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Title: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: doudoudou on May 07, 2011, 07:02:14 PM
Wondering what can be the right certificate as SK.

All advice are welcome.
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Shattered on May 07, 2011, 07:30:32 PM
I have on HK Resist Trait, Trigger Haste, Passive Focus. All other to +M.Def
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: ayozito on May 07, 2011, 10:43:38 PM
i never played main tank, but if i do it... i would go for haste, summoner and....prolly focus.
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Mikko on May 08, 2011, 01:44:10 PM
There is MANY people that say that the "Resist Trait" Skill does not work, I understand that you like the bonus on resist stun for an SK but with territory war jewels of Aden and/or Innadrid and the earring from olympiad +20% Stun resist it's pretty good.

In my opinion you should never get Resist Trait.

For having played SK Since the beggining of this server, I will say with no doubt that the 2 most usefull certificates you can get are Warrior Haste and Passive Focus.

There is alot of choice for your 3rd one, many that are good and since "switching" is only 10 millions adenas it's easy to change depending on what you want to do, here's my Top 5 choice for 3rd certificate.

#5 - Resist Element (If you have 60/60/60/60 in your armor set, the additional 5 will cut dmg of ppl with 150 weapon)
#4 - Warrior CP Boost
#3 - Trigger Focus (Only usefull if you want to increase critical from Pole, mostly for trains and/or if you have a very good critical skill EG. Icarus Trident with SA Critical Stun)
#2 - Trigger Celestial (It's usefull when you are doing trains, in oly it's not very usefull and if you have a healer you cannot be healed normally when celestial shield triggers, it also prevents you from using elixirs, so overall, its the first certificate I had, and changed it for Spirit after I realized it wasn't that good. But I would switch it on and off if I do trains at Hellbound)
#1 - Summoner Spirit (Very usefull in oly, for leveling up doing pole aoe and for mass pvp and 9vs9 since you are hitting alot with your normal hits and hope for alot of criticals to win pvp's with SK.)

For emergent abilities I suggest all Physical Attack. But every single option is good.

As for dyes, I suggest in all cases +5 STR with a combination of -CON and -DEX and for the WIT/INT I didn't test +INT yet to see if Lightning Strike would land more or the difference in damage with Drain Health and/or if Vampire Cubic and Debuff from Phantom are affected by the INT but I went +4WIT -4INT because you can buff faster in oly, you cast cubics faster and I don't think the -INT matters this much.

My dyes : +3STR -3DEX +2STR -2CON +4WIT -4INT with IC SET it's a total of +7STR -5DEX -2CON +4WIT -4INT and my Critical rate is still over 350 with FB Masterwork No SA.
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Shattered on May 08, 2011, 01:59:39 PM
+4STR +4 DEX ftw
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: satanko on May 08, 2011, 02:07:17 PM
shatt, u do know that in GF that warrior resist gives u + chance of getting debuff not lowering right?
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Shattered on May 08, 2011, 02:12:40 PM
Where u found it? +5% ressist to Stun, Para, Sleep, Hold
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Mikko on May 08, 2011, 02:18:34 PM
+DEX on tank, you're terrible :P

CON increases Stun resistance, gives HP + CP, weight bonus...

I took a level 80 SK and compared stats between -8CON +4 STR +4 DEX to +5STR -3DEX -2CON

Critical Rate : 159 - 153 -> So that's 6 critical difference...
Attack Speed : 447 - 420 -> Wow 27 attack speed more lol.
Speed : 143 - 135 -> That's probably the only notable advantage, 8 Speed difference
Evasion 108 - 105 -> 3 more Evasion... not really worth anything
HP : 3289 - 3911 -> 622 HP Less, big loss.
CP :1973 - 2346 -> 375 CP Less, so VERY CLOSE to 1000 less HP for pvp...

You NEED the CON for Tank, but not enough to go +CON because you do need the STR for critical damage and attack power. IMO -8CON is worse way to set dyes for tanks.
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Shattered on May 08, 2011, 02:21:13 PM
Y thats why even TheStig, DontLookAtMe, Turamart and all good tanks have same dyes?
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Mikko on May 08, 2011, 02:22:03 PM
Quote from: Shattered on May 08, 2011, 02:12:40 PM
Where u found it? +5% ressist to Stun, Para, Sleep, Hold

its not +5%, its +5. Fortitude Toggle gives +30 stun resist and paralysis resist, it's not 30%.
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: satanko on May 08, 2011, 02:23:20 PM
Quote from: Shattered on May 08, 2011, 02:12:40 PM
Where u found it? +5% ressist to Stun, Para, Sleep, Hold
ask pretty much anyone who has any sort of gf experience on retail, or sweep blah old topics, in this chronicle it did not help, in fact it was fucking you over.
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Shattered on May 08, 2011, 02:25:00 PM
Fck...good to know, thanks :P Gonna change
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: kvaser on May 09, 2011, 03:19:22 AM
 i am not often reading bullsh1t on rpg forums because i am not playing here anymore but this post is good. Cersts for sk: Haste / passive focus and spirit. Dyes + str-con and dex So make it all what Mikko said and u will make a good Shilen Templar. ahhh but for all sacred things dont take health weapon:) only focus count. and make atribute + wind:) + for u Mikko
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Shattered on May 09, 2011, 09:11:29 AM
Nice, now i know his atibutes, brb makin 300 wind ic set
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: doudoudou on May 09, 2011, 04:41:35 PM
look good, thanks all for advice.
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: kvaser on May 10, 2011, 04:05:44 PM
Quote from: Shattered on May 09, 2011, 09:11:29 AM
Nice, now i know his atibutes, brb makin 300 wind ic set

at weapon smartass
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Bulle on May 10, 2011, 07:45:00 PM
Mucho bullshit in this topic !
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: Shattered on May 10, 2011, 08:33:23 PM
Quote from: kvaser on May 10, 2011, 04:05:44 PM
Quote from: Shattered on May 09, 2011, 09:11:29 AM
Nice, now i know his atibutes, brb makin 300 wind ic set

at weapon smartass

And? Read it again
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: losiakus on May 10, 2011, 09:36:42 PM
Quote from: kvaser on May 10, 2011, 04:05:44 PM
Quote from: Shattered on May 09, 2011, 09:11:29 AM
Nice, now i know his atibutes, brb makin 300 wind ic set

at weapon smartass

/facepalm
Title: Re: Shillien templar certificate
Post by: miou on May 11, 2011, 02:38:57 PM
on my HK i used:

trigger haste
passive focus
Long Range
+6x P.Atk

+4dex+4str+4wit -8con-4int