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Title: Question about SWM
Post by: Foquinha on March 29, 2011, 02:42:57 AM
Hello guys, best dyes, best wep for pve, best wep for pvp
and Special Abilitie in weapons
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 29, 2011, 02:45:29 AM
+5str -5dex or -5con
as+haste, icarus disperser+focus, vesper shaper+haste
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Foquinha on March 29, 2011, 02:48:03 AM
oh i forgot, to mention S grade only, no S80/S84

and without sa what weapons should i use too
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 29, 2011, 02:50:21 AM
so as+haste and make it pvp for cancel on  pvp
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: LordJames on March 29, 2011, 03:15:22 AM
DB also
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Foquinha on March 29, 2011, 03:18:18 AM
Quote from: LordJames on March 29, 2011, 03:15:22 AM
DB also

the thing about DB is the way i play it wastes a lot of mana
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: satanko on March 29, 2011, 04:10:28 AM
soulfire dirk + mana up
any health weapon
as 150 pvp
- str all the way
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: LordJames on March 29, 2011, 04:26:47 AM
Quote from: Foquinha on March 29, 2011, 03:18:18 AM
Quote from: LordJames on March 29, 2011, 03:15:22 AM
DB also

the thing about DB is the way i play it wastes a lot of mana
its not for pve,just pvp sometimes and ofc DB=more patk than AS=better silence land
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: dpms ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on March 29, 2011, 06:55:29 AM
dyes do not matter as long as you have a clown fish head ;]
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Nistar on March 29, 2011, 09:51:31 AM
Quote from: Foquinha on March 29, 2011, 02:42:57 AM
Hello guys, best dyes, best wep for pve, best wep for pvp
and Special Abilitie in weapons
i took +5con -5str and learned fighter will, so p atk loss of -5str was covered by that, and hp has rissen a lot.  (to almost 15k with health weapon and ~12 without it.). And for pve - get a wolf or party, which has damage dealers.

about weapon - as+haste, or you can use fists+health (fist are better for pvp - much better accuracy, more hp, more hits, so cancel triggers more frequently. About shield - noone will hit swm, it is last target in pvp, unless you keep mage\dagger on agro.)
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 29, 2011, 12:46:05 PM
-str?

when ppl will finally realise u wont make tank from sws?

+str all da way

weapons as i said in 2nd post and bow+foc
/razielfirmed
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Sardy on March 29, 2011, 02:10:06 PM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 29, 2011, 12:46:05 PM
+str all da way
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Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: losiakus on March 29, 2011, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 29, 2011, 12:46:05 PM
-str?

when ppl will finally realise u wont make tank from sws?

+str all da way

weapons as i said in 2nd post and bow+foc
/razielfirmed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T27aGFjAXD0
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 29, 2011, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: trn on March 29, 2011, 09:51:31 AM
Quote from: Foquinha on March 29, 2011, 02:42:57 AM
Hello guys, best dyes, best wep for pve, best wep for pvp
and Special Abilitie in weapons
i took +5con -5str and learned fighter will, so p atk loss of -5str was covered by that, and hp has rissen a lot.  (to almost 15k with health weapon and ~12 without it.). And for pve - get a wolf or party, which has damage dealers.

about weapon - as+haste, or you can use fists+health (fist are better for pvp - much better accuracy, more hp, more hits, so cancel triggers more frequently. About shield - noone will hit swm, it is last target in pvp, unless you keep mage\dagger on agro.)
then for what u need tons of hp? sws/bd are not tanks and never will be even close to that
with 12k hp or 15k hp that doesnt matter, unless mage is on enli he wont kill u with 12k hp same as he wont kill u with 15k hp, so maximize ur dps

w/e make -str and be totally useless or make +str and make some dmg http://i51.tinypic.com/c3mkw.jpg
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: sergeidracuenov on March 29, 2011, 04:44:57 PM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 29, 2011, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: trn on March 29, 2011, 09:51:31 AM
Quote from: Foquinha on March 29, 2011, 02:42:57 AM
Hello guys, best dyes, best wep for pve, best wep for pvp
and Special Abilitie in weapons
i took +5con -5str and learned fighter will, so p atk loss of -5str was covered by that, and hp has rissen a lot.  (to almost 15k with health weapon and ~12 without it.). And for pve - get a wolf or party, which has damage dealers.

