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Title: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: ayozito on May 11, 2011, 10:53:44 PM
As title said, what rate is there? ppl told me everything... x1, x5, x15! xD
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: brts on May 11, 2011, 11:13:03 PM
Adena/XP/SP: amount х15
Seal Stones: amount х15
Adena, Seal Stones: chance 100%
Drop: chance х10, amount х1
Spoil: chance х10, amount х1
Quest items drop: amount  х5 (not all quests)
Quest rewards: XP х5, Adena х5
RB drop: chance х5, amount  х1, Adena х5
Epic drop:  chance х1, amount  х1, Adena х5
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: ojkaipsukaposiujus on May 11, 2011, 11:14:36 PM
Quote from: brts on May 11, 2011, 11:13:03 PM
Adena/XP/SP: amount х15
Seal Stones: amount х15
Adena, Seal Stones: chance 100%
Drop: chance х10, amount х1
Spoil: chance х10, amount х1
Quest items drop: amount  х5 (not all quests)
Quest rewards: XP х5, Adena х5
RB drop: chance х5, amount  х1, Adena х5
Epic drop:  chance х1, amount  х1, Adena х5

ur post is useless
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: brts on May 11, 2011, 11:22:21 PM
Quote from: ojkaipsukaposiujus on May 11, 2011, 11:14:36 PM
Quote from: brts on May 11, 2011, 11:13:03 PM
Adena/XP/SP: amount х15
Seal Stones: amount х15
Adena, Seal Stones: chance 100%
Drop: chance х10, amount х1
Spoil: chance х10, amount х1
Quest items drop: amount  х5 (not all quests)
Quest rewards: XP х5, Adena х5
RB drop: chance х5, amount  х1, Adena х5
Epic drop:  chance х1, amount  х1, Adena х5

ur post is useless
sorry bro, i just wanted to help
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: ayozito on May 12, 2011, 02:09:21 AM
so then i don't understand one thing (i started this topic due to this).

http://base.l2j.ru/graciafinal/index.php?p=1&id=22337
http://base.l2j.ru/graciafinal/index.php?p=1&id=22340


As you can see, they should drop always atods and they don't.
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: myzor on May 12, 2011, 03:43:51 AM
http://base.rpg-club.net/#db.monster.main.22337#
and
http://base.rpg-club.net/#db.monster.main.22340#
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: ayozito on May 12, 2011, 04:28:51 AM
that must be wrong because 0'3%? are you kidding me? xD   and check chimeras.. 0.6%?
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: Endeavor on May 12, 2011, 05:11:57 AM
from personal experience, the only thing which is 15x in HB is the xp/sp, drops are all 1x. Which is normal since if u make drops 15x or even 5x it will be to high, stones from chims will drop way too often, they already drop often enuf.
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: HatefulEvil on May 14, 2011, 09:01:25 PM
x15 should be x15
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: Endeavor on May 14, 2011, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: HatefulEvil on May 14, 2011, 09:01:25 PM
x15 should be x15

no it should not be or else stones from chims will drop with 30% chance, lol that will fuck up alot of things.
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: Alexandrina on May 14, 2011, 09:48:21 PM
atods drop x1 ? Do you think this is normal ? played on a server that was x4 and still it was really slowly to collect enough for s80 , so if atod drop is really x1 this will be a big joke !
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: ayozito on May 16, 2011, 02:42:32 AM
just have been on arcanes and they drop atods well 100%, and on base.rpg-club.net it show that rate is 0.7% so... as i said that web is wrong.

But now i am wondering why in some places drop is as it should (chimeras, arcane) and in other no (sandstorm, scorpions..).
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: Endeavor on May 16, 2011, 06:39:53 AM
dunno why the server's drop site has the wrong info, but if you are wondering what the drop chance for atods are, here check this link http://lineage.pmfun.com/item/9599/ancient-tome-of-the-demon.html, u can see here they are 50%++ on most mobs which is how it was on retail when it was gf and that is how it is here. Those rates are for a 1x retail server, and HB here has 1x drop chance.
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: ayozito on May 16, 2011, 12:18:22 PM
thats what i said some post before...

