Question: why did some1 removed that bug topic?
Once more. I want to report a bug. Imho its mayority matter for the futre of this server.
During the items lag, some ppl use one GIANTS CODEX/GIANT CODEX MASTERY to enchant more than 1 skill. The same is possible in adding atributes, taking quests rewards etc etc etc.
Pls, repiar that/do something with lags, or much more ppl will go to other servers...
Cheers.
if its true administration delete plz this bug and make fast recoil server :(
P.S. i see yesterday this top but another user create it, today im not see this topic, delete him ? qq
lol etc was cleaning thing yesterday... like "nobody will belive that" "gm checked all" :P
topic was removed by some1, dunno who did this. Imo it is to important thing to leave that be.
If u dont want to heave dead server like others, do something quick!
Not to mention that ppl get banned on forum for asking why similar topic was deleted.
and i used like moron 12 mastery books on 12 enchants QQ
lol
i lost 10-12 giants book yesterday QQ :(((
and make enchant 1-1 :(((
What administration make now? Ban all players or make recoil server ?
stop trying to exploit the lag. you darn russians.
imo the server is dead already :/ a lot o ppl will leave soon, maybe even whole clans... :( Thx a lot!
Quote from: Bubbleh on January 05, 2010, 02:17:39 PM
stop trying to exploit the lag. you darn russians.
what you care about rus? have problem?
translate?
we all have problem
Quote from: Arris on January 05, 2010, 12:05:07 PM
Not to mention that ppl get banned on forum for asking why similar topic was deleted.
Thx gm for ban on my first nick rexa and pls answer on my question:
Why the 1st post about bug using on lags was deleted?
Quote from: re-xa on January 05, 2010, 05:02:23 PM
Quote from: Arris on January 05, 2010, 12:05:07 PM
Not to mention that ppl get banned on forum for asking why similar topic was deleted.
Thx gm for ban on my first nick rexa and pls answer on my question:
Why the 1st post about bug using on lags was deleted?
Whot u think? :> Maybe they was konw about this bug from the begining server (like ETC)
Quote from: Nickola on January 05, 2010, 05:20:48 PM
Quote from: re-xa on January 05, 2010, 05:02:23 PM
Quote from: Arris on January 05, 2010, 12:05:07 PM
Not to mention that ppl get banned on forum for asking why similar topic was deleted.
Thx gm for ban on my first nick rexa and pls answer on my question:
Why the 1st post about bug using on lags was deleted?
Whot u think? :> Maybe they was konw about this bug from the begining server (like ETC)
jealousy has no end :D all the time the same stuff ... O.o he has big oed skill he must be bugger ... O.o he pwned me he must be using some kind of bug cause its not possible ...
Can you read with understand of text???
Quote from: Nickola on January 05, 2010, 05:34:51 PM
Can you read with understand of text???
ye, i guess you dont understand english.
No comments from admins? WTF? Looks like admins tottaly dont care about this hugeee problemitto, is it so rly hard to fix those damns lags? Server will die if so...
Quote from: Bulwyf on January 05, 2010, 06:17:08 PM
No comments from admins? WTF? Looks like admins tottaly dont care about this hugeee problemitto, is it so rly hard to fix those damns lags? Server will die if so...
They said is some problem with sql will be fixed in 2-3 days
and +++ enchanst skills on lolchars with b grade, all certyfication skills in 1 char too? or leave it?
Quote from: bjorn on January 05, 2010, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: Nickola on January 05, 2010, 05:20:48 PM
Quote from: re-xa on January 05, 2010, 05:02:23 PM
Quote from: Arris on January 05, 2010, 12:05:07 PM
Not to mention that ppl get banned on forum for asking why similar topic was deleted.
Thx gm for ban on my first nick rexa and pls answer on my question:
Why the 1st post about bug using on lags was deleted?
Whot u think? :> Maybe they was konw about this bug from the begining server (like ETC)
jealousy has no end :D all the time the same stuff ... O.o he has big oed skill he must be bugger ... O.o he pwned me he must be using some kind of bug cause its not possible ...
Bjorn n/c
If u are etc member u know for sure, that ur clan is using that bug. The only 1 thing im not sure is since when they started.
C'mon answer me, why when there are a item lags, all ur heros shout:
"WTB KE 900k each!" "WTB MASTERY CODEX" "WTB BOGS" etc
and u cant find this stuff on market? One friend checked that on his box. From one mastery during 15 sec item lag he enchanted 77 lvl skill to + 18. l2 off, no bugs, all stuff working? I dont think so...
if you wouldnt be on server like maybe a month you would see that they are shouting it all the time, now when they got heroes, they have money and are buying. Whats so freakin hard to understand about that? Just keep your smart thoughts for yourself cause they make you look like a idiot.
