1PC-1dual box
Adena/Exp/SP: amount x5
SealStones: amount x3
Adena, SealStones: chance 100%
Drop: chance x5
Spoil: chance x1-2, amount x3 for mats, chance x5 amount x1 for keys rcp
Quest: x5 (not for all quests)
GC q x5
IT/FOG q 2-3
ketra/varka q 2-3
Quest awards: exp x5, adena x5
and try announce live start 2-3 weeks before
rates in development
Quote from: smalltitsforwin on January 02, 2010, 06:38:51 PM
1PC-1dual box
Adena/Exp/SP: amount x5
SealStones: amount x3
Adena, SealStones: chance 100%
Drop: chance x5
Spoil: chance x1-2, amount x3 for mats, chance x5 amount x1 for keys rcp
Quest: x5 (not for all quests)
GC q x5
IT/FOG q 2-3
ketra/varka q 2-3
Quest awards: exp x5, adena x5
I totally agree with these rates (excluding DE 100k quest that should be like 3x to avoid mass DE chars to farm adena)
Can we make sure we don't have grouping fuck-ups where high drop items make it nearly impossible to drop low-drop items because of item grouping.
For example Maj Boots Rec from Buffalo Slave nearly impossible on 30x because of high-chance for Animal Bone/Skin/CBP.
or the windstones/earthstones? since they should have like 10% chance? and yet its they like never drop.
Plz GM's make good rules and rates.
1 dualbox per 1 PC will make this server very popular cuz many ppl are looking for good, new servers, also plz take care about good quest rates.
I'm counting on You! ;)
Server Start??
i would do it:
Exp/SP: amount x5
Adena/SealStones: amount x3
Adena, SealStones: chance 100%
Drop: amount 5x (except for recipes, full drops, enchants, forgotten scrolls, attribute stones etc ...they should be chance 5x)
Spoil: chance x1, amount x5 for mats, keys chance x5 amount x1 for rcps, enchants etc
Quest: onetime Q reward 1x (except for exp/sp reward) (maybe QI drop amount 5x...shrine 5x etc)
repeatable Q reward 3-5x (except for Q to enter baium/anthy/valakas etc)
olympiad period twice a month :)
manor twice a day
Quote from: sluki on January 03, 2010, 01:23:15 AM
olympiad period twice a month :)
that sound interesting
official start ?
beta test now
Quote from: Aries on January 02, 2010, 09:40:31 PM
Plz GM's make good rules and rates.
1 dualbox per 1 PC will make this server very popular cuz many ppl are looking for good, new servers, also plz take care about good quest rates.
I'm counting on You! ;)
yeahhhh...
no
Same rules as the 30x
3 clients per person you euro trash queers can go ruin L2 somewhere else like stanki's server or aderyns.
don't even come here fucking crying about 1 person 1 client bullcrap It ruins every fucking server within 3 months.
Quote from: sluki on January 03, 2010, 01:23:15 AM
i would do it:
Exp/SP: amount x5
Adena/SealStones: amount x3
Adena, SealStones: chance 100%
Drop: amount 5x (except for recipes, full drops, enchants, forgotten scrolls, attribute stones etc ...they should be chance 5x)
Spoil: chance x1, amount x5 for mats, keys chance x5 amount x1 for rcps, enchants etc
Quest: onetime Q reward 1x (except for exp/sp reward) (maybe QI drop amount 5x...shrine 5x etc)
repeatable Q reward 3-5x (except for Q to enter baium/anthy/valakas etc)
olympiad period twice a month :)
manor twice a day
Forgotten scrolls can be 1x, just reward from npc can be 5x...so for one forgotten u get 5 blank scrolls
Spoil same like drop - material 1x chance,5x amount
others 5x chance, 1x amount
Olympiad and manor normally as it should be.y
Adena and seal stones also 5x, just q. on ketra/varka/it/fog/mos/shrine 3x
2x varka/ketra/
2x IT/FOG
3x Giants cave
5x blank scrolls and AA so its equal to a 5x retail server.
