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Title: Suggestion to bring more European players
Post by: Cyberpunker on October 17, 2015, 03:19:37 PM
First, sorry for my English. I'll try to write the best way that I can.

I took nine years playing Lineage 2. I played in official and private servers. Lately, I've seen that are servers that are succeeding, and that servers are failing. By this I will give my suggestion. This is what you need this server, at least that's what I think.

After so many years, the old players are few. Everything has evolved and the number of players that are now not content just to have a retail server.

The overall game and now all existing games has become more competitive than ever. We humans love to prove who is the best.

So you should focus more on making external events with small rewards in currencies server (eg RUR).
In addition you ought to be getting in the top in the list of best websites in search engines like "www.gtop100.com" or "www.l2top.co".
And something that  can help you to attract many players is to use TwitchTV.

Players do nothing without a profit. So that the benefit should be some kind of reward (eg RUR) with which they can get some benefits in the game. (Life Stone, hair accessory, vitality, rune for exp / sp among other things...)

My suggestions are:

- Add a way to vote for the server simply by clicking (as already exists in some private servers)
- Rewards for people to vote for the server
- Rewards for three best video pvp week.
- Rewards for best screenshot week
- Some GM make use of Twitch TV showing pvp server and highlights of the Castle Siege
The videos showcase the best that you can have a server. You must do much stress upon this.

If you have any other suggestions (not Unbalance or break the scheme that makes this unique server) please I would love to hear it. I think this post is necessary.

I have another suggestion, you Take I hope you well and without creating any controversy. I just try to be as honest and clear as possible.

When you enter the server find that is open to everyone without restriction of any country, but is almost entirely Russian-speaking. This is not a problem until you find Russian characters in stores in major public chats (global, shout, trade, hero).
This is one of the main reasons (I would say the biggest cause) that many players choose another server. Maybe restringuir use these characters in shops and public chats would be a good option (for Whisp, clan and party is not a problem).
I can understand that the server is Russian and all the work that doing is great, but if we talk about attracting people and that the server is full for a long time, this is necessary, now more than ever. The English is the international language and that it should be used. Again, please do not want to start an argument, I just want to think clearly and logically.
Lineage 2 Classic and works in Russia and in a short period of time will also be available in the rest of Europe. This is something to consider as many players leave the server.
Again, sorry for my english. A greeting and thank you very much.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: smn on October 17, 2015, 06:45:33 PM
There used to be rewards for voting in the older rpg servers, not quite sure why they removed it.

Rewards for best pvp video are biased, because the top parties would win most of those contests. Do you really wanna empower top players even more? I think the events that the server has are plenty, not to mention the NTC, that some people abuse.

About the highlight suggestion, I kinda like the idea. I`ll be sure to forward this to the rest of the staff, maybe some one can make the time to oversee something like this.

Thank you for the time you took writing this post.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Poissie on October 17, 2015, 07:12:42 PM
You can send your suggestions directly to admins here http://support.rpg-club.net/index.php?a=add
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on October 17, 2015, 07:15:08 PM
Hello, thank you for your answer. Forgive me for not being with you. Last year I played in a private server will not say the name. There I had very basic equipment, Vesper and only 50% attribute. I made a video about 8 minutes.On that server, many people were very well equipped with full equipment +16 and full epics with very large clans players.
I was just an ant in a castle of gold. For my video I got the best reward had been given at that time. The video was fluid and was well edited and the "essence" of the pvp Lineage 2. They saw that and rewarded even though I was not a top player saw.

It is important to promote this kind of thing is what people appreciate and is the largest showcase for players to show "become better" and keep fighting.

Thank to you shizzmynizz :)

Thank you Poissie, I'll send it. I hope you will support me in this.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Pai on October 18, 2015, 08:34:54 PM
I agree with the need for better dissemination of the server.