about weapon - as+haste, or you can use fists+health (fist are better for pvp - much better accuracy, more hp, more hits, so cancel triggers more frequently. About shield - noone will hit swm, it is last target in pvp, unless you keep mage\dagger on agro.)
then for what u need tons of hp? sws/bd are not tanks and never will be even close to that
with 12k hp or 15k hp that doesnt matter, unless mage is on enli he wont kill u with 12k hp same as he wont kill u with 15k hp, so maximize ur dps

w/e make -str and be totally useless or make +str and make some dmg http://i51.tinypic.com/c3mkw.jpg


dex?
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 29, 2011, 04:45:52 PM
here we go again? no argumens? start flaming server?
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Sardy on March 29, 2011, 05:02:21 PM
QuoteRecommend 0/0

:'(
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Foquinha on March 29, 2011, 07:34:24 PM
Please leave flame to the minimum, im trying to learn here a bit please
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: yoker on March 29, 2011, 08:32:49 PM
Actually I'd leave it w/o any dies. If I was forced to put any I'd go +str/-dex. -str/+con is biggest possible fail.
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: dpms ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on March 31, 2011, 01:22:42 AM
pretend your a girl and never worry about items again.
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Elitepvper on March 31, 2011, 03:36:58 AM
+ 3 str - 3 con + 2 str - 2 dex + 4 wit - 5 int


dagger with pvp (haste) and a bow focus holy element both
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: satanko on March 31, 2011, 07:56:03 AM
its kinda ridiculos to try to make sws a dd when its a on this chronicle atleast nothing more than a song spammer + agro/cancel char
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 10:48:53 AM
Quote from: satanko on March 31, 2011, 07:56:03 AM
its kinda ridiculos to try to make sws a dd when its a on this chronicle atleast nothing more than a song spammer + agro/cancel char
no its, not check my screen and think if u want shot :) y i know im bd but sws has not that much lower dps
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Hater ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on March 31, 2011, 10:51:32 AM
ur talking about l2j server bro
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: ph0cuz ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on March 31, 2011, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: Hater on March 31, 2011, 10:51:32 AM
ur talking about l2j server bro
With a +20 Drac bow, gtfo razielle
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 03:12:14 PM
Quote from: Hater on March 31, 2011, 10:51:32 AM
ur talking about l2j server bro
i was the same bd on all srvs, keep hating files

Quote from: ph0cuz on March 31, 2011, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: Hater on March 31, 2011, 10:51:32 AM
ur talking about l2j server bro
With a +20 Drac bow, gtfo razielle
its +16, and its one of 7 on 5 years old srv, u rly shouldt comment this since u have there db+16 after 3 months oh wait i forget hlapex working
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: losiakus on March 31, 2011, 09:33:47 PM
leave raziel alone, he thinks 500dmg  he does with his uber bd its better than keeping dd's in enemy party on agro lock :<
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 09:49:45 PM
500 dmg  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
since when u cant hit after agro?

rpg community still delivering
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: losiakus on March 31, 2011, 09:56:16 PM
fugazi
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Riselie4 on March 31, 2011, 10:34:53 PM
Riselie says (9:30 pm):
*http://i51.tinypic.com/c3mkw.jpg
*='D
*H@H@H@ he's claiming to be DD
BeachCherry says (9:31 pm):
*rofl the idiot
*he even got polearm
*he's god
Riselie says (9:32 pm):
*: dddddddddddddd

Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 10:39:20 PM
yeam im pretending to be dd, rpg bd pretending to be vegetables thats why they couldnt kill me on cb even when i had no buffs

yeah i have polearm, u dont know for what? l2p then
i have even boss set with valakas on bd, u jelly?
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: sNd ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on March 31, 2011, 10:58:08 PM
riselie and beach forever friends
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: lblackeagle on March 31, 2011, 11:03:21 PM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 10:39:20 PM
yeam im pretending to be dd, rpg bd pretending to be vegetables thats why they couldnt kill me on cb even when i had no buffs

yeah i have polearm, u dont know for what? l2p then
i have even boss set with valakas on bd, u jelly?
i would be jelly if it was on any other server but wrath
derp
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 11:06:28 PM
simple hater...or just idiot id say
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Riselie4 on March 31, 2011, 11:13:52 PM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 10:39:20 PM
yeam im pretending to be dd, rpg bd pretending to be vegetables thats why they couldnt kill me on cb even when i had no buffs

yeah i have polearm, u dont know for what? l2p then
i have even boss set with valakas on bd, u jelly?
you sound mad