Quote from: ayozito on May 12, 2011, 02:09:21 AM
so then i don't understand one thing (i started this topic due to this).

http://base.l2j.ru/graciafinal/index.php?p=1&id=22337
http://base.l2j.ru/graciafinal/index.php?p=1&id=22340


As you can see, they should drop always atods and they don't.
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: Ident on May 21, 2011, 04:07:50 AM
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fm%2F228%2F7278%2Frpggamebase15.jpg&hash=81f4adc7ddf9de1eaa3df2e458b2f807849873a1)

or type 10 for #1
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: DrunDrun on May 26, 2011, 07:03:22 PM
imo make Dimensional fragment drop x5 or encrease the rate  ::)
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: Alexandrina on June 12, 2011, 07:57:25 PM
Exp - x15
Drop - x10
Spoil - x10
Drop ATOD - x1

..........

Can a GM explain why is x1? You though that may be x5 will be too big number? I though the point of playing on x15 rate server is not to farm dynasty like in official .... Give some answer , because I guess Im too stuped to understand the idea for x1 drop rate! Thank you
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: venduj on June 13, 2011, 12:53:31 AM
it is x1 because warlord is doing 1k atods per 40mins on x1
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: Alexandrina on June 13, 2011, 05:04:06 AM
blame NCsoft for this ! And the others without warlord what to do ? I think this is one of the reason players to leave, but this is other thing.
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: satanko on June 13, 2011, 03:47:53 PM
lol ppl leaving cuz of hard hb :D if u solo in pagans for 4 days ull get enough adena from drops to buy a dyna set :D
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: ...MinDiuSe... on June 14, 2011, 12:28:37 AM
Quote from: satanko on June 13, 2011, 03:47:53 PM
lol ppl leaving cuz of hard hb :D if u solo in pagans for 4 days ull get enough adena from drops to buy a dyna set :D
it's more fun to craft your own items
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: Alexandrina on June 14, 2011, 11:15:48 PM
Ok lets make some calculations!

For dynasty robe set you need:

Recipe       HFP    HSP    DCF      Parts(18)    HFP    HSP    DCF
Tunic          200     498     50                               954     2340   72
Stocking     125    313      31                              648      1602   162
Circlet         100    249     25                               486      1260    144
Gloves        67      161     17                               360      900       108
Shoes         67      161     17                               360      900       108

ALL - 12 485

If every tome give me exactly what i need ill need 12 485

If i farm every day 3 hours with nuker party, not AOE and party is random (not finder keeper) how many tomes ill make per day? lets say 100 (even its too high)

so 12 485:100 = 124.85

SO ill need around 125 days to make all recipes and parts that i need

3 months !!!!!! And this calculations are with a lot "IF"
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: venduj on June 14, 2011, 11:53:48 PM
sry what? for robe set u need +-580dcf ( items u get from opening tomes) max, which is +- 5800 tomes ( items droping from hb mobs )

ninjaedit:  dcf amount edited
http://www.pirateninjas.net/index.php?s=hellbound  ( u will need to roll the page down little bit )
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: klingi on June 14, 2011, 11:57:48 PM
Quote from: venduj on June 14, 2011, 11:53:48 PM
sry what? for robe set u need +-480dcf ( items u get from opening tomes) max, which is +- 4800 tomes ( items droping from hb mobs )
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: zosiek on June 15, 2011, 12:50:36 AM
np on h5 ull make dyna sets daily, even boxes will wear them ; o
recs set on x1 on den of evil<light> is 730~ qis mobs dies in 4 shots and drop qi wit 60-70% rate
parts u spoil with omg rate

i think devs will need to add some multiply to atods so it will be worth going hb at all
and no exp on hb is not that cool, if u compare solo spots from epiloge+++ 50k/mob @ den of evil x1 rate sooo.... atods x15 or no point <ps: dyno wont be s80 set anymore so +1 more argument for it >
Title: Re: HB drop rate is x1 or x15?
Post by: Soul` on June 15, 2011, 05:32:30 PM
coolppl