5x adena
5x sp
5x exp ofc
holy grail quest = 3x
with 3x varka/ketra is 2 fast for a 5x server
same goes for IT/FOG
Quote from: Evolution on January 03, 2010, 06:03:44 AM
Quote from: Aries on January 02, 2010, 09:40:31 PM
Plz GM's make good rules and rates.
1 dualbox per 1 PC will make this server very popular cuz many ppl are looking for good, new servers, also plz take care about good quest rates.
I'm counting on You! ;)
yeahhhh...
no
Same rules as the 30x
3 clients per person you euro trash queers can go ruin L2 somewhere else like stanki's server or aderyns.
don't even come here fucking crying about 1 person 1 client bullcrap It ruins every fucking server within 3 months.
You didnt read it right. He told one dualbox per pc, it means that one player can have main char + one box. Fair enough.
just copy rates from supremel2 - Aerith
it was well balanced
Quote from: ve3k on January 03, 2010, 10:07:47 AM
just copy rates from supremel2 - Aerith
it was well balanced
I can fucking agree with ya
p.s: yo agian ve3k
+1 aerith azure 5x rates = best
I would like to see varka/ketra/IT/FOG quest be 2x and giants cave
2x or 3x tho and holy grail same.
Aswell as a few others.
When will official start ?
Quote from: Evolution on January 03, 2010, 10:48:56 AM
+1 aerith azure 5x rates = best
I would like to see varka/ketra/IT/FOG quest be 2x and giants cave
2x or 3x tho and holy grail same.
Aswell as a few others.
Why u need increase gc quest, when spoil mjla or tpa is question of 5 min.
Quote from: isuldor on January 03, 2010, 07:16:01 AM
Quote from: sluki on January 03, 2010, 01:23:15 AM
i would do it:
Exp/SP: amount x5
Adena/SealStones: amount x3
Adena, SealStones: chance 100%
Drop: amount 5x (except for recipes, full drops, enchants, forgotten scrolls, attribute stones etc ...they should be chance 5x)
Spoil: chance x1, amount x5 for mats, keys chance x5 amount x1 for rcps, enchants etc
Quest: onetime Q reward 1x (except for exp/sp reward) (maybe QI drop amount 5x...shrine 5x etc)
repeatable Q reward 3-5x (except for Q to enter baium/anthy/valakas etc)
olympiad period twice a month :)
manor twice a day
Forgotten scrolls can be 1x, just reward from npc can be 5x...so for one forgotten u get 5 blank scrolls
Spoil same like drop - material 1x chance,5x amount
others 5x chance, 1x amount
Olympiad and manor normally as it should be.y
Adena and seal stones also 5x, just q. on ketra/varka/it/fog/mos/shrine 3x
i meant forgotten scrolls for skills http://lineage.pmfun.com/item/10582/forgotten-scroll--improve-critical-attack.html etc
adena 5x and 100% chance is over 5x rates, because it is 5x amount and 1.5x chance
In my opinion the best rates would be
xp 7x
sp 7x
or if 5x final then it's final
drop rate 5x amount 5x for mac 5x for adenas and seal stones and adenas/ss drop chance 5x
spoil rate 5x amount for mac 5x for recepies enchants 3x
q awards xp/sp/adena - 5x
3rd prof quest that's varka/ketra/hs srine 5x becouse we do it in every server so it becomes very boring :)
it/fog/gc/toi/blazing swamp q item rate 100% amount 5x
Becouse even with 5x q rates it takes time to do them when there's always will be much pvp for the spots and it's not c6 so that everyone would grind for s grade so make hb/gracia q 1x so all grinding would be in new areas not old ones :)
Lets make hb crouded not varka/ketra :)
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on January 04, 2010, 03:40:58 AM
it/fog/gc/toi/blazing swamp q item rate 100% amount 5x
there are different mob so i wouldn't change rate only amount
Quote from: sluki on January 04, 2010, 06:44:53 AM
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on January 04, 2010, 03:40:58 AM
it/fog/gc/toi/blazing swamp q item rate 100% amount 5x
there are different mob so i wouldn't change rate only amount
So stronger mobs can be 10x q items
in 30x it was almost impossible to collect the first recepie because the q items drop was very very low .
so Q rate higher than exp rate?