Quote from: sNd on March 31, 2011, 10:58:08 PM
riselie and beach forever friends
yes.
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 11:15:52 PM
yes im mad coz i was killing my competitiors w/o buffs :)
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: lblackeagle on March 31, 2011, 11:34:26 PM
i dont think anyone actually believes what ure saying
son
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 11:39:30 PM
Quote from: lblackeagle on March 31, 2011, 11:34:26 PM
i dont think anyone actually believes what ure saying
son
i had no cancel dagger and sup, 27 wins w/o dagger, what u say?

(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi55.tinypic.com%2F97qtnd.jpg&hash=695bb4694098d08a6f67486931ff1eb2e315100c)
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: lblackeagle on March 31, 2011, 11:48:32 PM
i say derp and link u to hero monument
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: ph0cuz ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on March 31, 2011, 11:51:06 PM
Its a shame he wasnt able to dominate rpg club CB. Would have one more metaphoric trophy to brag about on another servers forums.
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 11:53:53 PM
if winning 27 fights w/o using dagger at my side is not dominating then i dunno what is, eot
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: lblackeagle on March 31, 2011, 11:55:20 PM
failing to get hero afterwards is winning duhhh, winninnn



Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 31, 2011, 11:57:10 PM
geting hero with feed is winning
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: lblackeagle on April 01, 2011, 12:02:24 AM
u mean fighting vs evaa everytime we met is feeding? ok son
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 01, 2011, 12:05:37 AM
no i mean making ninja cb and not joining my cb in last 10 days
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: ph0cuz ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on April 01, 2011, 12:08:26 AM
Oh god people didn't conform to raziel's schedule for true bd heroes. What a sad moment.
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 01, 2011, 12:14:56 AM
varka s80 pvper talking hahaha
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: lblackeagle on April 01, 2011, 12:17:56 AM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 01, 2011, 12:05:37 AM
no i mean making ninja cb and not joining my cb in last 10 days

in last 4 weeks u mean
btw sick points with 27/6 stats, son
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 01, 2011, 12:26:40 AM
Quote from: lblackeagle on April 01, 2011, 12:17:56 AM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 01, 2011, 12:05:37 AM
no i mean making ninja cb and not joining my cb in last 10 days

in last 4 weeks u mean
btw sick points with 27/6 stats, son
last fight i lost for 8 points which is frapsed, rest -10 every
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: lblackeagle on April 01, 2011, 12:35:45 AM
that was pre oly fix
i like how we go back to this topic every month or two
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 01, 2011, 12:40:42 AM
Quote from: lblackeagle on April 01, 2011, 12:35:45 AM
that was pre oly fix
i like how we go back to this topic every month or two

mby, then i lost even more but i was under 100 anyway
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: dpms ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on April 01, 2011, 12:57:49 AM
27 wins
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: losiakus on April 01, 2011, 01:36:48 AM
Quote from: lblackeagle on March 31, 2011, 11:48:32 PM
i say derp and link u to hero monument

Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: HaugeH on April 01, 2011, 05:26:29 AM
Dominating oly while losing to girls and boxed chars if thats not dominating i dont know what it is
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: ph0cuz ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on April 01, 2011, 05:45:09 AM
Quote from: HaugeH on April 01, 2011, 05:26:29 AM
Dominating oly while losing to girls and boxed chars if thats not dominating i dont know what it is
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Bulle on April 01, 2011, 05:57:27 AM
So hurtful Haug !
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: TheGrEEk on April 01, 2011, 09:35:59 AM
its an aMUSEing thread :)
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 01, 2011, 10:52:27 AM
who care to what i lost? i lost 6 from 33 fights being w/ lol gear
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Nistar on April 01, 2011, 12:55:06 PM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 01, 2011, 10:52:27 AM
who care to what i lost? i lost 6 from 33 fights being w/ lol gear
so you are noob, if you hadn't at least dagger + cancel. Even lolSWM's had it :< 2
how the hell 79times hero couldn't have it?????????
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: HaugeH on April 01, 2011, 01:56:40 PM
<<<3333 eyo
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Foquinha on April 01, 2011, 10:07:38 PM
please stick to the topic, leave flames
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 01, 2011, 11:39:08 PM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 29, 2011, 02:45:29 AM
+5str -5dex or -5con