Im playing here long enough u know. Imo u are just one of pro etc bugers who have all skills enchanted 20+ and u are scared to lose that. But if only there will be a willingness, and GMs wont cover that, u guys will have to play like other players: FAIR.
Quote from: zomg1 on January 05, 2010, 08:56:43 PM
Im playing here long enough u know. Imo u are just one of pro etc bugers who have all skills enchanted 20+ and u are scared to lose that. But if only there will be a willingness, and GMs wont cover that, u guys will have to play like other players: FAIR.
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Go ahead and ask a GM about our Skillenchants, because we got tons of BOGS from our Castles and Heroes and not like farming KE for safe enchant bogs is hard. 2000 KE / Fortress, sup?
Quote from: zomg1 on January 05, 2010, 08:56:43 PM
Im playing here long enough u know. Imo u are just one of pro etc bugers who have all skills enchanted 20+ and u are scared to lose that. But if only there will be a willingness, and GMs wont cover that, u guys will have to play like other players: FAIR.
:DD man u make me laugh. there was such crying once i think. Crying about a high oed skill, it was tested and their cryin failed. exactly like your fail posts.
Yeah, sure... U guys should consider that u will stay alone on this server coz of that enchants. PPl are leaving already. Who will u fight against? 95% heroes, baium, aq, antharas, valakas, whole HB for u. No PvP at all. If u like farm in l2 u are on the best way to become farmers of the century ETC.
Quote from: zomg1 on January 05, 2010, 10:31:58 PM
Yeah, sure... U guys should consider that u will stay alone on this server coz of that enchants. PPl are leaving already. Who will u fight against? 95% heroes, baium, aq, antharas, valakas, whole HB for u. No PvP at all. If u like farm in l2 u are on the best way to become farmers of the century ETC.
Go run through HB at least once, u will see many parties there and not from ETC. Have you ever been on this server?
zomg you have no clue what you are talking about.
get a clue .
cheers.
Quote from: zomg1 on January 05, 2010, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: bjorn on January 05, 2010, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: Nickola on January 05, 2010, 05:20:48 PM
Quote from: re-xa on January 05, 2010, 05:02:23 PM
Quote from: Arris on January 05, 2010, 12:05:07 PM
Not to mention that ppl get banned on forum for asking why similar topic was deleted.
Thx gm for ban on my first nick rexa and pls answer on my question:
Why the 1st post about bug using on lags was deleted?
Whot u think? :> Maybe they was konw about this bug from the begining server (like ETC)
jealousy has no end :D all the time the same stuff ... O.o he has big oed skill he must be bugger ... O.o he pwned me he must be using some kind of bug cause its not possible ...
Bjorn n/c
If u are etc member u know for sure, that ur clan is using that bug. The only 1 thing im not sure is since when they started.
C'mon answer me, why when there are a item lags, all ur heros shout:
"WTB KE 900k each!" "WTB MASTERY CODEX" "WTB BOGS" etc
and u cant find this stuff on market? One friend checked that on his box. From one mastery during 15 sec item lag he enchanted 77 lvl skill to + 18. l2 off, no bugs, all stuff working? I dont think so...
well that is pro, i also wtb options to enchant 3rd class skills for more then +15
Hmm maybe at last the gm's can do something and chack this logs isnt so hard find who was enchanting on lag so!! where r the gms ( ye ye ban next preson for asking)
Quote from: Nickola on January 06, 2010, 12:16:38 AM
Hmm maybe at last the gm's can do something and chack this logs isnt so hard find who was enchanting on lag so!! where r the gms ( ye ye ban next preson for asking)
they are fixing lags ;D
fu...k lags i asking about lags enchating!!
By all skills on +20 i was thinking about 2nd prof skills >.< nvm
Yeah, sure there are parties on HB, im going there often too. It doesnt change much imo. U still have imba enchanted skills. There are a lot of ppl who dont know about that bug yet. But they will find out soon.
more than that, ofc there are random parties on HB, so what? They will fight with u on baium, antharas, sieges? I dont think so ETC morons. U need at least 2 good clans on this server for heaving fun.
Nvm, discussion here with u is pointless. Ppl know about that bug, more ppl will know soon. Im only asking GMs to check that and inform us about what was going on. And ofc i hope that u will do something with ppl who were enchanting skills in that way.
Show us some screen / video about this bug. If you dont have any evidence, stfu and stop write bullshits about ETC :)
Quote from: xLloth on January 06, 2010, 02:12:02 AM
Show us some screen / video about this bug. If you dont have any evidence, stfu and stop write bullshits about ETC :)
Trash talk.
lold, its not hard... just when items lags become high (~15sec) go and spam enchant skill button. After end of lag bog will dissapear BUT wtf omfg zomg - skill was enchanted multiple times.