I know very non-Russian players who end up in preference to other servers because here is predominantly Russian server, and miss seeing the RPG being advertised in several of best websites in search engines like:
www.l2top.co
www.gtop100.com
top.l2jbrasil.com (http://top.l2jbrasil.com) (Would I like to see my friends playing here ;D)
www.l2.hopzone.net
www.l2topzone.com
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on October 19, 2015, 11:36:38 AM
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Yes, you can give some suggestions to see if we all agree.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on October 19, 2015, 11:39:53 AM
Quote from: Plancton on October 18, 2015, 08:34:54 PM
I agree with the need for better dissemination of the server.

I know very non-Russian players who end up in preference to other servers because here is predominantly Russian server, and miss seeing the RPG being advertised in several of best websites in search engines like:
www.l2top.co
www.gtop100.com
top.l2jbrasil.com (http://top.l2jbrasil.com) (Would I like to see my friends playing here ;D)
www.l2.hopzone.net
www.l2topzone.com

No doubt about that. The problem is that players will not vote if it is not in exchange for any reward or at least as easy to vote for the server with make a single click.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Pai on October 19, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: Leuchten on October 19, 2015, 11:39:53 AM
Quote from: Plancton on October 18, 2015, 08:34:54 PM
I agree with the need for better dissemination of the server.

I know very non-Russian players who end up in preference to other servers because here is predominantly Russian server, and miss seeing the RPG being advertised in several of best websites in search engines like:
www.l2top.co
www.gtop100.com
top.l2jbrasil.com (http://top.l2jbrasil.com) (Would I like to see my friends playing here ;D)
www.l2.hopzone.net
www.l2topzone.com

No doubt about that. The problem is that players will not vote if it is not in exchange for any reward or at least as easy to vote for the server with make a single click.

This can be a problem, but I believe that the greatest reward would be to see the fullest server and truly international.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: OocaverexoO on October 21, 2015, 05:33:54 PM
That wont be necessary, they had over 20k+ votes on pool to choose the rates and etc, i'm sure we will have a nice and fully rpg-club new server, as always.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on October 21, 2015, 07:19:16 PM
Quote from: OocaverexoO on October 21, 2015, 05:33:54 PM
That wont be necessary, they had over 20k+ votes on pool to choose the rates and etc, i'm sure we will have a nice and fully rpg-club new server, as always.

I have no doubt. but after the server runs totally dead, because players get tired and do not come new players. That is what we must avoid.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: OocaverexoO on October 22, 2015, 11:46:22 PM
Quote from: Leuchten on October 21, 2015, 07:19:16 PM
Quote from: OocaverexoO on October 21, 2015, 05:33:54 PM
That wont be necessary, they had over 20k+ votes on pool to choose the rates and etc, i'm sure we will have a nice and fully rpg-club new server, as always.

I have no doubt. but after the server runs totally dead, because players get tired and do not come new players. That is what we must avoid.

Totally aggred!
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Alice on October 27, 2015, 11:26:24 AM
1) We surely want to attract more non-Russian players.
Currently we are focusing on placing advertisment on non-Russian l2-related websites and server tops.
Already added to:
http://forum.pmfun.com/index.php
http://topg.org/
http://www.l2top.co/

In process (awaiting ads positions to become free or answers from administration):
http://lineage2.com.pl/
www.l2.hopzone.net
www.l2topzone.com
http://www.gamesites200.com/lineage2/
http://topofgames.com/Lineage2/
http://l2network.eu/
http://www.topgamesites.net/lineage2
top.l2jbrasil.com
www.gtop100.com

If you can suggest any other sites - you are welcome!

2) Voting for the server - in which servers top exactly?
Where will this rank go?
Do you have any particular example?
The problem of adding the server in the tops is that they want their button on our site in return, while we don't want all these buttons :)
So we try to negotiate other terms, some don't answer or reject.

3) We are always looking for streamers for our TwitchTV channel.
We are ready to support, promote and reward.
Not many volunteers so far, sadly.

4) We'd like to start a "word of mouth campaign" and reward people for promoting the new server on non-Russian sites, forums and in social networks.
Will it work, how do you think?
Any suggestions?