Quest amount should be x2,x3 minimum, such as Varka/Ketra/IT/FOG/HS/Shrine.
Imo rates should be between 7x and 15x, these will be the best suited rates.
And it should definitely decided by players via a poll for example, but that just my pov!
Quote from: Aries on January 02, 2010, 09:40:31 PM
Plz GM's make good rules and rates.
1 dualbox per 1 PC will make this server very popular cuz many ppl are looking for good, new servers, also plz take care about good quest rates.
I'm counting on You! ;)
This rule is bullshit because nobody contorle it.... only if some gm look al nights for bots and dualboxing this rule gonna work if not ....FAKE rule
Quote from: 1up on January 05, 2010, 12:05:12 AM
Imo rates should be between 7x and 15x, these will be the best suited rates.
And it should definitely decided by players via a poll for example, but that just my pov!
Poll = FAKE results
because in a poll all kind of players can vote all newbie that dont have game experience can vote ...
and the poll can be manipulated easy you only have to change your ip and vote again
All seing servers chats and npcs in russ or only me?
Quote from: xtM on January 05, 2010, 12:18:40 AM
Quote from: 1up on January 05, 2010, 12:05:12 AM
Imo rates should be between 7x and 15x, these will be the best suited rates.
And it should definitely decided by players via a poll for example, but that just my pov!
Poll = FAKE results
because in a poll all kind of players can vote all newbie that dont have game experience can vote ...
and the poll can be manipulated easy you only have to change your ip and vote again
I guess people would wote for 7x-10x server but admin already told somewhere that's 5x is final :)
Quote from: vaiper899 on January 05, 2010, 03:43:29 AM
All seing servers chats and npcs in russ or only me?
Nah, it's only you - we all seing in russian.
However it's only beta, at the start, they'll changed in english.
IMHO the 5x rates are good :) It will proabably bring some ppl/clans that are taking L2 more seriously (no offense) to this server (cause the 30x is more like for fun).
The drop rates would be nice like this:
Chance:5x
Amount:1-2x (let's keep spoils in the game :))
Adena/Seal Stones 3x
Fulldrop/recipes:5x chance
And Spoil(as Sluki said):
chance x1, amount x5 for mats, keys
chance x5 amount x1 for rcps, enchants etc
Quest rates:
5x amount XP/SP/adena(except for DE 15 quest)
Varka/Ketra: 100% chance
Suppliers of reagents: 100% chance, 3x amount
IT/FoG...:2x amount
And I would also prefer the no dual-boxing or 1dual-box per PC cause honestly multi-boxing is ruining the game, especially on low-rate servers because players are not forced to make parties. So everyone solo with his army of pets.
I know it's really hard to watch for multi-boxes for GM cause it really time consuming but in the end it will proabably help the game/economy/clans(and in-clan relationships) to have no dual-box or just 1.
But I trust Gm's/Admins will make it a good server ofc :)
Quote from: vajqo on January 06, 2010, 03:25:05 PM
IMHO the 5x rates are good :) It will proabably bring some ppl/clans that are taking L2 more seriously (no offense) to this server (cause the 30x is more like for fun).
The drop rates would be nice like this:
Chance:5x
Amount:1-2x (let's keep spoils in the game :))
Adena/Seal Stones 3x
Fulldrop/recipes:5x chance
And Spoil(as Sluki said):
chance x1, amount x5 for mats, keys
chance x5 amount x1 for rcps, enchants etc
Quest rates:
5x amount XP/SP/adena(except for DE 15 quest)
Varka/Ketra: 100% chance
Suppliers of reagents: 100% chance, 3x amount
IT/FoG...:2x amount
And I would also prefer the no dual-boxing or 1dual-box per PC cause honestly multi-boxing is ruining the game, especially on low-rate servers because players are not forced to make parties. So everyone solo with his army of pets.