It's shame that server core of l2off dont have any security against this kind of exploit.
Also probably server logs dont contain detailed about skill enchantig so track of exploters will be impossible/very hard.
So lets all ppl make them skill +100 then it will at last balanced ! QQ
(to gms: it's bug report, not tutorial)
Quote from: kornes on January 06, 2010, 03:02:34 AM
lold, its not hard... just when items lags become high (~15sec) go and spam enchant skill button. After end of lag bog will dissapear BUT wtf omfg zomg - skill was enchanted multiple times.
It's shame that server core of l2off dont have any security against this kind of exploit.
Also probably server logs dont contain detailed about skill enchantig so track of exploters will be impossible/very hard.
So lets all ppl make them skill +100 then it will at last balanced ! ^^
yo mr. smartass :) server logs contain evidence about enchanting ... love ppl who dont have a clue
there is "detailed" word, mr. smartass.
so as some1 said before - read with understand ~.~
Quote from: kornes on January 06, 2010, 03:13:28 AM
there is "detailed" word, mr. smartass.
enough to proove if its normal made or with your imaginary bug
Quote from: bjorn on January 06, 2010, 03:14:48 AM
Quote from: kornes on January 06, 2010, 03:13:28 AM
there is "detailed" word, mr. smartass.
enough to proove if its normal made or with your imaginary bug
Buy bog and test by urself on trash char then u will stop that smurf.
Imo its better for server to be down till fix of sql problems.
nah, after that bug report, server suddenly went down (during last night for about 1-2 hours). After that my ping get lower from 186 to 96, and i dont have lags all day long. Imo there is no chance to balance server. Or maybe there is no will to do that?
And stop sh!t talking etc. U know, we know, gm's probbably know that too. U ALL WERE USING THAT BUG.
Quote from: zomg1 on January 06, 2010, 04:05:55 AM
nah, after that bug report, server suddenly went down (during last night for about 1-2 hours). After that my ping get lower from 186 to 96, and i dont have lags all day long. Imo there is no chance to balance server. Or maybe there is no will to do that?
And stop sh!t talking etc. U know, we know, gm's probbably know that too. U ALL WERE USING THAT BUG.
and we all know youre an idiot with a brain of a hamster :D
Quote from: bjorn on January 06, 2010, 03:14:48 AM
Quote from: kornes on January 06, 2010, 03:13:28 AM
there is "detailed" word, mr. smartass.
enough to proove if its normal made or with your imaginary bug
You are just stupid as hell, aren't you? Multiple people reports the same bug or confirms its existence. And you are playing dumb saying that it is "imaginary bug".
EDIT: This bug can sink this server yet it seems that none of the GMs/Admins care. Good job... it will lead (or it already did) to completely destruction of server balance and ppl are already discouraged by it.
Quote from: Arris on January 06, 2010, 04:39:47 AM
Quote from: bjorn on January 06, 2010, 03:14:48 AM
Quote from: kornes on January 06, 2010, 03:13:28 AM
there is "detailed" word, mr. smartass.
enough to proove if its normal made or with your imaginary bug
You are just stupid as hell, aren't you? Multiple people reports the same bug or confirms its existence. And you are playing dumb saying that it is "imaginary bug".
EDIT: This bug can sink this server yet it seems that none of the GMs/Admins care. Good job... it will lead (or it already did) to completely destruction of server balance and ppl are already discouraged by it.
give one fakin evidence such bug exists and is not made up by those ppl you write about. are you at least thinking? people can write every crap which comes into their minds. ppl run with high oed skills that doesnt prove they bugged something. you wanna tell me, that its not possible to make a high oe skill? go to a official server and check the chars, which were sold there. all had such oed skills, you would be crying like a baby facing such chars here. so dont complain, if youre so sure about such a bug, make a screen, write a petition or anythin to prove your point. if you have none just shut up and crawl back to your hole. you ppl are so annoying, writing crap without any ... once again .. any evidence. butthurt kids shouldnt be allowed to play l2.
can i use this bug to get few s grade recipes from fog ? ::)
or ketra/varka
It's just funny to see butthurt people like zomg1 crying about everything, because they can't do a shit on the Server and can't proof a shit. The people with high OE skills in ETC got their skills for like 1-2 Months now and they were not bugging. I say it again, go ahead and ask some GM to check the logs because it's possible to track every fucking enchant and item. Every Item got his own separate item number and gms can easy check it how often people used 1 item for multiple enchants and skillenchants.