5) Limiting Russian language in chats is not an option. Russians are still the majority of players. And most Russians don't speak English. Like at all :)

(If you answer this message, please, number the points. You can also send your suggestions in my PM).

Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on October 28, 2015, 02:59:14 AM
Quote from: Alice on October 27, 2015, 11:26:24 AM


5) Limiting Russian language in chats is not an option. Russians are still the majority of players. And most Russians don't speak English. Like at all :)


at least limit original names of stores and items, and nick names without Russian characters

When someone who does not know Russian, wants to find an item in Giran (for example), put the name of the item (vesper, elegy, shoes ...) but Russian characters is impossible.
Equally difficult to invitations Party, it is impossible to invite someone with Russian characters.

Okay that is not going to ban talking on public channels, but at least if you should use English in shops and trade ads.

To place an ad in this way:
WTS Vesper Shoes 800kk pm
You do not need a high level of English :P haha (and I repeat, that putting the Item, this appears with your name in English and not in Russian)
I think these small changes would improve the server.

I think what I'm asking is really necessary.


Regarding Twitch TV and videos Youtube, we will hope that this time has more participants. I will be one of them. I have great hope with this opening.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: grumba on October 29, 2015, 12:25:55 PM
Quote from: Alice on October 27, 2015, 11:26:24 AM
(If you answer this message, please, number the points. You can also send your suggestions in my PM).

1. Create a L2 Classic server with official files, just like you did years ago with Gracia FInal that brought you fame and fortune
2. Create a L2 Classic server with official files
3. Create a L2 Classic server with official files
4. Create a L2 Classic server with official files
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n. Create a L2 Classic server with official files
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on October 29, 2015, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: grumba on October 29, 2015, 12:25:55 PM
Quote from: Alice on October 27, 2015, 11:26:24 AM
(If you answer this message, please, number the points. You can also send your suggestions in my PM).

1. Create a L2 Classic server with official files, just like you did years ago with Gracia FInal that brought you fame and fortune
2. Create a L2 Classic server with official files
3. Create a L2 Classic server with official files
4. Create a L2 Classic server with official files
.
.
.
n. Create a L2 Classic server with official files
. This post its for new server hf5... If u want l2classic wait official server, in few weeks u'll have new server classic
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: grumba on October 30, 2015, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: Leuchten on October 29, 2015, 09:21:51 PM
This post its for new server hf5... If u want l2classic wait official server, in few weeks u'll have new server classic
Except that if RPG were to open a Classic server me (and probably a shit load of other people) would rather play here than there. It will most definitely have better rates and we know RPG's donation policy is probably the best among privates.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on October 31, 2015, 02:24:45 AM
Quote from: grumba on October 30, 2015, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: Leuchten on October 29, 2015, 09:21:51 PM
This post its for new server hf5... If u want l2classic wait official server, in few weeks u'll have new server classic
Except that if RPG were to open a Classic server me (and probably a shit load of other people) would rather play here than there. It will most definitely have better rates and we know RPG's donation policy is probably the best among privates.
I repeat that this issue is not going here. Here is discussing the new HF5 server and not on Classic. If you want to give a suggestion write to them or talk in another post. Please, I want you to respect this (my) post.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on October 31, 2015, 02:27:29 AM
Quote from: Leuchten on October 28, 2015, 02:59:14 AM
Quote from: Alice on October 27, 2015, 11:26:24 AM


5) Limiting Russian language in chats is not an option. Russians are still the majority of players. And most Russians don't speak English. Like at all :)


at least limit original names of stores and items, and nick names without Russian characters

When someone who does not know Russian, wants to find an item in Giran (for example), put the name of the item (vesper, elegy, shoes ...) but Russian characters is impossible.
Equally difficult to invitations Party, it is impossible to invite someone with Russian characters.

Okay that is not going to ban talking on public channels, but at least if you should use English in shops and trade ads.