I know it's really hard to watch for multi-boxes for GM cause it really time consuming but in the end it will proabably help the game/economy/clans(and in-clan relationships) to have no dual-box or just 1.
But I trust Gm's/Admins will make it a good server ofc :)
5x adena or sealstones...wtf is idea decrease adena rate....lets make 3x exp and give adena 1x....or 3x adena and 1x exp.....
Allow boxing, bullsh1t w/o box...if u want parties...find some friends and make pt.
Sry for the adena thing. My bad (still sleeping thougth) didn't want to write that one :) But still want that daul box thing :)
box should be allowed since ppl prefer dd classes more than supports. If you aren't playing with friends gl lf bd/sws/buffers.
Quote from: 1s1knhjs))) on January 06, 2010, 05:04:05 PM
box should be allowed since ppl prefer dd classes more than supports. If you aren't playing with friends gl lf bd/sws/buffers.
Rofl..... people prefer what they like. Dunno on what servers did u play, but most of my friends in l2 prefer supports.
Quote from: Шабака on January 02, 2010, 06:39:40 PM
rates in development
if you guys make it 10-15x i know about 10 competing clans that would join it. 15x being the perfect exp amount for a private server, you would have one of the most over populated servers in the l2 private community. im talking over 5k
7x ::)
10-15
7 would be the same as 5 lol
so 7 and 10 would be the same to ??
7-10 would be perfect coz many clans from azure and dex are looking for a 9-10 server rates.
ye 10 is good since exp dont stop on 78 lvl and varka farm
Quote from: vaiper899 on January 06, 2010, 09:22:26 PM
7-10 would be perfect coz many clans from azure and dex are looking for a 9-10 server rates.
There isn`t "many clan" l2 is fucking dead
Admin pease do not forget about posting in rules that BOTING is forbidden !!!
As some of us know on x30 some ppl didnt knew that they cant bot.
An ETA or Rates from admins would be nice so ppl can advertise server :P
Pel8 I herd that ETC wont come for x 5 so why the spam in here? Is there any problem?
thay will move with other nicks and pve in peace ::)
if server is 10-15x people will move from azure/dex and play here. who cares about the staff when the files are sooooooo dope!
well yes 10 x > 5x :) but then they should close the current 10x because it has low population
x10 rate is just perfect ;D
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on January 08, 2010, 01:28:18 AM
well yes 10 x > 5x :) but then they should close the current 10x because it has low population
Well u made the point already , its has low population meaning close or whipe the server and make it international ;)
Can i get an amen for this?
Quote from: 1up on January 08, 2010, 02:25:54 AM
Quote from: ..MinDiuSe.. on January 08, 2010, 01:28:18 AM
well yes 10 x > 5x :) but then they should close the current 10x because it has low population
Well u made the point already , its has low population meaning close or whipe the server and make it international ;)
Can i get an amen for this?
if there would be a vote for this i guess 10x would win BUT you forgot we're dealing with communism :) like Stalin once said - if there is no person - there is no problem :) that's why we see a lot of forum bans from nowhere :D
10x or no serwer!!! Come on u communist pricks, i know u can do it! Vote Shabaka for prezident (if u make it 10x)
Quote from: zook on January 07, 2010, 07:40:25 PM
if server is 10-15x people will move from azure/dex and play here. who cares about the staff when the files are sooooooo dope!
if server is 3-5x people will move from many more servers than lolazure or loldex
Quote from: BadDude on January 08, 2010, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: zook on January 07, 2010, 07:40:25 PM
if server is 10-15x people will move from azure/dex and play here. who cares about the staff when the files are sooooooo dope!
if server is 3-5x people will move from many more servers than lolazure or loldex
they will come from l2brazil
Quote from: Pel8 on January 08, 2010, 06:45:27 PM
Quote from: BadDude on January 08, 2010, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: zook on January 07, 2010, 07:40:25 PM
if server is 10-15x people will move from azure/dex and play here. who cares about the staff when the files are sooooooo dope!
if server is 3-5x people will move from many more servers than lolazure or loldex
they will come from l2brazil
l2brazil r already on 30x :D
hahahaha