Quote from: darkflame on January 06, 2010, 08:47:10 AM
It's just funny to see butthurt people like zomg1 crying about everything, because they can't do a shit on the Server and can't proof a shit. The people with high OE skills in ETC got their skills for like 1-2 Months now and they were not bugging. I say it again, go ahead and ask some GM to check the logs because it's possible to track every fucking enchant and item. Every Item got his own separate item number and gms can easy check it how often people used 1 item for multiple enchants and skillenchants.
TRUE
Stop ppl flaming . Lets wait for gm's Answer
easier to check is who has too much skills from subclass
p.s it's not next flame topic about etc idiots. Many people in many clans used that bug
oh etc u scared? QQ moar and gtfo with ur skills +28 enchanted by 2-3 codex mastery...
Quote from: Prince on January 06, 2010, 10:29:37 AM
oh etc u scared? QQ moar and gtfo with ur skills +28 enchanted by 2-3 codex mastery...
Yes we are scared, thats why we say let a GM check our Skillenchant Logs. Dude you make no sense ...
As for the bug itself. I'm not sure - haven't logged in to 30x for weeks.
However, seems like there are quite few people telling that it does exist.
As thinking for logic, it could exist, since lag-is-lag. It makes things to work less accurate as they spouse to.
Wouldn't really surprised if it was true after all.
And if bug did existed, and ETC knew about it - THEY DID EXPLOIT IT. Just saying.
<3 Toxic
Quote from: iPKu on January 06, 2010, 11:24:06 AM
As for the bug itself. I'm not sure - haven't logged in to 30x for weeks.
However, seems like there are quite few people telling that it does exist.
As thinking for logic, it could exist, since lag-is-lag. It makes things to work less accurate as they spouse to.
Wouldn't really surprised if it was true after all.
And if bug did existed, and ETC knew about it - THEY DID EXPLOIT IT. Just saying.
<3 Toxic
We didnt exploit single bug and we never will, go cry somewhere else pls.
If ppl know what are mastery books and how many bogs, nobody with brain could be crying about some skill enchants in our clan lol, actually I think we are pretty low and unlucky in skill enchanting.
BTW I cant even imagine how can lag help ppl enchant skills it doesnt make sence at all.
OMG Jacky.......R U sure for all your clan mates?I think no,U cannot swear this....and if U dont believe this exploit,U R just blind an U dont wanna see it.....here is manual for U:
1) w8 for our beloved lags
2) take some bogs/masterys and go to your skill enchant NPC
3) if U have more than 1 bog/mastery, keep just 1 in your inv and put others for ex to your wolf
4) press enchant skill which U wanna enchant and immediately start enchanting other skills with the same bog/mastery(maybe it works for the same skill too)
5)your bog/mastery will disappear after few seconds bcs of lags.....
still dont understand this?I dont think so.And for ex,one my friend get 52+52 badges in TW before more than month so this bug/xploit is here for long time....so some rollback is pointless. I am interested how many ppls used it...and now Jacky when U know how to do it,buy muchoooooooooo masterys and hurry to enchant so U will not be late against your clan mates :-*
How does lagging items help u to get to +30 skills, u are retarded...lol, u will break skills like this anyway, if anybody is trying to use this, hes risking to get caught by logs.
Anyway there has been plenty of noobs crying about enchant skills and even one GM was so naive and stupid and believe it and deleted one of my members skill completly, because there are mastery books and when u rly want u will enchant your skills too and ETC have rly good opportunity since we have a lot of bogs from castles/heroes all the time aviable unlike all others who cry here, the GM had to give it fast back as it was since it was completly done legit way. Crybabies like creator of this topic and clueless ppl make huge QQfest around enchanted skills, while I know only rly few ppl with RLY rly highly enchanted skills and i know very well what it costs them and how they farm to get it done.
And once again FOR retards: ETC was never using anykind of bugs/exploits, thats our clan credo, I speak for the clan yes, ofc I cant stand behind each individual, but as clan we have it clear and ppl know i wouldnt allow anybody use exploits or bugs thats how it is. So when some IDIOT write ETC would use it for sure when they know it, I have to write NO FUCKING way ETC as clan using bugs/exploits.