To place an ad in this way:
WTS Vesper Shoes 800kk pm
You do not need a high level of English :P haha (and I repeat, that putting the Item, this appears with your name in English and not in Russian)
I think these small changes would improve the server.

I think what I'm asking is really necessary.


Regarding Twitch TV and videos Youtube, we will hope that this time has more participants. I will be one of them. I have great hope with this opening.

I quoted my previous message because they have diverted the subject. I hope that does not happen again. Please...
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: smn on October 31, 2015, 12:08:54 PM
Please keep the discussion on topic.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Alice on November 05, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
Dear Polish players!

We have new registrations coming from this site - lineage2.com.pl - so we tried to contact admins and place advertisment of the new server there.
Unfortunately they do not answer and the site seems abandoned.
But there are still new registrations :)
Therefore it would be great if someone created a topic about Victory server on their forums in Polish - http://forum.lineage2.com.pl/
Post link or screenshot here - we'll find a way to reward you for your effort :)
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on November 06, 2015, 01:52:00 AM
Quote from: Alice on November 05, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
Dear Polish players!

We have new registrations coming from this site - lineage2.com.pl - so we tried to contact admins and place advertisment of the new server there.
Unfortunately they do not answer and the site seems abandoned.
But there are still new registrations :)
Therefore it would be great if someone created a topic about Victory server on their forums in Polish - http://forum.lineage2.com.pl/
Post link or screenshot here - we'll find a way to reward you for your effort :)

this mesage is not related with my post at all, i dont understand :S :S
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Alice on November 06, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: Leuchten on November 06, 2015, 01:52:00 AM
this mesage is not related with my post at all, i dont understand :S :S

The topic is about means of bringing more people in general, and advertsing as part of it.
If you think my message is rly offtopic, I can sure create a separate thread :)
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Dairou on November 06, 2015, 12:32:05 PM
Quote from: Alice on November 05, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
Dear Polish players!

We have new registrations coming from this site - lineage2.com.pl - so we tried to contact admins and place advertisment of the new server there.
Unfortunately they do not answer and the site seems abandoned.
But there are still new registrations :)
Therefore it would be great if someone created a topic about Victory server on their forums in Polish - http://forum.lineage2.com.pl/
Post link or screenshot here - we'll find a way to reward you for your effort :)

http://forum.lineage2.com.pl/index.php/topic,57838.0.html
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on November 06, 2015, 01:20:18 PM
Quote from: Alice on November 06, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: Leuchten on November 06, 2015, 01:52:00 AM
this mesage is not related with my post at all, i dont understand :S :S

The topic is about means of bringing more people in general, and advertsing as part of it.
If you think my message is rly offtopic, I can sure create a separate thread :)

My idea is that most European players come to play and not only Polish and Russian players.
Besides giving some suggestion that more players, no matter their origin, want to play here instead of another server.

Perhaps your message is not the most appropriate in this post hahaha

greetings friend
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more European players
Post by: Poissie on November 06, 2015, 01:43:44 PM
I think every post about RPG Start on different sites is good if it means it can bring more people! (And that was ur main goal in this topic) And Alice's post doesn't mean that advertising is only for Russian or Polish people, just an effort to inform everywhere where it's possible.  :)
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more European players
Post by: OocaverexoO on November 06, 2015, 04:07:15 PM
At least 2 or 3 BR PT that i know is comming again, i hope i can see more old friends from everywhere ;D
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more European players
Post by: smn on November 06, 2015, 04:18:44 PM
The hype is real
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more European players
Post by: OocaverexoO on November 06, 2015, 07:21:19 PM
Seems so ^^
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more players
Post by: Cyberpunker on November 07, 2015, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: Leuchten on October 31, 2015, 02:27:29 AM
Quote from: Leuchten on October 28, 2015, 02:59:14 AM
Quote from: Alice on October 27, 2015, 11:26:24 AM


5) Limiting Russian language in chats is not an option. Russians are still the majority of players. And most Russians don't speak English. Like at all :)


at least limit original names of stores and items, and nick names without Russian characters

When someone who does not know Russian, wants to find an item in Giran (for example), put the name of the item (vesper, elegy, shoes ...) but Russian characters is impossible.
Equally difficult to invitations Party, it is impossible to invite someone with Russian characters.

