I was just wondering about what is better into olympiad farming, Phoenix Knight 83+ with skils (phoenix summon, ai, etc) or HK 83+ with all the skills same Oed and similar gear?
PK 4 sure
DA imo
santa knight ;D
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Quote from: Evokiller on December 29, 2009, 07:12:59 PM
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loool. There will be nerver same gear same options on chars. I personaly think PK is way better if u know what to do and how to do. what weapons to chose what buffs (its primary)
Quote from: Шабака on December 29, 2009, 04:40:21 PM
ET
well yeah tk is best but u just need stun augument to rock sumoners even tho its not easy even tho i would pick PK
Quote from: pokemontrainer on December 30, 2009, 01:19:52 AM
Quote from: Шабака on December 29, 2009, 04:40:21 PM
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well yeah tk is best but u just need stun augument to rock sumoners even tho its not easy even tho i would pick PK
exactly. worth adding it kinda needs to be LS80/82.
as mine 76 didnt land at all.
Quote from: Gawain on December 30, 2009, 01:29:32 AM
Quote from: pokemontrainer on December 30, 2009, 01:19:52 AM
Quote from: Шабака on December 29, 2009, 04:40:21 PM
ET
well yeah tk is best but u just need stun augument to rock sumoners even tho its not easy even tho i would pick PK
exactly. worth adding it kinda needs to be LS80/82.
as mine 76 didnt land at all.
u should be able to land on pets as well
didnt work for me, was working on 70-75 people really nice. on higher kinda low rate, and on enchanted summons same.
da>pk in oly. your pets enchantable you have shield of revenge so youll never lose to daggers but paly might. you already have 1 nuke without a needed aug on a am. DA is pro'er in oly
It all depends on who is playing the chars
ST + stun aug + pain/spirit of shillien = HOLY CRAP GOD in oly
Quote from: maelstorm on January 03, 2010, 09:24:35 PM
ST + stun aug + pain/spirit of shillien = HOLY CRAP GOD in oly
Keep dreaming.
double tol > pain of shilien
when it comes to long fight its tripple tol for a tk
yeah its like cheating. but 2 cancels and perma stun > beats u early before u have time for teh tol
Quote from: zook on January 03, 2010, 10:38:17 PM
yeah its like cheating. but 2 cancels and perma stun > beats u early before u have time for teh tol
i actually got enough time to do at least 2 tols vs Gust4v or some other DA.
+when it comes to SK there is no double tod anymore.
Quote from: Spirit of ShilienReceives the will of Shilen to drastically increase the fighting ability of party members.
For 1 minute, increases P. Atk. by 30%, moving speed by 30, Atk. Spd. by 30%, the critical rate when a sword is equipped by 100, and the critical impact when a blunt weapon is equipped by 100%.
Recovers as HP 40% of general close rate physical damage inflicted on the enemy. Decreases the power of received HP recovery magic by 80%.
Panther Cancel.
SH is still better, just zeff buffs all day :-*
Quote from: Gawain on January 03, 2010, 10:43:09 PM
Quote from: zook on January 03, 2010, 10:38:17 PM
yeah its like cheating. but 2 cancels and perma stun > beats u early before u have time for teh tol
i actually got enough time to do at least 2 tols vs Gust4v or some other DA.
+when it comes to SK there is no double tod anymore.
Quote from: Spirit of ShilienReceives the will of Shilen to drastically increase the fighting ability of party members.
For 1 minute, increases P. Atk. by 30%, moving speed by 30, Atk. Spd. by 30%, the critical rate when a sword is equipped by 100, and the critical impact when a blunt weapon is equipped by 100%.
Recovers as HP 40% of general close rate physical damage inflicted on the enemy. Decreases the power of received HP recovery magic by 80%.
wtf, when did this got changed. O well, still if i were the sk you would die!
true gezas was a pro sk, donno why this nigga went paly :P
i heard gezas rerolling
fukin gay! he should unlearn his 83 paly skills n give them to me
Quote from: zook on January 04, 2010, 02:26:09 PM
true gezas was a pro sk, donno why this nigga went paly :P
I only played sk with 78 skills on aerith on my friend's neverdiealone acc and considering that that guy had only +4 on hex i did realy well, sadly i never hited 78 on celes to rape most noobs at oly but w/e. Atleast found extremely easy way to beat the crap out of tk:) And no i'm not rerolling, only bigest idiot would reroll from char with 83 skills lol.
Quote from: Gezas on January 04, 2010, 08:35:20 PM
Atleast found extremely easy way to beat the crap out of tk:)
Congratz then, what chronicle was that?
Seems you still havent found that way to "beat the crap out of tk" here yet.
Quote from: Gawain on January 04, 2010, 09:43:46 PM
Quote from: Gezas on January 04, 2010, 08:35:20 PM
Atleast found extremely easy way to beat the crap out of tk:)
Congratz then, what chronicle was that?
Seems you still havent found that way to "beat the crap out of tk" here yet.