Quote from: James_p on January 06, 2010, 01:10:01 PM
OMG Jacky.......R U sure for all your clan mates?I think no,U cannot swear this....and if U dont believe this exploit,U R just blind an U dont wanna see it.....here is manual for U:
1) w8 for our beloved lags
2) take some bogs/masterys and go to your skill enchant NPC
3) if U have more than 1 bog/mastery, keep just 1 in your inv and put others for ex to your wolf
4) press enchant skill which U wanna enchant and immediately start enchanting other skills with the same bog/mastery(maybe it works for the same skill too)
5)your bog/mastery will disappear after few seconds bcs of lags.....
still dont understand this?I dont think so.And for ex,one my friend get 52+52 badges in TW before more than month so this bug/xploit is here for long time....so some rollback is pointless. I am interested how many ppls used it...and now Jacky when U know how to do it,buy muchoooooooooo masterys and hurry to enchant so U will not be late against your clan mates :-*
Nice guide, bro. Looks like u know how to cheat,but thats not a proof that we are using it. Btw ,zomg1 or w/e ur nick is, ask ur friend(the one that was enchanting his lvl 77 skill to +18) again how he is buggind oe skills and post the guide here, id like to make few lvl 77 skills +18(and mb more?).
This post is fake
Quote from: James_p on January 06, 2010, 01:10:01 PM
OMG Jacky.......R U sure for all your clan mates?I think no,U cannot swear this....and if U dont believe this exploit,U R just blind an U dont wanna see it..
It goes other way around u know? Are you sure that ETC were using a bug? u have any proof for this? Shut the fuck up than, coz its simply a trashtalk and fake accusation.... That should be punished aswell. It goes for you iPKu
QuoteAnd if bug did existed, and ETC knew about it - THEY DID EXPLOIT IT. Just saying.
thats low.
any admins show this topic? wtf ? yesterday server will be down again and have lags, good job guys...
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proof for too much quest reward (certification skills)
:D first of all i would check the creators of the topic and the ones, who are so sure about that "bug" cause they apparently dont know how skills are enchanted in gracia final or they just act like retards :) . try to bug somethin else like u claim book are used ... for example cp pots or w/e ... everything youses the item it needs, even with a lag it uses it with a time difference. everyone would run with +30 skills by your conspiracy theory but there are only few ppl with rly high oed skills and only 1 or maybe max 2 ... and guess what ... its hellish expensive to make it so ye, all around made their skills with 1 book. gtfo forum trolls ;D
P.S.: i see only a proof (like words are a proof) that 2 quests gave more items than it should. so report it and dont troll here with your theories
Quote from: bjorn on January 06, 2010, 03:15:29 PM
:D first of all i would check the creators of the topic and the ones, who are so sure about that "bug" cause they apparently dont know how skills are enchanted in gracia final or they just act like retards :) . try to bug somethin else like u claim book are used ... for example cp pots or w/e ... everything youses the item it needs, even with a lag it uses it with a time difference. everyone would run with +30 skills by your conspiracy theory but there are only few ppl with rly high oed skills and only 1 or maybe max 2 ... and guess what ... its hellish expensive to make it so ye, all around made their skills with 1 book. gtfo forum trolls ;D
P.S.: i see only a proof (like words are a proof) that 2 quests gave more items than it should. so report it and dont troll here with your theories
The problem is that enchants are different... if we had normal lags, it would be fine. But the problem is with item lag. You can enchant skill and server will react to it immediately but your mastery book will dissapear in 5-8 seconds. It means that If you will click next time, server will still see that you have enchant book and will allow you to continue enchanting as long as this book will be in your inventory. I'm waiting to get GC - Mastery and item lag to make screens becouse some retards are blind as hell.
QuoteWe didnt exploit single bug and we never will, go cry somewhere else pls.
Ahahahaha. That made my day. And how will you call, healing your baium party from outside/below of Baium room? :>
EDIT: If you will break your skill with mastery book, Game will still allow you to continue if book didn't dissapeared yet. So you can have idk, let's say Mass disarm +9, click 5 times and even if you will have 3 times, you will stil have +2 more.
I rly dont understand why u still think that there is no bug, all these ppl are just haters ? and come here to flame ur clan?
This is topic about major bug and was made to inform administration, not for flame ETC which even w/o it are untouchable atm. Why ppl here strongly repeat that there is no any bug? Maybe just leave this to resolve by administration and stfu?
Also no1 said that whole etc use that bug, but for sure one of that 100+ member noticed that already. You ask why not every1 have all skills +100 ? imo cuz bogs/master bogs are expensive and also till now not much ppl known about that.
I just hope that admins will at last do something and check logs ~.~
Feel free to check anyone from ETC. My disarm for example was checked by gm cause Meow reported me. We didnt use anythin besides normal enchanting with gc mastery books. And its insane expensive i must say :). Spent like 40kkk already for it.
