270 resist to all, before adding buffs, and players should switch to Duel/Power enchants.
Not really, going duel/power makes sense only at really high OE (like +25 at least)
can u be more clueless? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYbGw582CBk&feature=related
now hide in your cave please
stab +30 duel is just slightly stronger than +30 atri. At +20 or lower its actually weaker.
Not every skill is better on duel bros
rush impact chance++
no, because on h5 you need dmg from RI, rather than stun
RI +15 chance vs good player is still chance 10%
Quote from: Derik on June 01, 2011, 01:41:55 AM
no, because on h5 you need dmg from RI, rather than stun
RI +15 chance vs good player is still chance 10%
nice
Quote from: yoker on May 31, 2011, 11:57:23 PM
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 09:33:34 PM
Quote from: yoker on May 31, 2011, 08:34:25 PM
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 05:55:37 PM
Anw, at H5, type of element wont matter since every1 will have +270 resist to all, before adding buffs, and players should switch to Duel/Power enchants.
Not really, going duel/power makes sense only at really high OE (like +25 at least)
can u be more clueless? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYbGw582CBk&feature=related
now hide in your cave please
stab +30 duel is just slightly stronger than +30 atri. At +20 or lower its actually weaker.
25% is not much for u? np
and still we kno shiet about that guy atri def
Quote from: yoker on May 31, 2011, 11:57:23 PM
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 09:33:34 PM
Quote from: yoker on May 31, 2011, 08:34:25 PM
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 05:55:37 PM
Anw, at H5, type of element wont matter since every1 will have +270 resist to all, before adding buffs, and players should switch to Duel/Power enchants.
Not really, going duel/power makes sense only at really high OE (like +25 at least)
can u be more clueless? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYbGw582CBk&feature=related
now hide in your cave please
stab +30 duel is just slightly stronger than +30 atri. At +20 or lower its actually weaker.
I am curious, what damage bonus u will be getting from +300 dagger with +30 elementaled skill with total value of 330 element, vs target with 270 of same element. whats the difference? 60 element? Whats the dmg bonus of that, since NCsoft reduced elemental influence on damage in PvP in h5? I'd say... 10-15% at best. From other hand dagger blows are the worst example to give from ur side since their damage mostly is comming from critical damage modifiers.
Read on Blah (could have been post by Diego) and some other forums that duel is profitable at quite high OE (like +25 as I said). Took me a while to find link to youtube fraps posted above, ain't gonna spend more to search for more proofs. Do what you want I dont give a fcuk, for me you can go even for cost.
to tread author: then server starts there was only one chance to get dark stones from quest, so all pty make stones to our slh, so i made fb+fire. I hope u understand
ok, it makes sense :P
Quote from: Ginger on June 02, 2011, 09:18:24 AM
Quote from: yoker on May 31, 2011, 11:57:23 PM
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 09:33:34 PM
Quote from: yoker on May 31, 2011, 08:34:25 PM
Quote from: Ginger on May 31, 2011, 05:55:37 PM
Anw, at H5, type of element wont matter since every1 will have +270 resist to all, before adding buffs, and players should switch to Duel/Power enchants.
Not really, going duel/power makes sense only at really high OE (like +25 at least)
can u be more clueless? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYbGw582CBk&feature=related
now hide in your cave please
stab +30 duel is just slightly stronger than +30 atri. At +20 or lower its actually weaker.
I am curious, what damage bonus u will be getting from +300 dagger with +30 elementaled skill with total value of 350 element, vs target with 270 of same element. whats the difference? 80 element? Whats the dmg bonus of that, since NCsoft reduced elemental influence on damage in PvP in h5? I'd say... 10-15% at best. From other hand dagger blows are the worst example to give from ur side since their damage mostly is comming from critical damage modifiers.
and same as crit modifiers it was influenced by element in gf
but still 43-149 ele bonus is 20% so +15 duel skill make it up