Don't feel so proud that icy air saved your ass that single match lol, i can assure you that won't happen again. And i ment beat the crap out of tk when playing with sk, not paly
Quote from: Gezas on January 04, 2010, 09:47:35 PM
Don't feel so proud that icy air saved your ass that single match lol, i can assure you that won't happen again. And i ment beat the crap out of tk when playing with sk, not paly
I ain't, and there was more than one match actually.
That's like ET > PK when it comes to fight between them at oly.
3 tols > your party AI. Dunno about your 'homobird', doesnt seem like it's much stronger than panther.
What skills does the bird have?
Cleanse and some wedabest damage skills
Not bad i guess, is there any chances for Tanks vs Soulhounds? I mean soulhounds that are 83+ and in good gear.
Quote from: tz on January 04, 2010, 10:57:54 PM
Not bad i guess, is there any chances for Tanks vs Soulhounds? I mean soulhounds that are 83+ and in good gear.
that realy depends on how many m crit soulhound will make and what kind of atributes both use on armors and weapons and ofc if tank has rune book and decently oed jewels
Quote from: Gezas on January 04, 2010, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: tz on January 04, 2010, 10:57:54 PM
Not bad i guess, is there any chances for Tanks vs Soulhounds? I mean soulhounds that are 83+ and in good gear.
that realy depends on how many m crit soulhound will make and what kind of atributes both use on armors and weapons and ofc if tank has rune book and decently oed jewels
What Rune book? The resists or?
Quote from: Gawain on January 04, 2010, 10:26:47 PM
Quote from: Gezas on January 04, 2010, 09:47:35 PM
Don't feel so proud that icy air saved your ass that single match lol, i can assure you that won't happen again. And i ment beat the crap out of tk when playing with sk, not paly
I ain't, and there was more than one match actually.
That's like ET > PK when it comes to fight between them at oly.
3 tols > your party AI. Dunno about your 'homobird', doesnt seem like it's much stronger than panther.
if you won't be able to kill me those 3 tols will be worth nothing
Quote from: tz on January 04, 2010, 11:51:38 PM
Quote from: Gezas on January 04, 2010, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: tz on January 04, 2010, 10:57:54 PM
Not bad i guess, is there any chances for Tanks vs Soulhounds? I mean soulhounds that are 83+ and in good gear.
that realy depends on how many m crit soulhound will make and what kind of atributes both use on armors and weapons and ofc if tank has rune book and decently oed jewels
What Rune book? The resists or?
gives some % to your m def, i think like 10-15% and when you get damage has chance for 8secs to increase your m def by 1k and all atribute resists by 5 or 10
toggle skills are sweet in oly, but in open pvp doesnt it suck if like archers will that rune thing sub haste celestial like al that shit triggers then u have like maaad over buffage
fo sho, wtb 34 buff slots
Quote from: zook on January 04, 2010, 11:55:00 PM
toggle skills are sweet in oly, but in open pvp doesnt it suck if like archers will that rune thing sub haste celestial like al that shit triggers then u have like maaad over buffage
baff smart :d
Quote from: Gezas on January 04, 2010, 11:52:04 PM
if you won't be able to kill me those 3 tols will be worth nothing
And yeah, it's true mostly due to gear/enchant difference. I know you can come up with 'i have +3 ic set and +3fb' but you know it's not about it. I'm talking about having boss jewellery and overenchanted skills.
Still, i enjoy tank fights even if i lose. Fun to see how
some people just do the same 'tactic' against everyone and even if it's not working they keep repeating same shit over and over.
my best oed skill is still +11 shield stun so you failed a lot here and my fb isn't even +3 and up till yesterday the only difference between our epics were that i had a bit more atk speed from baium, unlesss you ofc didn't take oly jewels.
Quote from: Gezas on January 05, 2010, 12:34:13 AM
my best oed skill is still +11 shield stun so you failed a lot here and my fb isn't even +3 and up till yesterday the only difference between our epics were that i had a bit more atk speed from baium, unlesss you ofc didn't take oly jewels.
Dude are you fucking dumb or what? That +3ic +3fb was a damn example in a quote symbol.
I dont give a damn what jewells do you have, and about your skill enchancements.
But come on, don't tell us you're going olympiad with olympiad zaken+tezza and
baium. Since i'm using oly zaken+oly tezza only. Not to mention you've
probably got stuff like alignment/elemental protection
as i've been told.
(i put that in bold so you may pay more attention to that particular parts of sentence)
And well, yours +11 is more than highest enchant on my skills.
But this ain't topic about it, is it?
You said your opinion, i said what i think about tanks at oly. Guess that's pretty much enough.
Quote from: Gawain on January 05, 2010, 01:04:40 AM
Quote from: Gezas on January 05, 2010, 12:34:13 AM
my best oed skill is still +11 shield stun so you failed a lot here and my fb isn't even +3 and up till yesterday the only difference between our epics were that i had a bit more atk speed from baium, unlesss you ofc didn't take oly jewels.
Dude are you fucking dumb or what? That +3ic +3fb was a damn example in a quote symbol.