Quote from: dagothur on January 06, 2010, 03:52:33 PM
Feel free to check anyone from ETC. My disarm for example was checked by gm cause Meow reported me. We didnt use anythin besides normal enchanting with gc mastery books. And its insane expensive i must say :). Spent like 40kkk already for it.
ah, now u will keep ur hero status not only for 100% but for 199% ! ;d
Quote from: Arris on January 06, 2010, 03:39:16 PM
Ahahahaha. That made my day. And how will you call, healing your baium party from outside/below of Baium room? :>
This issue has been discussed several times on several server, even on retail and it has been confirmed as not a bug but feature by nc-soft, same we better consulted all such things with GM before doing it, because sometimes some ppl see things from other POV, but not in this case on this server. So call your mommy and cry to her pls...
Too bad u spent your energy on crying about ETC members skill enchants instead of trying to find out, IF even such bug exist and how does it work to report it properly, only one person i think it was Toxic gave here at least something like a proof that sub-skill mastery book was used twice in matter of lag, again this should be really easy to find out and punish the ppl same as I wanted while some users were exploiting vote/sms system to DC ppl on olympiad. BTW high lvl skill enchants were made in my clan before this lags occured anyway...
And to the theory of using some bog or mastery book to start enchanting more skills well yea if it really work like this this would help mostly to poor ppl who doesnt have bogs to make a lot of basic skill enchants on low +++, but still skills imo do break this way so its not rly helpfull making some insane enchants anyway.
You should ask Jacky how many BOGs we get from olympiad and all castles. It's way more than 1k per month. Pure mathematics.
Quote from: Jacky on January 06, 2010, 04:17:43 PM
Quote from: Arris on January 06, 2010, 03:39:16 PM
Ahahahaha. That made my day. And how will you call, healing your baium party from outside/below of Baium room? :>
This issue has been discussed several times on several server, even on retail and it has been confirmed as not a bug but feature by nc-soft, same we better consulted all such things with GM before doing it, because sometimes some ppl see things from other POV, but not in this case on this server. So call your mommy and cry to her pls...
Too bad u spent your energy on crying about ETC members skill enchants instead of trying to find out, IF even such bug exist and how does it work to report it properly, only one person i think it was Toxic gave here at least something like a proof that sub-skill mastery book was used twice in matter of lag, again this should be really easy to find out and punish the ppl same as I wanted while some users were exploiting vote/sms system to DC ppl on olympiad. BTW high lvl skill enchants were made in my clan before this lags occured anyway...
And to the theory of using some bog or mastery book to start enchanting more skills well yea if it really work like this this would help mostly to poor ppl who doesnt have bogs to make a lot of basic skill enchants on low +++, but still skills imo do break this way so its not rly helpfull making some insane enchants anyway.
Jacky, but with books mastery, skills do not break. You can fail enchanting but on lag just click few times more and you will still enchant it higher. I can understand why you deny that ETC used any exploits (even though i'm almost sure that you did used some exploits, even if that was just few times) but i don't get it why you fanatically deny bug existence. Just go and try it by yourself (even though checking such important report should be GMs duty).
If u were reading my post u would see I am not fanaticly denying there might be some bug or some kind of exploit connected with lag, but its too much reading for u it seems....u just have to ignore ppl who have absolutely no clue what is possible and what not and tell them to STFU, what u need here is to find out what exactly is possible to do with such thing, report it corectly and ask admin to do smt against it. And for u again ETC as clan never used anykind of exploit or bug, tho i know a lot of them, i never allowed ppl to use any of them...we were trying always to report all bugs when possible and help to make the server better not using some kind of bugs for us like did that clan from LT, cant remember the name, but one of the ppl who are screaming on forums about others exploiting was member of that clan...so its just hilarious what are some ppl capable to do/say here.
If u rly want to report / fix some bug u have to filter retards and kids who doesnt have any clue.
Than u can hope it wont be rly rly complicated to recover/find such bug users in database/logs and admin will do smt with it. But if he didnt wanted even to take hero status from russians who were DCing ppl and gained hero status like this..dunno if he will want to spent time be recovering this kind of exploits....
Quote from: Arris on January 06, 2010, 05:02:56 PM
Jacky, but with books mastery, skills do not break. You can fail enchanting but on lag just click few times more and you will still enchant it higher.
Arris why u post this? ETC know about it for a loooong time..
Damn u ppl, bring back items lags and ill fraps how is this bug working. Even if i will get ban for that.
Btw its so sad that u cant discuss without insulting other ppl... Mature ppl use arguments imo, so what? U are a banch of kids or what? WTB replays without insulting words.
Quote from: Prince on January 06, 2010, 05:26:26 PM
Quote from: Arris on January 06, 2010, 05:02:56 PM
Jacky, but with books mastery, skills do not break. You can fail enchanting but on lag just click few times more and you will still enchant it higher.