Okay that is not going to ban talking on public channels, but at least if you should use English in shops and trade ads.

To place an ad in this way:
WTS Vesper Shoes 800kk pm
You do not need a high level of English :P haha (and I repeat, that putting the Item, this appears with your name in English and not in Russian)
I think these small changes would improve the server.

I think what I'm asking is really necessary.

Someone can tell me something about this suggestion?
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more European players
Post by: Bumbo on November 22, 2015, 02:12:34 AM
Quote from: Leuchten on October 17, 2015, 03:19:37 PM
First, sorry for my English. I'll try to write the best way that I can.

I took nine years playing Lineage 2. I played in official and private servers. Lately, I've seen that are servers that are succeeding, and that servers are failing. By this I will give my suggestion. This is what you need this server, at least that's what I think.

After so many years, the old players are few. Everything has evolved and the number of players that are now not content just to have a retail server.

The overall game and now all existing games has become more competitive than ever. We humans love to prove who is the best.

So you should focus more on making external events with small rewards in currencies server (eg RUR).
In addition you ought to be getting in the top in the list of best websites in search engines like "www.gtop100.com" or "www.l2top.co".
And something that  can help you to attract many players is to use TwitchTV.

Players do nothing without a profit. So that the benefit should be some kind of reward (eg RUR) with which they can get some benefits in the game. (Life Stone, hair accessory, vitality, rune for exp / sp among other things...)

My suggestions are:

- Add a way to vote for the server simply by clicking (as already exists in some private servers)
- Rewards for people to vote for the server
- Rewards for three best video pvp week.
- Rewards for best screenshot week
- Some GM make use of Twitch TV showing pvp server and highlights of the Castle Siege
The videos showcase the best that you can have a server. You must do much stress upon this.

If you have any other suggestions (not Unbalance or break the scheme that makes this unique server) please I would love to hear it. I think this post is necessary.

I have another suggestion, you Take I hope you well and without creating any controversy. I just try to be as honest and clear as possible.

When you enter the server find that is open to everyone without restriction of any country, but is almost entirely Russian-speaking. This is not a problem until you find Russian characters in stores in major public chats (global, shout, trade, hero).
This is one of the main reasons (I would say the biggest cause) that many players choose another server. Maybe restringuir use these characters in shops and public chats would be a good option (for Whisp, clan and party is not a problem).
I can understand that the server is Russian and all the work that doing is great, but if we talk about attracting people and that the server is full for a long time, this is necessary, now more than ever. The English is the international language and that it should be used. Again, please do not want to start an argument, I just want to think clearly and logically.
Lineage 2 Classic and works in Russia and in a short period of time will also be available in the rest of Europe. This is something to consider as many players leave the server.
Again, sorry for my english. A greeting and thank you very much.


+1 for vote reward
+1 for twitch reward
+1 for fraps reward
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more European players
Post by: llFaker on November 22, 2015, 12:32:13 PM
this is not l2j hue server, vote reward is ridiculous
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more European players
Post by: Cyberpunker on November 22, 2015, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: llFaker on November 22, 2015, 12:32:13 PM
this is not l2j hue server, vote reward is ridiculous

Even in the official server video contests and screenshots are made. Your comment is even more ridiculous. lol
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more European players
Post by: Cyberpunker on November 22, 2015, 12:54:05 PM
I can assume that my proposal on the language of the stores was rejected. It will once again be a strong headache for those who are not Russians at the time of trade.
Title: Re: Suggestion to bring more European players
Post by: TR0IKE on November 23, 2015, 03:26:40 PM
DDoS Stallone servers = more ppl Europe !  :)