and we can close this topic
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: satanko on April 02, 2011, 09:34:30 AM
raziel is taught never to surrender it seems XD still keeps pushing hes retard theory :D
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 02, 2011, 04:01:19 PM
retarded theory mby for u, u r playing every srv on different class, and on every class u r failing im playing sd for 4 years and at least on one char im best, and no its not my opinion, its opinion all ppl that played with me and against me
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Nistar on April 02, 2011, 05:15:12 PM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 02, 2011, 04:01:19 PM
retarded theory mby for u, u r playing every srv on different class, and on every class u r failing im playing sd for 4 years and at least on one char im best, and no its not my opinion, its opinion all ppl that played with me and against me

You played with noobs against even bigger noobs.
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Riselie4 on April 02, 2011, 05:29:19 PM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 02, 2011, 04:01:19 PM
im playing sd for 4 years and at least on one char im best
'nuff said ;xxx
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: ph0cuz ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on April 02, 2011, 07:17:16 PM
How much is there to possibly know playing a BD? Don't mean to demean all the legitimate BD's but honestly, hope medusa lands and cancel?
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: dpms ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on April 02, 2011, 07:21:51 PM
while your giving tips, would you mind making us a guide for swms with build suggestions and play styles like you have done with your class?

i found the bd guide very inspiring.
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: NoThisSh1tAgain on April 02, 2011, 07:41:56 PM
Quote from: ph0cuz on April 02, 2011, 07:17:16 PM
How much is there to possibly know playing a BD? Don't mean to demean all the legitimate BD's but honestly, hope medusa lands and cancel?
thats on cb ;p

Quote from: drtpipemlkshk on April 02, 2011, 07:21:51 PM
while your giving tips, would you mind making us a guide for swms with build suggestions and play styles like you have done with your class?

i found the bd guide very inspiring.
build is the same for both bd and sws
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: dpms ✿◕ ‿ ◕✿ on April 02, 2011, 07:54:27 PM
yeah but it would be nice if you could revamp your bd guide with appropriate pictures and skill info for swm
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: venduj on April 02, 2011, 08:06:18 PM
song of silence + song of wind + dr bow >  medusa + cancel
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Riselie4 on April 02, 2011, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: drtpipemlkshk on April 02, 2011, 07:54:27 PM
yeah but it would be nice if you could revamp your bd guide with appropriate pictures and skill info for swm
trolling all the way to Texas
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Bulle on April 02, 2011, 11:09:42 PM
Josh stop making fun of people
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Gezas on April 02, 2011, 11:38:35 PM
kill the elf, cut down the mother tree, make a camp fire from it and bake some good quality unicorn meat for dinner
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: tb on April 04, 2011, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: ph0cuz on April 02, 2011, 07:17:16 PM
How much is there to possibly know playing a BD? Don't mean to demean all the legitimate BD's but honestly, hope medusa lands and cancel?
same as with all other chars?
L2 is about gear and few basic "know how"

every class can be played the "easy way" and the "pr0 way" ...
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: Dziejowa on May 13, 2011, 06:37:52 PM
I want to ask about certificate for swm. Better will be haste from Warior or  Critical Chance from Rouge??
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: m4dc0wdisease on May 13, 2011, 08:59:15 PM
warrior - haste
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: sEEEEb on May 13, 2011, 09:19:19 PM
Quote from: NoThisSh1tAgain on March 29, 2011, 02:45:29 AM
+5str -5dex or -5con
as+haste, icarus disperser+focus, vesper shaper+haste
This is only good when you're in a fighter CP.
In a mage CP you gotta max-out your HP with -STR + CON and spam aggression on enemys DDs/Mages so you take the damage instead of your party members.

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: JuS on May 14, 2011, 06:58:26 AM
Quote from: satanko on March 29, 2011, 04:10:28 AM
soulfire dirk + mana up
any health weapon
as 150 pvp
- str all the way

this. first one if you'r in mage cp, second mele
Title: Re: Question about SWM
Post by: qwertyu on May 14, 2011, 03:00:26 PM
Quote from: JuS on May 14, 2011, 06:58:26 AM
Quote from: satanko on March 29, 2011, 04:10:28 AM
soulfire dirk + mana up
any health weapon
as 150 pvp
- str all the way

this. first one if you'r in mage cp, second mele
no