Arris why u post this? ETC know about it for a loooong time..
This is example off idiots just spamming/hating, which u must ignore if u want to have serious topic about some bug.
How could only ETC know about such bug when there wasnt any conditions to even try it...lol but suuuuuuuuuure ETC knows, ETC uses...cry more.
Again the same, there is a supposed bug? lets blame ETC!
Does it matter who used bug? Important thing is that this bug exists and can be exploited by anyone.
Stop spamming about ETC with "they used it or not". Just lets think what to do and how to "convice"
admins to do something about this. I'm suprised that we still didn't get any information about this
case or if GMs even care about it. Below is list of bugs that already were posted on this forum
(propably i will just get banned again) and was deleted by server administration (ofc we still don't know why).
(https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg340.imageshack.us%2Fimg340%2F50%2Fbug0.png&hash=fc3fc4edc1736e24ee13fac5f3583e8f97b8409d) (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/bug0.png/) (https://smf2.rpg-club.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg340.imageshack.us%2Fimg340%2Fbug0.png%2F1%2Fw883.png&hash=b306c9e78e9e1b65e927d7630409ec36816c90b4) (http://g.imageshack.us/img340/bug0.png/1/)
I think server staff doesnt want players to see it so they can exploit it even more and trying to find out what to do now, admin is never writing here on forums, so u can only hope he works on it and repair it....
Quote from: Jacky on January 06, 2010, 07:30:39 PM
I think server staff doesnt want players to see it so they can exploit it even more and trying to find out what to do now, admin is never writing here on forums, so u can only hope he works on it and repair it....
But there are many GMs and i think they communicate with each other, just official post by any GM that Administration is working on this problem would be good move...
Quote from: Arris on January 06, 2010, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: Jacky on January 06, 2010, 07:30:39 PM
I think server staff doesnt want players to see it so they can exploit it even more and trying to find out what to do now, admin is never writing here on forums, so u can only hope he works on it and repair it....
But there are many GMs and i think they communicate with each other, just official post by any GM that Administration is working on this problem would be good move...
Ofc it would, but have seen it in other cases here, since beggining of server we reported many bugs...a lot of was reapired without single word on forums..get use to it...
Quote from: Nas on January 06, 2010, 02:18:23 PM
Quote from: James_p on January 06, 2010, 01:10:01 PM
OMG Jacky.......R U sure for all your clan mates?I think no,U cannot swear this....and if U dont believe this exploit,U R just blind an U dont wanna see it.....here is manual for U:
1) w8 for our beloved lags
2) take some bogs/masterys and go to your skill enchant NPC
3) if U have more than 1 bog/mastery, keep just 1 in your inv and put others for ex to your wolf
4) press enchant skill which U wanna enchant and immediately start enchanting other skills with the same bog/mastery(maybe it works for the same skill too)
5)your bog/mastery will disappear after few seconds bcs of lags.....
still dont understand this?I dont think so.And for ex,one my friend get 52+52 badges in TW before more than month so this bug/xploit is here for long time....so some rollback is pointless. I am interested how many ppls used it...and now Jacky when U know how to do it,buy muchoooooooooo masterys and hurry to enchant so U will not be late against your clan mates :-*
Nice guide, bro. Looks like u know how to cheat,but thats not a proof that we are using it. Btw ,zomg1 or w/e ur nick is, ask ur friend(the one that was enchanting his lvl 77 skill to +18) again how he is buggind oe skills and post the guide here, id like to make few lvl 77 skills +18(and mb more?).
I rly expected that some nab will say this xD all GMs of the world check me IG,I have nothing to hide.....and Jacky I rly laughed when I was reading your answer...."I will not allow to use xploit" xD do U think they will ask U if they can?and that with more sub skills....I heared from offic that U can have more...just delete your sub and take another
Quote from: James_p on January 06, 2010, 09:36:22 PM
.I heared from offic that U can have more...just delete your sub and take another
Go and try, then speak again, mr. nonab.
Quote from: James_p on January 06, 2010, 09:36:22 PM
I rly expected that some nab will say this xD all GMs of the world check me IG,I have nothing to hide.....and Jacky I rly laughed when I was reading your answer...."I will not allow to use xploit" xD do U think they will ask U if they can?and that with more sub skills....I heared from offic that U can have more...just delete your sub and take another
You're stupid. He can't check his Clanmember 24/7 for exploiting or botting, but most of our people play fair and legit. If they risk to exploit then it's their own business and risk to get banned. It's just funny to see all the tears here about ETC, but who can say that other Allys didnt abuse it aswell or just some Member of NF, Absolute, Meow or other Clans?