I dont give a damn what jewells do you have, and about your skill enchancements.
But come on, don't tell us you're going olympiad with olympiad zaken+tezza and baium. Since i'm using oly zaken+oly tezza only. Not to mention you've probably got stuff like alignment/elemental protection as i've been told.
(i put that in bold so you may pay more attention to that particular parts of sentence)
And well, yours +11 is more than highest enchant on my skills.
But this ain't topic about it, is it?
You said your opinion, i said what i think about tanks at oly. Guess that's pretty much enough.
yes i go to oly with oly zaken, since the month i got hero and if you don't give a damn about gear/skill oe difference why do you cry about that then? and do you even know what alightnement and elemental gives? alig give permanently 10 to dark and holy resist and the same triger as rune and elemental gives 10 to 4 other atributes and same triger, wow such a fuking huge advantage in a tank fight when we actualy don't use magic dmg skills
don`t make gawain aggressive or i`ll borrow him my qa 0_O
Gezas - fighter`s will yo? Don`t tell me it doesn`t give advantage and i guess you have it right?
Quote from: valandril on January 05, 2010, 01:17:46 AM
don`t make gawain aggressive or i`ll borrow him my qa 0_O
Gezas - fighter`s will yo? Don`t tell me it doesn`t give advantage and i guess you have it right?
nop sry, don't have that and feel free to lend gawain aq for oly, i'll be happy for him
Quote from: Gezas on January 05, 2010, 01:16:59 AM
yes i go to oly with oly zaken, since the month i got hero and if you don't give a damn about gear/skill oe difference why do you cry about that then? and do you even know what alightnement and elemental gives? alig give permanently 10 to dark and holy resist and the same triger as rune and elemental gives 10 to 4 other atributes and same triger, wow such a fuking huge advantage in a tank fight when we actualy don't use magic dmg skills
First and most important thing is i am not crying about advantages you might have. These are examples of what you might have that gives you advantage above the others.
Second thing is that you just dont know your own skills you have learned it seems.
Quote from: Protection of AlignmentResistance to tendency attributes is increased by 20, and when damage is incurred, M. Def. and resistance to elemental attributes are additionally increased instantly depending on the probability.
Quote from: Protection of ElementalResistance to elemental attributes is increased by 20, and when damage is incurred, M. Def. and resistance to elemental attributes are additionally increased instantly depending on the probability.
So that is
+20 static resist to any element. When triggers that's +mdef and +extra resists. That gives you at least some advantage.
Let's finish this damn argument now as it leads nowhere. Get on topic again.
10 or 20 big difference lol and i don't have elemental so i don't know how much exactly it gives. And if you say lts end and go back on topic. Tanks>all! if you don't agree eat sh1t and die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbhbLrSQKyY&feature=related
gratz we da best.
be care guys be care
Quote from: Gezas on January 05, 2010, 01:41:13 AM
10 or 20 big difference lol and i don't have elemental so i don't know how much exactly it gives. And if you say lts end and go back on topic. Tanks>all! if you don't agree eat sh1t and die
according to that nigga dlm a good EE,destro,zerker,sh can molest a tank and elemental summoner
Quote from: zook on January 05, 2010, 12:23:23 PM
Quote from: Gezas on January 05, 2010, 01:41:13 AM
10 or 20 big difference lol and i don't have elemental so i don't know how much exactly it gives. And if you say lts end and go back on topic. Tanks>all! if you don't agree eat sh1t and die
according to that nigga dlm a good EE,destro,zerker,sh can molest a tank and elemental summoner
dlm first should actualy learn to play first then talk things like that. Yes i saw his "awesome" vids and they made me lol
ok, well sorreh bout the cryfest sir criesalot. im justtrying to tell u that those classes all beat tanks. im saying when there geared. not when its you in vesper killing them in common A
stop cry elf gipsy bitch!
dlm aint that good, just a bow whore with gear
me >> all tanks still DA is a bit of problem
WTB BEWS for paladins,tk destructor
Quote from: Gawain on January 03, 2010, 10:43:09 PM
Quote from: zook on January 03, 2010, 10:38:17 PM
yeah its like cheating. but 2 cancels and perma stun > beats u early before u have time for teh tol
i actually got enough time to do at least 2 tols vs Gust4v or some other DA.
+when it comes to SK there is no double tod anymore.
Quote from: Spirit of ShilienReceives the will of Shilen to drastically increase the fighting ability of party members.
For 1 minute, increases P. Atk. by 30%, moving speed by 30, Atk. Spd. by 30%, the critical rate when a sword is equipped by 100, and the critical impact when a blunt weapon is equipped by 100%.
Recovers as HP 40% of general close rate physical damage inflicted on the enemy. Decreases the power of received HP recovery magic by 80%.
because i let u tol ;D ;D i dont know if ppl noticed it but i am rly not using much stuns against tank vs tank fights
ps: me da best ! pwn everyone in Tallum +3 set no attribute no p.def bonus.. HAHAHA !
you've ruined my dreams Gusto. ;<
next time do it quickly.