"I heared ...", so go ahead make some Subclasses, delete Subs and get mass Certification Books. Oh wait it doesnt work ...
Quote from: James_p on January 06, 2010, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: Nas on January 06, 2010, 02:18:23 PM
Quote from: James_p on January 06, 2010, 01:10:01 PM
OMG Jacky.......R U sure for all your clan mates?I think no,U cannot swear this....and if U dont believe this exploit,U R just blind an U dont wanna see it.....here is manual for U:
1) w8 for our beloved lags
2) take some bogs/masterys and go to your skill enchant NPC
3) if U have more than 1 bog/mastery, keep just 1 in your inv and put others for ex to your wolf
4) press enchant skill which U wanna enchant and immediately start enchanting other skills with the same bog/mastery(maybe it works for the same skill too)
5)your bog/mastery will disappear after few seconds bcs of lags.....
still dont understand this?I dont think so.And for ex,one my friend get 52+52 badges in TW before more than month so this bug/xploit is here for long time....so some rollback is pointless. I am interested how many ppls used it...and now Jacky when U know how to do it,buy muchoooooooooo masterys and hurry to enchant so U will not be late against your clan mates :-*
Nice guide, bro. Looks like u know how to cheat,but thats not a proof that we are using it. Btw ,zomg1 or w/e ur nick is, ask ur friend(the one that was enchanting his lvl 77 skill to +18) again how he is buggind oe skills and post the guide here, id like to make few lvl 77 skills +18(and mb more?).
I rly expected that some nab will say this xD all GMs of the world check me IG,I have nothing to hide.....and Jacky I rly laughed when I was reading your answer...."I will not allow to use xploit" xD do U think they will ask U if they can?and that with more sub skills....I heared from offic that U can have more...just delete your sub and take another
usually ppl get butthurt when they see some1 a lot more poferful than them thats why they say crap about top clans in first place, it may be true but doesnt have to.. u shouldnt care about them ^^
Quote from: darkflame on January 07, 2010, 10:56:20 AM
Quote from: James_p on January 06, 2010, 09:36:22 PM
I rly expected that some nab will say this xD all GMs of the world check me IG,I have nothing to hide.....and Jacky I rly laughed when I was reading your answer...."I will not allow to use xploit" xD do U think they will ask U if they can?and that with more sub skills....I heared from offic that U can have more...just delete your sub and take another
You're stupid. He can't check his Clanmember 24/7 for exploiting or botting, but most of our people play fair and legit. If they risk to exploit then it's their own business and risk to get banned. It's just funny to see all the tears here about ETC, but who can say that other Allys didnt abuse it aswell or just some Member of NF, Absolute, Meow or other Clans?
"I heared ...", so go ahead make some Subclasses, delete Subs and get mass Certification Books. Oh wait it doesnt work ...
mg nab thats what I am whole time speaking about....that Jacky cannot know what each member do.....so pls dont tell that shits like "nobody from my clan is xploiting"
Quote from: James_p on January 07, 2010, 03:11:32 PM
mg nab thats what I am whole time speaking about....that Jacky cannot know what each member do.....so pls dont tell that shits like "nobody from my clan is xploiting"
I DO know about best enchants in my clan, and those were made completly legit way how its possible on Gracia Final, even GM were checking it, those enchants were made anyway before there were some item lags, so thats the point, i was all time protecting my ppl here those who have highly enchanted skills which about others are crying and i had to say those were made by normal legit way, checked and confirmed by gm, stop already this cry about ETC, ETC should be crying here now btw, since this bug possibly allow some nabs to reach some nice skill enchats if it really worked like this.
iu dont believe that GM checked all of em...and U cannot know how they enchanted it...
Quote from: James_p on January 07, 2010, 11:44:07 PM
iu dont believe that GM checked all of em...and U cannot know how they enchanted it...
Normally since there wasnt any item lags before. Name somebody, ask GM to check em w/e u want, just stop crying about ETC, coz we didnt use any exploits.
I dont name anybody who use it. if U didnt recognized iit,i am just telling U to stop writing that shits that nobody from ETC uses any xploit.U JUST CANNOT KNOW AND THEY WILL NOT TELL U! and item lags are here for long time so dont tell that nobody was enchanting skills during that lags
Quote from: James_p on January 08, 2010, 03:18:36 PM
I dont name anybody who use it. if U didnt recognized iit,i am just telling U to stop writing that shits that nobody from ETC uses any xploit.U JUST CANNOT KNOW AND THEY WILL NOT TELL U! and item lags are here for long time so dont tell that nobody was enchanting skills during that lags
Unless u will name somebody, u are blaming whole clan and I am defending it, not gonna stop just cuz u cry more and more, face it scrub.